View Full Version : Sayid's weakness
thelizinator297 05-05-2005, 11:02 PM I like Sayid and I think his backstory is interesting but I have noticed that he seems to have a weakness for women. It seemed that he fell in love with Nadia pretty quickly when he saw her again after so long. When he was with Danielle, they had a moment of chemistry and they were about to kiss. And now his latest interest is Shannon. It just seems to me that he falls really easily.
uk_girl 05-07-2005, 05:54 AM I like Sayid and I think his backstory is interesting but I have noticed that he seems to have a weakness for women. It seemed that he fell in love with Nadia pretty quickly when he saw her again after so long. When he was with Danielle, they had a moment of chemistry and they were about to kiss. And now his latest interest is Shannon. It just seems to me that he falls really easily.
I agree. It seems a bit odd that Sayid spends 7 years travelling from place to place searching for Nadia, was actually on a plane that was going to take him to where she was, and then once on the island has 'moments' with Kate, Danielle and then a relationship with Shannon.
Especially when you consider the extreme lengths he went to for Nadia. He killed for her, betrayed friend and country for her, was instrumental in a friends death for her and had by all accounts been searching for her all over the world for 7 years. Yet all of a sudden she is no longer important to him and Shannon is?
It's one of those times where 2+2 doesn't add up to 4... :-\
katorhue 05-07-2005, 06:56 AM Well....I think he's just susceptible and a romantic (as one myself, it is a weakness!). But to be fair, in countries where female chastity is at a premium and is the norm, the least liittle thing can make a man fall, and go to enormous lengths, too. I recently saw a film festival movie called "The Color of Love," done by an Iranian woman going to school at NYU. She went home for a visit to make this very fascinating documentary which centers on young people during a religious festival when they are allowed to wander the streets at night. The religious police are there, watching them like hawks, but they manage to eye each other soulfully (I'm talking about lots of them, not just one couple), discover the name of the love object, track her down and pass her a note to meet for innocent assignations (these were people about 21 yrs. old). Sometimes the family would allow marriage, sometimes not. But they went to extremes of effort on the basis of nothing but a glance and a smile.
Iraq was not that repressive/segregated as far as conversation and daily life were concerned, but chastity still ultra-important. If you grow up like that, spending seven years outside in your 30s, even in wild and open Western countries, you don't shake off that romanticism easily, especially if it suits your personality.
Plus, a month alone in circumstances where death could come any day (but might not! and there are those lovely palms and the sunsets)_does_ tend to speed up things. (and I'm still plumping for a betrayal of Sayid by Nadia--in Sayid the Romantic thread--which might lead him to try to shake off her memory)
uk_girl 05-07-2005, 08:51 AM (and I'm still plumping for a betrayal of Sayid by Nadia--in Sayid the Romantic thread--which might lead him to try to shake off her memory)
katorhue, that's actually where I was going with my comment. We don't actually know that Sayid is chasing Nadia for love. He could just as easily be chasing her for some betrayal, after he helped her escape.
Sayid doesn't believe in fate, I doubt he sees himself and Nadia as fated lovers. Heck, he didn't even say the words at the prayer mosque, he made all the right motions, but wasn't saying the prayer, so I don't see him as a devout muslim either.
It could be that he is chasing Nadia down to right a wrong he feels was done...
thelizinator297 05-07-2005, 07:35 PM I think a lot of stuff going on with Sayid and Nadia and Sayid and Danielle has to do with Sayid's guilt. He probably felt really badly for Nadia because he was interrogating her and he was supposed to torture her, and she recognized him as someone from her childhood. Because they had a connection he probably felt like he had to be a rock for her in a time of political turmoil.
With Danielle it was probably because he felt sorry for her. She had been stranded on the island for years, and all of the other people on her famil and expedition were gone and she clearly wans't completely mentally stable. With just all of that he pitied her but then she starts to look at him kind of romantically because she hasn't seen another man in years and she's so desparate. He proably wanted to be a companion to her.
I mean, I'm not trying ot say I don't think he wasn't attratced to these women, but I think those factors had a lot to do with and he's a romantic.
