here's the episode discussion thread for 3.06.

and my first comment is...yay, I knew Hiro had to have a plan!!

ando dying this time was almost comical

"like mr. e-sock" ... AMAZING

Hehe, I was so happy to hear "Mr. E-sock" again.
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NOO!! I was hoping to see Adam around for a while.

good heavens. bye adam. :(

oh my, he stole adam monroe's power??? or something else?

evening all.
That is a creepy power that mr petrelli has - I don't think we have seen the last of Adam tho

Yay Hiro! A hero must know these things!
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Ewww! MoSlither is getting really gross. I am just glad they are leaving his face alone...

hiro's really on his comedy game tonight

*giggle* Helllooo? Mr. African E-Sock?

The exterior of Doyle's looks really familiar. Is that something in Hollywood?

Yes so far a good Hiro episode. He is now a Billan- a bad-***.
They have done a good job at making mr Puppetman very creepy.

So we have 2 'warring' companies...Primatech and Pinehurst.
Primatech is Mrs Petrelli and Pinehurst is Mr P (hence the P names)
Mrs Ps side is kinda bad but Mr Ps side is really bad.

LOLOL Hiro is going to have a bad headache after this episode!
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The Advil Episode...
Have they replaced Nissan as a sponsor? All of the head-whacking is starting to give me a headache just from watching. Not that I am complaining mind you.

Ok... I think that Petrilli Senior has a variant of the stealing powers power. He kills his subjects. In a very yucky way...
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PETER's GONE OFF THE DEEP END!!!!!
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What do they have over Daphne..??
What's up with the logo again..?? That's pretty cool...

I actually find myself wondering if one could carry a tortoise on an airplane, or whether it would be considered an exotic animal.

I also wonder how much product placement Universal Studios Hollywood is getting from that shirt.

aha, the logo we've been seeing was only ever half of the symbol.

oh well then, complete power suck, interesting

yeah glad to see the return of the symbol

Holy crap..... Papa Petrelli stole Peter's powers... That was insane...

Holy crap..... Papa Petrelli stole Peter's powers... That was insane...

I loved it! It was a WTF moment with staying power. Even after seeing Adam get his power stolen, I was not expecting that, at least not at the door within the first minute of reunion! :eek: Pa P is a BADDIE! Cool.

I liked this epi a lot better than the previous one's It still didn't make a great action jump, but Pa P's revival added quite the twist. Hiro's scenes were classic. Much better! I've been okay with Daphne, but it was kinda interesting seeing her errand runs and how she let her emotions develop in this epi.

Questions:
Pa P, Sylar, and Peter seem to share the same power - absorb other's power(s). But, they differ greatly in how they get the power. Sylar has to see how it works in the brain, Peter has to be in vacinity, and Pa P (seems to have) to be in physical contact. Sylar's method has, mostly, left his victims dead with blood loss and an exposed brain. Peter has not had to kill anyone to get his powers. Pa P seems to have the choice.

So, who is the more advanced of the three? I know Pa P has had more time to strengthen his power, but it almost seems like Peter is the most advanced example of the power since he can just absorb them, most of them anyway.

What do we believe about Peter's power loss since F!Peter came back with all powers intact? Should we entertain the thought that the butterfly effect has made the F!Peter we saw up to now become non-existent? Or, will Peter get his power's back and still end up the same F!Peter we've been seeing this season?

here's the episode discussion thread for 3.06.

and my first comment is...yay, I knew Hiro had to have a plan!!

I thought of you, Carency, when this played out like it did. :grin: I am so glad he and Ando worked together and made it look so real.

I'm also really liking Daphne. I hope she and Matt can work together on the right side along with the African precog. If someone caught his name, I would love to hear it.
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I actually find myself wondering if one could carry a tortoise on an airplane, or whether it would be considered an exotic animal.

I wondered the same thing. It didn't seem to ring true that he would be allowed to take the turtle on the plane. :shrug:

aha, the logo we've been seeing was only ever half of the symbol.

:doh: That's why that logo looked so familiar. It was the two halves together to make a whole strand. Thanks!
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I loved it! It was a WTF moment with staying power. Even after seeing Adam get his power stolen, I was not expecting that, at least not at the door within the first minute of reunion! :eek: Pa P is a BADDIE! Cool.

I liked this epi a lot better than the previous one's It still didn't make a great action jump, but Pa P's revival added quite the twist. Hiro's scenes were classic. Much better! I've been okay with Daphne, but it was kinda interesting seeing her errand runs and how she let her emotions develop in this epi.

