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Liplocked
10-06-2008, 08:36 AM
I know to expect a chorus of “there is no ARG beyond the testing!” when I say this, but - I really think Les Henokiens site is worth exploring.

I’ve been checking out the Post and Zip codes in the addresses used (particularly in association to Van Eeghen International) with some very interesting results… but let me show you something else I fell over – an almost inevitable consequence of by stumbling around blindly :rolleyes: I can’t even claim method to my madness.

I think you might enjoy it:
Let it go Jack?


Find a stone in nature and ask permission with your mind to use it. Then take the stone and sit with it alone (preferably in nature) and talk your feelings and emotions/tears/cry/shout/yell, whatever it takes into this stone. You may only spend a few minutes doing this; then put the stone away in a special place or you may even carry it with you. When you are ready to say more words of healing to the stone; repeat as often as necessary. This process may take hours, days, weeks, or months (depending on the ‘size of the stone’). But when you feel ready to release, visit a stream/lake/ocean. It can be at any time of the day, but dawn or dusk symbolically are the best.


· Sit by the waters edge and relax. More words may need to be said and more tears shed; when you are ready: Let Go, Forgive, and Release—drop (or toss) the stone into the stream/lake/ocean…as you let go of the stone—you are letting go of the stone within your Chalice of Light. If you are unable to open your fingers and release the stone, it just means that you have more work to do on this wounding. Keep this stone and take it back home again. Repeat talking to your stone. When you feel you are ready again, re-visit the stream/lake/ocean and release.


· When you have forgiven and let go of this past wounding, sit by the water’s edge and feel the lightness within you. Bless, give thanks, and leave an offering before you depart. Bless, thank, and love yourself for having the courage, wisdom, and love to forgive and let go.

(http://www.divinehumanity.com/custom/November%202001.html)


The author can be found here: http://www.divinehumanity.com/custom/hakusan.html

And this is where I found the link to the site above: http://www.alexa.com/search?q=henokiens.com

'JC' has himself a fabulous site there - chock full of enough LOST themes and imagery to keep even the most hardened of theorists amused for at least 10 minutes. Longer if you're lucky.

(I'm crossing my fingers for more points earning opportunities from Hans tomorrow, but just in case - I'm back to my digging in his back yard)

mikiejoe
10-06-2008, 12:59 PM
I think it's a good idea to continue hope of finding clues for this arg. There is no way we are going to be made to wait till december 15th. That would be too poor of marketing for a game based on a wildly popular show. Right at Christmas holidays-no way. I think the official-ness of the dharma recruit may be on hold but the game will go on with something like a rebel wing of deserters contacting the black swans. I think we need to start watching for things like that. I also wondered if they will use the "fringe" show to deliver clues since it is JJ Abrams thing and some of the concepts over-lap. Just a thought. Anyways, keep the faith dharmites. Something will come up.

Liplocked
10-07-2008, 06:49 AM
I’ll settle for incidents of interconnectivity and points of interest at this point mikijoe

I’m unlikely to find any clues so some solution or other because I haven’t even one clue what the question might be. That for me is the principle problem.

So I’ll just play and see what happens.

J.D. Neuhaus Ltd http://www.jdneuhaus.co.uk/jdn-worldwide/index.htm
- listed as a German company on the Henokians’ site: producers of lifting equipment to mines, tunnelling and the building industry, auto manufacturing, airplane construction and shipbuilding (among others – I just picked the most LOST sounding); have this listed as their British address:

8, Herald Business Park
Golden Acres Lane
Coventry, CV3 2SY U.K.

