No deep theories here. Just your guess, gut feeling or wishful thinking as to why the 06 need to go back.

My guess as to why the 06 need to go back to the Island is... and this is just guessing... is that the 06 are part of a blood line or family tree that the Island needs for it to survive. (Whatever that means.)

I have been wondering about this for a long time. I can see Jack and Aaron being in that bloodline. I think they werent suppose to leave because they also had to play a part in the island's history like the Lefties:
Dan helping the Others with the H bomb
Sawyer holding on to the rope
Jin saving Danielle's life (not to sure about this one)

Well PapaThor...I wouldn't have a clue :frown:... but I know allot of people who hit the off button and stopped watching in the UK because of it. :frown:

Allot of people think its totally ridiculous (the very fact) the Losties spent 3 seasons trying to escape the island only to be told they have to go back, maybe the show should have ended when they got rescued?? :undecide:

Well PapaThor...I wouldn't have a clue :frown:... but I know allot of people who hit the off button and stopped watching in the UK because of it. :frown:

Allot of people think its totally ridiculous (the very fact) the Losties spent 3 seasons trying to escape the island only to be told they have to go back, maybe the show should have ended when they got rescued?? :undecide:


well considering getting off the island was never the goal of the show. since the very start of the show there has been a constant storyline between jack vs Locke on if the island is special and if they are destined to be there. locke in season 1, locke/eko/rose in season 2, locke/others in season 3, have all been telling us that this island is special and that the losties were supposed to be there and they are NOT supposed to leave. them coming back culminates the storyline that started in season 1. is this island special, are they supposed to be their, is it their destiny, is it fate, are they suppposed to leave. if anyone actually thought the show was going to end with everyone leaving the island and going back to their old lifes, then they were watching the wrong show. since season 1 we have been lead to believe the losties are their for a reason, its their destiny and they should not be leaving the island.


there are many shows which have a major storyline such as this that is not the end point of the show. like BSG. the entire goal of the show was to get to earth. yet with 9 episodes left, they leave earth never to return. same with farscape. the entire goal for the main charecter was to find earth again, find his home, yet when he does he chooses not to return.

the show has never been just about a group of people trying to get home, off an island. its about so much more.

I personally would disagree with u Havok if the show wasn't about trying to get off the island then why did they spend most of season 1 building a raft or in season 3 Charlie sacrificing himself to supposedly get the Losties rescued? :confused:

(Cant even remember what happened in season 2 & 4 TBH) :frown:

Maybe this oceanic 6 stuff was just bolted onto the story to try and drag it out abit?? I have to admit its pretty boring & pointless, I couldn't blame anyone if they decided to give up. :shrug:

In regards to people watching the wrong show comment... maybe they where but they have corrected that mistake and switched off permanently LOL.

My chosen theory changed from day to day. A lot of people are going with the idea that Jack or Aaron are important to the island's history, like maybe they were there in the past?It seems likely. But...wouldnt it be possible if someone(Eloise et al) had visited the island in the future at some point and seen something which required the O-6's intervention? I expect to get beaten down for this, but just throwing it out there....

I personally would disagree with u Havok if the show wasn't about trying to get off the island then why did they spend most of season 1 building a raft or in season 3 Charlie sacrificing himself to supposedly get the Losties rescued? :confused:

(Cant even remember what happened in season 2 & 4 TBH) :frown:

Maybe this oceanic 6 stuff was just bolted onto the story to try and drag it out abit?? I have to admit its pretty boring & pointless, I couldn't blame anyone if they decided to give up. :shrug:

In regards to people watching the wrong show comment... maybe they where but they have corrected that mistake and switched off permanently LOL.


season 1 was about the raft because it was part of the major storyline of should they leave or not. charlie's storyline about sacrificing himself so everyone could leave only came about in the final 3 season 3 episodes. the storyline was always about fate and not being able to change the course of fate and desmond trying over and over again to save charlie's life.

your rigth people have corrected their mistake of watching a show that causes you to think some and instead choose to watch a show where a british guy who tries to be cool, a washed up pop singer and the new jenny craig spokesman tell people they can't sing in the rudest ways possible. so i for one am glad they are gone because watching a show that makes one dumber by just viewing it, well those are not the fans Lst or scripted tv need for that matter. lol

season 1 was about the raft because it was part of the major storyline of should they leave or not. charlie's storyline about sacrificing himself so everyone could leave only came about in the final 3 season 3 episodes. the storyline was always about fate and not being able to change the course of fate and desmond trying over and over again to save charlie's life.

