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telemelia
12-04-2004, 04:43 AM
I have been on this angle since the stones were found on Adam and Eve. White versus Black. *Gray has been the color of those who have gotten involved in the struggle without falling on a side. Green is the color of those who are just looking to survive. Who have I noticed so far?
Sayid was wearing a white shirt, up until Solitary, then switched to black. He seemed to be wearing the same one in RBA.
Jack has been green, but pretty reliably wears gray now.
Hurley wears green.
Charlie wears gray.
Claire wears black. Possibly for her baby, I suspect her to switch to white after birth
Kate, white then green.
Boone wears gray.
Sawyer with green seems to fit the survivor caste fairly well.
Michael has been wearing red? Doesn't really fit.
Locke wears brown, a color not among the choices. However, he wore white for several episodes...
Ethan, notably, wears gray in both appearances.

Not really a theory so much as an observation. Anyone else noticing these things?

MadisonFire
12-05-2004, 08:54 AM
I absolutely LOVE this theory and will pay more attention from now on and in watching past episodes! Funny, Charlie was wearing Gray and Black during his roughest times. And Dom Monaghan has said that it is unclear as to whether Charlie will be all good or not. Perhaps (Forgive the stretch, here) but his shirt, in the beginning, was as messed up as he was.

Interesting and worth thinking about, THANKS! ;)

Abney
12-05-2004, 10:41 AM
I don't know if it would even be something that is done on purpose, but it does seem a little too comprehensive to be a coincidence, doesn't it?

that1spunkygirl
12-06-2004, 02:00 AM
i always thought charlie wore his grey and black shirt, that looked like an old fashioned prison uniform, because he was a prisoner of his drug addiction. once he kicked the habit, he stopped wearing it no?

telemelia
12-06-2004, 02:45 AM
I like the prison shirt idea with Charlie. I also don't think we've seen him with his hood up since The Moth. Perhaps another way costume is contributing to the symbolism. I think the colors and the particular clothes Charlie has been wearing really foretell what Dom said about Charlie not always being the good guy...

kaidysoft
12-06-2004, 04:06 AM
In the Confidence Man, Sawyer was wearing a BRIGHT BLUE shirt when he was chopping wood and then during all the torture...until he is shirtless when he wakes up...then when he is attempting to burn the letter, it's gray ( i had to look at close ups of the screen caps for this eppy, and man, do I get overwhelmed with Josh's good looks :blush: sorry to gush!)


kaidy

desertislandgirl
12-06-2004, 03:15 PM
I love this theory! What if...

White = good
Black = bad
Grey = they've done both, or are somehow conflicted right now
Green/Red/shirtless/etc = they're somehow "not playing" right now - like Kate staying out of everything on the beach - kind of like survival mode, but I really think they're all in survival mode - it's just what they are willing to do to survive.

that1spunkygirl
12-06-2004, 03:51 PM
okay just throwing something in here, might be crazy.

Someone mentioned that during Sawyer's story he was wearing bright blue. In the episode where Jack talks to Rose about her husband, who she thinks is still alive, she's also wearing bright blue. Maybe when people are somewhat delusional, they're blue?

Hobbs
12-06-2004, 04:28 PM
I love the color theories, and I had noticed the black and white before, but not the greens or greys, or blues! I love how there is so much to watch for in this show, it's so multi-layered! :)

I'll definatly be watching for colors people are wearing in upcoming shows!

telemelia
12-06-2004, 06:43 PM
Some of my friends who watch the show have pointed out that certain characters are always wearing something new. I put to you that these people (Sawyer, mainly) have different roles they play each episode, so they change clothes.
I'm working on placing blue as a caste, but can't really think clearly until I compile a list of who wears it and when.
Red, however... Michael is the only person who wears red. I think it may give us a clue to his past. Perhaps there was some crime he committed, and that's why Walt's mom never mentioned him. His other outfit fits with the idea. It's a denim shirt w/o sleeves. Sorta makes me think of prison. The red could symbolize blood, perhaps an act of violence that he was imprisoned for. That would be a good reason why he's never seen Walt before.
I will mention, however, at the risk of destroying my theory about red, that Rose was wearing red. The blue was the airline blanket that Jack puts around her.
I think that there is teeth to this costume color thing in general. Fury or Javi at one point mentioned costume color as a possible marker. While it won't solve all the mysteries for me, I'm going to at least use it to keep score...

that1spunkygirl
12-06-2004, 06:59 PM
hmmm maybe still the blue means something in that jack covered her red by putting her in blue. lol oh geez so much to think about!

my theory on michael is that he might've murdered walt's mother and kidnapped him. and evenif he didn't murder her, he may have had some mental issues, or some violence issues that caused her to run. if you remember, walt said that they moved every couple years. austrailia is awfully far to go. he didn't mention how his mother died, nothing like she was sick and died, you know? i think either his mom was running from michael,or she kidnapped walt. either way, the fact that michael said he'd been in construction for 9 years, but now he's an artist, which is a "long story" makes me think jail, or mental instituton, where both places, art is used as therapy.

rayne
12-07-2004, 01:21 AM
the more I dig, the more I am forced to dig...

there is a serious thing going on with color, here. I'm doing my darndest to assemble color progressions for all the main characters, but I've already picked up on some weird stuff.* I don't think that black & white are as cut and dry as good/evil.* I think that we need to pay serious attention to blue and red.* *somehow, I've been picking up on red being some sort of assertion of faith (Rose's faith that her husband lives, Shannon's faith that they'll be rescued).* Blue seems to somehow be acceptance, or mourning, that sort of thing (Jack is wearing blue when he goes to the morgue, and Rose is wearing red until Jack "forces" her to wear blue by adding the blanket).* there seems to be a smattering of purple, as well (blue+red).* I wonder if that is symbolizing some sort of transitional period (though it seems to be prevalent when the person gets screwed for trying to do the right thing)

I've started to make a list.* anyone want to help?

another* "coincidence"--* we all saw Charlie wearing his hoodie when he was going through withdrawl.
did anyone else notice that Jack is wearing a hoodie when his Mum sends him to Australia to find his Dad?

anyway, I can post what I've got for occurences. if there's an interest, I'll do so tomorrow.

cheers!
rayne

that1spunkygirl
12-07-2004, 01:37 AM
i would definitely be interested in seeing that!

telemelia
12-07-2004, 03:30 AM
I haven't yet had the time to compile a list yet, but I just watched Solitary again, and can at least give that list...
If everyone takes an episode, we should get this up pretty quick. Remember that most shows have two days, sometimes with costume changes.
Boone- Light Gray w/ black symbol on it
Charlie- Light Gray
Claire- N/A
Danielle- Black
Hurley- Green
Jack- Light Gray
JIn- N/A
Kate- Green
Locke- Military Brown/Green
Michael- Red
Sawyer- Dark Gray
Sayid- Black
Shannon- Bikini (hawt), then a blue dress at the golf game
Sun- Light Purple
Ethan- Gray shirt, same as RBA
Walt - White with blue stripes
Lance- White with green stripes

Rayne, love the theory on blue. Trying to fit Shannon's blue dress and walt's blue stripes into it. If we can get a full list per episode up, then we can find more similarities.