ok, so we know that Daniel went back in time, and told Charlotte NOT to travel to the island or she would die, but she didn't listen, and died anyway. Did this prove Mrs. Hawkings theory that on matter what SOME people try to do, whatever happens happens, regardless of interference?

I think Charolette's memory of Dan had just happened, Like Des's dream, she had just rembered it, I think she even said something to that effect. Dan was pretty shocked by this statement, so I don't think he remembers warning her because he hasn't done it yet. And It sounds like his warning came too late, since she only just remembers it right before she dies. Hope that made sense.

So even after Charlotte told Dan, is he still going to warn her? Then when somebody comes along saying: "Stop that, you are scaring her!" he will suddenly remember it?

So even after Charlotte told Dan, is he still going to warn her? Then when somebody comes along saying: "Stop that, you are scaring her!" he will suddenly remember it?

Yep. Our Faraday will see lil Charlotte, say something like "Ok, I know this is crazy, but leave and never come back or you die!" because even though Faraday knows that, aside from Desmond, no one can change time...damnit, that's his woman! Of course he's still gonna try to save her even though, as a scientist, he knows it is impossible.

I doubt this was a Desmond type "new memory". It was probably a traumatic memory that Charlotte had repressed until she was near death. Seems pretty normal, remembering repressed, traumatic events near death.

Faraday will be that scary crazy old guy that scared Charlotte no matter what...which means our resident time-travel expert creates a paradox. Love's stronger than logic.

So even after Charlotte told Dan, is he still going to warn her? Then when somebody comes along saying: "Stop that, you are scaring her!" he will suddenly remember it?
Dan knows full well that he can't change the past... or the future. But love wins out over logic every time. We've already seen that he will be back in DHARMA days interacting with DHARMA folk. When he sees young Charlotte, his emotions will take over, and he will try to warn her, even though he logically knows it is pointless, that after she's grown she won't remember the warning until it's too late.

So even after Charlotte told Dan, is he still going to warn her? Then when somebody comes along saying: "Stop that, you are scaring her!" he will suddenly remember it?

I don't know, I'm still trying to wrap my head around this time loop thing:confused:. I think he will still go back and warn her, because it's already happend? It may not matter how many times he tries to go back and warn her, as Mrs. Hawkins said the universe has a way of course correcting, she was always going to die. Like when Des trying to stop Charlies death.

So even after Charlotte told Dan, is he still going to warn her? Then when somebody comes along saying: "Stop that, you are scaring her!" he will suddenly remember it?
How can he suddenly remember something he has just done?

Yes. Whatever actions that Daniel will take when he eventually jumps to the past, they do not prevent Charlotte from coming to the island and dying. But I'm hoping Desmond's intervention can somehow allow Dan and Charlotte a happy ending.

I think Charolette's memory of Dan had just happened, Like Des's dream, she had just rembered it, I think she even said something to that effect. Dan was pretty shocked by this statement, so I don't think he remembers warning her because he hasn't done it yet. And It sounds like his warning came too late, since she only just remembers it right before she dies. Hope that made sense.

You....you're wrong.

Dan knows full well that he can't change the past... or the future. But love wins out over logic every time....his emotions will take over, and he will try to warn her, even though he logically knows it is pointless.

I agree with you--I think Daniel is deliberately trying to change the past even if he believes he cannot do so. I thought this after seeing the Pierre Change/Marvin Candle video and also after he slipped (although I don't think it was a slip) and told Ellie that he was from the future. This new information from Charlotte (maybe) supports the same idea. It is just a hunch.

Yup he has failed to change history again.

Try as he might, Daniel will still suffer because of the relationships he gets himself involved in.

He messed up once before with the young woman from his university days, and now he's using that guilt to build a desperate love affair with a woman that he knows is going to die. Now that Charlotte is dead, who else will suffer as he tries to fix things? Will he fall in love with another woman that he expects to disappear from his life? Will he stop being a coward and concentrate on what can be done instead of what he wishes could be done?

Perhaps Desmond can teach him a few things about escaping cowardice. Perhaps it will be Desmond that will allow Daniel to get past his daddy issues and become the time traveling physicist warrior that will save everyone's bacon at the end.

instead of keeping here from coming back to the island stop her from leaving in the first place

Maybe he convinces her mother that she is going to die on the island.
He uses some logic or other evidence to convince her that he is from the future or can see the future.

Based on his warnings, they leave the island and she tries to convince her that the island never did exist. Her mother is protecting her based on his warning.

I dont think that Daniel necesarily went back in time. Maybe he actually lived sequentially back then. He clearly needs to consult his notebook to remember things he already knows. Maybe he figured out the island years ago and warned a younger Charlotte innocently. Since then all the jumping means that he has access to all his lives memory at any time but only haphazardly.Hence by the time he is watching tv he knows the future and past and cries because he knows the future death of Charlotte, but didnt know that she would return when he warned her originally

I think Charolette's memory of Dan had just happened, Like Des's dream, she had just rembered it, I think she even said something to that effect. Dan was pretty shocked by this statement, so I don't think he remembers warning her because he hasn't done it yet. And It sounds like his warning came too late, since she only just remembers it right before she dies. Hope that made sense.
No, it happened in her past, just like she remembered. The thing is, until now, she never had a reason to think it was Daniel. Even if it looked exactly like him, she didn't know time travel was possible, so the idea that it actually was him would be preposterous. Also, realizing that she was, in fact, about to die on the island would be a pretty strong trigger for a memory of being told that that would happen.

Daniel was resolved to try and change history from the moment he witnessed Charlotte's first nosebleed. He will likely fail since it seems Desmond can operate outside the rules.