The man speaking French, on the zodiac, said "Brennan"...
as in Danielle's "Brennan took the keys"

We just need to change the thread title. Danielle, Montand, Brennan, Robert. They're aaaaall there. :) Oh and in utero Alex.

Yep, I guess it's safe to assume that the whole French science team we've been hearing about for years!!! Hope we get a lot of backstory on them!!!

Maybe we will find out how Montand lost his arm!

That was awesome. I only caught Montand's name, but figured they were all there. I hope Jin stays with them for a little while...

yay! its the frech connection!Danielle lives again....kinda

I thought I heard the names Brennan, Robert, and Montand mentioned.

So I wonder if now we might finally get confirmation of some connection between this Brennan and Kate's beau, Tom Brennan?

Just as an aside, if there is a tie-in to the French team (Tom's brother, perhaps?), the fact that she and Tom buried a time capsule containing a tape recording and a toy plane -- around the same time (within a year or so) of the French team crashing on the island -- was really was a nice touch by the writers.

I don't really remember that... refresh my memory?

Maybe we will find out how Montand lost his arm!

I am guessing that maybe he had a run in with Young Widmore as well. Widmore was going to cut off Juliets are "just to prove how serious he was."

I don't really remember that... refresh my memory?

The distress signal that Rousseau broadcasts from the radio tower, which the survivors first hear in the second episode (Pilot, Part II), does not say the same thing in each iteration. According to Lostpedia (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Distress_signal), the message says:

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Iteration 17294530 : "If anybody can hear this, they are dead. Please help us. I'll try to make it to the Black Rock. It [or he] killed them. It [or he] killed them all."


Iteration 17294531 : "It [or he] is outside. It [or he] is outside and Brennan took the keys. Please help us. They are dead. They are all dead. Help us. They are dead."


Iteration 17294532 : "It [or he] is outside. It [or he] is outside and Brennan took the keys. Please help us. They are dead. They are all dead. Help us. They are dead."


Iteration 17294533 : "They are all dead. Help us. They are dead. If anybody can hear this—"


Iteration 17294534 : "It [or he] is outside. Please help us. Please help us !"

Iteration 17294535 : "If anybody can hear this, I'll try to make it to the Black Rock. Please help us ! They are all dead. They are dead. It [or he] killed them. It [or he] killed them all. I'll try to make it to the Black Rock."
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Kate's childhood sweetheart is named Tom Brennan (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Tom_Brennan), shown in "Born to Run". In 1989, when they were kids, they bury a time capsule containing a baseball and baseball cap, a toy airplane and a cassette tape. When she returns to Iowa when her mother is dying, Tom is accidentally killed when she tries to "run" -- hence her later obsession with the toy plane, which she later breaks into a bank to get back (and ends up on the island in the Halliburton briefcase).

Although it has seemed a minor point, since not that much has been made of Tom Brennan other than in that one episode, the fact that he has the same last name as the person presumably on Rousseau's team who "took the keys" is intriguing.

Too much info? :biggrin:

The sickness will kill them quickly

The man speaking French, on the zodiac, said "Brennan"...
as in Danielle's "Brennan took the keys"


if you look carefully at the stuff hanging round Montand's neck as he questions Jin it looks very much like there are a couple of old keys there as well as something white...

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb269/andylekker/screen-capture.png

what do you reckon? - a better cap would be good

if they bought the keys with them that would be VERY interesting...

The sickness will kill them quickly
I have a gut feeling, based on nothing, that we're gonna see the fate of the Frenchies start to dramatically unfold in the next episode. They're all doomed, and it's very sad and tragic, because we know generally what's going to happen to them, and we know it is going to be impossible to avoid their dismal fate that awaits them on the Island.

if you look carefully at the stuff hanging round Montand's neck as he questions Jin it looks very much like there are a couple of old keys there as well as something white...

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb269/andylekker/screen-capture.png

what do you reckon? - a better cap would be good

if they bought the keys with them that would be VERY interesting...

Good catch, BL! Looks like at least one skeleton key.

