View Full Version : The dammed pesky kids !
The Village Idiot 02-12-2009, 02:24 PM I think we`re missing something as regards the kids.
Why does everyone seem reluctant to take them back to the island ?
Ben seems adamant that Aaron shouldnt be going back to the island.
I think Charlottes warning was misinterpreted and she was referring to Jins kid and not Sun.
Are there any feasible reasons / theories as to why the kids shouldnt go back ?
BillToons 02-12-2009, 02:27 PM The kids are evil and will destroy the entire universe. Just wait until they get old enough to drive and you'll see what I mean. ;)
OhNoTheOthers 02-12-2009, 02:32 PM If they do bring all the kids--Aaron, Ji Yeon, and maybe even little Charlie #3, then they will need to start an island daycare...
Elf-lady 02-12-2009, 02:43 PM You know, I've been thinking a lot about the kids of the '06 (and others). Bear with me-- we have Aaron, Ji Yeon, Charlie, Juliette's nephew Julian, and Sawyer's kid Clementine. Not to mention Walt, though he is no longer a kid per se......There seems to be a larger reason for all these kids being popped out and/or referred to. I say the kids, as grown-ups, will find themselves searching for the Island, their parents, and whatever they've 'lost' by (apparently) not being able to grow up with their parents (the '06 and Sawyer, et al, will stay on the island to reconstitute the Dharma Initiative, Juliette will die). In Season 6, I think this will be addressed in flash-forwards, and maybe we'll even find that 'Adam and Eve' aren't Jack & Kate (too obvious), but Aaron and Ji Yeon or some other combo of the children of Lost.
MPmom 02-12-2009, 02:53 PM I never interpreted her warning to be about Sun, or Kate. I felt she was referring to the creepy Eloise Hawking. Charlotte was reliving scenes from her past just before she died, and its very possible that Hawking was a menacing force on the island when she was a child. If Ellie = Eloise, we already saw that she was a pretty tough little teen back in the 50's. Shes still scary as hell as an elderly woman!
Regarding your original question.....
Here's a refresher on the warnings Malkin gave Claire concerning Aaron:
MALKIN: It is crucial that you, yourself, raise this child.
This child parented by anyone else, anyone other than you -- danger surrounds this baby. . .
Your nature, your spirit, your goodness, must be an influence in the development of this child.
There is no happy life -- not for this child, not without you.
The baby needs your protection.
Apparently Claire has forgotten all this. It sounds like Aaron is only safe with her.
Now, if she died in the explosion at Otherville, as many believe, she may feel that Aaron is safer off island. If she is still alive, it seems she would want him back with her where he will be safe.
I must have missed the part where Ben said Aaron shouldn't go back. But that makes sense. Aaron was born there, and Ben doesn't want some special island-born baby taking over his position. After all, he has tried like hell to keep Locke from becoming leader, and I think he thinks he can get his position back. Ditto for Ji Yeon who was conceived there.
Ben no longer cares what the island wants. He is out for himself and his own desires.
abbybaby 02-12-2009, 02:57 PM If they do bring all the kids--Aaron, Ji Yeon, and maybe even little Charlie #3, then they will need to start an island daycare...
There's one at the Temple, Cindy runs it. :eek2:
Ferrel 02-12-2009, 02:59 PM I think it's misdirection. The her and the him is actually referring to Hawking and Widmore.
CherannD 02-12-2009, 03:06 PM I wrote a post under a thread about Charlotte's only purpose about the kid connection:
I keep getting stuck thinking about Charlotte being born on the island then leaving and being told not to come back or she would die. We have 2 other children in this story, Aaron conceived off island and born on and Ji Yeon conceived on island born off, ok try and follow me we know the Others were rather obsessed with the woman being able to have children. Juliet is brought to the island and says she can't fix it she believes it happens at conception but we know that can't be exactly right because of Sun having concieved Jin Yeon on the island. So there is another reason for the lack of babies being born on the island yes?
Was Charlotte to serve as another warning that Aaron can't go back? Didn't Claire give Kate the same warning? Ben seems to think Aaron is special too but no mention of Ji Yeon. Is it because he doesn't know about her? It seems to me peoples children have played a big part in Lost and children in general, just not in a stand out way. Widmore played a part in Alex being killed Ben says he is going to kill Penny. The Others took all the kids from the crash first. Desmond and Penny now have a child named Charile.... Lots of kids in the background that seem to have a bigger part in the over all story at least that is my thinking.d here are my thoughts:
elly_smiles 02-12-2009, 04:36 PM when ben sent juliette to collect info on pregnancies,... doesnt he or she mention kate AND sun?
Nevermore 02-12-2009, 04:41 PM Here's a refresher on the warnings Malkin gave Claire concerning Aaron:
But Malkin was a fraud.
Morgan 02-15-2009, 06:42 PM I think from just a practical sense, they can't have the kids come back to the island because they'll grow up to fast and not mesh with the time on the island. Therefore, the writers will contrive reasons to not include them.
MagicActor1987 02-15-2009, 09:44 PM But Malkin was a fraud.
But he was also really damned scared and determined to get Claire to raise her child. He may have been a fraud who had a "real moment."
NBC001 02-15-2009, 11:35 PM I think Charlottes warning was misinterpreted and she was referring to Jins kid and not Sun.
Charlotte could not have been referring to Ji Yeon. This incident occurred shortly after the O6 left probably even before they had gotten off of Penny's boat and Sun was still pregnant. So Charlotte could not have known that Sun had a girl.
too2strange 02-15-2009, 11:42 PM The kids are evil and will destroy the entire universe. Just wait until they get old enough to drive and you'll see what I mean. ;)
:rotflmao2: I'm assuming you are stating this from experience, or were you a bad driver as a teen?!
I think the children might be special, like Walt. Ben did not mention Walt going back to the Island, did he! Remember what happened when they tried to convert/talk to Walt?
Bicklefitch 02-16-2009, 12:47 AM Why does everyone seem reluctant to take them back to the island ?
Ben seems adamant that Aaron shouldnt be going back to the island.
I don't remember Ben saying this. I know he admitted to Kate that he was the one who sent the lawyers, but I've been assuming that was just to get her on the run and receptive to going back.
Are there any feasible reasons / theories as to why the kids shouldnt go back?Well, I know it was written in jest, but I'm actually on board with this theory...
The kids are evil and will destroy the entire universe. Just wait until they get old enough to drive and you'll see what I mean. ;)
In order to avoid paradox, the adults may need to go back because they have "work to do". From this standpoint, Aaron and Ji Yeon would simply be excess baggage (how much unfinished business could they have as an infant and a fetus?). Sun and Kate may be willing to leave the kids behind in order to spare them from the "bad things" that are happening on the island, but I'm thinking there may be others who are interested in keeping them off-island as well...
Both Aaron and Ji Yeon seem to have had intervention by the island during their fetal development (Claire felt Aaron move again after eating the sea urchin from the island, and Sun conceived Ji Yeon despite Jin's apparent sterility). We also saw, via Robert, that someone or something on the island seems capable of inhabiting a human body. This part may be a stretch, but perhaps the same power or being that controls Smokey has been trapped on the island, and knows that the only way to spread it's influence beyond the island's shore is by "infecting" special children, and then orchestrating their departure. I think Rousseau was right about the "sickness". Maybe getting a driver's license is actually the lesser of two evils.
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