What story is Walt telling to explain where he was during his time on the Island?

Doe Walt also have to return to the Island? If not, why not?

Good point. Yeah, what about Walt? And what about Michael's and Jin's remains? If dead Locke needs to go back, why not go scoop up whatever's left of Michael and Jin off the bottom of the sea (or rather, the parts of them that haven't been eaten by fishes), and bring all that mess back to the Island, too?

Im guessing the original S1 drama about Walt has been let slide. Ben made out that he was SO important, that they would never let him go etc...but as soon as he left on the boat, that storyline was basically over.

I have no idea what Walt's lie would be to explain anything. Maybe he and his grandma moved away somewhere where nothing like that would need to be explained to anyone around them.

I believe Walt has to go back. There wouldn't have been that scene with Walt visiting Hurley in S4 if that plotline were going to be dropped.

Hmmm I forgot about Walt...he would have been on the flight manifest for flight 815 so he would be currently listed as dead! He must be going by a different name! Ben did make out that Walt was special but couldnt be controlled or something which is why they were more than happy to let him go! Maybe the island doesnt want him back?

I just assume that Walt is going by a different name too. Michael wouldn't be needed because the island (Christian Shepard) said he was free to go. He didn't escape like the Oceanic 6.

The Walt storyline, if not revisited again, will be the one thing that will forever irk me about LOST. After all that build-up about how special he was, and everything we'd seen as proof, it would be a crime for them to let that drop.

Isn't one of the big questions this season what exactly is meant by the phrase all of you have to go back? Does it mean only the O6 or does it mean everyone involved in these events people like Desmond, Walt, Frank. Did I leave anyone out?

Isn't one of the big questions this season what exactly is meant by the phrase all of you have to go back? Does it mean only the O6 or does it mean everyone involved in these events people like Desmond, Walt, Frank. Did I leave anyone out?

Yeah, Vincent. I just hope he is okay! LOL! Really though, it sure seems like there are several people who have been on and off the Island. Ben goes on and off, as it also seems he helpers or followers. So, why do the O6, etc., have to go back? Where is Sherlock Holmes when you need him!

Isn't one of the big questions this season what exactly is meant by the phrase all of you have to go back? Does it mean only the O6 or does it mean everyone involved in these events people like Desmond, Walt, Frank. Did I leave anyone out?

I don't think Frank or Des have to go back. I think it's purely the O6 and Locke.

Hmmm I forgot about Walt...he would have been on the flight manifest for flight 815 so he would be currently listed as dead! He must be going by a different name!

How does one go about going by a different name in these days of identity-theft paranoia?

Another Walt question: When Hurley told Walt, "We're lying to protect the people still on the Island"(or something to that effect). Why did Walt say, "Like my Dad?" How would he know Michael went back? If you say he's psychic then wouldn't he know his dad is now dead?

How does one go about going by a different name in these days of identity-theft paranoia?
I won't spell it out here, since by doing so I'd be telling you how to do something illegal. However, there are a couple of ways that, although a bit tricky, are pretty safe. It is entirely possible to take on another name, even in this day and age. If you want to know more, check out some of the publications that the now defunct publishing house called Loompanics Unlimited (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loompanics) distributed. But I wash my hands of any wrongdoing that anyone may choose to do from this.

Ben LET Walt go so I don't think that he HAS to go back with the O6. Whatever his purpose was, it's done. I think Frank, however, must be the pilot as he was supposed to be the pilot of flight 815. This all has to do with course correction, putting fate back on track.

Walt told Hurley when he visited him in the institution that Locke had visited him so I'm sure Walt will have a role to play this season in some form. Maybe he'll show the O6 how to "travel" and get messages back to the Losties on the island.

I don't think Frank or Des have to go back. I think it's purely the O6 and Locke.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. If you believe that the various characters werre brought there for a reason, then all who left have to return to complete that greater purpose.

Ben LET Walt go so I don't think that he HAS to go back with the O6. Whatever his purpose was, it's done. I think Frank, however, must be the pilot as he was supposed to be the pilot of flight 815. This all has to do with course correction, putting fate back on track.

