Team Jacob to the rescue! I think Jacob was referring to Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Jin and Sun. We didn't see Jacob select Miles or Juliet, but you never know. He hand picked his protectors...literally.

What do you think Jacob meant by "They're coming". Did he mean it as "they're coming you should get out of here" or "they're coming to save me." I think it is the latter.

But did they fail? He was just murdered.

Or was he? Can he die?

Or did they reset time, and then he wouldn't be dead??

So Jacob picked them because he knew from 54' and 77' that these people would be around and could save him/the Island after "the Incident.?" That means these Losties have to wind up back on the Island in present time to overthrow "evil" Locke or "God help us all?"

I think that even if Jacob is dead, he can still be vindicated. I think Jacob was out to prove that regular people can come to the island and live peacefully. His enemy thought otherwise, and for some reason wanted Jacob to stop bringing people to the island. Jacob has faith that Jack and his crew will be the ones to bring peace and human happiness to the island.

And/Or....

Maybe the bomb DOES change things, 815 never crashes, and so the bad dude doesn't get the opportunity to kill Jacob. Jacob may then be sure to visit the Losties at key points in their lives and impart some sort of power or change in their lives, which prevents them from ever ending up on the flight to begin with. The Losties changed the past once, with the bomb, and Jacob changed the past with his special influence.

Man we need to learn more about the nature of Jacob!!! What can he do? What does he know?

Yes, he was talking about the Losties! Can't wait for S6!

Did Jacob select Sayid too?

Jacob didn't do anything to stop Ben.

Maybe it was a clone/smoky-imposter/whatever, and not really Jacob. Two can play at that game.

Jacob didn't do anything to stop Ben.

Yeah I think the they're coming is referring to the losties.

What we do know:

-Jacob touched all of 06 who flashed. Jack when he gave him the apollo bar. Kate when he told her to never steal again. Hurley in the Taxi. And Sayid right after Nadia is run over. Jacob also touched Locke, giving him new life.
-Jacob did not do anything to prevent his fate, he more or less sealed it. He knew that possessed Locke was coming after him (immediately brought up the loophole) and provoked Ben by asking, "What about you?". At that point, it seemed that Jacob was acting like how Ben would act with Locke. He then whispers, "They're coming".

At this point, I think the most plausible hypothesis is that Jacob knew this was coming and that it would be in his advantage to make it happen. He has always known that the 815ers have been on the island, and hoped for some series of events to come to be so that he can die (which is why he brings the Black Rock, and maybe other vessels to keep the loop going?). With his information of the 815ers (knowing that they both existed in 77 and 2004), he goes to visit them to give them "new life" (like he gives Locke) or maybe some sort of protection for when the time comes (like..say...a giant H bomb going off?).

So when Jacob says, "They're coming", he's referring to his last move in the game. His checkmate. For some reason, Jacob had to die to let his plan come into fruition.

Jacob has faith that Jack and his crew will be the ones to bring peace and human happiness to the island.

The moment I read this I thought of Rose and Bernard out in the jungle living and loving happily ever after...Maybe THEY'VE already proven Jacob right?
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Did Jacob select Sayid too?

He either SAVED him from being hit by the car or CONDEMNED his wife to dying by preventing Sayid from crossing the street with her...

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It never ocurred to me that Jacob's final statement referred to the Lostaways. I"ll have to think about that. I immediately thought of Ilanna and the rest of her crew who'd just arrived outside the Foot. Possesssed-Locke looked up with a startled expression like he was ready to leap to his feet and run out to face a new challenge right then on the spot. I guess we'll have to wait until next year (GAH!!!!!) to find out.:46:

So I'm assuming that the people that Jacob was talking about were Jack and company. Are they going to be his last ace in a hole against this Locke/smoke monster? I guess we'll found out next season on why he went to all the flight 815 people and how relevant they are to defeating Locke. One thing I didn't understand was if Jacob is a agent of light and good why did he kill Nadia. I think that was a little cruel.

Probably because Sayid would not have wanted to return to the island if he could stay with Nadia.

I think that if "they're coming" refers to the Losties (the obvious guess), I will be disappointed. I hope it's the mothership instead.

