hey i was wondering what people thought about my idea. its just a random thought but do you think that mabey Danielle will try to take claires baby scence hers got killed ?

I think it's probably one of two things. Either what you said, which is that Danielle mistakes Claire's baby for her own, or that Claire should be concerned because "The Others" took Danielle's baby, and now they're after hers.

It would be an interesting twist if Danielle joined the "good guys" in protecting Claire's baby so as to prevent the Others from taking it.

hey i was wondering what people thought about my idea. its just a random thought but do you think that mabey Danielle will try to take claires baby scence hers got killed ?


I think Alex got taken from Danielle, the same way that Ethan tried to take Claire for her baby.

I think when we find out what happened to Alex, that will answer the question of why Ethan and "the others" want Claire's baby, and what they intend to do with it.

Danielle said that Alex was her "child" not her baby. I think Alex is something else, don't know what yet, but I don't think it was a baby.

Danielle said that Alex was her "child" not her baby.* I think Alex is something else, don't know what yet, but I don't think it was a baby.


I have to think this way too. It just seems strange to me the way that she said "my child", I know there have been lots of wild ideas about what that means.

I don't know if Danielle will try to take the baby, but she knows a lot more about "the others" than the survivors do. If she does take the baby I think she will do it because she thinks its in the baby's best interest to be as far away from the others and only she knows how to protect the baby.

I think Alex got taken from Danielle, the same way that Ethan tried to take Claire for her baby.

I think when we find out what happened to Alex, that will answer the question of why Ethan and "the others" want Claire's baby, and what they intend to do with it.




I think you are right.* But it also could be that she had Ethan try to take Claire's baby for her.* Maybe Danielle and Ethan worked together.

Maybe Danielle and Ethan worked together.


I really doubt that. I don't think she was lying when she told Sayid that she hadn't seen any of "the others" on the island, that she'd just heard them whispering.

I'm quite sure that it's her total lack of human interaction for the past 16 years or so that makes her as crazy as she is, she's been alone way too long.

I]m quite sure that it's her total lack of human interaction for the past 16 years or so that makes her as crazy as she is, she's been alone way too long

Plus the fact that if you heard those whispers all the time too that might make ya nuts!

I'm hoping she does something to help...not hurt in this situation. I mean with Hurely she then gave him the battery and said to tell Sayid "hey". Maybe the little interaction she's had will help.

I'm thinking she's going to be more of an ally than an enemy. But it may take our little band of survivors a while to win her trust.

I read an artice in T.V. guide at it said that claire should be worried about Danielle. It didn't say much of anything else about it but I have a feeling she'll be more of an enemy.

...but then again T.V. Guide could be wrong...

I read an artice in T.V. guide at it said that claire should be worried about Danielle. It didn't say much of anything else about it but I have a feeling she'll be more of an enemy.

...but then again T.V. Guide could be wrong...


What it really said was that Claire should be worried about Danielle's story.

I still think the answer to why "the others" want Claire's baby and for what will be answered when we findout what happened to Alex.

As other postings have suggested previously, may be to "others" took Alex right after Danielle gave birth, before she even found out if it was a girl or a boy.

It just makes me so excited with anticipation!

I'm really interested to hear about what happened with Danielle's child. I'm also really hoping that she's more of an ally to the lostaways than an enemy. I think there's been obvious progress because of the interaction with Hurley. I think she'd be a good person to have on "their side", as Locke would say.

Hopefully she can help keep Claire's baby safe. I'd be so upset if anything happened to him/her!

*~Steph~*

after seeing the tv guide preview, i think claire will try to kill her baby.

Does Danielle even know Claire exists? We as the audience know all the things that have been going on with everyone, but you have to remember.... the other characters probably don't... if that makes sense. Like not telling different people about the black rock, polar bears, radio tower, etc.....

As far as we know Danielle only knows about Sayid and Hurley, and Charlie because she did take a pot shot at him. Although Sayid did tell her there were other people from the plane crash, so she knows in the abstract that there are more people wandering around on the island.

