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-calypso-
12-19-2009, 03:08 PM
I just saw lost tutorial 3 Hatches and patches, it's a good one they made a recap of every Dharma station we saw from the begining of the show...they confirm the pearl is the station in the middle of the blast door map....but they said we don't know exactly what is the purpose of the looking glass station....so i suppose it must be important if we still don't know exactly... my idea knowing lost is that it must be linked to a mirror reality or something like that...it must be linked to all these ideas of duality/double in lost...it makes me think of Dr Suds idea about the 216 on the truce letter as being in fact 2x108.
Another question i have is about the arrow station...i thought it was a mathematical station to study the valenzetti equation (was it just a fan theory?) but they said it was a station to study the hostiles?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk1MrAJowpM

Any thoughts or ideas about all that?

Thunderstorm
12-19-2009, 05:04 PM
Read this thread for more Looking Glass discussion about portals:

http://forum.thefuselage.com/showthread.php?t=111026&highlight=glass

Also, the Arrow was explained in the first 5 minutes of Season 5 when Chang started the orientation video, but before he was interrupted he said it about strategies against the Hostiles or to that effect.


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Meano Franko
12-19-2009, 05:08 PM
Read this thread for more Looking Glass discussion about portals:

http://forum.thefuselage.com/showthread.php?t=111026&highlight=glass

Also, the Arrow was explained in the first 5 minutes of Season 5 when Chang started the orientation video, but before he was interrupted he said it about strategies against the Hostiles or to that effect.


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Chang has intentionally lied on those tapes to mislead certain watchers in certain stations.

-calypso-
12-20-2009, 03:48 AM
Chang has intentionally lied on those tapes to mislead certain watchers in certain stations.

Interesting idea...:rolleyes:

Thanks thunderstorm for the link!;)

simone5p
12-20-2009, 08:46 PM
I always thought Penny calling into the Looking Glass Station was a big clue.

I think the Looking Glass is akin to a two-sided mirror... or where one can watch/observe as the Eye of the Island. All those cables running out to sea? Perhaps it also is the Island's source of electricity?

RodimusBen
12-21-2009, 07:28 AM
The stations are only important as story devices, nothing more. The Looking Glass station was important for exactly three episodes, as a way to present an obstacle to the survivors contacting the freighter and to give Charlie a way to nobly sacrifice his life once they had decided to kill him. It was described as a submarine docking station in those episodes, which is logical, since they would need a place to perform repair and maintenance on the submarine (not just at the end of a pier).

The Arrow served the purpose of showing us that there were multiple stations on the Island (to that point, the Swan was the only one that had been discovered), to give the tail section survivors a headquarters, and so Mr. Eko could find the missing piece of the orientation film. Thunderstorm is correct in that they explained its purpose in 5x01 with the Chang flashback.

Edit:
Lost: The Complete Third Season (DVD) Commentary says: The Looking Glass Station is a communications station. Its role is to emit the ping that guides the submarine to the Island.
From DarkUFO.

Secoura
12-21-2009, 11:22 AM
I always thought Penny calling into the Looking Glass Station was a big clue.

It will be interesting to see if they ever explain how she managed to call the Looking Glass Station. Did she know about the island and how to communicate with the Looking Glass? Or was it just dumb luck? Who was she originally trying to communicate with?

simone5p
12-21-2009, 11:35 AM
The stations are only important as story devices, nothing more. The Looking Glass station was important for exactly three episodes, as a way to present an obstacle to the survivors contacting the freighter and to give Charlie a way to nobly sacrifice his life once they had decided to kill him. It was described as a submarine docking station in those episodes, which is logical, since they would need a place to perform repair and maintenance on the submarine (not just at the end of a pier).

The Arrow served the purpose of showing us that there were multiple stations on the Island (to that point, the Swan was the only one that had been discovered), to give the tail section survivors a headquarters, and so Mr. Eko could find the missing piece of the orientation film. Thunderstorm is correct in that they explained its purpose in 5x01 with the Chang flashback.

Edit:Lost: The Complete Third Season (DVD) Commentary says: The Looking Glass Station is a communications station. Its role is to emit the ping that guides the submarine to the Island.

From DarkUFO.
Of course, the LG fulfilled the roles you point out... but I also have a feeling that we've made some assumptions about the true purpose of each DI station.

"Communications station" is just vague enough to be interpreted in different ways. TPTB are admittedly deceitful. And much larger subs are repaired at docks all the time. Also, you wouldn't need to build a station just for an underwater beacon. Ben was able to communicate.. offshore at least... to the Kahana directly from his barracks and the numbers were broadcast from the Island to listening stations, apparenlty to one like Penny's. Imo, the sub we saw wouldn't be able to completely surface in the pool in the LG, as it was too small of a space.

But this thread got me thinking too about Mikhail... I have a feeling based on his past resurrections that he is not truly dead. . . and the glass eye... there must be a connection there with the crossed out eye in Desmond's mural... the black eye, white eye...

A glass eye is a kind of looking glass, no?

RodimusBen
12-21-2009, 12:03 PM
Of course, the LG fulfilled the roles you point out... but I also have a feeling that we've made some assumptions about the true purpose of each DI station.