Walt told Hurley when he visited him in the institution that Locke had visited him so I'm sure Walt will have a role to play this season in some form. Maybe he'll show the O6 how to "travel" and get messages back to the Losties on the island.

I got the feeling that Ben was afraid of Walt, did you get this?

Frank could very well be course correcting, but how do we save a dead pilot? The Island killed the pilot, so paradox? :confused:

I think before Michael left he talked to Walt about what he was doing. Michael trying to make things right with his son. I'm going to assume Michael told Walt about going back to try and rescue the survivors in hopes of earning his way back to Walt's heart.

When Ben called the sub and said he was Walt, Michael was happy to get the call. As if he didn't expect it, but not surprised it could be Walt.

I think Walt was special in that he had psychic powers before he came to the island, as opposed to most other people who only pick them up after arriving, and therefore Ben wanted to check him out. But he turned out to be irrelevant to the plans of Jacob/the Island/the Universe, so he could be let go. Or else Malcolm David Kelley got tired of the role and moved on to other projects, and his cosmic significance was written out.

I got the feeling that Ben was afraid of Walt, did you get this?
I think Walt was special in that he had psychic powers before he came to the island...
My own take on this was that Walt was someone whom the Others could not control, so he presented a big threat to them. This has to do with the whole business about how the Island can make physically manifest a person's desires - the whole "Magic Box (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_box)" thing that Ben told Locke about. The Others (and presumably DHARMA) had been experimenting with this for years. Well, along comes Walt, who has a huge natural talent to manifest things (the bird hitting the window (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special)during the fight between his mother and step father in Australia as an example), and putting him on the Island cranked this ability up quite a few notches, so that he was incredibly powerful in being able to manifest things.

The problem with a small community like the Others in a situation like this is that if someone can do this, then they pose a huge threat to the security and well-being of the community, unless they can somehow be made to work with the best interests of the community. Somehow, I don't think that Walt was being very keen about working towards the best interests of the Others community, since he viewed them as the enemy who had kidnapped him and were threatening the lives of his fellow Flight 815 survivors.

So, maybe they'll show us someday about what all happened with Walt during his tenure among the Others. I'm sure it got pretty ugly, and the little clip (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Room_23_%28mobisode%29) they showed us last summer of where Walt was being indoctrinated in Room 23, and how he had a continuous stream of birds flying into the window of that room, is only just the tip of the iceberg.

The only problem with all this is that Malcolm David Kelley (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Malcolm_David_Kelley), who plays Walt, is no longer the little kid that he was back in Season One. He's now well into puberty, and looks very different than he did back when the series started. So, if TPTB decide to do some more stuff with Walt, they've got one of three choices:

1) have another actor who looks like Walt did back in Season One portray Walt's character.

2) have Malcolm continue to portray Walt, and hope that the audience will overlook the obvious difference in his age.

3) have Malcom continue to portray Walt, but offer the explanation that he is now from the future, so that's why he has aged...

If we use the premise that since Ben let Walt go - then he doesn't need to go back, then Kate, Sayid, Hurley and Jack don't have to go back because Ben dismissed them as well. Alpert made the deal with Sayid and Kate that they could leave if they helped him rescue Ben. Ben confirmed this. Ben told Jack to get a move on if he was going to leave and made no effort to stop him - so he gave his blessing to Jack and Hurley at that moment. By default - then Frank had Ben's blessing, as he was the only one who could pilot the chopper. The only ones on the chopper that did not have Ben's blessing were Sun, Desmond and Aaron. So getting Ben's blessing to leave the island, to me at least, does not factor in to who has to go back.

I think Walt and Desmond will both have to go back because they both still have a part to play in this rescue. They wouldn't have bothered to show Walt again if he wasn't going to be important later -- the fans would get too upset that his storyline was brought up again and dropped again. Desmond is the rule changer -- so he has to go back.