Robinhood56 05-08-2005, 11:45 PM I don't see his "relationship" with these three women are anything alike.
Danielle, when were they about to kiss? ??? That must have been edited out of the episode I saw. She touched his face but shortly after she drugged him and chained him to a chair. He felt sorry for her, pitied her but Romantic feelings? I don't think so.
Nadia is a point of much debate. I'm one who does not feel it was romantic love there either. Until we know for sure why he has been looking for her (and people will got to extraordianry lengths for something other than love) we can't say for sure what his motives are. He knew Nadia in the past so any feeling were not sudden and. again, we don't know that he fell in love with her. Cared about her yes, but there has been no mention of love by him.
Shannon, she is the first woman he has considered getting close to since he realized he was holding other at a distance (as he told Danielle) and putting a large part of his life on hold. It was almost a trial attempt at connecting with another. He likes to be the hero and she seemed to need a kind of rescuing.
All very different things.
ceilidh 05-09-2005, 12:43 AM Heck, he didn't even say the words at the prayer mosque, he made all the right motions, but wasn't saying the prayer, so I don't see him as a devout muslim either.
I'm glad someone else noticed that, too. I'm wondering just how he became part of the Republican Guard since he doesn't seem to be that devout, and I was under the impression that the RG requires its members to be strict Muslims. Maybe I'm wrong.... but I also think that his search for Nadia is more about righting a wrong and verifying that she escaped and not about romance. I didn't see any romance between Sayid and Danielle, either. I think he made a connection with her as one lonely human being to another. I just see him as being highly empathic.
Now that I have gone totally off the topic....sorry. This should go in the pro-Sayid board, huh?
ceilidh 05-14-2005, 08:18 PM When Sayid and Shannon were going to their beach picnic, Sayid holds back a branch so he can walk from the trees onto the beach. Then he lets go of it before Shannon goes by; I really thought it would slap her in the face. Not a very chivalrous thing to do before a romantic picnic.
mrstater 05-14-2005, 09:52 PM Actually, from what I have read about Saddam's regime (the Baathists), I gathered neither the government nor military were particularly devout. Rather socialistic and while anti-western, not very strict Muslim.
When Sayid and Shannon were going to their beach picnic, Sayid holds back a branch so he can walk from the trees onto the beach.* Then he lets go of it before Shannon goes by; I really thought it would slap her in the face.* Not a very chivalrous thing to do before a romantic picnic.
Actually, I rewatched that scene this morning. He holds the branch just long enough so that she can grab it herself.
Plus, cut him some slack. Naveen might have just forget to hold the branch in that shot, or thought that she had already walked past it, and that shot came out the best, aside from that minor thing.
ceilidh 05-15-2005, 01:08 PM Actually, I rewatched that scene this morning. He holds the branch just long enough so that she can grab it herself.
Plus, cut him some slack. Naveen might have just forget to hold the branch in that shot, or thought that she had already walked past it, and that shot came out the best, aside from that minor thing.
I figured it was mostly done that way so his arm wouldn't be hiding her face, but it still sort of bothered me. I really like Sayid, and this seemed out of character as much as anything else.
ooh, I just rewatched the scene again ( :P) and I realised why he did that.
He grabs the branch and pulls it out of his way, and then looks back at Shannon. She was walking more to the right of where he was, not directly behind him, so the branch wasn't in her way to begin with.
Now it makes sense.
sharma1 05-18-2005, 09:46 AM I'm glad someone else noticed that, too.* I'm wondering just how he became part of the Republican Guard since he doesn't seem to be that devout, and I was under the impression that the RG requires its members to be strict Muslims.*
strict Muslims DO NOT believe in violence, they are VERY peaceful people. I am not Muslim but I have Muslim friends and Family.* This is a fact, every religion has extremist, and the Taliban and Saddam's Regime are examples of Muslims that are using the religion in their own way to do hurtful things.* Just like the KKK uses the bible to explain their beliefs!!! which is totally twisted.
Ok I was just making a point,, sorry for going off the subject
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