"Communications station" is just vague enough to be interpreted in different ways. TPTB are admittedly deceitful. And much larger subs are repaired at docks all the time. Also, you wouldn't need to build a station just for an underwater beacon. Ben was able to communicate.. offshore at least... to the Kahana directly from his barracks and the numbers were broadcast from the Island to listening stations, apparenlty to one like Penny's. Imo, the sub we saw wouldn't be able to completely surface in the pool in the LG, as it was too small of a space.

But this thread got me thinking too about Mikhail... I have a feeling based on his past resurrections that he is not truly dead. . . and the glass eye... there must be a connection there with the crossed out eye in Desmond's mural... the black eye, white eye...

A glass eye is a kind of looking glass, no?I think you're splitting hairs. The writers do not think as deeply into this stuff as the fans do. The glass eye was just thrown in there to be weird and will not be mentioned again. And at the risk of being repetitive, the stations served their story purposes for their respective episodes, so I think the chances are minimal we will hear anything more about either of them. The things you still consider to be unanswered about them are things that average fans of the show do not think about anymore, roughly akin to the "mystery" of how the cleaning supplies get into the janitorial closet at the office where I work.
100%
It will be interesting to see if they ever explain how she managed to call the Looking Glass Station. Did she know about the island and how to communicate with the Looking Glass? Or was it just dumb luck? Who was she originally trying to communicate with?
That's been explained. She used an autodialer. Not all that farfetched really, but it's something that TPTB had to explain because not all fans were aware that the technology existed.

bigmouth
12-21-2009, 12:24 PM
The stations are only important as story devices, nothing more. The Looking Glass station was important for exactly three episodes, as a way to present an obstacle to the survivors contacting the freighter and to give Charlie a way to nobly sacrifice his life once they had decided to kill him. It was described as a submarine docking station in those episodes, which is logical, since they would need a place to perform repair and maintenance on the submarine (not just at the end of a pier).
I agree with Rodimus with one important exception. I think the Looking Glass was integral to the Loophole. MIB sent Desmond a series of visions to delay Charlie's death long enough for him to make contact with Penny in the Looking Glass. As a result, Penny was able to rescue the O6, setting the stage for Locke to leave the Island and die.

Thunderstorm
12-21-2009, 01:00 PM
I agree with that opinion as well (also agree with Rodimus) but it's a lot of fun to think about it as a portal. ;)

bousha1
12-21-2009, 07:56 PM
nice comments on the, "Looking Glass," station. I'm inclined to agree that the statement from, "Hatches and Patches," is on of the very few non-spoiler hints we will get about ANYTHING from Season 6.

a few additional comments...

first, INTERESTINGLY, when we see Penny on the screen in the looking glass, she says something to the effect of, "how did you get this frequency?" It surprised me because I always thought she was calling them, but it looks like something was programed to call her... or her enigmatic Dad, more likely.

second, I don't don't think that the question of "what?" about the LG has been at all resolved for the fans. There have been some great theories out there about how people really got to and from the island. I'm hoping I wasn't the only one who felt extremely teased watching Sawyer, Juliet and Kate start that (pathetically CGI'ed) journey, only to have them escape before drinking the punch.

Finally, like the Patchy symbolism, but really, Mikial is DEAD. D&C have confirmed this.

RodimusBen
12-22-2009, 12:50 AM
I agree with Rodimus with one important exception. I think the Looking Glass was integral to the Loophole. MIB sent Desmond a series of visions to delay Charlie's death long enough for him to make contact with Penny in the Looking Glass. As a result, Penny was able to rescue the O6, setting the stage for Locke to leave the Island and die.
It all depends on how long MIB was planning his loophole. I happen to think it wasn't before Locke's first visit to the cabin. But there's really no way to know at this point.

first, INTERESTINGLY, when we see Penny on the screen in the looking glass, she says something to the effect of, "how did you get this frequency?" It surprised me because I always thought she was calling them, but it looks like something was programed to call her... or her enigmatic Dad, more likely.
No, she was using an autodialer. TPTB have confirmed this. She knew the location of the Island as of the season 2 finale. She had a system in her home rigged to continually scan for communication from the Island and pick up when she got a signal.
second, I don't don't think that the question of "what?" about the LG has been at all resolved for the fans. There have been some great theories out there about how people really got to and from the island. I'm hoping I wasn't the only one who felt extremely teased watching Sawyer, Juliet and Kate start that (pathetically CGI'ed) journey, only to have them escape before drinking the punch.
I don't know why everyone calls that CGI shot bad. The only reason you think it looks fake is because you know it's fake.

I think, by this point in LOST, we have to start accepting some things at face value. You can continue to doubt the veracity of the information we've already been shown, but I think that's going to leave you very, very frustrated by the end of the series.

bigmouth
12-22-2009, 11:01 AM
It all depends on how long MIB was planning his loophole. I happen to think it wasn't before Locke's first visit to the cabin. But there's really no way to know at this point.
I think the Loophole begins opening in 1954, when Locke walks into the Others' camp claiming to have been sent by Jacob. That's when Locke gives Richard the compass, which is key to planting the notion that Locke must die off the Island.