Once again, we see Widmore with more 'interesting art' in his office. Namaste was in red on the top of the larger canvas closest to his desk.

How is this best explained?

Perhaps it was a gift to him from Dharma for his funding.

Seems like were moving on from the murals, behind Widmores secretary and in his office is "Splatter Paint" Murals that look like the work of jackson Pollock, Very famous artist in the 50's with would work in well with the timeline in this epi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Pollock

One wonders when Widmore made his fortune.

Doesn't look rich in 1954.

Did he fund Dharma, or did he convince Hanso to fund Dharma?

And it only happens to be Jackson Pollack's birthday today. Coincidence? I say no.

I Just posted a thread called "Jackson Pollock" maybe the Mods could merg us? So we could have one thread about the intresting Art. I didn't see your thread, this board goes so fast after an episode! Yes, lots to look at in Widmores office!

I didn't notice the splatters so much as I noticed the polar bear, and the word "Namaste"

I Just posted a thread called "Jackson Pollock" maybe the Mods could merg us? So we could have one thread about the intresting Art. I didn't see your thread, this board goes so fast after an episode! Yes, lots to look at in Widmores office!

Yep, that's what I was going to point out-the Pollock in the shot...we've seen the namaste painting before,,.(<>..<>)

But Charles is part of the Hostiles, pre-DHARMA, no? The DI showed up in the '70s, and "Namaste" is their thing, not the Hostiles' thing.

So I'm not sure I get it.

Yep, that's what I was going to point out-the Pollock in the shot...we've seen the namaste painting before,,.(<>..<>)


If my mermory is good I think there were 2 paintings, one behind his secetary and one in his office. I'm a fan of Pollocks (like you), that's why I caught it right away.
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Did you see the big polar bear in the painting beyond his desk? Have we seen that one before? Is that the Pollock?

And it only happens to be Jackson Pollack's birthday today. Coincidence? I say no.


You Have to be kidding me!!!! Awesome catch!!!:eek2::biggrin:

We see the tapestry in Widmore's office again with the polar bear but this time we also see the word Namaste on it like Dharma used to say. Just thought i would point this out.

Wow, nice catch! I didn't notice that.


I'd like to see a screencap when someone can find one!

Pollock wasn't a figurative painter. He was an abstract expressionist. So, no, no polar bear paintings are his.

ScreenCaps are up:biggrin:

Painting behind Secretary

http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/4ea86c9785b0f8b3b6790e56883d3f6d

Painting in office:

http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1453-374.html

Can't find a screencap of the polar bear one yet.

And as Mise-en-Scene pionted out to me in another thread, yesterday was Jackson Pollock's Birthday
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Pollock


2 paintings in office http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/8c308b412ab14dd4c72f7aa81160d86f

Did you see the big polar bear in the painting beyond his desk? Have we seen that one before? Is that the Pollock?
It is most reminiscent of the hatch mural because they're both painted by Lost producer/director extraordinaire; Jack Bender.

Whether they will say somehow he bought the painting from Radzinsky before sending him to the hatch, or some other show related tie in to explain I don't know.

I thought the painting in the hallway of Widmore's penthouse looks like it's by the same artist as the painting Ben has of what looks to be his mother on the Island.

Did you see the big polar bear in the painting beyond his desk? Have we seen that one before? Is that the Pollock?

We saw the polar bear painting in Flashes Before Your Eyes when Desmond comes to Widmore to ask for Penny's hand in marriage. It was right above the liquor cabinet. Looks like it's been moved from stage right to stage left.

Actually Pollack died the year Locke was born (1956).

You Have to be kidding me!!!! Awesome catch!!!:eek2::biggrin:

Thanks. I don't know if this was planned, but it was definitely ironic.
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Actually Pollack died the year Locke was born (1956).

Oh! Cool! Wait. Didn't Locke say he was born in 1953? Gosh, I need to rewatch the episode today.

I'm not finding the painting in any screencaps, but I would point out that the old painting from Flashes Before Your Eyes also said Namaste. Question is, was Widmore still on the Island when the DI got there? If not, how would he know about this reference?

Not to mention that the painting was moved from one side of the office to the other. In FBYE it is to Widmore's left above the liquor cabinet. This time it's on his right.

Pollock wasn't a figurative painter. He was an abstract expressionist. So, no, no polar bear paintings are his.
:redface: I recognize older artists, but not always artists from the last century.
ScreenCaps are up:biggrin:

Painting in office:

http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage-1453-374.html

Can't find a screencap of the polar bear one yet.Yeah, the polar bear was to the right of the painting shown here.

We saw the polar bear painting in Flashes Before Your Eyes when Desmond comes to Widmore to ask for Penny's hand in marriage. It was right above the liquor cabinet. Looks like it's been moved from stage right to stage left.
Thank you, m-e-s! I though we'd seen it before.