Good catch, BL! Looks like at least one skeleton key.

cheers!

here is a better cap (thanks to sam g)
http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?pid=123036&fullsize=1

i wonder if they have been to the island before, or have been sent on a mission

seems odd that they get the sickness after only 2 months, but i guess it may have something to do with the dark territories

I a little confused. Can someone explain why they are on a raft in the middle of the ocean? Didn't their boat crash on the island?

i think their boat broke up in the storm and was washed up on the island
they must have abandoned ship and used their life-raft

if you look carefully at the stuff hanging round Montand's neck as he questions Jin it looks very much like there are a couple of old keys there as well as something white...

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb269/andylekker/screen-capture.png

what do you reckon? - a better cap would be good

if they bought the keys with them that would be VERY interesting...

I've taken a look at both the screen shots and must admit that to me, it looks like he's wearing a pedant of some sort--even when I enlarged the area. Even looking for "keys," I see none. Odd.

I am guessing that maybe he had a run in with Young Widmore as well. Widmore was going to cut off Juliets are "just to prove how serious he was."That was in 1954. Danielle crashed in 1988.

That was in 1954. Danielle crashed in 1988.
Well it should be said we don't know how long Widmore was on the island or when or under what circumstances he left.

I've taken a look at both the screen shots and must admit that to me, it looks like he's wearing a pedant of some sort--even when I enlarged the area. Even looking for "keys," I see none. Odd.

I can't see any keys either.

Maybe the sickness that the french science team contract is somehow also related to radiation (whether that be magnetic or something else) exposure in one of the old dharma stations, the swan being an obvious example. Desmond was down there for 3 years but was giving himself regular injections so didn't fall foul of any kind of major illness, time-dislocation based or otherwise until he stopped the shots & turned the fail-safe key- which caused the station implosion & desmond's first experience of his conscious mind jumping in time.

I've taken a look at both the screen shots and must admit that to me, it looks like he's wearing a pedant of some sort--even when I enlarged the area. Even looking for "keys," I see none. Odd.
I agree. It appears to me to be a seashell of some kind. Not to say that he probably has the keys that future Danielle tells Sayid about, but I too did not see any keys in those screencaps.... :undecide:

I'm pretty sure the sickness is the same as what happened to George Minkowski... The Frenchies entered the wrong way and were affected... or will try to leave, and be affected. Danielle was necessary to the island, for some reason. She has helped out a lot...

Also, they will be there for awhile, actually. If Danielle's word should be taken at all... She said they were there for a few weeks. It was, like, six weeks, iirc, before she got to the radio tower.

I agree. It appears to me to be a seashell of some kind. Not to say that he probably has the keys that future Danielle tells Sayid about, but I too did not see any keys in those screencaps.... :undecide:

Yep I see sea shells too. A couple of them.

So I wonder if now we might finally get confirmation of some connection between this Brennan and Kate's beau, Tom Brennan?

Just as an aside, if there is a tie-in to the French team (Tom's brother, perhaps?), the fact that she and Tom buried a time capsule containing a tape recording and a toy plane -- around the same time (within a year or so) of the French team crashing on the island -- was really was a nice touch by the writers.

Tom as a boy flew to Dallas with his father (from Iowa I presume), who left somewhere not mentioned, then sent Tom back home on a flight by himself. The place was a gift to a young boy by Dad for being brave. That was the last time he ever saw him so that's why the plane was important enough to him to preserve in the box.

Apparently Dad has been missing for years, and in this show, that strongly suggests he met a bad fate on the island. So, having the last name "Brennan", some people including me have been watching to see if he'd actually be the Brennan Danielle mentioned. It's not a bad idea since I can't think of two characters in this show sharing the same last names and not being related.

So if this Brennan in the science team has an American accent, I'd say he's Tom's lost Dad. I could'nt tell if he spoke or not.

I a little confused. Can someone explain why they are on a raft in the middle of the ocean? Didn't their boat crash on the island?

Danielle said their vessel crashed on the rocks damaging the hull beyond repair. I was expecting to see the ship, but well, how do you set up a film set with a sunken ship on the rocks without spending a fortune? so, they just picked it up from the raft. It's true to the story.

So if this Brennan in the science team has an American accent, I'd say he's Tom's lost Dad. I could'nt tell if he spoke or not.

