I've bee reading around about how Jacob has pretty much affected everyone positively except for Sayid. In that he caused Nadia's death. But really all he did was slow Sayid down from being on the same path that Nadia was on. Sure, he didn't save Nadia but he didn't kill her.

That's how I saw it as well. And her death ultimately put Sayid on the path to coming back to the island

wow... i think you're right. I was thinking he did kill nadia, but probably just saving sayid.

If the course correction thing is right though wouldnt Sayid be subject to the same rules as Charlie? Maybe the same rules dont apply to Jacob making slight nudges here and their in the timeline. He and his counterpart are clearly all kinds of special.

I always thought that he was saving Sayid, not killing Nadia. And, yeah, maybe he could have stopped it, but we've all seen what happens when you try to keep someone alive past their expiry date. Course correction. When your time's up, your time is up.

Hey, that's a good point! I assume he was being hateful to Sayid for some reason, but that didn't fit in with the kindness he seemed to show the other Losties. I'm with you: he was saving Sayid.

I concur. Always saw it this way as well.

I've bee reading around about how Jacob has pretty much affected everyone positively except for Sayid. In that he caused Nadia's death. But really all he did was slow Sayid down from being on the same path that Nadia was on. Sure, he didn't save Nadia but he didn't kill her.

Perhaps he saved him because he needed him to become a hitman. If he dies a lot of people live, so by stopping him he gave him a pretty bad life to fulfill his purpose.

If he hadn't stopped Nadia they'd have just walked straight across the road - she'd stopped in the middle to gesture at Sayid.

Jacob didn't look at all bothered by her getting mowed down either. It all looked a bit conveniently setup to have her run down and give Sayid the impetous to return to the island.

Maybe he just didn't look bothered because he knew it was going to happen. He obviously has knowledge of the future. He wasn't concerned when Locke fell out the window either. He was just reading a book waiting for it.

Jacob so far is shown not interfering in the exercise of each person's free will; but placing himself into the context of their lives, to 'touch' them, nudge them towards something, but in a direction they may choose or not choose to take. When he asked Sayid a question, Sayid chose to stop, Nadia chose to walk forward into the path of the assassin's car. That scenario could have played out several different ways had either Sayid or Nadia chosen to act a little differently. Jacob chose to intervene only in Kate's life, when he offered payment for the shoplifted lunchbox, and the storeclerk chose to accept the money and drop the matter.

I'd posted this in another thread similar to this one: Jacob's face was full of pain for the whole scene. He didn't want Nadia to die, but he knew it had to happen.

Jacob so far is shown not interfering in the exercise of each person's free will; but placing himself into the context of their lives, to 'touch' them, nudge them towards something, but in a direction they may choose or not choose to take. When he asked Sayid a question, Sayid chose to stop, Nadia chose to walk forward into the path of the assassin's car. That scenario could have played out several different ways had either Sayid or Nadia chosen to act a little differently. Jacob chose to intervene only in Kate's life, when he offered payment for the shoplifted lunchbox, and the storeclerk chose to accept the money and drop the matter.


Raises the interesting question about Jacobs counterpart. If in fact he is posing as Locke he is literally telling people what to do as the leader. I wonder if he found a loophole or is simply breaking the rules.

i think Nadia was "meant" to die, and Jacob couldn't do anything to stop it (although some might think different) ... on the other hand, it wasn't Sayid time to die ...

Jacob seemed to nudge Kate and James toward the path they went on later in life, didn't he? Letting kate off the hook for stealing; giving James a pen so he could finish his letter; stalling Sayid and watching Nadia get mowed down...

OTOH, he saved Locke, was able to talk Hurley into going back... it's too complex and mysterious right now for me to decide!

Then you have the first scene, with Jacob arguing for progress and the other dude clearly against it... seemed at that point that Jacob had faith in humanity, whereas his counterpart had absolutely none.

I think it would be a fantastic twist if the other dude turned out to be good, and Jacob evil, considering how much more sympathetic Jacob seemed than him. Confused!