Hello again. Sun was very sinister looking when she saw Kate at the hotel which leads me to believe that she might have sent the lawers to Kate to start the process of getting all of the lies exposed and getting to Ben and Jack, who she feels are truly responsible for Jin's death. Any thoughts?

I could see Sun/Widmore sending the lawyers to Kate, I think Sun plans to kidnap Aaron as a part of her revenge scheme. I thought her line, Aaron and Ji Yeon will have to play together was foreshadowing. That having been said, I could see Ben hiring the lawyers not to kidnap or obtain Aaron but just knowing that Kate's first reaction would be to run and that would help him get her to return to the island.

^ Pretty much. She almost called Jack, which was what Ben wanted.

Gotta be Ben's doing.

I'm leaning towards it being Clairs mother. By now she must know Clairs was 8 months pregnant when she got on the plane and there has to be tons of new footage of Kate being arrested right before she got on the plane and not looking pregnant.

I'm gonna say no. I think, and this is just my guess, that Claire "visited" her mother much like she "visited" Kate and accidentily triggered the investigation.

she sure was creepy, wasn't she?

but i think it was

ben. it would be a way for him to get her to leave and go back to the island. for her the island would be safe.

My husband thinks it whidmore, but I think it's ben. hadn't thought of it being sun or claire, though. good call!!

I have no clue on who may have sent the lawers but I really thought Sun was so unaturally creepy, even to Kate, that something definately is up with her.

I could see Sun/Widmore sending the lawyers to Kate, I think Sun plans to kidnap Aaron as a part of her revenge scheme. I thought her line, Aaron and Ji Yeon will have to play together was foreshadowing. That having been said, I could see Ben hiring the lawyers not to kidnap or obtain Aaron but just knowing that Kate's first reaction would be to run and that would help him get her to return to the island.
Aaron would probably be better off with Sun. Living as a renegade with Kate can't be too healthy for a young kid, eh?

I think it is a Sun/Widmore plot as well.

I think it was probably Ben now too, trying to set things in motion.

If you think about it, the only people in the real world who know are either someone in the O6 or Ben.

For a moment I thought it might have been Jack's doing, since he was angry with Kate and knowing that Aaron is technically his nephew, but then I figured it would be against his interest since he's the one who pushed for the lie in the first place.

Hello again. Sun was very sinister looking when she saw Kate at the hotel which leads me to believe that she might have sent the lawers to Kate to start the process of getting all of the lies exposed and getting to Ben and Jack, who she feels are truly responsible for Jin's death. Any thoughts?

I had that very same thought that it was Sun behind those lawyers. I don't think she blames Kate for Jin's death & don't know about her revenge on Ben & Jack but I have a feeling that Jin is not dead after all.

Or maybe its just me hoping he's not truly dead. :undecide:

Ben? Maybe? To get her to be on the run so she would go back?
Jack? Maybe? To get her to be on the run so she would go back?
Sun? My vote. To get revenge for not finding Jin?

At any rate, Kate was pretty cagy, too. At first, she kept telling Sun that everything was fine and dandy. If she had trusted Sun, she would have asked for her help.

Ben? Maybe? To get her to be on the run so she would go back?
Jack? Maybe? To get her to be on the run so she would go back?
Sun? My vote. To get revenge for not finding Jin?

My vote is for Ben...

At any rate, Kate was pretty cagy, too. She kept telling Sun that everything was fine and dandy. If she had trusted Sun, she would have asked for her help.

That's nothing new though, Kate almost never trusts anyone or asks anyone for help.

jack would never do that to her. if and when he finds out who did it, he will be very angry. no matter whether it gets her to the island or not. jack isn't that manipulative.

Ben & Jack ? Kate is loaded so to send her on the run doesn't mean she would run back to a very dangerous island.
Infact that maybe why she was so happy that Sun called her. Sun could help her start over on the other side of the world.

Sun? Maybe as revenge to screw up her life, but I doubt it. As mad as she maybe at Kate, she also knows that Aaron could be in a lot of danger. Being a mom herself she isn't going to risk that little boy.

Claires mom? At this point she has to know Clair was pregnant and through the news know that Kate was not.

Claire herself? She may know that Kate will head back to the island with Aaron and is doing her best to stop her.

