Who sent the text message to Olivia?

Wondering the same thing.
We know for sure Mark told Aaron and Stan did he tell anybody else?
I think it had to be Aaron.
It seems to me that Stan was a little to busy, worrying about what was going down in DC, to be sending a text to Olivia.

I barely got to see the text, did it say - Mark was drinking again or that Mark was drinking again in his FF?

It said he was drinking in his FF. I doubt it would be Aaron. He's Mark's sponsor in AA and that's all about anonymity. To tell someone would be breaking a cardinal rule of AA and a terrible betrayal of the trust that's integral to the sponsor-sponsored relationship.

I don't think it was Aaron either. Maybe someone that was part of Mark's FF, one of the gunmen? Someone was watching Mark so they knew where to find him.

Going way out on a limb here, but I am going to say "Simon". The obvious answer is Weddick, but he has nothing to gain except retaliation.

Based on what we have seen, only two people knew exactly what Mark saw.
I'd have to rule out Wedeck as he had nothing to gain and was way too busy.
Does he even know that Olivia didn't know the whole truth about Mark's FF?

Aaron may have thought (in a convoluted way) that telling Olivia now may end up saving the marriage.

I don't think Aaron will be Mark's sponsor for long.
Once Olivia confronts Mark, the trust so necessary to the relationship will be destroyed.

I don't think there's enough evidence to say at this point.

What I'm thinking is that, as we found out in this episode, we don't know all of what happened in Mark's FF. We only saw a snippet, as did he. This gives the producers something to work with, filling in the blanks. I'd guess it was someone else who was with or saw Mark in his FF from a portion of his FF that is as-of-yet unknown. What motives? I dunno. But that's my guess.

China.

China.

You win.

It almost had to be Aaron because he was the only one that knew Olivia didn't know about the drinking. Most people would think that Mark told her everything.

As stated above we don't have enough info, as of now, to make any kind of solid determination.

But given that, aside from Mark, Wedeck and Aaron are the only people that knew of Mark's future binge (that is, baring any kind of 'creative control' or 'surveillance' of a person's GBO by some third-party…), it seems inescapable that Aaron was the source. Wedeck has no apparent reason to tell Olivia, wanting that little bit of info to never see the light of day. Aaron on the other hand, has admonished Mark for hiding this from Olivia. Aaron has also stated before how the GBO and FFVs have 'changed the rules' and that people should do something about them. With that nearly ends-justifies-the-means mindset, I think, Aaron could justify breaking Mark's trust if he believed that it would prevent him from picking the bottle back up. Add to this Mr.Goyer's recent reveal Aaraon will have more to do than simply be Mark's sponsor. In fact, by the end of the first season, Aaron won't BE Mark's sponsor anymore.

Oh, I hope Aaron didn't send that text to Olivia...I hope he has more faith in Mark, than to do that. There is just something about Aaron that makes me really like him and I don't want him doing anything like that to a friend...

Oh, I hope Aaron didn't send that text to Olivia...I hope he has more faith in Mark, than to do that. There is just something about Aaron that makes me really like him and I don't want him doing anything like that to a friend...
I hear ya Mom.

Aaron, to me, is the most sympathetic character. I've seen others gravitate toward D'Noh, but Aaron's character had me invested from jump. I could see a cold logic to him telling 'Livy, but Aaron just doesn't seem like that kinda guy.

I really do hope it's a third-party, but that option opens a whole other can-o-worms. Those would be some interesting worms though. :biggrin:

Maybe I misunderstood the earlier scene with Olivia and Aaron when she was talking to him about overhearing that Mark was going to "meetings in DC. I thought it was established that he was struggling with drinking...I know they didnt mention because of his future FF, but when she got the text I didn't think it was too shocking and can't see Aaron sending it. That would be breaking his AA oath, but....it it will be interesting when Mark arrives home...

Hmm, wait does Nicole know?

Maybe I misunderstood the earlier scene with Olivia and Aaron when she was talking to him about overhearing that Mark was going to "meetings in DC. I thought it was established that he was struggling with drinking...I know they didnt mention because of his future FF, but when she got the text I didn't think it was too shocking and can't see Aaron sending it. That would be breaking his AA oath, but....it it will be interesting when Mark arrives home...
I haven't done a re-watch, yet. But the way I read that scene was that Olivia overheard solely Aaron telling Mark, more than once, to go to a meeting. He has been 7 years sober. He mentioned a 'slip-up', which I assume was 7 years ago, at a time when his was under some official scrutiny (I can't recall the exact "reason" for it). He is going through the same thing now in D.C.. Add to that the recent edgy (to put it mildly) behavior Mark has expedited to Olivia and she has a cause to worry even before overhearing Aaron. But Olivia had heard nothing of Mark's 'future' drinking, nor has he expressed any yens for a drink to her. So I thought that Olivia's reaction was justified, as a knee-jerk reaction. I, too, am interested in seeing how they will have her (not) bring this up with Mark…

Hmm, wait does Nicole know?
I'm pretty sure we've never seen Nicole learn that.
Though I have a question about Noh's knowledge of it? Can't recall if Mark told him during one of the 1st ep's or not?