The casual viewer would assume they built the raft because everyone on the Island (except Locke) wanted to leave... same with Charlie... he wouldn't have dived to the Looking Glass if he didn't think they where gonna be legitimately rescued. Unless he thought it was his fate to top himself for no reason whatsoever??? :shrug:

(Allot of people think this way and I cant really argue with them)

your rigth people have corrected their mistake of watching a show that causes you to think some and instead choose to watch a show where a british guy who tries to be cool, a washed up pop singer and the new jenny craig spokesman tell people they can't sing in the rudest ways possible. so i for one am glad they are gone because watching a show that makes one dumber by just viewing it, well those are not the fans Lst or scripted tv need for that matter. lol

I was talking about various people (I know) in the UK that used to be into Lost but stopped watching because of this “we have 2 go back” stuff...but in regard to Pop Idol in the US... If people want to watch it then let em, I've said it before I ain't got some Sci-Fi superiority complex. :biggrin:

(I have to admit tho. I'm fascinated why Lost fans generally think they are somehow superior to every other TV watcher... If people think watching Lost makes them intelligent then they have serious problems. :confused:)

The casual viewer would assume they built the raft because everyone on the Island (except Locke) wanted to leave... same with Charlie... he wouldn't have dived to the Looking Glass if he didn't think they where gonna be legitimately rescued. Unless he thought it was his fate to top himself for no reason whatsoever??? :shrug:

(Allot of people think this way and I cant really argue with them)



I was talking about various people (I know) in the UK that used to be into Lost but stopped watching because of this “we have 2 go back” stuff...but in regard to Pop Idol in the US... If people want to watch it then let em, I've said it before I ain't got some Sci-Fi superiority complex. :biggrin:

(I have to admit tho. I'm fascinated why Lost fans generally think they are somehow superior to every other TV watcher... If people think watching Lost makes them intelligent then they have serious problems. :confused:)


Your not giving the casual viewer any credit. i think they were more than capable of understanding that since season 1 this island is special and there has been a fight going on weather to leave the island or not.

At the time when they built the raft, everyone but Locke wanted to leave the island. that was the point. at that point in the story everyone wanted to leave this island and return to the real world. although now in season 4/5, its about them wanting to stay. they realize how special this island is and that they crashed here because of fate. that it was not an accident and they are not supposed to leave here. the storyline has come full circle. it started in season 1 and really hit its stride at man of sciene/ man of faith when locke and jack went to battle over leaving or staying. i think the casual viewer understood that since season 1 there has always been a struggle between fate/destiny. if people stopped tuning in because they are coming back to the island, then they were not watching Lost. They were watching a show they assumed was about one thing, but in reality, it was not about that.

also i think the causual viewer understood charlie/desmond's storyline was about charlie being fated to die and no matter what desmond did, charlie was going to die. like i said, this storyline progressed throughout 20 some episodes of season 3. only in the final 3 did charlie/desmond storyline also become about leaving the island. although even then it was more about charlie choosing how he was going to die, instead of just letting it happen. and i doubt anyone thought charlie was sacrificing himself for everyone to get off the island. he was doing it to get claire and aaron to saftey. it was his love for them that caused him to sacrifice himself. i think the casual viewer could see this.


i don't think i am superior to other because i watch Lost, i think scripted shows are superior to reality tv shows. most people watch reality tv shows to see normal people fail. that's why the first few episodes of AI are the highest rates. cause normal people are consistently failing and being told they suck. it makes people feel better to see other humans fail. i think reality tv is the worst kind of entertainment in the world. reality tv is all about making money. the networks can get these shows and not have to pay any money to hire actors, so they get to keep more profits. not to mention reality tv has no point to it. i think scripted tv shows are far superior to reality tv shows. just wait, soon enough, scripted tv will almost become extinct. reality tv is easy to make and almost always makes money since you only pay the winner and the producers.

so its not just Lost, its all scripted tv. as much as i despise heroes and bsg(right now) and Grey's Anatomy, i still think they are superior to any reality tv shows.