It bugs me that, if he is talking about the 815ers appearing in 2007, they will be appearing at this point in time rather than any other. Who determines the distance they travel in time? How does Jacob even know this? I don't understand this. If he is able to know this kind of information, wouldn't he also know to be out for a strole that night, instead of sitting around in his statue foot? Which suggests he wants to die, but he seems sad about it. I don't understand it at all.

Team Jacob to the rescue! I think Jacob was referring to Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Jin and Sun. We didn't see Jacob select Miles or Juliet, but you never know. He hand picked his protectors...literally.
He also visited Locke, and he was responsible for "killing" him. I use the term killing loosely because death on this show is not always the end!

I think he meant that Richard, Elena and the gang were coming, so "Locke" better watch his ***.

I just posted a theory that he will become the white smoke monster and soon will take another human form from one of the losties that are gonna pop up in 2007.

Who do you think the final battle will involve?

Locke (Esau) Vs Jack (Jacob)

I think he meant that Richard, Elena and the gang were coming, so "Locke" better watch his ***.

I think this would be to obvious for Lost. Why would he warn them that the people who just "killed" him were in danger themselves?

He also visited Locke, and he was responsible for "killing" him.

How so? Two things concerning (the real) Locke's death:

1. It was Evil Locke who told himself that he had to die.
2. Ben actually ended up killing Locke, but not because anyone told him to. Ben was painfully out of the loop concerning the big picture, and was only acting on his own selfish power struggle (with Locke) when he killed Locke. Ben was jockeying with Locke just like he had with Widmore.

I think Jacob is talking about the losties that are in 1977.

I think this would be to obvious for Lost. Why would he warn them that the people who just "killed" him were in danger themselves?

I don't think he was warning them to help them, I think he was saying "The gig is up, they know about you, and they're coming for you"

I think the initial assumption would be Jacob was talking about Illana's team, but it might be more far-reaching than that, which could mean the Losties that he "touched" in the outside world and brought to the Island. We'll see how the timeline looks next season.

I think Jacob is talking about the losties that are in 1977.

My assumption is that "they're coming" meant something much, much more interesting.

I think there are greater powers than Flagg and Jacob (Ben said Jacob was simply "in charge" of the island)...and they are coming to correct something down by one or both of them. Unlocke seemed shaken by this knowledge. It was said three separate times that everyone answers to someone within the past three episodes. I think they are telling us that Jacob and Flaggs creators/superiors/same kind are on their way.

So I'm assuming that the people that Jacob was talking about were Jack and company. Are they going to be his last ace in a hole against this Locke/smoke monster? I guess we'll found out next season on why he went to all the flight 815 people and how relevant they are to defeating Locke. One thing I didn't understand was if Jacob is a agent of light and good why did he kill Nadia. I think that was a little cruel.

I didn't even recognize this possibility the first time around. Good point, though. But I saw it as Jacob knew the car was coming to mow them both down, and he chose to save Sayid only. Not that he intentionally killed Nadia, but just that he chose to let her die. If that makes sense. I guess it's not that big of a difference!

One thing I didn't understand was if Jacob is a agent of light and good why did he kill Nadia. I think that was a little cruel.

I don't think we know who is light/good and dark/evil, from what we've seen in the finale. Not enough info for me to make that jump, faux-Locke could just as easily be the good guy here, we don't have enough details on his motivation to kill Jacob.

That being said, I was under the impression that Jacob prevented Sayid from being killed along with Nadia, not that he caused her death.

Others are coming --> means people from past after explosion will comes , like JACK Kate Sawyer and anothers folfks.

One Locke (the real )is dead ..but i think he will reborn for some reason cause ..The falso Locke , Ben , Richard will regroup the old the famous THE OTHERS to be commanding the island ..

In mean time, Kate Jack and people from 70s will bring the 815 spirit back to the island joining the fight against the killer of Jacob .

Maybe Jack father could help this issue too ..i don´t know why ..

Maybe Locke (the real) could be real reborn for some effect ..dunno ..

the fact is ! Jacob touched the people from past and they are coming to present time to take control of the island and maybe for end of the season detroying the island and all coming safety to La.or beeing at island happy forever !!