But as far as we know she doesn't know about Claire specifically.

Unless she's been lurking in the bushes spying on the group. Which is possible, but I'm guessing she has things to do that are of more pressing necessity for her survival.

Claire's baby boy will not survive. He may last an episode or two, but he will not survive. And Locke will be responsible. You heard it here first. Or maybe you didn't. :)

Where is this informations from?

Oh, it's just speculation on my part.

Or is it?

// cue eerie X-files music

;)

They couldn't have taken her baby that fast, she said she had never seen the "Others" and theres no way she would've fallen asleep immediately after giving birth and Ethan snuck in without her knowing and took her baby. That seems impossible to me.

They couldn't have taken her baby that fast, she said she had never seen the "Others" and theres no way she would've fallen asleep immediately after giving birth and Ethan snuck in without her knowing and took her baby. That seems impossible to me.


I assume that you are talking about Danielle here.

She could have been taken the way Claire was, and like Claire have amnesia about the events surrounding her abduction. In Danielle's case that amnesia may extend to the birth of her baby. She may have "come to" wandering in the jungle no longer pregnant.

Or members of Danielle's party could have handed the baby over to "the others" when it was demanded of them, much like Ethan demanded Charlie hand over Claire. That could have been a contributing factor as to why Danielle thought/knew they were all ill and why she killed them.

claire's baby has to live. the baby is important to the plot some how. are they really going to have a whole episode about baby's "back story" and then kill it? I think not. as far as danielle, I think claire needs to be watching out for the others, they'll be back to take the baby. I bet they know a "special" baby is coming to the island, they thought it was Danielle's but it wasn't.

How can they have the baby's backstory? Like when it was in the womb? Or do you mean CLAIRE'S backstory about how she got pregnant with the baby?

i think they meant clairs story is all about the baby and her backstories so far have been about that... its pointless to kill off a baby, and a lot of people would flip out over a baby being killed so its a bad move on the writers part

Just wanted to make sure because it would be silly to have a backstory where the baby is in the womb coming out!

thatd be pretty cool though

Yeah it would be like that movie...what was it called? The one with John Travolta and Kirstie Alley...and the baby is the main talking character....

LOOK WHOS TALKING... u notice that im talking to you on 3 different threds... lol

Yeah thats it!!


I did notice that! I think its pretty cool! I am just trying to catch up--not been able to be here a while!

haha... well... ummm? hows the husband lmao. any who- i thought clairs baby looked like an alien at first...

I did n't think it looked right, that's for sure!

maybe ethan did something?? ? :-\

As an education major, I've watched FAR too many birthing videos in my classes, and this is what i've learned.

Babies don't look very cute when they are first born. They are usually red, and squirming, and screaming. Also, a baby's head is shaped oddly after birth from being squeezed through the birth canal. The head almost becomes deformed since the bones in the skull aren't fused together yet (a baby's soft spot). That's probably why it looked weird.

I'm sure most of you already knew this, but hey. I figured I'd contribute something I knew from my major into Lost! haha

*~Steph~*

Oh--have you ever watched the baby story on TLC? They show it all! And yes I have seen lots of birthing videos as well...what I was commenting on was how dark the eyes looked to me.

Oh--have you ever watched the baby story on TLC? They show it all! And yes I have seen lots of birthing videos as well...what I was commenting on was how dark the eyes looked to me.


They were almost transparent when he closed his eyes.

I wouldn't put it past the writers to have made the baby's eyes so noticeable!

The eyes... Remember Claire's dream about Locke's eyes, one light, one dark? The baby's eyes looked pitch black when she was holding him. Maybe it was a coincidince??? ??? ???

Hmm I'd say that Claire should only worry about Danielle IF Danielle's baby was a actual human baby. We don't know that yet. I find "child" to be a interesting word choice...