I'd much rather watch a show that keeps surprising me than a show with an ending as predictable as the one mentioned in a previous post. There would be a lot more pissed off people if LOST ended with everyone leaving the Island. I never guessed that LOST would take the turns that it has in these last couple of seasons but I am so glad they did! Do people really want to watch six seasons of Locke killing boars or Jack struggling to find fresh water?

Aaaaanyway, to get back to the original topic... I think the O6 need to get to the Island because they have important work to do...in the past. It seems that the 815ers are instrumental in crucial events in the Island's history and if they are not there to complete those events then..."God help us all."

@ havok

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but its useless to the people that have already thrown in the towel and left... I know people (in the UK & US) that dumped Lost because of the “need to go back” storyline and the Charlie (in their eyes) getting killed for nowt scenario. :frown:

(we can argue about it til the cows come home) :)

Regarding TV
The point is Havok people have a choice, if they want to watch reality TV & gameshows then that's upto them... it ain't my fault they find it more entertaining then your scripted shows is it?? :biggrin:

(but then again it would appear scripted shows like CSI and the like still do canny its only Sci-Fi that's dying unfortunately) :frown:

In the UK we have loads of good quality scripted TV almost every night so I don't have to worry about Reality TV taking over the airwaves... that's why we have a TV licence to make sure our networks don't become like yours in America :p.

But we better go back to the topic :)

@ havok

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but its useless to the people that have already thrown in the towel and left... I know people (in the UK & US) that dumped Lost because of the “need to go back” storyline and the Charlie (in their eyes) getting killed for nowt scenario. :frown:

(we can argue about it til the cows come home) :)

Regarding TV
The point is Havok people have a choice, if they want to watch reality TV & gameshows then that's upto them... it ain't my fault they find it more entertaining then your scripted shows is it?? :biggrin:

(but then again it would appear scripted shows like CSI and the like still do canny its only Sci-Fi that's dying unfortunately) :frown:

In the UK we have loads of good quality scripted TV almost every night so I don't have to worry about Reality TV taking over the airwaves... that's why we have a TV licence to make sure our networks don't become like yours in America :p.

But we better go back to the topic :)


i have no doubt people dropped the show because of charlie dying. when a major favorite charecter dies, it does turn a lot of people off from a tv show. its just to bad for dropping the show because they will never know if it ends great or not. still, its there loss.

but csi, law and order all all shows ratings have decreased. still its not like lost is doing bad anyways. it gets over 11 million people watching it live/same day. add in the 7 day dvr numbers and the show is doing great. not increible like it was doing in season 2, but still great. also on top of it, i don't equate high ratings with good quaklity shows. burn notice is a great show, praised by critics and fans alike, is one of the most successful cable shows on tv right now, but its ratings would be considered a comploete failure if it was on one of the big 4 netwroks. same with the sopranoes when it was on tv.

although i will agree scifi in general is a for a very small audience because for some reason when people think of scifi they think of nerds and people don't want to be associated with that.

i wish we had those rules over here because more and more the tv channels are becoming about reality tv and not about scripted drama.

I feel like

A) The majority of the people on these boards are in it for the long haul...
B) The "average" viewer probably tuned out around the time they had spent 12 episodes underground in a bunker pushing a button every 108 minutes =P
C) There is probably some, but not much, overlap between the viewers of "Lost" and "American Idol"

and finally

D) They need to come back so they can Flashback to the 70's and bring Gerald and Karen DeGroot Back to the Future so they can stop Widmore from turning the Island into a second rate "Jurassic Park" =)

I think I just used 4 different movie titles in that sentence. Go me!

And PS: I really can't believe that after all the smoke monster/Dharma Initiative/This Place is Special/Button-pushing/Future Vision stuff, that the O6 getting off the island was what made people stop watching. I think time travel confuses/frustrates people, and most people are quick to give up on something they can't comprehend. Might sound egotistical, but that's my opinion.

I also think that if they give up at THIS point, they are seriously missing out. It's just starting to get really juicy!! =D