We remember the original LOST triangle? Jack, Kate, and Sawyer. Well now Juliet joins in creating a love square. Last as I recall Jack and Juliet had a thing on the island. And evreyone knows that Sawyer and Kate "did it" more than once. What is Sawyer going to do?

i vote kate and jack love each other, and juliet loves sawyer, but sawyer loves both women. i think that pretty soon we will see that kate has chosen jack. it will become apparent to sawyer on the verge of becoming rogue again. he will either stay with juliet or turn away from her.

Sawyer/Juliet, Jack/Kate.

Jack and Kate deserve each other. That's all I'm gonna say, lol

Kate is soooo over Jack. Now that she's got that out of her system.... I'm seeing her feelings for Sawyer come back into play... somewhere down the road. Sorry, Jules, but Skate rules!

I think Sawyer is really invested in his life and position in Dharma, not to mention his relationship with Juliet. I think he has yearnings towards Kate but he knows which side his bread is buttered on and he'll stick with Juliet. I think also that we'll find out just how deeply and much Kate meant her earlier line of "I've always been with you, Jack" and it will turn out that in the past that is the Losties present, she'll choose Jack, in fact I think she did a while ago but it won't be shown to the viewers until later. I think Kate is playing her cards very close to her vest and she'll be the last to show her hand.

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Voted for Jack and Kate & Sawyer and Juliet. ;)

I vote for all four living together in a happy poly relationship. But because this is primetime TV, I think Sawyer and Kate will end up together.

Kate is soooo over Jack. Now that she's got that out of her system.... I'm seeing her feelings for Sawyer come back into play... somewhere down the road. Sorry, Jules, but Skate rules!

Yes she is. She will pine for Sawyer, and you don't do that if Jack's your love, especially coming from a more decisive Kate.

We also have Carlton talking about the new triangle of Sawyer/Kate/Juliet.

There are two people in particular that know Kate and Sawyer are in love, and that is Jack and Juliet.

I voted for Skate and Jacket.
But I was really tempted by Sayid's solution to end the love quadrangle. :biglaugh:

I think also that we'll find out just how deeply and much Kate meant her earlier line of "I've always been with you, Jack" and it will turn out that in the past that is the Losties present, she'll choose Jack, in fact I think she did a while ago but it won't be shown to the viewers until later.

Gotta disagree with that. I viewed Kate's comment to be non-romantic in nature, mainly because we know that it's not true, in romantic context. She wasn't "always with" Jack on the Island...she was with Sawyer for much of that time, even going so far as to make love to him, multiple times. However, she was always on Jack's side on the Island, always working towards rescue and keeping the other Losties safe. She was his 2nd In Command for most of their time on the Island, and she supported him. And when she made that declaration to him, it was in answer to him asking her "I'm gonna turn to you first, are you with me?" Yes, Kate has always had his back, she's always been with him on executive Lostie decisions.

However, I believe her line there was also meant to be dramatic irony. She told him "I've always been with you" three years ago...but then we're shown, three years later, that Jack isn't "with" Kate (or vice versa). Romantically or otherwise. In fact, they're pretty effectively estranged. And then Jack betrays Kate's trust by taking her to Ben at the marina.

Current Kate doesn't view Jack in the same way as 3-years-ago Kate does. She no longer view him as the perfect "good guy", the infallible hero. And now she has to get to know this new, improved Sawyer, who may not entirely be the "bad boy" she remembers, either.

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i haven't read that spoiler information. where did you get that?

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i haven't read that spoiler information. where did you get that?
There is a new interview w/Darlton in USAToday (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2009-03-18-lost_N.htm):

For the near future 'Lost' will settle in the past

By Gary Levin, USA TODAY
Is Lost turning into That '70s Show?
For now, at least, ABC's sci-fi fantasy ended its time travel in 1977 — and if you haven't watched this week's episode yet, stop reading right here.

The reunion in Wednesday's episode "sets the template for what the show's going to be in the next phase of storytelling," says executive producer Carlton Cuse. Kate, Jack and Hurley have rejoined Sawyer and Jin, disguised as new Dharma initiates; Sayid, deemed an island "hostile," is imprisoned. "We're kind of done with the rapid skipping through time for a while," Cuse says.

In the seven remaining episodes (including a two-hour, game-changing finale May 13), he says the show asks, "What do they do now, and what are the consequences of that?"

Starting next week, the show returns to its original format, each episode built around a single character with the back story in flashbacks.

First up is Sayid (Naveen Andrews), in a bit of role reversal. Says producer Damon Lindelof, "He was the one who first captured Ben, and now he's behind bars as a Dharma prisoner," with a young Ben offering him a sandwich. Future episodes fill in histories of Daniel Faraday and Miles Straum.