Windmore? He may want Aaron for something.

I think it was Ben. So she would contact Jack and it would be easier to bring everyone back together.

If it were Sun, then wouldn't that expose the oceanic 6 lies? No, I don't think it was Sun.

I don't think that Jack would do something that devious either.

Probably Ben to get Kate scared enough to run like she has in the past. We saw that she was thinking of turning to Jack for help as she debated calling him. I believe that Ben wants her to flee and that his next step is to try to convince her to go back to the island.

I say Ben too. He's the master manipulator and this is his way of bringing Kate back into the fold. He did tell Jack that he had some ideas about how to go about getting everyone back together. (But I don't think Jack knew what Ben was doing - Jack would never let him do that to Kate if he knew)

i vote that it was Ben trying to manipulate her back to the island as well.

I think Aaron ordered it.

Widmore. He knows the baby was born on the island. It would also give him leverage over Kate to find out what she knows and see if that can help him find the island. He can't just kidnap and interrogate the others because of their celebrity status but if he can manipulate one of them into talking...

I think Aaron ordered it.

... from the future.
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Maybe Claire ordered it.

I think it's Ben too. He is manipulating the O6 to get them back together, and this was his way of getting Kate. Ben did say to Jack last season that he had a plan for getting the O6 back together, and I think this was part of that plan.

I could see Sun/Widmore sending the lawyers to Kate, I think Sun plans to kidnap Aaron as a part of her revenge scheme. I thought her line, Aaron and Ji Yeon will have to play together was foreshadowing. That having been said, I could see Ben hiring the lawyers not to kidnap or obtain Aaron but just knowing that Kate's first reaction would be to run and that would help him get her to return to the island.

Totally 100% agreed!!

I think it's Sun and Widmore, trying to get at Aaron because Aaron is important to Ben. He needs to get them all back. I think they're going to attempt to use Aaron as bait to draw Ben out so Widmore can pull the old snatch and grab.

Plus, how many people know Kate is lying? Like Sun said, if the client was legit, he wouldn't remain anonymous, obviously whoever it is wants to scare Kate into running. Sun and Widmore seem most likely to me now, after the strange vibe (and accompanying music) from her and Kate's meeting. Ben is also a candidate, as he always is, but seems less likely to me.

Sun was acting very strange last night, but I still think that the lawyers were all part of Ben's plan to get Kate to run like she always does and to contact Jack.

I see no real motive for this, but just had this odd thought... What about the helicopter pilot? What was his name? Lipinski?? not sure. He knows the truth too.

For what we actually know, Lapidus has no reason to want to have anything to do with Ben or Widmore's plots so I don't think it's him.
I had thought it was Ben until the scene with Sun but now I'm not so sure. Until we see a little more, I'm on the fence because it could be either of them.

Ben? So Kate is forced to go back to the Island?

yeah I think we can safely factor out Lapidus. He seems like the kind of guy who just wants to be left alone and stay out of it all.

I'm voting Ben. I think it will make it easier to get her back on the island if she knows that there is a threat where they are and that she could possibly lose Aaron.

I also think it was Ben. Seems like most of us feel that way.

Was that Thomas (Aaron's father) standing behind the attorney at Kate's door?
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By the way, I have long theorized that Thomas (Aaron's father) is a Widmore (Penny's brother). His paintings are seen in Charles Widmore's office.

For what we actually know, Lapidus has no reason to want to have anything to do with Ben or Widmore's plots so I don't think it's him.
I had thought it was Ben until the scene with Sun but now I'm not so sure. Until we see a little more, I'm on the fence because it could be either of them.

I'm with you. It could be either, but the way the episode unfolded, it does make sense that it would be Sun.

I'm with you. It could be either, but the way the episode unfolded, it does make sense that it would be Sun.

That's the only place we can go with it. It smacks more of Ben, though.