I ran a search on their Post Code and it is indeed attached to 8 Herald Business Park:


W F Electrical plc,Unit 1-2,Herald Business Park,Golden Acres Lane,Coventry, CV3 2SY
Spa Plastics Ltd,Unit 3-4,Herald Business Park,Golden Acres Lane,Coventry, CV3 2SY
Istead Business Presentations,Unit 5,Herald Business Park,Golden Acres Lane,Coventry, CV3 2SY
Sign A Rama UK Headquarters,Unit 7,Herald Business Park,Golden Acres Lane,Coventry, CV3 2SY
Myton Hamlet Hospice Warehouse,Unit 9,Herald Business Park,Golden Acres Lane,Coventry, CV3 2SY
Presentation Products Direct,Unit 10,Herald Business Park,Golden Acres Lane,Coventry, CV3 2SY
Unit 12,Herald Business Park,Golden Acres Lane,Coventry, CV3 2SY
Independent Graphic Machinery,Unit 13,Herald Business Park,Golden Acres Lane,Coventry, CV3 2SY
Rich & Patterson Ltd,Unit 15,Herald Business Park,Golden Acres Lane,Coventry, CV3 2SY


Except there isn’t a business in unit 8 ~ They sure as hell look legit though. lol

One of the virtues they extol for their ‘powered by air’ products, is their ability to work safely in environments where electrical sparks might cause explosions. :biggrin:

Had to mention that just because it’s cool.

This doesn’t appear to be a Post Code at all:

Van Eeghen International UK Ltd.
P.O. Box 50392
London W4 1ZL
United Kingdom

I ran it but it isn’t recognised. The PO Box though… I am still thinking about.

You have to have a valid British address to rent one.

ETA: Ok, I refined my search criteria to check for Unit 8 specifically … now I’m being (one can only hope reliably) informed; that there is no Unit 8! :rotflmao2: Those maps are neatly cross-referenced though. I asked one to find me the business 'Van Eeghen' in the district the map took me too - and it did.

BooShank
10-07-2008, 10:47 AM
What are you all talking about...:confused:

Byrd
10-07-2008, 12:04 PM
huh? I dont get it

gingergrant
10-07-2008, 04:15 PM
I know to expect a chorus of “there is no ARG beyond the testing!” when I say this, but - I really think Les Henokiens site is worth exploring.

)

We found the Hoenokiens site a while ago and most people came to the conclusion that it wasnt' related. But it's fun to see how life mirrors Lost!

Liplocked
10-08-2008, 04:49 AM
I'm been there for months but haven't had the time so spend on a thorough exploration because of my commitments to the DI recruitment process, but now that's ended... I think - there's a New Recruit button on the Dharma Wants You site that if selected takes you to a registration page. I dunno if it works.

The link from the Van Eeghen company to Les Henokiens is qualified with the term 'special' but what has me most intrigued is what happens if you click the Van Eeghen link in the Time Machine.

Beyond Jacob continuing Christian's work, I'm drawn to the antioxidents produced by the company: anti-aging, food preserving and believed perhaps cancer preventing. Just what you'd put in DI mayo :biggrin: - or Apollo bars depending on how suspicious you are of them. Then there are those intriguing industrial applications too.

I ran the ESA Post Code as well by the way - the address is real enough. But there's scope for confusion over the ESA being there.

I'm going to play with this a while now my DI tests are done:

The main business activity of La Intrata Overseas b.v., subsidiary of Van Eeghen, is the extraction of precious metals from waste materials from foreign sources, destined for recycling and refinement. Originally, this activity was carried out in Eastern Africa.

Communications, which have held a high place in Group priorities since the 17th century, in the age of merchant shipping, are another area of activity for Intrata Overseas b.v. at the dawning of the 21st century and satellite links.

Oh, and this is worth a few seconds as an interesting coincidence 'qua patet orbis' is the motto of the Nederlands Korps Mariniers.

Go tell that to the marines. ;)

kansasgal71
10-08-2008, 10:18 AM
Thanks for delving further into this website. I know it was deemed "Legit", but I agree that it has so many connections with Lost to be just a coincidence. Possibly TPTB have used this company as a inspiration for some of the backstory of Lost. Or it is a very nice fake. Either way, I am interested to see what you discover.

Starrox
10-08-2008, 10:50 AM
Not sure what kind of clues for Lost and/or the ARG you're looking for, but I doubt you'll find them on that website! The Association les Hénokiens is a legit organisation, and J. D. Neuhaus is a company from Witten, Germany founded in 1745. :confused:

BTW - the domain was registered in 97, and if you go here (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.henokiens.com), you can see what the page looked like before Lost even premiered...