The polar bear looks like it is pushing the button that was in Sawyers cage!:biggrin:

Namaste FBYE (http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?pid=85376&fullsize=1) reversed

Polar Bear - Jughead (http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/8c308b412ab14dd4c72f7aa81160d86f)

Namaste FBYE (http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?pid=85376&fullsize=1) reversed

Polar Bear - Jughead (http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/8c308b412ab14dd4c72f7aa81160d86f)


Very intresting. Do you think in FBYE the director did a Mirror image shot to make the scene look better? Or TPTB are ust having some fun with us?

Actually now that I think about it, it was reversed durring Des timetraveling, The painting was normal in Jughead when Des was not timetraveling.

Also, When Walt was possibly timetraveling, his speach was reversed.

anyway, cool easter egg:)

Far from the only one. I don't think TPTB are playing with us, they've been giving us clues all along.

It is most reminiscent of the hatch mural because they're both painted by Lost producer/director extraordinaire; Jack Bender. Whether they will say somehow he bought the painting from Radzinsky before sending him to the hatch, or some other show related tie in to explain I don't know.

I thought the painting in the hallway of Widmore's penthouse looks like it's by the same artist as the painting Ben has of what looks to be his mother on the Island.
If the painting with the polar bear shows up on eBay, I'm bidding on it.

Or if the producers make lithographs or posters of it, I'd buy one.

Who's with me?

They're playing with us. Blast the Darlton group!

http://forum.thefuselage.com/showthread.php?p=2073306#post2073306 I think their quite serious.

Namaste FBYE (http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?pid=85376&fullsize=1) reversed

Polar Bear - Jughead (http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/8c308b412ab14dd4c72f7aa81160d86f)
total mirror images! i actually looked really hard at that first shot to make sure there wasn't a mirror there! :laugh:

But Charles is part of the Hostiles, pre-DHARMA, no? The DI showed up in the '70s, and "Namaste" is their thing, not the Hostiles' thing.

So I'm not sure I get it.

Yes, so what's going on with Widmore? Did he get booted from the Others and come back as a DI guy? Is he an Other who went over to the DI for his own selfish reasons? Was (and is) he still working on behalf of the Others, as his knowledge of Hawking's whereabouts might imply? But there's the enmity with Ben...

What do people think?

ETA: Plus is it canon that Widmore Industries built a bunch of stuff for the DI? And why did his uniform say "Jones," anyway? Was his own uniform at the Others Laundry?

Thanks. I don't know if this was planned, but it was definitely ironic.
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Oh! Cool! Wait. Didn't Locke say he was born in 1953? Gosh, I need to rewatch the episode today.

Yeah, Locke said he was born May 30, 1956, (at that 1954 meeting), inviting Richard to wait and come to Tustin in two years to verify his birth and thus his story. Pollack died August 11, 1956.

I'm guessing that they chose the Pollacks to show us because the '49-'56 timeframe that the artist was most popular, should have been around the time that Widmore became wealthy and started collecting. I say this because I'm guessing Widmore took the opportunity to revolt and claim the island when Richard left the island to see Locke in Tustin in '56.

It seems out of character that Widmore is a fan of abstract expressionism. Wouldn't he be more likely to appreciate more controlled or intentional paintings? He just doesn't appear to be the type to admire leaving things up to chance as JP did when creating the pieces.

It seems out of character that Widmore is a fan of abstract expressionism. Wouldn't he be more likely to appreciate more controlled or intentional paintings? He just doesn't appear to be the type to admire leaving things up to chance as JP did when creating the pieces.

You would think that when looking at them, when actually Jackson Pollock didn't leave much up to chance in his art, it seems there was a method to his madness.
From the wiki:

Pollock observed Indian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States) sandpainting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandpainting) demonstrations in the 1940s. Other influences on his dripping technique include the Mexican muralists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mural) and also Surrealist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrealist) automatism. Pollock denied "the accident"; he usually had an idea of how he wanted a particular piece to appear. It was about the movement of his body, over which he had control, mixed with the viscous flow of paint, the force of gravity, and the way paint was absorbed into the canvas. The mix of the uncontrollable and the controllable. Flinging, dripping, pouring, spattering, he would energetically move around the canvas, almost as if in a dance, and would not stop until he saw what he wanted to see. Studies by Taylor, Micolich and Jonas have explored the nature of Pollock's technique and have determined that some of these works display the properties of mathematical fractals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractals);[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Pollock#cite_note-4) and that the works become more fractal-like chronologically through Pollock's career.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Pollock#cite_note-5) They even go on to speculate that on some level, Pollock may have been aware of the nature of chaotic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos) motion, and was attempting to form what he perceived as a perfect representation of mathematical chaos—more than ten years before Chaos Theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Theory) itself was proposed.

I don't think the Widmore and crew are wearing their own clothes. It's 1954, WWII has been over for several years, Miles said there are dead soldiers buried on the Island, I suspect the uniforms belonged to the dead soldiers.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Widmore_Corporation

Can anyone make out what is on the piece of paper on the polar bear picture from Jughead shows. Its affixed to the painting in the top right corner.

Can anyone make out what is on the piece of paper on the polar bear picture from Jughead shows. Its affixed to the painting in the top right corner.

I looked at the painting again and it looks like it's just a square of painted canvas. What do you see?

Are looking at the word Namaste? Notajackfan?