The show "becomes a lot more character-centric," Lindelof says. "For those people who were more confused or scratching their heads" at the time-traveling, "it's sort of normalized."

A major focus is the new love triangle of Kate, Sawyer and Juliet. Juliet is living with Sawyer, mysteriously known as LaFleur, Dharma's tan-jumpsuited security chief, in the '70s. "Juliet's aware that Kate's return will cause problems," Cuse says. Yet Jack, who vied with Sawyer for Kate and was engaged to her off the island — still carries a torch.

The recalibration of Lost will temper the show's most confounding season yet, a relief to ABC executives.

"We long had this idea to do time-travel storytelling," Cuse says. "But we were afraid that once we started implementing it, we would become a more overtly genre show and that we would lose viewers." (They did: Lost is down 18% this season and faced a big test Wednesday in the season's first matchup against American Idol). "We kind of expected some people to be turned off."

But Lindelof, conceding viewers were frustrated, likens Lost to coursework: "College gets harder as you go on, and you're now taking Advanced Lost." For those who follow the drama for its rich character entanglements, "all that really matters is that (Sawyer) likes Juliet, Juliet likes him and now Kate is back. But the real hardcore fans want mythology."

Producers promise more answers in coming episodes: How was Sayid captured to return to the island? How did Hurley learn about the Ajera flight that brought him there? And how will Sun, Ben and pilot Frank Lapidus reunite with their castmates?

It's starting to look like Jack and Kate will be that functional team without romance. The reason I say this is because we saw them try and fail at romance, in my opinion because Kate is in love with Sawyer. Now back on the island we actually had Jack ask Kate what she thought about something for once and I got a definite vibe they will be a team without the romance now.

Sawyer and Juliet have the teamwork and a romance, but that was before the O3 came back, and in particular Kate. Sawyer and Juliet have been living inside a protective bubble where their romance never had to be tested, and where up until now Kate didn't exist.

I believe Sawyer and Kate are the romance, there the ones given the long romantic journey by the writer's.

However, I believe her line there was also meant to be dramatic irony. She told him "I've always been with you" three years ago...but then we're shown, three years later, that Jack isn't "with" Kate (or vice versa). Romantically or otherwise. In fact, they're pretty effectively estranged. And then Jack betrays Kate's trust by taking her to Ben at the marina.


Totally agree, what's more, I don't think Kate has Jack's back anymore. Jack has his destiny to find and Kate is on her own mission, most likely to locate Claire.

I think romance will be downplayed the rest of the season, but there is no doubt about the longing looks Kate and Sawyer were exchanging. That is going to simmer beneath the surface until it gets to the point where it boils over. You can't write chemistry but you sure as hell can film it and put it on screen -- it was there last night.

The new triangle is Kate/Sawyer/Juliet. That leaves Jack as odd man out and I see no 'love square' at all. Voting Kate/Sawyer and Jack/Juliet makes no sense to me. Juliet is committed to Sawyer and Jack is committed to finding his fate and his daddy.

Jack has been in the middle of the triangle, Kate has been in the middle. Sawyer is in the middle now and Jack is a workman.

You forgot one other possibility; Hurley finds the time wheel and throws the whole shebang back to the stone age.

They all get eaten by HurleyBirds except Vincent.

Kate and Jack have been there and done that and it didn't work because Sawyer came in between them even 30 years and an infinite amount of miles away. It's going to be Kate and Sawyer.

Kate and Jack have been there and done that and it didn't work because Sawyer came in between them even 30 years and an infinite amount of miles away. It's going to be Kate and Sawyer.

I don't agree with this. Sawyer didn't come between Jack and Kate. The island and their mistrust and guilt issues came between them. They will work on them now, I'm sure.

Jack and Kate - Juliet and James FTW.

voted "Sayid goes rouge and kills evryone"

that color fits him and I would hate if the show turned into more of a lovespat than it was before

jack and kate being done.....it's just wishful thinking.

I don't agree with this. Sawyer didn't come between Jack and Kate. The island and their mistrust and guilt issues came between them. They will work on them now, I'm sure.

