We didn't get to see much of him this season.

But what annoys me a bit (and btw I LOVED this season finale to make that clear):

- They haven't really resolved the whole story about what happened to Desmond after he turned the fail-safe.

- Why was he suddenly able to see the future respectively other people's death? And what about that weird time-travel thing of his mind.
And why it miraculously stopped just b/c he found his 'constant' :confused:

I was surprised that we didn't see Desmond at all in this finale. We'll get answers next season

yeah. i certainly hope so

We didn't get to see much of him this season.

But what annoys me a bit (and btw I LOVED this season finale to make that clear):

- They haven't really resolved the whole story about what happened to Desmond after he turned the fail-safe.

- Why was he suddenly able to see the future respectively other people's death? And what about that weird time-travel thing of his mind.
And why it miraculously stopped just b/c he found his 'constant' :confused:

Desmond jumping back and forth stopped after the constant because he found somebody in his past that he still has in the future. That's why Penny's call was so important to the whole process because if Penny forgot about him Des would have been screwed.

Desmond jumping back and forth stopped after the constant because he found somebody in his past that he still has in the future. That's why Penny's call was so important to the whole process because if Penny forgot about him Des would have been screwed.
ok. i can accept that. but what about his ability to look into the future. why did that happen?

I'm not entirely convinced that we'll actually see Desmond again. I would be pretty pleased if they laid his story to rest, and I think they've maybe already done that with him having that happy ending with Penny at the end of "The Variable".

But remember, Mrs. Hawking said "The island isn't done with you yet, Desmond."

I'd just as soon see him stay happy with Penny and Charlie, far away from the island. Sayid didn't keep his happy ending--Desmond should keep his. But I don't think he will, really.

Well, we have to find out what happened to Desmond at the hospital and whether Charlie was safe left alone with the nurse and Mrs. Hawking. They can't end it here!

But remember, Mrs. Hawking said "The island isn't done with you yet, Desmond."
exactly! that also.

Desmond jumping back and forth stopped after the constant because he found somebody in his past that he still has in the future. That's why Penny's call was so important to the whole process because if Penny forgot about him Des would have been screwed.


This is the thing with TT on Lost....we make it out to be very much more difficult than we realize.

Des needed a "constant", someone who existed in all of his times that he was in, in order to keep his mind focused. The reason Minkoski dropped dead was that his mind was scrambled to the point of short circuting.

Same with Chalotte, ect. A constant isn't needed..so much as controlled focus of you mind.

What are we? At a base level, we are nothing more than matter thats been aranged in way that allows for electrial currents to be processed through our brain to percieve a world where linear time exists.

If you could "control" yourself on a molecular level...well...then you are basically energy, and energy could exist in any "time" you wanted. And since enegery itself cannot be destroyed, well, theortically, on some level, neither can you.

In a very "dharma" sense, we are nothing until we are enlightened, and once elightened, we are forever.

And thats the thing with Des. He hasn't found some sort of Nirvana...he had it blasted into him by turning the key...and he doesn't even know he has it. His abilty to project his conciousness through time and space isn't sometihng he can control, but given his ability, it happens to him when the circumstances are correct.

Now...one would figure that the same thing has now happened to our Losties. Basically, they have been exposed to the same circumstances that Des has. Will they now pop up in a different place/time/consiousness?

Maybe. The Losties can't be dead, as the season next year will more than likely depend on them. In 1977 they might be dead....but in another time, maybe they will fully realize the future they have by having a more complete consiousness.

when the serach function is turned back on, I'll post a link to a "Desmond Died" theory I had after FBYE. Basically is is that Des would have actually been killed by the imposion/explosion of the hatch. He wakes up naked in the jungle though.

Is that the SAME des that we saw turn the key? My opinion is no, and frankly the more and more this shows goes on...the more and more I wanna stick to that theory.

I do wonder if he'll be a Season 6 Black Rock crew member since he's always saying "Aye". hahahahahahaha

Here's the thing I don't get about Desmond's mind traveling in time. He turns the key, his mind is the only thing that leaves... no wait... so do his clothes. Why?

Everyone else who TT the things they touched stayed with them. They made a huge point of this with Sawyer's rope. But not Des. He time travels (only in his mind) quite naked. I don't get this. Don't tell me the implosion sucked his clothes off because they did not take Locke, Eko or Charlie's clothes.

People should prepare themselves for the very real possability that Desmond is not coming back. The writers actually found a way to write a character off without killing the character off.

As far as Hawking's "the island isn't done with you," she also originally said that pushing the button was the only great thing he'll ever do. She also more recently said she has no idea whats going to happen anymore.

I think they planned to have more Desmond in season 5 with him being "special" (the variable?), but for whatever reason, they dropped the plot lines. ***Mod edited***

That would be a truly disappointing finish to his story, them just living happily ever after. No, he needs to go back to the island. Pretty please!

Ehhh... if this is the end of Desmond's story, that's trash. There is so much to cover, as with pretty much every character.

I'm unsure if Desmond has more story or not. But, despite it not fully explaining things, I believe the moment at the end of "The Constant" served as the show's verification that all things time travel about Desmond were done.