No matter what, IMHO, it wouldn't make sense for Claire and her baby to die. Otherwise the psychic's prophecy wouldn't be valid anymore. And I think that we're pretty sure that he is pretty good at his job!

or that Claire should be concerned because "The Others" took Danielle's baby, and now they're after hers.

You do not know that "the others" took Danielles baby. We do not even know who "the others" are or how long they have been on the island. It is very possible that they have only been there for weeks...

Danielle said that Alex was her "child" not her baby. I think Alex is something else, don't know what yet, but I don't think it was a baby.

I have thought this all along too...I do not think that it is a baby, but if it is, maybe it is what is in the hatch...But, hmmm...

I'm thinking she's going to be more of an ally than an enemy. But it may take our little band of survivors a while to win her trust.

Yeah, I agree with this too! Why would she help them already if she were just going to turn on them?

I still think the answer to why "the others" want Claire's baby and for what will be answered when we findout what happened to Alex.

I am not sure we will figure out why "the others" want Claires baby when the revealing of what happened to Alex because we are not even sure what Alex is yet. I think when we find out who/what "the others" are we will figure out why they wanted Claire.

As far as we know Danielle only knows about Sayid and Hurley, and Charlie because she did take a pot shot at him. Although Sayid did tell her there were other people from the plane crash, so she knows in the abstract that there are more people wandering around on the island.

Right, she knows there are more survivors, but I think that "the others" have been here a bit longer than the survivors. But, I do not think that they have been here too much longer because I think that Danielle would have found them already if they would have been there for too long. I mean, she has been there 16 years, she knows the island very well, and is island savvy. Unless, they are hiding underground and have been there since before she got there...but, I do not think my latter specuation is true.

it wouldn't make sense for Claire and her baby to die. Otherwise the psychic's prophecy wouldn't be valid anymore. And I think that we're pretty sure that he is pretty good at his job!

Yeah, I very much doubt that Claire and baby are going anywhere any time soon...

theres a rumor that claire and danielle's stories are going to be important, and are connected.

i think alex is really ethan...

i think alex is really ethan...


That seems too easy though.

I have to comment on your avie mandy! Too cute!

Okay back to strange looking babies and ethan/alex discussions!

And.....GO!

I don't think it's even remotely possible that Ethan is Alex.

well why not... i mean, how long ago did danielle get to the island,? she said alex was her child... not her baby - and a child could be 12, 13... right? so he could be in his late twenties- which he looks.

and how else did ethan get on that island... i mean - im not saying he IS alex, im theorizing... it would make for a great soap opera revelance though haha

Ethan looks like he's closer to 40 than 20, which is not surprising because the actor is 40.

I'm fairly sure that if Ethan were Alex, he wouldn't have been Introduced and then killed off so early in the show by the writers, it would have come into play later with some sort of a reunion between mother and child, even if it was only Danielle being present when he died. Far too much wasted storyline potential to kill him early and then reveal later that he is Alex. Not to mention that he's a rotting corpse now, so there is no way for Danielle to identify him as her child.

I also firmly believe that the solution to the mystery of what happened to Alex, is tied in with the reason for Ethan and "the others" wanting Claire's baby. I think that there is one solution to both of those mysteries. I think that if Alex is still alive (and assuming that Alex is a human child) he or she would be 15 to 17 years old, and perhaps getting too old to be of value to "the others", which is why they need a replacement in the form of Claire's baby.

There are lots of ways other people have ended up on the island. Besides Danielle's boat and the crash of Oceanic 815, we have the drug plane (possibly with the Nigerian priest aboard), Ethan could have been the pilot of that. There are also the "Adam and Eve" that Jack and Kate found in the cave, who appear to predate all of those events, Ethan could be their grandchild. I also think that it's very possilble that there are other planes and boats that have ended up crashing on the island, it seems to be a magnet for disaster. Getting on to the island doesn't seem to be a problem, it's getting off alive that is the trick.

wow, good speculation.
i dont know what else to say
I WANNA KNOW WHO ETHAN IS THOUGH... AHHH >:( :lol2:

Yep--that was good! I don't think Ethan is Alex either. I am thinking more along the lines of a scientific experimant...her child is her project! But I could be totally off!