Talk about six degrees of separation!

Danielle said their vessel crashed on the rocks damaging the hull beyond repair. I was expecting to see the ship, but well, how do you set up a film set with a sunken ship on the rocks without spending a fortune? so, they just picked it up from the raft. It's true to the story.
There is still a way to show the crashed ship and not break continuity. The team had to abandoned the ship in the storm and when exploring the island they come upon it slammed into some rocks. I thought the reason for introducing the team in the middle of the storm was more of a story decision than a monetary one, there are numerous was to create a believable shipwreck. I suppose the writers thought introducing the team in the middle of the storm was a better image.

Don't see keys but nice watch!

I've taken a look at both the screen shots and must admit that to me, it looks like he's wearing a pedant of some sort--even when I enlarged the area. Even looking for "keys," I see none. Odd.

ok, try this one
http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/cab80c27c323466d950144a9482dcf6e
click on the image to make it a bit bigger and turn up the brightness of your screen
the key (old fashioned and tarnished) is fairly clear behind and on the right of the cowry shell - it looks like there may be two of them.

any better?

ok, try this one
http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/cab80c27c323466d950144a9482dcf6e
click on the image to make it a bit bigger and turn up the brightness of your screen
the key (old fashioned and tarnished) is fairly clear behind and on the right of the cowry shell - it looks like there may be two of them.

any better?
I see a key behind the cowry shell, but it looks more like decorative jewelry than something that could serve an actual function. The keys Danielle referred to in her message could be something they haven't found or something that has yet to be seen.

ok, try this one
http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/cab80c27c323466d950144a9482dcf6e
click on the image to make it a bit bigger and turn up the brightness of your screen
the key (old fashioned and tarnished) is fairly clear behind and on the right of the cowry shell - it looks like there may be two of them.

any better?

Yes, thank you. I see one key clearly (behind the shell that woland mentioned), and maybe the bottom of another. Good eyes, Black!

Now, why would the key(s) be important?

if they are the keys that danielle mentioned - and as woland rightly pointed out they may not be,

1. they already had them when they arrived - so are they coming back with them or have they been given them to open something?
2. they look old - could they be something to do with the black rock?

i have speculated before that widmore may have been the 'sponsor' of their scientific research, so they may have come to the island for a reason - perhaps that 'mythical' deleted scene where she tells someone she was researching time will play out?

hopefully we may find out v.soon

All very interesting, Black. I'd have to guess that, since they are showing keys, that these are the keys to which Danielle refers.

I remember previous discussion of "keys" included the idea that these are not necessarily physical lock-opening keys, but they could be explanatory keys.

We may find out as soon as next week.

I just hope to Christ they can explain how Danielle didn't recognise Jin 16 years later with something better than "She's nuts".

I just hope to Christ they can explain how Danielle didn't recognise Jin 16 years later with something better than "She's nuts".

we dont know that she didnt recognize jin - just because she didnt say so.
she seems the sort to keep her distance and she doesnt say much.
i think we'd all agree that she must know a lot more about the island, dharma etc than she has told anyone...

I just hope to Christ they can explain how Danielle didn't recognise Jin 16 years later with something better than "She's nuts".
There are many explanations as to why Danielle didn't recognize Jin. She could have recognized him and not said anything. Danielle didn't give much information away about herself. Her caution kept her alive for so long. In 16 years she would have seen some very weird things on the island so seeing a man she met 16 years before isn't that unusual. And Jin and Danielle never shared any scenes together, barring a few crowd scenes. Jin never went on the jungle expeditions she went on and Danielle showed up at the beach camp a handful of times they never interacted. And they couldn't because of the language barrier, Jin only recent began understanding and speaking English. I'm more willing to accept that Danielle didn't recognize Jin, they never spent any time together. I would have more problems with Danielle recognizing one of the Losties in 2004 if it were Locke, Sawyer, Jack or Kate the French team had rescued.

we dont know that she didnt recognize jin - just because she didnt say so.
she seems the sort to keep her distance and she doesnt say much.
i think we'd all agree that she must know a lot more about the island, dharma etc than she has told anyone...

I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't the case.