I think Sun blames Jack for pulling Kate to the chopper before she could find Jin. I think although she said she wants Ben dead (and may blame him to an extent) I think she was telling Widmore what he wants to hear out of expediency and her ultimate goal is to get to Jack. Taking Aaron would certainly accomplish that, you took someone I love, I'll take someone you care about -- Aaron... also, someone (widmore?) wants Aaron anyway and Sun might be willing to use that even if it involves a young child if it lets her get revenge... Sayid kind of went off the rails the same way in avenging Nadia, not caring who else got caught in the cross-fire

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Last season Sun told her father (in a flash forward of before she had the baby) that there were two people responsible for Jins death and her father was one of them. I'm not sure why she would blame Ben for Jins death because even though it is his fault the boat blew up, (by killing Keemy) its not his fault because he didn't send the explosives filled boat in the first place. Widmore did, and they all know it. I don't think anyone except Locke knew that killing Keemy would result in the boat blowing up. So I suspect shes blaming Widmore privately but playing the whole double agent thing.
That being said, I think it was probably Ben who sent the lawyers to Kate to get her running. Like she always does. Maybe even with Jacks help. Send lawyers, she'll panic and run and call Jack cause hes Mr. Fixit and poof, they have Kate and Aaron to return with........

Was that Thomas (Aaron's father) standing behind the attorney at Kate's door?
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By the way, I have long theorized that Thomas (Aaron's father) is a Widmore (Penny's brother). His paintings are seen in Charles Widmore's office.

Good catch. I immediately thought this was the case too. Widmore wants his grandson and the abilities he possesses. Also, his being born on The Island may give him specific talents in locating The Island in any space/time.

I get the feeling that it's Charles Widmore that ordered the paternity test.

Sun per Widmore's suggestion.

I also thought it was Ben. But...Sun seemed very sure of what she said to Kate, that they wouldn't go after dna samples and would just expose the lie. So, now, I'm not so sure. I don't think it was Claire's mother though. I think it's either Ben or Sun to manipulate Kate into doing what they want her to do.
Sun told her wouldn't you do anything for Aaron? Or something like that. Hmmm...maybe now I'm leaning more towards it was Sun, and she called and invited her up to see her pretty soon after the lawyers visited her.

Sun per Widmore's suggestion.

Ditto. Kate goes on the run, becomes amenable to Ben's suggestion to return to the island...Sun and Charles follow Kate, who leads them to Jack and Ben.

I could see Sun/Widmore sending the lawyers to Kate, I think Sun plans to kidnap Aaron as a part of her revenge scheme. I thought her line, Aaron and Ji Yeon will have to play together was foreshadowing. That having been said, I could see Ben hiring the lawyers not to kidnap or obtain Aaron but just knowing that Kate's first reaction would be to run and that would help him get her to return to the island.

I agree. Since Ben knows the butcher lady it shows he as a web of outside islanders working for him.

My vote is for Widmore.

My vote's on Widmore. Aaron is the first baby born on the island (that we know of) since Alex. Perhaps Widmore wanted Alex, too, which is why Ben took her in and protected her and was willing to see her die (think about it; the freighties may not have known who she was, and killing her was the best way to keep her safe as far as Ben saw it. If this is the case, it would explain his aforethought callous behaviour).

Perhaps children born on the Island are especially connected to it in some way? Perhaps this is why redhead-archaeologist-lady can't think of her name right now wanted to come back, as mentioned by Miles last season? Was she born here?

This actually ties in with my new belief that Miles is Dr. Cheng-Hallowax-Candle's son. If he was born on-island, and if Daniel was, too, then that would explain the particular group that was chosen by Widmore to go with the freighties.

Longwinded, sorry, but yeah, my vote is with Widmore.

I think paulv70 is probably right. As Sun pointed out if this was legit, for example Claire's mom, the lawyers would have been more upfront about what was going on. The party bringing a civil suit against another is always named in the suit. And I don't think Ben would use this as a tactic to get to to flee to the Island, since as somedody else pointed out she's much more likely to just flee to another country. But using the paternity test as leverage to get information, that seems likely.

Ok, let's see who benefits from disclosing that Kate is not Aaron's mom.

Ben does, if Kate turns to Jack or is frightened enough to go anywhere, even back to the island... But if Kate disappears it's not that beneficial to Ben either...

Widmore... I dunno, maybe. But if they find out that he is not kate's son, they will also find out that he is Jack's nephew - if not for anything else but Kate won't let him go to an orphanage. So Aaron would go to his grandma to Australia eventually. Why would that be beneficial to Widmore?