That is the best answer I've heard so far about who "they" are (the people Jacob references before he dies). It'd make sense that the people he touched, people from his list, will be bumped back to the present day to help his effort... or whatever is going on.

I too think Jacob was referring to Jack, Kate, Sawyer, etc. I hope they somehow manage to save Jacob. I don't want him to be dead! I want answers!

I thought perhaps Jacob put a little bit of his life force into everyone he touched. That way, if they come together in the temple, perhaps they can revive him.

If he is able to know this kind of information, wouldn't he also know to be out for a strole that night, instead of sitting around in his statue foot? Which suggests he wants to die, but he seems sad about it. I don't understand it at all.

I believe he is only sad about Ben (in this scene) and Ben's role in all of this; he's sad about all of the pain in general. But in order for whatever he has in mind to work, he must die. So, he regrets having to dish out more pain to Ben, but in the same vein he knows that's what he must do to get whatever he has planned in motion.

[quote=avandelay;2182672]I think that even if Jacob is dead, he can still be vindicated. I think Jacob was out to prove that regular people can come to the island and live peacefully. His enemy thought otherwise, and for some reason wanted Jacob to stop bringing people to the island. Jacob has faith that Jack and his crew will be the ones to bring peace and human happiness to the island.


thank you for putting my thoughts into words!

Seems he was bringing them to 2007 to stop not locke. He must have been aware of or controlling the time jumps. He must have realized what was happening and figured if the loophole can work against him it can also work for him.

So Jacob picked them because he knew from 54' and 77' that these people would be around and could save him/the Island after "the Incident.?" That means these Losties have to wind up back on the Island in present time to overthrow "evil" Locke or "God help us all?"

Agreed.

I thought perhaps Jacob put a little bit of his life force into everyone he touched. That way, if they come together in the temple, perhaps they can revive him.

Cool idea. Or if not revive him, then carry on on his behalf.

I think that even if Jacob is dead, he can still be vindicated. I think Jacob was out to prove that regular people can come to the island and live peacefully. His enemy thought otherwise, and for some reason wanted Jacob to stop bringing people to the island. Jacob has faith that Jack and his crew will be the ones to bring peace and human happiness to the island.
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I agree with this as well.

The moment I read this I thought of Rose and Bernard out in the jungle living and loving happily ever after...Maybe THEY'VE already proven Jacob right?
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I think Rose and Bernard are a start, and the philosophy they express to Sawyer, Kate and Juliet would go over well with Jacob!

Where do you all think Charlie may fit into this? Jacob went to Hurley and gave him a guitar, most likely Charlie's for the same reason that Locke "brought" Christian's shoes back. I guess something real of the dead + dead body on the island = image that Esau/Jacob may be able to use. If Jacob dies, can he now come back using Charlie's image? Will that be instrumental in then killing Esau? Can only one be physical at a time?

No conclusive evidence just MO. I think (if the bomb went off) right before it did Jack and company were flashed to 2007. The person who I think will be the end game for El Black Shirt is Hurley. Not sure how but Hurley so far is unscathed unlike the other 815'ers. Yea Hurley ran over Tom and maybe killed off some other with the van but for the most part Hurley is the one who Jacob wanted to return the most asking him with "your not crazy and your not cursed."

My assumption is that "they're coming" meant something much, much more interesting.

I think there are greater powers than Flagg and Jacob (Ben said Jacob was simply "in charge" of the island)...and they are coming to correct something down by one or both of them. Unlocke seemed shaken by this knowledge. It was said three separate times that everyone answers to someone within the past three episodes. I think they are telling us that Jacob and Flaggs creators/superiors/same kind are on their way.

I like this theory but find it unlikely. A bit too deus ex machina for how the show seems to go...

Where do you all think Charlie may fit into this? Jacob went to Hurley and gave him a guitar, most likely Charlie's for the same reason that Locke "brought" Christian's shoes back. I guess something real of the dead + dead body on the island = image that Esau/Jacob may be able to use. If Jacob dies, can he now come back using Charlie's image? Will that be instrumental in then killing Esau? Can only one be physical at a time?

I think we havent seen the last of Charlie. I think he might appear next year, and not just as a cameo.

I think we havent seen the last of Charlie. I think he might appear next year, and not just as a cameo.

I'd love the return of Charlie!