Was that final "What Happened?" in Sayid's voice or Charlie's voice?

My initial reaction was that it was Charlie's voice, which would open up a whole new kettle of fish...

But on multiple replays I'm just not sure.

I'm sorry, what now? You're obviously hearing things that aren't there. It was Sayid.

Always nice to see someone who hears the voices altering like I do. I agree the voice is definitely altered and really weird...doesn't necessarily sound like Dominic Monaghan to me, though, unless he suddenly became a creepy sounding bass: link

Sounds like i would expect from someone who's last memory was drowning.

Sounds like i would expect from someone who's last memory was drowning.

Sure, why not, except I really don't think it was Naveen Andrews' voice.

I just watched the episodes again. When 'Sayid' wakes up and says "What happened," it does not sound like his voice. It almost sounds like Charlie! Did anyone else notice this?

I couldn't quite place it...but it didnt sound natural.

I honestly didn't notice a difference, but someone else I know thought it was different. I did notice that it was the exact same thing that Jack said when he woke up from the Swan site explosion. The scene where Kate/Miles join up with Jack/Sawyer at the site. Didn't really strike me as unusual since just about anyone would ask the same question, I suppose.

To me it sounded like they had him drop his fake middle eastern accent, and use his real English accent.

He only says two words, so it's hard to get a take on that.

-- J

that would be funny if they let him just use his English accent now.

I thought it sounded like he said it with an English accent as well, it sure didn't sound like his Middle Eastern accent to me.

I just watched the episodes again. When 'Sayid' wakes up and says "What happened," it does not sound like his voice. It almost sounds like Charlie! Did anyone else notice this?

It did sound like Charlie. My friend said he sounded more British than Iraqi. Of course, the actor is British, but still. Odd.

I totally thought it sounded like Navin's natural accent too. My hubby and I even joked about it. (No offense to any Brits out there) but we often say things like, " 'ello, Gov'na" in reference to Sayid because of the actor's thick accent - so we really took note this time.

It could be that Sayid's body is inhabited by somebody else now. Who? Who knows. Think of possible characters with british accents. Charlie? Could be. Widmore? His way back to the island somehow? Charlotte had a british accent, but cross-gender body snatching doesn't seem right to me for some reason. :)

Neat! We'll find out next week for sure. A Sayid with the super thick Brit accent would be awesome.

In the same vein, in the episode There's No Place Like Home when Dream-Claire says "Don't you dare bring him back" it's totally Kate's voice/accent coming out of Claire's mouth.

That would definitely be interesting ... But I have heard the actors (No offense to them) drop their accents a few times. Claire did, and I've heard Sayid's actor do the same as well, with certain words, but only ever briefly.

I would say that even if someone else was in Sayid's body, he would retain the same accent. Consider, if a hockey player was suddenly put into a fat man's body, simply because the mind of the hockey player knows how to use certain muscles differently than the fat man, it doesn't mean that he will be able to in the new body. Similarly, just because an english-speaker is placed in a body that spoke a different language, i'm not sure it would transfer.

That would definitely be interesting ... But I have heard the actors (No offense to them) drop their accents a few times. Claire did, and I've heard Sayid's actor do the same as well, with certain words, but only ever briefly.

I would say that even if someone else was in Sayid's body, he would retain the same accent. Consider, if a hockey player was suddenly put into a fat man's body, simply because the mind of the hockey player knows how to use certain muscles differently than the fat man, it doesn't mean that he will be able to in the new body. Similarly, just because an english-speaker is placed in a body that spoke a different language, i'm not sure it would transfer.

It would be done for dramatic effect. Since this a TV show it is presented with audio and visual clues. It helps the audience understand what is going on in someone's head since we can't read the character's state of mind.

My sister and I both noticed his voice sounded funny.. We both agreed British, and perhaps dubbed-over or altered.

I had 2 thoughts... 1-wow.. poor guys' body almost drowned and his throat sure must be sore after that flailing around and 2- he probably could have used a drink before trying to speak after almost drowning.
Then, I had additional thoughts: 3- Naveen has a british accent. 4- it appeared that he swallowed hard during those 2 very revealing words.

Could the pool have transferred energy from the sideways Sayid to normal Sayid? Now that our Sayid is okay is other Sayid all messed up? Is that why he supposedly can't remember anything, because most of his mind is of a Sayid that's never been to the island?