ETA: And no, it can't be fake! Not unless they somehow managed to convince the Handelsblatt (a German economy newspaper) to put up several fake articles about J. D. Neuhaus and mention a meeting of the Association les Hénokiens in Witten in September 2005 in some of them. ;)

kansasgal71
10-08-2008, 11:28 AM
Could it be related to Lost because TPTB utilized this company and those associated with it to provide a "real" background?

tremorstone
10-08-2008, 04:23 PM
Could it be related to Lost because TPTB utilized this company and those associated with it to provide a "real" background?

excuse my ignorance if this fact has been brought up (and I missed it as plainly as the sky turns purple every now and again...),..

was not the Economist from Germany?..

Liplocked
10-10-2008, 06:02 AM
Not sure what kind of clues for Lost and/or the ARG you're looking for, but I doubt you'll find them on that website! The Association les Hénokiens is a legit organisation, and J. D. Neuhaus is a company from Witten, Germany founded in 1745. :confused:

BTW - the domain was registered in 97, and if you go here (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.henokiens.com), you can see what the page looked like before Lost even premiered...

ETA: And no, it can't be fake! Not unless they somehow managed to convince the Handelsblatt (a German economy newspaper) to put up several fake articles about J. D. Neuhaus and mention a meeting of the Association les Hénokiens in Witten in September 2005 in some of them. ;)

Not looking for clues as such – but having fun discovering what might previously seemed exaggerated LOST themes in a real world setting. Have you felt the political climate lately?

I woke up yesterday to find I was living between two counties that had lost £millions to collapsed Icelandic banks and my government threatening to go to law for the return of the money. Some of our police forces have lost their budgets too. Entire countries infrastructure at the mercy of the whims of rouge traders… madness!

But all too real.

Finding there are real companies out there that wouldn’t look out of place between the pages of a Dynasty or Dallas script – interests passed down for generations, diversification into areas one might not expect - has served to make LOST’s missing brothers, businessman fathers, children used as assets and game pieces, and alliances with rivals and competitors forced by necessity and mutual interest, into the perfect bridge between mysterious Island goings on and the shift to off-Island action that’s expected.

There’s no need for the suspension of disbelief when experience teaches you what a weirdly challenging place reality can be. :smile:

I found one of those wayback pages too; for the magazine Family Business.

They list Van Eeghen Group at #44 in their 100 long list of The World’s Oldest Family Companies and a link to Van Eeghens website.

Lanificio Conte S. p. A. at #94 contains a link to Les Henokians, but J.D. Neuhaus at #88 doesn’t and William Clark & Sons have been removed for no longer meeting their criteria. They do however remain on Les Henokians site under Northern Ireland.

But the best find for me was entry #1 Houshi Onson ( Hoshi on Les Henokians) : it reiterated what it was I found so interesting in the museum section of Les Henokians.

According to legend, the god of Mount Hakusan visited a Buddhist priest and told him to uncover an underground hot spring in a nearby village. He found the hot spring and asked his disciple, a woodcutter’s son named Gengoro Sasakiri, to build and operate a spa on the site.

Eko built his church of wood with an axe and the establishment above is served by a life-giving spring waters and guarded by none other that Smokey himself! His picture appears at the bottom of this page: http://www.ho-shi.co.jp/jiten/Houshi_E/home.htm

http://www.ho-shi.co.jp/jiten/Houshi_E/history.htm ~ revealed religion, action directed by spirits and a people following another man’s dream. Totally LOST.

I’m done with the insanity for now though – I have an 18th birthday party to prepare. Namaste – and rest assured I’m not about to bring LOST or The Fuselage into disrepute by staking out Les Henokians AGM in a lawn chair on the pavement outside their hotel, nor spamming Van Eeghens PO box with grey origami swans folded out of paper containing my return address….

Although, obviously, I did think about it. ;)