I'm guessing Agent Vreede.

We heard him tell the polygraph guy in D.C. that in his FF he was in his FBI office and then part-way through it he left and got on the elevator. The place where Mark's board is in the FBI offices has lots of interior glass around it. So maybe Vreede could have seen him swigging. Then something that was happening in D.C. while the agents were there made Vreede feel like he needed to let Olivia know.

Transcripts
"No More Good Days (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2790877&postcount=1)"
"White To Play (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2795193&postcount=1)"
"137 Sekunden (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2795194&postcount=1)"
"Black Swan (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2797010&postcount=1)"
I posted each page seperately because they load much faster, My Media is another site that slows down my P C.

I read through "No More Good Days" and Mark does not tell Demetri about his drinking in that one. I haven't read through the other three but I really don't think Mark told Demetri about the drinking.

…I read through "No More Good Days" and Mark does not tell Demetri about his drinking in that one. I haven't read through the other three but I really don't think Mark told Demetri about the drinking.
Thanks for that NBC. We, at the house, were pretty sure that D'Noh didn't know, but I still had a question about it. Thanks, again, for clearing that one up :biggrin:

I'm guessing Agent Vreede.

We heard him tell the polygraph guy in D.C. that in his FF he was in his FBI office and then part-way through it he left and got on the elevator. The place where Mark's board is in the FBI offices has lots of interior glass around it. So maybe Vreede could have seen him swigging. Then something that was happening in D.C. while the agents were there made Vreede feel like he needed to let Olivia know.

Is Vreede the fatter guy that was singing with Demetri? Because I think there is definitely more to his story than he let on. In fact seeing as he made a point of noting he went out the security door that may be how the gunmen got into the building in the first place. Not saying he was necessarily in on it but he must have seen something other than what he mentioned...we know he lied about something.

…seeing as he made a point of noting he went out the security door that may be how the gunmen got into the building in the first place.…
Cool idea! It could help to pin-point the series of events that led to the masked gunmen threatening Mark in the office.

Transcripts
"No More Good Days (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2790877&postcount=1)"
"White To Play (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2795193&postcount=1)"
"137 Sekunden (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2795194&postcount=1)"
"Black Swan (http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2797010&postcount=1)"
I posted each page seperately because they load much faster, My Media is another site that slows down my P C.

I read through "No More Good Days" and Mark does not tell Demetri about his drinking in that one. I haven't read through the other three but I really don't think Mark told Demetri about the drinking.

I've been adding these to the PPR Library as they show up. As I've found out the hard way bookmarks get lost when your computer crashes.

Sam, try del.icio.us as a way to 'back-up' your bookmarks.

Does it work on mac? I've had my mac for over 4 year and never had 1 problem but a dvd got stuck and they had to do a bunch of stuff to get it out, so I lost my bookmarks but the ones I use all the time I know by heart anyway.

Yeah, delicious is a web app, so darn-near everything works with it.

I like the idea of Vreede texting Olivia more than Aaron. That just goes against everything AA's about. My first thought, though, was Stanford in retaliation for not telling him about it before he used up all his political capital with the President.
I can't figure out, though, what Vreed's motive would be. :shrug:

This (http://heroeswiki.com/images/1/1e/Barry_Shabaka_Henley.jpg) is the actor, Barry Shabaka Henley, that plays Vreede. I know I couldn't place the name Vreede…

I agree that Stanford is the least likely to have a motive. Aaron could, as others have suggested, justify the breech of confidence if he thinks he is helping Mark to better use his "gift"...Also, if Mark goes off the wagon as a result of him falling out with Aaron, that could be the ephinany that Aaron needs to convince him that all the FFVs are true and that he should use his "gift" to find Tracy? Kind of links those two stories...

I'm intrigued about the possibility of Vreed though. His polygraph and vision were highlighted for a reason, and of course he could've been watching Mark during his flash which would mean he lied on his polygraph. I suppose he could have a motive we don't know about yet. I have to watch again, but I actually thought that it was Vreed's car that was blown up in the parking lot shoot out? Was Vreed involved in the shoot out? I don't remember seeing him so I thought he was blown up in the car? I got so caught up in the action, better watch again!!! :undecide:

He was in the shootout.


Watching the episode again. So.....Who was Demetri texting during the press conference with the president? Mark decided to stay in the hotel. Hard to get the timing down.

Even if Demetri knows I cannot think of any reason he would want to tell Olivia. I can't really think of motivation for any characters we already know to tell Olivia.

Me either. Some of speculated on podcasts that it was Simon but that doesn't make any sense either.