I'm leaning towards Sun actually.

That scene with Kate showed her as cool and manipulative in what was frankly somewhat scary. The gut punch to her to plant the seed in Kate about responsibility for Jin's death. The "offhand" question about Jack.

I think she's trying to keep Kate off balance and plant a seed she can nurture to turn her against any possibility of positive interaction with ben (who I think is an easy enough target given his reputation to pin the blame on)

I agree with Ahasuers. Sun said, "Thanks for tricking me on to the helicopter so we all didn't die." I paraphrased, but she end with "just my husband." She said exactly that. Why would she phrase it like that? I thought it sounded very accusatory. That makes me think she may be involved some how.

I am also going with sun via widmore. Too coincidental that the scene after she is held by widmore she ends up in the same city as Kate and calls her at the perfect moment. She is definately up to something.

It is really sounding like Sun is the one who ordered the paternity test via Widmore. It is a bit convenient for her to be in town calling Kate shortly after the lawyer arrives. Also consider her probing nature in asking Kate if she really was okay. Very suspicous now that I look back on it.

Another interesting point I don't think has been mentioned yet is how Sun seemed pretty confident that the men arriving at Kate's door doesn't really want to reveal any "lies" or they would have already made this investigation public. Sure seems like she is "in the know" here, doesn't it?

My question now, assuming the Widmore/Sun theory, is why? It looks like we've been offered two suggestions: first, to set her up with the desire to follow Jack and Ben back to the island. The other is that Aaron really is the grandson of Widmore and may be a "connection" to the island.

Hadn't considered Sun/Widmore being the one to order the bloodwork. Interesting concept.

I can see how people think it was Sun/Widmore, but it wasn't. Sun herself said that if someone truely was interested in exposing the lie, they would just take what they wanted. Instead, all they did was scare her.

I also suspect the two guys who came to her door were Gabriel and Jeffrey mentioned by Ben to Jill in the butcher shop.

Additionally, I agree with AlaskaBean. I also started thinking during last night's episode that Sun is working Widmore. Sun's who character development has revolved around people (and the audience) underestimating her. She's an extremely deep and manipulative person. If anyone could get to close to Widmore to take him down, it would be her.

i vote Sun!

I also started thinking during last night's episode that Sun is working Widmore. Sun's who character development has revolved around people (and the audience) underestimating her. She's an extremely deep and manipulative person. If anyone could get to close to Widmore to take him down, it would be her.

Exactly...if she's got an axe to grind with anyone for Jin's demise, Widmore's gotta be pretty high on the list.

Now take it a step farther. Who would get the 'benefit' of a blood test re: Aaron, assuming Kate would lose custody? Claire's mom. I gotta think she's in on it.

I have to say that I never thought that it was Sun. It just seemed right up Ben's alley. That being said, I am not sure they even were lawyers. If it was Ben or Sun they easily could have hired someone to pretend to be lawyers and scare Kate in the direction that they want her to go. Both of them know her well enough to know what her reaction would be.

Ok I have not read all the posts and do not know if this has been said, but I just want to throw this out there

Walt

Yeah I know he is just a kid but in last season when Walt came to visit Hurley and said that Locke came to see him that made me remember that Hurley owed Walt a bunch of money from palying backgammon. What if he used that money to buy some Lawers and throw the TRUTH out there because he knows what happend for the most part on the Island he knows that Aaron is Claires. If no one came to see him then he could be tring to figure out why kate has Aaron.

Originally I was *SURE* that Sun did as she seems pretty revengeful after Jin died (even though I don't think he did). But after rewatching the epi, I'm almost positive it was Ben. I mean, we all know how manipulative he is...and he assured Jack that he would get Kate to come back. It just seems like a "Ben" thing to do.

I think the intro music on Sun and what was played in the background as she spoke or when the camera panned to her, was anything but ambiguous. Menacing undertone, Sun's cool, collected stare. She's in on it somehow.

It'd be interestnig if she were playing both sides, though after seeing the preview for next week, that idea seems less probable.

It's hard to catch in watching it, but there's screen caps on all the major spoiler sites and it appears she's holding a gun on Ben, at night, on the docks. If don't think she'd do that if she were playing both sides.

