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PapaThor
02-04-2009, 10:22 PM
I'm thinking that the producers put Claire's mom in the story as a decoy/red herring. Anyone think she'll show up again?

I'm thinking ... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. No.

Gatesy
02-04-2009, 10:25 PM
My initial reaction was that she was put into the storyline as a decoy, but this is Lost and who knows what TPTB could be planning for the future...or the past. lol.

LostLaura
02-04-2009, 10:26 PM
She very well might show up again, but it was certainly mostly for the red herring effect.

Melikon
02-04-2009, 10:27 PM
Still trying to sue Oceanic, three years later...strange.

PapaThor
02-04-2009, 10:32 PM
At least it settled the question about who is trying to get at Aaron.

Not her. She was clueless.

LockeLove
02-04-2009, 10:35 PM
How could she not know her daughter was pregnant? Wouldn't the airline have the information especially since it was very risky for her to fly. They had to have known that they had a pregnant woman on the flight. Yes, it could have very well have been Kate but I would think their passenger roster would indicate something!

darwatcher
02-04-2009, 10:38 PM
How could she not know her daughter was pregnant? Wouldn't the airline have the information especially since it was very risky for her to fly. They had to have known that they had a pregnant woman on the flight. Yes, it could have very well have been Kate but I would think their passenger roster would indicate something!


Claire's mom was in a coma when Claire left.

LockeLove
02-04-2009, 10:40 PM
Claire's mom was in a coma when Claire left.

Sorry I should have been clearer... I mean now that she is suing them how could that information not be known to her now?

THE5THTOE
02-04-2009, 10:43 PM
Still trying to sue Oceanic, three years later...strange.

Jack said she "had" sued oceanic, was in town picking up her settlement.

Quackers
02-04-2009, 10:44 PM
How could she not know her daughter was pregnant? Wouldn't the airline have the information especially since it was very risky for her to fly. They had to have known that they had a pregnant woman on the flight. Yes, it could have very well have been Kate but I would think their passenger roster would indicate something!



She knows Claire was pregnant.

She thinks Claire et Baby died in the crash - therefore never naming him "Aaron" - therefore she has no idea who Aaron is.

maxaholic
02-04-2009, 10:52 PM
i think that since it was ben's attorney that was giving her a settlement, then it was all done on purpose at the right time. kate sets up an appointment with the attorney, the attorney tells ben, ben sets up some phony settlement (maybe an extra amount since it was 3 years later), has claire's mom come to town. after the appointment, the attorney figures that she will try to follow him, takes her to the hotel where claire's mom is so that she thinks it is her behind all of it. the only thing is, ben never thought jack would be there and be her hero and go find out what's going on.

claire's mom was there because ben wanted her there to make kate more afraid so that she'll run to the island.

eyris
02-04-2009, 10:52 PM
Jack really screwed up. The potential of her figuring out what he was talking about is definitely there. But I get the sense that the writers have never put that much thought into her character for some reason? I could be wrong.

IIRC, Carole told Jack that her daughter was pregnant when she died in the crash, so she knows about the pregnancy. Shouldn't be hard for her to put 2+2.

afterthegoldrush
02-05-2009, 04:52 AM
I don't know. But I do know one thing. She looked a lot like Kim Basinger.

e-lls
02-05-2009, 04:59 AM
It is an odd "coincidence" that she shared her lawyer with Ben. It could be a larger part of the plot I suppose, but I think TPTB often leave ends of the story untied in order to keep the viewers questioning.

Dublin Dilettante
02-05-2009, 05:05 AM
I'm just glad Jack got the hell out of there before her Australian accent got any worse.

iowalost815
02-05-2009, 08:59 AM
Well, I think Claire's Mom would probably suspect now, if she didn't before. But it won't matter to the storyline as I suspect they are taking the kids with them.

D/

THE5THTOE
02-05-2009, 09:11 AM
i think that since it was ben's attorney that was giving her a settlement, then it was all done on purpose at the right time. kate sets up an appointment with the attorney, the attorney tells ben, ben sets up some phony settlement (maybe an extra amount since it was 3 years later), has claire's mom come to town. after the appointment, the attorney figures that she will try to follow him, takes her to the hotel where claire's mom is so that she thinks it is her behind all of it. the only thing is, ben never thought jack would be there and be her hero and go find out what's going on.

claire's mom was there because ben wanted her there to make kate more afraid so that she'll run to the island.

I mentioned in another thread that I thought Ben was behind it. My theory was a little simpler tho.:rolleyes: Just to get Widmore to lose money,(he owns Oceanic). I like yours though, adding an extra punch to the attorney showing up at her door.

What if----- it was Widmore, trying to draw out Ben or the 06, to follow them to the island. and NOW I gotta wait at least a week.:mad::biggrin:

Dissector
02-05-2009, 09:27 AM
It has never been established that Charles Widmore owns Oceanic.

THE5THTOE
02-05-2009, 09:44 AM
It has never been established that Charles Widmore owns Oceanic.

I thought it was the Widmore group that bought Oceanic when they went bankrupt. My bad.:)

We know he does have influence in the company though.

Madge
02-05-2009, 10:00 AM
I'm just glad Jack got the hell out of there before her Australian accent got any worse.

Ha! Yeah, my first thought seeing her was "They're giving her a bigger part? With that accent?"