Questions:
Pa P, Sylar, and Peter seem to share the same power - absorb other's power(s). But, they differ greatly in how they get the power. Sylar has to see how it works in the brain, Peter has to be in vacinity, and Pa P (seems to have) to be in physical contact. Sylar's method has, mostly, left his victims dead with blood loss and an exposed brain. Peter has not had to kill anyone to get his powers. Pa P seems to have the choice.

So, who is the more advanced of the three? I know Pa P has had more time to strengthen his power, but it almost seems like Peter is the most advanced example of the power since he can just absorb them, most of them anyway.

What do we believe about Peter's power loss since F!Peter came back with all powers intact? Should we entertain the thought that the butterfly effect has made the F!Peter we saw up to now become non-existent? Or, will Peter get his power's back and still end up the same F!Peter we've been seeing this season?

That was definitely a WTF moment, golf!! I think, since we know that Peter gets his powers back that his is the more advanced power due to him just having to be near the power. As for the future?? :shrug: My first thought is why let us see it if they can't head it off.
I'm also thinking that maybe Peter didn't lose his original power which is absorption and maybe that will come into play in the next few episodes.

I can't believe that's how they ended Adam's life!! 400 years of living and it just gets sucked right out of him. I've also wondered if he is an ancestor of Pa P since I believe that his abililty is the same as Claire's. If that's the case, that makes Pa P a true sociopath, doesn't it??

As creepy as the scenes were with the PuppetMaster, I think they served a larger good for not only Claire but her two mothers. For one thing, Claire got to see just how strong her mom is and she doesn't even have an ability. It showed Meredith that motherhood isn't just genetics.

Did anyone else think that ice bolts were about to shoot out of Tracy's hands??! I did or, at least, I was hoping. Maybe in warding off MoSlither, she'll find out that this is a side ability connected to the freeze ability.

I'm much more hopeful for the direction of the show after tonight's episode. I'm glad I decided to stick it out which is usually the case with this show and Lost.

I am somewhat befuddled about the theft of Peter's abilities and how it fits into the (many) timelines we have so far. Future!Peter obviously still had his abilities...and yet this would explain how Future!Peter could end up with a scar when he has Claire's healing ability.

It very well could explain by Peter has a scar in the future.
I'm wondering if any of what we've seen in the last couple of episodes means that the future we've seen has been negated somewhat. Remember, in the future Mohinder was acting like the same person he was before he injected himself with the serum; Peter had his powers as did Sylar; as far as we know, Nathan was with Nikki not Tracy and I'm sure there are other things that I've forgotten.

i think the futures been butterflied...

and also i think that papa p stealing adams powers just didnt make him mortal but it also all the aging he missed out on caught up to him.

It very well could explain by Peter has a scar in the future.
I'm wondering if any of what we've seen in the last couple of episodes means that the future we've seen has been negated somewhat. Remember, in the future Mohinder was acting like the same person he was before he injected himself with the serum; Peter had his powers as did Sylar; as far as we know, Nathan was with Nikki not Tracy and I'm sure there are other things that I've forgotten.

The scar - yes. Didn't Peter get some type of scar when he blew up, even though he didn't die? And was it S2 or S1 when F!Peter appeared in the subway to Hiro (when Hiro first learned others could do what he does)? Didn't Peter have a scar then? Was it the same scar we've seen this season? If that the subway was S1, then the scar was from him blowing up. But, he's had a scar, not had it, had it, not had it. I'm getting more and more confused with every word I type ;).

As for Nathan with Niki in the future, are you talking about when Nathan is being interviewed as the President? I though that was Tracy with him there. They had already met in the present and Linderman (Maury's projection) told Nathan that he was still destined for the White House. It seemed to all fit well IMO. Tracy starts off as his contact with the Governor and ends up as his First Lady.

Remember we have seen two futures - one from Peter, one from Hiro. I honestly don't recall straight away who's future version Nathan was in, I think it was Peter's. Did Hiro go anywhere in the future besides the bridge/ catwalk in Tokyo where he sees Ando with powers kill him?

Nonetheless, I'm with gus, I think the future's been heavily butterflied to now. I think it's on purpose though since we got that warning from Ma P so early in the season. I guess we are supposed to try and put it all together. This could be good or bad seeing how many of us pick apart the continuity. But, I guess if you're dealing with the future, is there any real continuity to something that hasn't happened yet? Especially with the Butterfly Effect likely changing elements of the future, but not necessarily the major events? I dunno.