I think it was Ben. So she would contact Jack and it would be easier to bring everyone back together.

I agree. At first I thought it was Carol Littleton but I realized that Claire's mom didn't know about Claire's pregnancy at least with what we know up to this point. Ben told Jack that he would handle the situation with Kate and I think this was a clever way of getting Kate to run.

I could see Sun/Widmore sending the lawyers to Kate, I think Sun plans to kidnap Aaron as a part of her revenge scheme. I thought her line, Aaron and Ji Yeon will have to play together was foreshadowing. That having been said, I could see Ben hiring the lawyers not to kidnap or obtain Aaron but just knowing that Kate's first reaction would be to run and that would help him get her to return to the island.
I definiteley think Ben is behind it, for just that reason.
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I have no clue on who may have sent the lawers but I really thought Sun was so unaturally creepy, even to Kate, that something definately is up with her. I think Sun does blame Kate at least partially for Jen, since Kate held her back but promised to get Jen off the freighter. I dont think Sun is behind the so- called lawyers, I think its Ben. This thing with Sun, it will prove very interesting I think, lets see how far she will go for revenge. Honor is a huge thing among koreans, I really think she will call Kate out for her part in Jen's "death"

A few things.

First, Sun was already headed to LA prior to Widmore having her brought to customs, so I don't think it was Sun.

Secondly, I think whoever did it would have to have some standing in order to get the test. IE, Father or a relative. It's not like anybody off the street can just ask for and get a paternity test. Yes, Ben and Widmore do seem powerful enough to get whatever they want so you can't count them out.

I really think it was Claire's Mom. Claire appeared to Kate and told her not to bring Aaron back. SHe could have also appeared to her Mother telling her that Aaron is her son. Also telling her mother not to make it public. It would accomplish 2 things. If Kate does the test then she would have to give Aaron to Claire's mother and that keeps Aaron off the Island or Kate runs like she did keeping her away from Ben.

Ironically, the Psychic told Claire not to let her son be raised by another. Through all the twists and turns, that is exactly what ends up happening.

I don't know if it's Claire's mom.

Who's to say those were even real lawyers anyway? It does seem like a gambit to get Kate running again.

After consideration, it may not be a Sun/Widmore scheme at all, but strictly a Sun scheme. The Michael Giacchino music accompanying her scene with Kate is highly suggestive of some dark objective on Sun's part. imo. Maybe she just wants Kate to feel loss like she feels loss.

It'll be interesting to see what Sun, now the head of Paik Industries and apparently working with Widmore on something (though not necessarily an Aaron thing) is up to this season.

I really think the most telling Sun made was: Wouldn't you do anything to protect your Child? or something to that effect.

Whatever Sun is doing is to Protect her Child. She may have wanted revenge for Jin's death at first but something happened. What we don't know yet that is making her an accomplice, whether with Ben to get everyone back to the Island or with Widmore to keep them from getting back to the Island. Or is Widmore also trying to get everyone back to the Island also?

remember he Told Ben that the Island was his before Ben took it form him and will be his again.

I agree. At first I thought it was Carol Littleton but I realized that Claire's mom didn't know about Claire's pregnancy at least with what we know up to this point. Ben told Jack that he would handle the situation with Kate and I think this was a clever way of getting Kate to run.

Yes... to Flush Kate out and make her call Jack for help.

If the men didn't lie and were real lawyers, there has to be someone who really has a good reason to want this test. The told her to get back with the sherrif and that a judge had sign this paper.
I guess it's someone who has much money and convinced the judge that Aaron might not be her son. But of course, why would he or she do this?

Ben -> wants to have Kate + Aaron back on the island
Widmore -> maybe too or wants to show that her maternity is a lie
Sun -> Revenge or works together either with Ben or Widmore
Someone of Claire's family

I don't think anyone ordered a paternity test, in fact I don't remember ever having heard of one on the show so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

I do remember someone ordering a Maternity test for Kate :) If you are curious about who ordered the maternity test, my best guess would be Ben. Kate was the most comfortable in her post island life and least willing to return. Now she is at least out of her zone and would be more willing to go back.

Secondly, I think whoever did it would have to have some standing in order to get the test. IE, Father or a relative. It's not like anybody off the street can just ask for and get a paternity test. Yes, Ben and Widmore do seem powerful enough to get whatever they want so you can't count them out.