Consider, if a hockey player was suddenly put into a fat man's body, simply because the mind of the hockey player knows how to use certain muscles differently than the fat man, it doesn't mean that he will be able to in the new body.

DAMN I WANNA SEE THAT SHOW!!! I'd call it 'Canadian Bacon"!!

I mentioned this in another thread and cant believe people havent picked up on it before!

I watched Jack's apendix surgery episode recently (S04E10?) The very begining Juliet is attempting to wake Jack by calling his name; however its deffinately not her voice, its an English accent (Charlotte maybe?) calling his name and it distinctly changes back to Juliet's voice once he regains conciousness.

I've noticed it more than a handful of times through the 6 series, i guess it ties in with the alt timelines but it could be something else?

Deffinately occured many times before though.

I mentioned this in another thread and cant believe people havent picked up on it before!

I watched Jack's apendix surgery episode recently (S04E10?) The very begining Juliet is attempting to wake Jack by calling his name; however its deffinately not her voice, its an English accent (Charlotte maybe?) calling his name and it distinctly changes back to Juliet's voice once he regains conciousness.

I've noticed it more than a handful of times through the 6 series, i guess it ties in with the alt timelines but it could be something else?

Deffinately occured many times before though.

Thanks for backing us up, GStar. Yes, it happens a lot...parts of voices (or sometimes whole conversations) sound altered or reminiscent of other characters' voices. I think I started a thread on it last season and folks lampooned it...let me go look for it. :)

Please don't tell me that he's been possessed by Juliet! :rolleyes:

Maybe I've been drinking too much coffee, but at this second I'll grant you a definitive maybe.

One nice connection here is: Sayid drowns in the one narrative (and Jack tries to save him), and in the plane narrative Charlie almost chokes to death (and Jack tries to save him), but again ... could be nothing.

I have to admit, the idea of Naveen playing the Charlotte or Juliet character is pretty mind-blowing! Remember that movie where Steve Martin was in a woman's body?

It sounded like Sayid to me - voice was strange (IMHO) due to his recent ordeal, and possibly we were hearing it through his own ears (if his hearing isn't 100% recovered) - much like we heard distorted sound until Kate cleared her hearing.

No way is it Charlie's voice. That's like something out of a Treehouse of Horrors episode of The Simpsons. He was trying to sound like a guy whose lungs had just been full of water, and his accent might have slipped a bit.

To me it sounded like they had him drop his fake middle eastern accent, and use his real English accent.
That's exactly what I thought. I did not sound like Charlie, but it was definately an English accent. I noticed the first time I watched it. It seemed very obvious. I can't imagine it was an unintentional slip that they let pass. It was the cliffhanger, so I think they would be more careful.

I didn't think much of it as it sounded like him to me, but I've never had any indication through the show that Charlie is super special so I see no reason Charlie would be Sayid or anything like that.

I think Charlie will just be Charlie, but I do think Sayid might now be Jacob...!

I think people are looking too much much into this...

I don't think just because you here another voice out of a character for a very brief period, i don't think that means they've suddenly been possesed by someone else, it could simply be a nod to a greater reveal we haven't seen yet. If these two timelines do end up "clashing" and Jack fixes Locke, so on island he can walk, Rose gets the all clear, and therefore isn't sick on the island, i don't think its too far fetched to perhaps see a character in the alternate timeline screaming Jacks name (like in the apendix surgery episode) and, as for Sayid's "What happened?" has anyone checked Charlie on the plane, as people are saying it sounds like him, did he proclaim that when jack saved him? If not i'd keep an eye out for these phrases being used in the other timeline, they've been dubbing lines in this show for years.

To me it sounded like they had him drop his fake middle eastern accent, and use his real English accent.

I immediately thought this as well. I mentioned it to my wife, but she didn't notice the change. I do tend to be good with voices, though, even when they alter them to try to hide the identity before the reveal.

I think people are looking too much much into this...

I disagree. I think since someone is making the effort to do this dubbing/voice alteration that we should at least be keeping track of it. It could be useful later. :)

I don't think just because you here another voice out of a character for a very brief period, i don't think that means they've suddenly been possesed by someone else, it could simply be a nod to a greater reveal we haven't seen yet.I agree with this statement, though.