Still enjoying the plot though! :grin:

Just watched, quick thoughts:

-I think someone alluded to this, but to those who think Papa P killed Adam - Adam only died because he no longer had the power of regeneration to keep his 400 year old cells alive. Poor Adam, though, wish he was still around.

-Peter's scar - could have come through loss of power and then regaining it. But I hate that it was used in both S1 and S3 future storylines. In S1's future, Peter was with NIKKI, who is clearly dead now. So that future has been entirely negated. I think the future where Ando kills Hiro and Mohinder has completely become the fly is the one we are headed toward, still...

-Daphne + Matt = :heart:. That is all.
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Questions:
Pa P, Sylar, and Peter seem to share the same power - absorb other's power(s). But, they differ greatly in how they get the power. Sylar has to see how it works in the brain, Peter has to be in vacinity, and Pa P (seems to have) to be in physical contact. Sylar's method has, mostly, left his victims dead with blood loss and an exposed brain. Peter has not had to kill anyone to get his powers. Pa P seems to have the choice.
I think Peter was the most powerful (IS, if he still has his original ability, which seems unlikely). He doesn't have to do anything to his subjects to get their powers.

I'm seeing Peter regaining his ability through the formula. He should get the same one he had before, because of the nature of his DNA (or whatever Mohinder explained to Maya).

Just watched, quick thoughts:

-I think someone alluded to this, but to those who think Papa P killed Adam - Adam only died because he no longer had the power of regeneration to keep his 400 year old cells alive. Poor Adam, though, wish he was still around.

-Peter's scar - could have come through loss of power and then regaining it. But I hate that it was used in both S1 and S3 future storylines. In S1's future, Peter was with NIKKI, who is clearly dead now. So that future has been entirely negated. I think the future where Ando kills Hiro and Mohinder has completely become the fly is the one we are headed toward, still...

-Daphne + Matt = :heart:. That is all.
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I think Peter was the most powerful (IS, if he still has his original ability, which seems unlikely). He doesn't have to do anything to his subjects to get their powers.

I'm seeing Peter regaining his ability through the formula. He should get the same one he had before, because of the nature of his DNA (or whatever Mohinder explained to Maya).

Good point about how Adam died. If it's correct, which seems plausible, then we can not be for sure whether or not Pa P can purposely kill when he absorbs a power. Do you know for certain through a spoiler or such that this is what happened to Adam, or is it your intelligent deduction? Either way, it does sound likely.

Hmm, Peter and the formula - I hadn't thought of that.

True to Heroes, there are many directions this could go.

.yay, I knew Hiro had to have a plan!!

Brlliant! With the time-travely this week, he also had many copies! :biggrin:

I got confused when Peter didn't die whan PapaPetrelli did the powersuckdango on him, given what had happened to Adam, but then i figured of course, Adam is like hundreds and hundreds of years old without powers, so would likley crumble and die without them. I reckon that makes sense given Adam's "NOOOOO!" reaction to reading PapaPetrelli's mind. Otoh, given that Adam, like Peter, had multiple powers (I always remember the reveal in S2 when Adam tells AmnesiacPeter that they were alike etc), did PapaPetrelli really need to powersuck the both of them? Hmmmm.

Ok...Peter gets his scar somehow by not having Claire's powers. However, he gets his powers back ( or some variations of his original makeup ) and becomes even more powerful.

Adam - well that has been very well covered. If you're 400 years old and all of a sudden all your protective outer shell is gone ... POOF!!!

I could do without the sappy Parkman. He really is getting on my nerves. "You see...I have seen the future... You're SUPPOSED to be with me.." C'mon Parkman... you can do better than that. I liked you better when you were dealing with a cheating wife and just learning about your powers.

Hiro - CLASSIC stuff. You gotta love the bumbling Hiro ... he is too dang funny. Anywho...great show and great posts everyone... Now to vist the waffle house.

Good point about how Adam died. If it's correct, which seems plausible, then we can not be for sure whether or not Pa P can purposely kill when he absorbs a power. Do you know for certain through a spoiler or such that this is what happened to Adam, or is it your intelligent deduction? Either way, it does sound likely.
My own brilliant deduction. :biggrin:

I am just getting tired of Parkman calling his little shelled friend a Turtle.

He definitely does need to get a more imaginative name, doesn't he, Karri?

I, too, think that when PapaP took the immortality power, that reverted Adam to a 400 year old man with all the injuries he'd sustained through the centuries.
I didn't think of Peter taking the formula especially when he saw what it lead to but Peter's hellbent on being "special" so that does make sense.