My initial reaction was I thought it was Ben trying to scare Kate. But because of the quote above, and that I think it being Ben seems too predictable, I am now unsure who sent the lawyers. It's not really the common practice for lawyers to show up to homes requesting blood when it comes to paternity tests, so this makes me question if the lawyers really are lawyers or just some of Charles Widmore's men or someone else.

It does sorta seem like Sun is acting oddly and I wouldn't rule out her being up to something.

Also, a little fun fact: The pregnancy test Sun used on the Island in Season 2 was made by Widmore Laboratories. :cool:

It has to be Sun, when they were talking and Kate mentioned the lawyers she waaaay overacted. It's as if when they were filming, the director shouted "PUT ON YOUR GUILTY FACE", and she just freaked and made it too obvious.

My money's on Ben. It's a good way to bring Kate to Jack, and she nearly did call him. Perhaps Sun's call put a wrench in Ben's plan?

Either way, I can't see it being Jack: he wouldn't stoop that low, he's a man of integrity (current depression notwithstanding). He'd never hurt or scare her like that.

Plus, that takes some planning. He's been at rock bottom, boozin and pill poppin for atleast a month, by my math (:eek:...)

Plus for all the reasons you said. :biggrin:

The more I think about this, the more convinced I become that Ben is the one pulling the strings. After all, who would benefit the most from this scenario which would bring all of the O6 together (and all with an open mind about getting back to the island)? Ben, of course, who has only 70 hours to take advantage of the event window. In re-watching the scene in the airport with Sun and Widmore, the line that got my attention was Widmore's "I will be respected, Sun". Doesn't this sound a little like Mr. Paik?...and we all know how that one turned out. I think Sun is playing Widmore, with Ben's help.

Since Ben always has a plan, perhaps he convinced Locke to come along for the ride as well...Ben uses Bentham to convince Sun that Jin is still alive on the island, and Jack that he's got to go back to save his friends. Sun then works with Ben to Orchestrate the meeting with Widmore and set up the maternity test hoax, perhaps because Ben knew that if he tried to do this behind Widmore's back it would fail. The O6 are all now together, and all willing to return to the island. Even John gets his wish (the O6 returning tho the island with his corpse).

But...I don't think that John is really dead. Ben knows better than to go against Hurley's warning ("You're not supposed to raise him"). I think John may be in for a surprise when he gets back to the island and finds out he's still alive. As for the preview that shows Sun pointing a gun at Ben...we should know by now that these teasers are thrown out there to lead us down the garden path.

I think that it was Carole Littleton, Claire's mom. If we are to believe that this is indeed a real order for a real paternity test then it seems most logical that it would be someone of blood relation. Did she do this on her own though? I don't think so, I am leaning toward Ben (with Jack's help?) being the one that told Carole that this was really her grandson that was rescued from the island in order to make Kate run back to Jack. Then the best option to keep Aaron safe would be to take him back to the island with all of them.

Although I do like the idea of it being Sun, as it would show that she blames Kate just as much as her father and Ben, but i don't think it is just cause she said to her own father she blamed two people for Jin's "death" (he ain't dead), her father and one other who she said was Ben.

I'd go with the 'combo' answer above.
I think it was Claire's Mom, but with Ben hiring the lawyers that put the bug in her ears. I'm not an expert, but i think whoever demands that sort of test must show to have a personal connection (as in "that's my grandson!")...not just anyone could get a court order to do it. Would it also mean that C's Mom could get a another big payday from Oceanic Airlines?

The more I think about this, the more convinced I become that Ben is the one pulling the strings. After all, who would benefit the most from this scenario which would bring all of the O6 together (and all with an open mind about getting back to the island)? Ben, of course, who has only 70 hours to take advantage of the event window. In re-watching the scene in the airport with Sun and Widmore, the line that got my attention was Widmore's "I will be respected, Sun". Doesn't this sound a little like Mr. Paik?...and we all know how that one turned out. I think Sun is playing Widmore, with Ben's help.