(Disclaimer - No, I don't think I could do any better)

humaraday
02-05-2009, 11:43 AM
What really doesn't make sense is Claire's mom saying "Who's Aaron?" Really??? He's one of the O6 - the whole world knows who Aaron is. Her reaction wasn't right. She most likely doesn't know that Kate's Aaron is really Claire's Aaron (like the rest of the world), but I think she will know in time or already knows and is part of a larger plot now.

But not knowing who Aaron is when it is Jack Shepard saying he and Kate did what they thought was right? How could she not know who Aaron is in reference to Kate and Jack?

avandelay
02-05-2009, 11:48 AM
Jack really screwed up. The potential of her figuring out what he was talking about is definitely there.

It doesn't matter, because either the O6 are going back to the island tomorrow, or the whole world will end.

eyris
02-05-2009, 11:51 AM
Kate isn't supposed to bring Aaron back, though, and Ben is trying to persuade Kate to give him up.

Heroic Poser
02-05-2009, 11:58 AM
I just find it strange (and maybe it's because people were getting fed up with more Q's than A's) but, didn't Ben seem a little too willing to admit to the fraud?

"Oh, ya. That's my fault. I created that whole ruse. Sorry. Got any milk?"

beema
02-05-2009, 12:01 PM
But that "red herring," if it was one, was immediately tossed out because a minute later Jack found out Ms. Littleton didn't know anything about Aaron.

I thought it was kind of odd that Ms. Littleton needed to be in LA just to sue Oceanic though. They operate out of Sydney too after all.

Madge
02-05-2009, 12:10 PM
I think Ben set her up to be there for Kate's benefit. If she saw Ms Littleton, Kate would easily assume she was the mystery client.
I don't think Ben is trying to take Aaron away from Kate, just wanted her to think she had to run to keep him and hey, why not run back to the island?

Heroic Poser
02-05-2009, 12:12 PM
Or maybe it was Ben's plan to REMIND her that it's not her baby.
A harsh reality.

rikio78
02-05-2009, 12:22 PM
I didn't care for the ruse that Claire's mom was in LA with the same lawyer as Ben's and she was just there for a wrongful death settlement, this seemed like a poor way to try to keep people guessing that it wasn't Ben. I don't think we'll see her again since they only have what like 50 hours left to get back to the island, and Aaron needs to go with them since he is an O6. Loved the episode but loathed this stunt.

augustwest
02-05-2009, 12:27 PM
how do you suppose jack got out of there-
'' ummmmm... sorry to come to your hotel room here in the middle of nowhere, and out of the blue like this... and then to bring up aaron....ummm, never mind... well, good seeing you... safe trip home"

monsieurxander
02-05-2009, 02:28 PM
I'm sure she knew that Claire was pregnant, coma or no coma (her sister would have told her), and that's probably why she won the settlement. Oceanic made the unusual decision of letting an uber-pregnant woman on the plane.

She just thinks that the baby died with Claire, and isn't making the connection between Claire's unborn baby and Kate's supposed baby.

Margalit
02-05-2009, 06:42 PM
Is her Australian accent really that bad? I didn't notice. (Did notice that she had all the warts removed from her face, however. They're all there at the funeral, but all gone in this episode.)

I agree that she would have assumed Claire's baby died in utero, of course. But the poster (forgot who; sorry!) makes a great point that she ought not say "who's Aaron?" The 06 were a hugely followed news item by the general public. How much more closely followd would they have been by someone who lost a loved one on the flight! Completely unrealistic that she wouldn't have known who Aaron was. It would have been far more believable (and served the same purpose) if she had instead said something like "Aaron? Kate's baby? What does he have to do with me?" Just something to indicate that she was not the one seeking custody, without the unbelievability of her never having heard the name.

LostMyMarbles
02-05-2009, 06:49 PM
I don't think "Who's Aaron?" necessarily means she doesn't remember Aaron the miracle baby.

It could be more along the lines of "I don't follow where this is going. What Aaron (or Erin) are you referring to here?"

I'm middle-aged. I could see myself asking that question if I wasn't following the point of a conversation and wanted it clarified.


I agree that the line could have been better worded, though.

Pythagoras99
02-05-2009, 09:35 PM
Kate isn't supposed to bring Aaron back, though, and Ben is trying to persuade Kate to give him up.

If they're going back to the island, where Aaron's actual mother is, I don't see how Kate could be persuaded to give Aaron to someone else instead.

Puddin Tame
02-17-2009, 09:54 PM
the poster (forgot who; sorry!) makes a great point that she ought not say "who's Aaron?" The 06 were a hugely followed news item by the general public. How much more closely followd would they have been by someone who lost a loved one on the flight! Completely unrealistic that she wouldn't have known who Aaron was. It would have been far more believable (and served the same purpose) if she had instead said something like "Aaron? Kate's baby? What does he have to do with me?" Just something to indicate that she was not the one seeking custody, without the unbelievability of her never having heard the name.

My thoughts exactly. "Who's Aaron?"
>Knock!< >Knock!< McFly!
Uh...Aaron is one of the world famous Oceanic 6? The handful of people who survived the airplane cash your daughter was killed in?

How does such an apparent blunder make it to the final cut of a show whose every frame is scrutinized by obsessive fans?