If these two timelines do end up "clashing" and Jack fixes Locke, so on island he can walk, Rose gets the all clear, and therefore isn't sick on the island, i don't think its too far fetched to perhaps see a character in the alternate timeline screaming Jacks name (like in the apendix surgery episode) and, as for Sayid's "What happened?" has anyone checked Charlie on the plane, as people are saying it sounds like him, did he proclaim that when jack saved him? If not i'd keep an eye out for these phrases being used in the other timeline, they've been dubbing lines in this show for years.
That's an interesting idea.

I think Charlie's first words after being saved on the plane were "Am I alive?" but I'll have to re-watch to be sure.

ETA: yep. That's what he said. Then he looked around and said 'terrific.'

I think Charlie's first words after being saved on the plane were "Am I alive?" but I'll have to re-watch to be sure.

That's correct. It's what was written on his hand at Comic-Con too ;)

Nice thread. I noticed this too, however I am not really prepared to much weight on it because Sayid has let his Iraqi accent slip a number of times before, I remember this being pointed out in the finale of the last season, for example.

However, a part of me does still think there could be something to this.

People can acquire and lose accents, and so if there is some sort of strange timeline conciousness jumping going on, Sayid could now be a Sayid that has lived in England long enough to have attained a greater English accent.


Alternatively, given the themes of re-incarnation that have been explored in the show such as Richard's test to young Locke, and lines that suggest a great difference between mind and body ("that's not Naomi, it's just meat" and "They didn't lose your father they just lost his body," Sayid's body could now be being worn by someone else.

Charlie is a possibility I think, for this reason: He drowned on the island. Hurley, who we know sees dead people as though they were alive, was visited by Charlie and on one occassion we see him in water, when the window appears to break and for a second, water begins to fill the room Hurley is in.

Could this be foreshadowing the fact neither Charlie's body or mind has been able to escape its watery grave, and thus is still floating around in island territory, until the point when it flows into Sayid's body. :frown:

Something else to consider would be whether there is any truth to the previous suggestions that a lot of recent Sayid stories were originally intended for Mr Eko (young ben being shot by a priest eg). Interestingly, Mr. Eko, like Sayid, also has a natural English accent - is this long game casting on the part of the producers, knowing that Charlie will be reborn at some point?

I this this thread will be able to be put to death as soon as the next episode airs, but it is certainly an interesting possibilty in my opinion. :biggrin:

I know Sayid only said two words, but they sounded like the actor's British accent. I'm speculating that the Sayid who is now alive is from another timeline. In the other timeline, he was either raised in England instead of Iraq or he went to university in England and took on a British accent.

Hmm, I kind of like the speculation that his character might be British now. Of course, if his accent has slipped several times before, we could add the speculation that LadybirdKate, Hildy, and I have made in the past that he is a double agent. That certainly would be a long con, that he has been faking being Iraqi for five seasons. Of course if you believe the flashbacks are literal that kind of screws up that speculation....hmm...will have to think about this one.

I thought it sounded odd as well when I watched it. But it doesn't sound like his English accent to me, just sounds like the characters one, but slightly off a bit. I put it down to a shocked voice after what he had just been through.... assuming this is Sayid and he remembers being shot etc.

It is definitely Naveen. I honestly think that he just didn't stress the Iraqi accent as hard during the line, and it sounded like his normal accent a little. I don't think it's a major clue. But that's just me. I'm sure we'll see in a few days.

And it's pretty hard to tell from only 2 words.

I JUST finished rewatching this episode, and what it sounded like to me was Naveen Andrews' normal voice coming through, instead of his Sayid accent.
Pretty surprising that this cut was the one that made it through to the final edit.

You have to bear in mind that Naveen Andrews has something of a cockney accent from London. To me his voice sounded very posh (like Robert Downey Jr. trying to do the Sherlock Holmes accent lol) so it was rather obscure to hear him talk like that as his natural accent is much different.

I honestly just thought it was a result of drowning/dying. You know how you sound funny after you choke on something? Kinda like that.

the templeton dude with glasses llooked at Sayid awaking and said.....

"Oh my god"

itsagame, now we're talking...so Templeton guy recognized Sayid as his god. This reminds me of Rose saying "oh my god" when she saw the trees being thrown around in The Pilot.

I guess from the next episode we can see the accent slip didn't amount to much.