Maybe it's just a coincidence, but the same Trojan Horse statue from Ben's house in "One of Us" (season 3) can be seen in this episode (when Desmond is speaking to the librarian in Oxford).

http://longlostlist.net/photogallery/albums/userpics/normal_oou_027.jpg (One of us)

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/218/vlcsnap44619ct3.jpg (Jughead)


Any connections??

Hi baldlocke,

I think that's just a prop department thing. Don't think there's anything to it.
:)

...and its not the same horse. Ben's has a front leg lifted, the other doesn't. But they are both horse statues.

...and its not the same horse. Ben's has a front leg lifted, the other doesn't. But they are both horse statues.

We can't see if Jughead's horse has his front leg lifted. The perspective is different.

interesting.

Maybe a prop issue thing, but if not, the whole Trojan horse theme of hiding inside something and then getting to where you want to be secretly... does this ring a bell with any of the plotlines so far?

Richard probably just gave those out to everyone at the annual Others Christmas Party...

Richard probably just gave those out to everyone at the annual Others Christmas Party...

LOL :biggrin:

Who was hiding in Kate's horse? ;)

Good pick-up, baldlocke. I think you could be on to something. The Trojan Horse was used by the Achaeans to gain entrance into the city of Troy and strike the final blow in the Trojan War. Perhaps the most famous Achaean leader was Odysseus, who had much in common with Desmond, including a wife named Penelope, who was the object of his quest in The Oddyssey. Interestingly, the Trojan War, which separated Odysseus from Penelope, might have been avoided altogether had Odysseus not feigned lunacy to avoid honoring an oath. Sound familiar?...both Widmore and Desmond himself refer to him as a coward.

As for the Trojan Horse, it's appearance in Ben's study may be more than coincidental. I've been thinking for some time that Ben may be working against Richard and the Others. Although Richard clearly wants the O6 to return to the island with John's corpse, I think Ben will be tagging along as well, with a little surprise. My guess (purely speculation) is that John is not actually dead, and Ben has convinced him to return to the island alive. Talk about your Trojan Horse...imagine Richard's surprise if he were to discover that Locke-in-the-box wasn't a deadLocke after all, but a live Jeremy Bentham.

I like the Medusa spider theory about Locke that going around.

Wow. Sharp eyes. Kinda odd that the props dept would use such similar statues. Like it's not random. Curious.

What other props have popped up in wildly different places over the show's pushed on?

I remember there was an octagonal box that popped up everywhere in Seasons 1 & 2: Sayid's old friend's apartment, the Swan... there were at least five documented and photgraphed places. The Geiger Counter from The Swan, too.

What else has been tossed into scenes, accidentally or purposefully?

Nice catch OP. Juliet is the Greek in the first pic I think; this scene revealed her to be 'one of them' - working for Ben as a mole and not to be trusted with tarps and lostie good will.

The second has me thinking... is it Dan? that's who Des was inquiring about, but with the aim of finding his mother. Dammit! I now believe the woman on the desk's data true and Dan's history at Oxford to be a lie. lol!

Thank goodness there'll be another epi along soon to change my shifting mind again.

It's not a trojan horse.

WOW, what a good catch! even if it means nothing, i love how hard u are looking at things!
And of course I'd like it to mean something.... dont take everything at face value

What other props have popped up in wildly different places over the show's pushed on?

I remember there was an octagonal box that popped up everywhere in Seasons 1 & 2: Sayid's old friend's apartment, the Swan... there were at least five documented and photgraphed places. The Geiger Counter from The Swan, too.

What else has been tossed into scenes, accidentally or purposefully?
We saw a black toy horse of Kate's popped up twice in her backstories.

There was an old yellow tonka truck seen in the Polar bear cave and in young Sawyer's bedroom when his father shot himself.

The paints used in several places...the Swan, Charlie's apt, Tom/Claire's apt.

The book,Carrie....Juliet had it and it was lying on her sister's nightstand.

I think there have been lots of prop reps!

I think the connection has to do with Karen DeGroot's now famous quote".... observation is the key to true awareness..." If the characters themselves would notice these things, they would become aware of who they really are. (I'm not sure what that means, but it's the rhetoric we've been given).

I think these are examples of the background (if not the characters too) being mutable, rather than the horse being a clue about Kate or whatever. That the ojects and people around us are finite, the same yet different.

There are numerous ways in which these items can be arranged to create a "new" setting.