Jack and Kate - Juliet and James FTW.
Yes he did and one of the show runners confirmed it:


Damon: And most importantly we know that Kate and Jack's future relationship in fact that he proposes to her, she accepts his proposal, all comes apart because she is doing something for Sawyer and lying to Jack about it. And this scene, this is the last time Kate and Sawyer see each other before she leaves the island, so whatever it is he whispers to her obviously is what sort of catalyzes and ultimately destroys her relationship with Jack. As a result of that relationship being destroyed Jack starts popping pills and seeing his father and all these things, so this scene, Sawyer whispering to Kate actually is sort of a major critical plot.
You may not believe it, but I have to go with what Damon Lindelof said, since he also wrote the episode he is talking about along with fellow show runner Carlton Cuse.

maybe he came between them THEN, but she jumped right back into jack''s bed before boarding that flight, and so far, sawyer hasn't come between them now. when it happens, i promise, i'll believe it.

maybe he came between them THEN, but she jumped right back into jack''s bed before boarding that flight, and so far, sawyer hasn't come between them now. when it happens, i promise, i'll believe it.

She slept with Jack but she hasn't had the time of day for him since.

As much as I believe Kate is Sawyer's soul mate, Sawyer and Juliet have a committed, stable, loving relationship. Juliet stayed; Kate left. Kate surely changed his life for the better. He will never forget her or stop loving her but you do eventually learn to move on (and he has). Kate made the wrong choice by leaving Sawyer. She shall have to live with the regret.

It's hard to let go of the passion between Sawyer and Kate but Kate really hasn't treated Sawyer very well and he really does deserve better. As a diehard Skater, I'm pleasantly surprised how much I like the pairing of Sawyer and Juilet. They are both so happy. Plus, if he goes back to Kate, how is that fair to Juliet?

So, I do hope the writers will not disappoint us and let Sawyer be happy and live to the end of the series. Let Sawyer alone and stay happy with Juliet. The emotional tug-of-war is too much anymore!

Isn't it beautiful that the most unusual pairings occur on LOST? It just doesn't matter on the island; it's magnificient. A fertility specialist with a con man who dropped out of the ninth grade--a renowned spinal surgeon with a convicted felon--a fisherman's son with a wealthy woman whose father is invested with crime--Desmond (I really don't know what he does) with a wealthy woman whose father also seems to have nefarious dealings. Couldn't the world take a lesson from LOST?

You're forgetting the love *circle* of Kate, Juliet, and BrothaJefe316.

As much as I believe Kate is Sawyer's soul mate, Sawyer and Juliet have a committed, stable, loving relationship. Juliet stayed; Kate left. Kate surely changed his life for the better. He will never forget her or stop loving her but you do eventually learn to move on (and he has). Kate made the wrong choice by leaving Sawyer. She shall have to live with the regret.

It's hard to let go of the passion between Sawyer and Kate but Kate really hasn't treated Sawyer very well and he really does deserve better. As a diehard Skater, I'm pleasantly surprised how much I like the pairing of Sawyer and Juilet. They are both so happy. Plus, if he goes back to Kate, how is that fair to Juliet?



Facts are Sawyer was going to leave the island also, 'Let's get off this rock.' Kate did not leave Sawyer, he left her when he jumped to save her/them. As far as the way Kate treated Sawyer, well they are both guilty, not just Kate. Sawyer deserves the woman he wants to name dumb stars with, Kate and Sawyer were not separated by choice necessarily, Sawyer played hero in a dire situation. Kate and Sawyer were together and appeared quite happy.


maybe he came between them THEN, but she jumped right back into jack''s bed before boarding that flight, and so far, sawyer hasn't come between them now. when it happens, i promise, i'll believe it.


Kate had her first one night stand. She did something in her depression that she clearly regretted the next morning.

Facts are Sawyer was going to leave the island also, 'Let's get off this rock.' Kate did not leave Sawyer, he left her when he jumped to save her/them. As far as the way Kate treated Sawyer, well they are both guilty, not just Kate. Sawyer deserves the woman he wants to name dumb stars with, Kate and Sawyer were not separated by choice necessarily, Sawyer played hero in a dire situation. Kate and Sawyer were together and appeared quite happy.
Well said. I see so many comments about how nasty Kate was to Sawyer...and while that's true at times, Sawyer can dish it as good as he can take it. When he told Kate that he didn't want her to come back to the beach with him...she was clearly hurt. She was also hurt when he whooped a little too enthusiastically because she told him she wasn't pregnant. These two are both very aggressive personalities, so when they argue, it's gonna be loud and fierce.

Kate had her first one night stand. She did something in her depression that she clearly regretted the next morning.
Poor Kate. I wonder if that's ever going to be addressed - or whether she'll apologize to Jack and set the record straight? I mean, moreso than she already has with the "doesn't make us together" line that appeared to go right over his head. :rolleyes:

Voted for Jack and Kate & Sawyer and Juliet. ;)

Im hopeing for Skate to return!