Since Ben always has a plan, perhaps he convinced Locke to come along for the ride as well...Ben uses Bentham to convince Sun that Jin is still alive on the island, and Jack that he's got to go back to save his friends. Sun then works with Ben to Orchestrate the meeting with Widmore and set up the maternity test hoax, perhaps because Ben knew that if he tried to do this behind Widmore's back it would fail. The O6 are all now together, and all willing to return to the island. Even John gets his wish (the O6 returning tho the island with his corpse).

But...I don't think that John is really dead. Ben knows better than to go against Hurley's warning ("You're not supposed to raise him"). I think John may be in for a surprise when he gets back to the island and finds out he's still alive. As for the preview that shows Sun pointing a gun at Ben...we should know by now that these teasers are thrown out there to lead us down the garden path.

Did Ben know about his seventy hour time limit before the lawyers (if they were) visited Kate? The sequencing of those days, Locke's funeral, Sayid breaking Hurley out, Kate getting visited by Dan Norton, it's tricky to figure out what order it happened in.

Definitely saw the parallel between Widmore and Paik. We saw Sun play the daughter role just how her father wanted up until a point. Paik didn't know what hit him when she turned the tables. Agree that Sun may be running her own scheme against Widmore, though it's tough to know what she gains from that, ultimately.

Seems pretty covert for a vengeance/revenge plot.

While Ben could still be behind the lawyers, it does benefit him to have Kate running, it could also be Sun on her own. Wanting Kate to experience a similar kind of loss. Knowing what that feels like.

I think that it was Carole Littleton, Claire's mom. If we are to believe that this is indeed a real order for a real paternity test then it seems most logical that it would be someone of blood relation. Did she do this on her own though? I don't think so, I am leaning toward Ben (with Jack's help?) being the one that told Carole that this was really her grandson that was rescued from the island in order to make Kate run back to Jack. Then the best option to keep Aaron safe would be to take him back to the island with all of them.

Although I do like the idea of it being Sun, as it would show that she blames Kate just as much as her father and Ben, but i don't think it is just cause she said to her own father she blamed two people for Jin's "death" (he ain't dead), her father and one other who she said was Ben.

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The more I think about this, the more convinced I become that Ben is the one pulling the strings. After all, who would benefit the most from this scenario which would bring all of the O6 together (and all with an open mind about getting back to the island)? Ben, of course, who has only 70 hours to take advantage of the event window. In re-watching the scene in the airport with Sun and Widmore, the line that got my attention was Widmore's "I will be respected, Sun". Doesn't this sound a little like Mr. Paik?...and we all know how that one turned out. I think Sun is playing Widmore, with Ben's help.

Since Ben always has a plan, perhaps he convinced Locke to come along for the ride as well...Ben uses Bentham to convince Sun that Jin is still alive on the island, and Jack that he's got to go back to save his friends. Sun then works with Ben to Orchestrate the meeting with Widmore and set up the maternity test hoax, perhaps because Ben knew that if he tried to do this behind Widmore's back it would fail. The O6 are all now together, and all willing to return to the island. Even John gets his wish (the O6 returning tho the island with his corpse).

But...I don't think that John is really dead. Ben knows better than to go against Hurley's warning ("You're not supposed to raise him"). I think John may be in for a surprise when he gets back to the island and finds out he's still alive. As for the preview that shows Sun pointing a gun at Ben...we should know by now that these teasers are thrown out there to lead us down the garden path.

See that part in spoiler font? Yeah, that is a spoiler and should have been spoiler fonted...

See that part in spoiler font? Yeah, that is a spoiler and should have been spoiler fonted...

Oops. Sorry.

Okay. I now have come to believe that it is Claire's mom that has initiated all of this. However for her to know that Aaron wasn't kate's, was infact Claire's, someone had to tell her. Sun, Ben, someone.

A reminder of what Claire's mom looks like
http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1405-697.html

Pass now. Last chance...Here's a screencap of Claire's mom in the upcoming episode, taken from one of the promo's tha's out. There's no other reason to have her in the episode, though someone definitely had to tip her off.
http://spoilertv.iimmgg.com/image/051698e145613c96aa530fe821f2bd33

I wonder if we'll get a glimpse of Claire at some point later in this season. Hopefully.

i agree. Since ben knows the butcher lady it shows he as a web of outside islanders working for him.

yes!!