Aye, Desmond's absence from the finale was very troublesome--he's too good a character to be tossed on the Lost, discarded stories and characters junk heap.

Of course, this is coming from someone still holding out hope that Walt will factor into the show's endgame.

Of course, this is coming from someone still holding out hope that Walt will factor into the show's endgame.
absolutely. walt was allways presented as being oh-so special. they haven't really told his story

I can understand them taking Walt out of the equation due to the actor aging faster than the pace of the show. I'm sure he'll be back in season 6.

And don't forget the whole "Desmond is unique and miraculously special." In fact, the whole needing to find Faraday's mother was a completely pointless plotline as she was already helping the O6. Seems like pretty sloppy writing if this was all they had planned for him.

I agree! Very weird. Desmond was given this special vision, and then he essentially did nothing in his trip. All it did was get Des/Penny to LA so Ben could have his encounter.

I now think that the whole purpose of the character of Desmond was in order for TPTB to introduce the whole 'time travel' scenario to us.

This was achieved with season 2 and the episode FBYE, but due to the popularity of the character, TPTB did their best to integrate Desmond into the story for as long as they could.

Now that we are going into season 6 'aka: the end game', I think the focus will be brought back to the 'main players' (Jack, Sawyer, Kate, Hurley, etc), and the other 'players' will just be cast aside, Desmond included, as I can't see any reason for him being a part of this 'end game'.

ok. i can accept that. but what about his ability to look into the future. why did that happen?

I think the energy is connected to jacob. It glowed green when it was off its axis. Christian certainly stood his distance from it. I think Desmond gained a little of what Jacob is all about when he detonated the failsafe. Jacob seems to exist outside of our realm all knowing and special. Desmond becomes uniquely special and its probably from just a small dose of Jacob Juice. Similar to Tom Hanks in green mile.

Plus, we've never really learned why Desmond was in prison and dishonorably discharged.

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I'm sure they intended for him to have a greater role in the coming seasons, i once thought Despenny was Adam and Eve, but i don't see that happening anymore.

Plus, we've never really learned why Desmond was in prison and dishonorably discharged.

for real

Desmond's venture to Eloise Hawking served a couple of purposes.

1. He delivered Daniel's message, which gave the audience a bit of a chill by Eloise's uncaring response. In doing so, Jack, et al, are informed that Eloise is Daniel's mother, so they will know who he is talking about on the day he eventually dies.

2. He (and the audience) were told that the island isn't done with Desmond yet, foreshadowing future island action.

3. He made Penny's whereabouts known to Ben, and the audience got confirmation of Ben's weakness - he cannot bring himself to make children motherless - and he got a good beating, which we all enjoyed.

4. He got shot - this gave Eloise a chance to introduce herself to Penny at the hospital and to make us all worry when Charlie was left alone with a strange nurse.

5. Since Eloise was concerned about Desmond, we were also informed that her foreknowledge ends there. She is finally in uncharted territory.

6. Charles was there probably to get a fleeting glance at his grandchild (or kidnap him, make your choice). This gave us the opportunity to learn that Charles and Ellie are Daniel's parents.

just another casualty of the show's ever declining quality in writing.

at this point they just are concerned about wrapping it up in time.

a lot of seemingly important plot points are going to be completely tossed out and unaddressed at the show's close, and this is just one of them I think.

Plus, we've never really learned why Desmond was in prison and dishonorably discharged.


That mystery is the equivalent of Jack's tattoos. No one wants to waste time on that and it sure as hell doesn't have anything to do with the grand game of the show. Desmond's story is resolved... it is over, no one wants to waste time on a character who as already received closure. It'd be bad writing if they try to shoehorn him back into the show.

Desmond's story is resolved... it is over, no one wants to waste time on a character who as already received closure. It'd be bad writing if they try to shoehorn him back into the show.Says who?

Sure, it could be over at this point. It could have been over when he disappeared after the initial episodes of Season 2. Was it "bad writing" bringing him back then?

He could easily find his way back into the story. Why else have Eloise say the island isn't done with him, if not foreshadowing?

That mystery is the equivalent of Jack's tattoos. No one wants to waste time on that and it sure as hell doesn't have anything to do with the grand game of the show. Desmond's story is resolved... it is over, no one wants to waste time on a character who as already received closure. It'd be bad writing if they try to shoehorn him back into the show.

I'll happily waste time with that character. I find this closure you're talking about boring and unsatisfying. The island isn't done with him, I say let the shoehorning begin.

Seems people just want answers no matter what they do. There is only 17 episodes left sit back and enjoy.

Desmond was in prison because of his excursion into the outside world when he was time jumping in 1996, at least that's my best guess. He probably went AWOL and was arrested when he returned to base.

I don't think Des's story is over. I mean, they have to explain his mind traveling.

I know this happened 2 years ago but dangit I wanna know why Desmond told Charlie it was so important for him to die. The ones who left the island came back anyway. And now Des's is the only one off the island living his happy little life.