Now I know everyone is either going to hate me or think that I am totally nuts... but maybe ethan wasn't evil? Maybe he was trying to protect the baby and Claire. Danielle did say to Sayid to watch the other castaways closley. Maybe someone isn't who they are claiming to be. Now, everyone is going to hate me. yay. :-X

Now I know everyone is either going to hate me or think that I am totally nuts... but maybe ethan wasn't evil? Maybe he was trying to protect the baby and Claire. Danielle did say to Sayid to watch the other castaways closley. Maybe someone isn't who they are claiming to be. Now, everyone is going to hate me. yay. :-X


Yeah, Ethan wasn't who he was claiming to be. He was trying to pass himself off as a survivor of the plane crash.

Trying to protect Claire and the baby from what? The only danger that she appeared to be in at any point was from him. Not to mention hanging Charlie in a tree and picking him up by the scruff of the neck and threatening him. Hardly the actions of someone who was trying to be "the good guy".

Ethan may not originally have been evil, but I'm quite sure that by the time we saw him he's been infected by the "sickness" and was going to do anything he had to to get that baby no matter who he hurt, maimed or killed in the process.

(Oh god, now everyone is going to REALLY hate me!)* Maybe he was protecting them from the sickness.* Danielle told Sayid to watch everyone around him closley, maybe someone got the virus.* *Charlie* and he was just doing what Danielle did.* PLEASE DON'T HURT ME CHARLIE FANS!!!

I don't think anyone is going to hate you.

I just don't think that there is anything at all that we've seen that could possibly support the theory that Ethan did what he did for the good of Claire and her baby. It just isn't logical. In my opinion it just doesn't make any sense with the rest of the things we know.

Too man questions, not enough answers!

I think that Danielle's baby was taken away from her by Ethan and the "others", for whatever reason (although my guess is for some kind of scientific reasons, maybe something to do with the sickness...). Since Danielle and Claire's stories will obviously somehow be connected, I'm sure Danielle will come to the camp to warn Claire that her baby is in danger of being taken away. Or she may also tell her that her baby is a carrier of the sickness (remember Claire's dram of being injected with something? since her dreams are seemingly coming true, maybe this DID happen and maybe the baby now has this sickness). Whatever the case, I'm sure Danielle and Claire will be on the same side, although I guess Danielle could possible want to take Claire's baby since she no longer has hers. Or maybe Danielle had to kill her baby because it had the sickness (she had to kill the other people on her team) and now Claire will have to kill hers, too.

I think that Danielle's baby was taken away from her by Ethan and the "others", for whatever reason (although my guess is for some kind of scientific reasons, maybe something to do with the sickness...). Since Danielle and Claire's stories will obviously somehow be connected, I'm sure Danielle will come to the camp to warn Claire that her baby is in danger of being taken away. Or she may also tell her that her baby is a carrier of the sickness (remember Claire's dram of being injected with something? since her dreams are seemingly coming true, maybe this DID happen and maybe the baby now has this sickness). Whatever the case, I'm sure Danielle and Claire will be on the same side, although I guess Danielle could possible want to take Claire's baby since she no longer has hers. Or maybe Danielle had to kill her baby because it had the sickness (she had to kill the other people on her team) and now Claire will have to kill hers, too.


But if she killed Alex, then why was she torturing Sayid to find out where Alex was?

But if she killed Alex, then why was she torturing Sayid to find out where Alex was?


I was aware of that when I wrote what I did, but I was just assuming. I mean, maybe she's not all there upstairs.

wooh so, big deal w/ the OTHERS... what was that all abt

There's more to that story.....she couldn't have made the smoke or she would have taken turniphead somewhere else.