With regards to Jin and Michael, I don't think Jin is dead. I think he will be found floating on some flotsam and jetsam and rescued. Michael, I believe, was blown to smithereens. Perhaps both Jin and Michael were in the water within the sphere of influence of the island and are time tripping along with the others - just in a different location.

I wonder if the Dharma shark is time tripping? :p

exactly they would not have included him at the end of last season if they did not plan to include him for the return to the Island. I also think that they wont have trouble convincing Walt to go back to the Island. I think he will want to see everyone again.

I wonder if the Dharma shark is time tripping? :p
Well, I for one was one of the Lost fans who was seriously dissappointed last season when it became clear that time travel was actually happening, in spite of the fact that Carlton had specifically stated in a press conference that it wouldn't. So now, everything is up for grabs. The whole series has deteriorated into a gobbledegoop of conjecture and outright fumbling since nothing can be certain. Once they introduced time travel into the plotline - and did so in a huge way - then nothing (and I mean nothing) can be predicted accurately or analyzed empirically by us fans. We're all just now left to witness whatever cockamamee things the writers spew out at us every week, not knowing what is going to happen, because it's all up for grabs now.

I have to wonder what on Earth Walt's grandmother thinks of all this - her son and grandson disappear for a month, supposedly dead in a plane crash. Then they mysteriously turn up on her door, don't tell anyone about the plane.. what do you think they told her? "We were on a big scary island with hostile natives and a giant smoke monster?" But what other story could they possibly invent that would also explain why they didn't contact the media or anything upon their return? They should have been the "Oceanic Two," shouldn't they?

It can't be too difficult to change an identity of a minor who had been living on the other side of the planet almost his entire life. I doubt a new kid in New York coming from Australia raised TOO many red flags.

My theory is that, since Walt & Michael's leaving the island was not a result of the Losties being discovered due to the hatch implosion, they are not needed to return to the island in order to "correct" the timeline of what "sould have" happened, as the O6 are.
Jin's post-island timeline however, WAS determined by the hatch implosion, and he would therefore need to return to the island to correct things.
If however the frieghter was included within the radius of the time shift, then he is technically back with the island and does not need to "return," so to speak.

This is not to say that I don't hope Walt's storyline is explored more... there's a lot of unanswered questions there.

i'm desperate for some Walt answers. Like the bird thing, why did they smash up (on both occasions) i think they won't be able to get to the Island in thr 70 hours and Walt will help them find it

I really hope that they don't abandon the story altogether. Walt and Danielle's story are the 2 nagging Season 1 mysteries that remain (ignoring the obvious, 'what is the island?' and 'what is the Smoke Monster?'), and it would be a shame if they gave up on them, especially agreeing with the fact that it would just be messed up to bring Walt back for one appearance and then still bail on his story.

My idea is that they'll use the time phenomenon to explain away the difference in his appearance. If the O6 are supposed to have been gone for 3 years, and no time has passed on the island, then I would expect them to use that for a number of things. We can go back in the past and see things that people aren't still around to show us (Danielle), and we can explain why Walt looks 3-4 years older than he should.

It could even be that they used the exact time period of 3 years for just that reason.

I was thinking the same exact thing- Walt will be future Walt, which is why Locke made mention of him being taller- explains everything.



My idea is that they'll use the time phenomenon to explain away the difference in his appearance. If the O6 are supposed to have been gone for 3 years, and no time has passed on the island, then I would expect them to use that for a number of things. We can go back in the past and see things that people aren't still around to show us (Danielle), and we can explain why Walt looks 3-4 years older than he should.

It could even be that they used the exact time period of 3 years for just that reason.

I don't think he will. I think Walt and Michael were suppose to leave the island (Michael's death is proof that he wasn't important in that respect) but the oceanic 6 were not.
It's kind of an oxymoron...destiny implies that things cannot be changed. But it appears that it can...and it was when the oceanic 6 left. So they must go back and make things right. That's why "Destiny is calling"

If people are just going to be showing up at different points in time like we've seen so far in S5, then I'm sure Walt will be back on the island.

"You've got work to do, Mr. Locke."

Tall Walt would make much more sense if it were Walt skipping throguh time, too, somehow.