I feel like Desmond sacrificed Charlie just so he could be with penny. I want them to prove me wrong!!!!! :mad:

That mystery is the equivalent of Jack's tattoos. No one wants to waste time on that and it sure as hell doesn't have anything to do with the grand game of the show. Desmond's story is resolved... it is over, no one wants to waste time on a character who as already received closure. It'd be bad writing if they try to shoehorn him back into the show.

Not sure where this is coming from. It would be awful writing for them to drop this, and there's no way in the world they will. Why Desmond was in prison, and what happened between him and Penny then remains one of the only major remaining missing flashbacks we still need to see; and we also need to see what it is the island still needs Desmond for.

Seems people just want answers no matter what they do. There is only 17 episodes left sit back and enjoy.

Desmond was in prison because of his excursion into the outside world when he was time jumping in 1996, at least that's my best guess. He probably went AWOL and was arrested when he returned to base.

He told Penny on the phone that he had a two-day leave. So I don't think he was AWOL. Penny wrote in her letter to him, "I know you have the weight of the world on your shoulders because of what happened." The need to regain his honor is what drove him to enter the sailing race. This is a major part of the story, and it's one that they've allotted to season 6.

Des' vision is still relevant. Charlie dying started a chian of events that will see through until the final season.

However, Eloise saying the island isn't done with Des wasn't really appropriate. After all, Faraday's journal has no information after 2004, so she has no way of knowing whether Desmond has more relevance to the island.

I would be upset if they left the Desmond storyline where it is. I firmly believe that Desmond is the Variable- or at least, that's what the writers wanted.
I understand that the actor is having some personal issues at the moment, which may, very unfortunately, lead to this storyline being dropped, but I for one would be severely disappointed.
There are a lot of things to wrap up. I would like to know why Desmond was having visions of Charlie dying in the first place.

I'll happily waste time with that character. I find this closure you're talking about boring and unsatisfying. The island isn't done with him, I say let the shoehorning begin.

What could possibly happen to that character that you'd find satisfying? His entire story was about getting back with penny, that happened they are happy... it's over. Time to move on. I like Des to but trying to force him back into the story after he has reached a natural conclusion will not be good either for the character or for the show.

I would like to know why Desmond was having visions of Charlie dying in the first place.That question has been answered. It was sideffect of turning the failsafe key and being exposed to that energy.

That question has been answered. It was sideffect of turning the failsafe key and being exposed to that energy.

Yeah but why Charlie? Why not everyone else?

What could possibly happen to that character that you'd find satisfying? His entire story was about getting back with penny, that happened they are happy... it's over. Time to move on. I like Des to but trying to force him back into the story after he has reached a natural conclusion will not be good either for the character or for the show.

That question has been answered. It was sideffect of turning the failsafe key and being exposed to that energy.

So the same thing could be said about Locke? He's dead, storyline concluded. They can let black shirt guy go back to looking like himself and no more Terry O'Quinn.

I like the Desmond character and don't feel those last scenes were just a good conclusion for their wonderful storyline, it was very anticlimactic. I would like to see the character again.

Penny wrote in her letter to him, "I know you have the weight of the world on your shoulders because of what happened." The need to regain his honor is what drove him to enter the sailing race. This is a major part of the story, and it's one that they've allotted to season 6.
I forgot about the letter, boy Penny sure is high on herself:biggrin: Clearly whatever happened was a big deal, maybe he sacrificed a fellow soldier to save a dozen civilians, maybe he ignored a direct order to save a soldier, and we'll find out the details next year, "It's all in the details dimples" I stated, before we were told, that Desmond is the key to everything, Faraday never said he was the key to everything but it was implied, So in my always stalwart logic, I decided then that the bulk of the story, be it Desmonds or the Islands, would be told in the final season, everything between the Pilot episode and now has been filler waiting to tell us the greater story, as it marches towards it's own end game, preparing us for whatever is to come, introducing us to the key figures in the final story and setting up an epic struggle between good and evil that will come to an end in the series finale, will there be a cliffhanger? Absolutely, it's the way of all great stories, that being said I do think we will get some form of closure but I bet there will be a wtf was that kind of ending as well, not like the Sopranos (atleast I hope not)

So the same thing could be said about Locke? He's dead, storyline concluded. They can let black shirt guy go back to looking like himself and no more Terry O'Quinn.

That is not even remotely analogous with Desmond's situation and you know it


I like the Desmond character and don't feel those last scenes were just a good conclusion for their wonderful storyline, it was very anticlimactic. I would like to see the character again.What was the problem with it? I thought it wrapped up the character's story well. There is no need for us to see him again. There's only 17 episodes left or 17*42 = 714 minutes of the show left. There is only a limited amount of screentime to go around, wasting time on a character who has already received closure is taking time away from other important things that could be happening. If they bring desmond back there better be a VERY good reason behind it... not just to appease fans who miss seeing their fav character.

Wasting time is subjective. We were told Desmond's character was special and the island isn't done with him so I'm going to go with that. At least his character is still alive.

I believe that ALL the characters will make appearances in the final season and will all have some bearing on the final outcome, or at least be affected by it. At some point we will see Boone, Shannon, Charlie, Libby, maybe even Arszt, in what context I am not sure but I strongly believe they will all appear somewhere along the way. Desmond must have a part to play, why else is he so "special"?