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Coyote
03-02-2010, 01:18 AM
So, in the island storyline, am I correct in believing ol' Juggy's just sitting under Otherville waiting to go off?

Just saying.

Winged One
03-02-2010, 10:33 AM
I had that thought. Either that, or DHARMA disabled it correctly when they came.

Hanover
03-03-2010, 10:37 PM
So, in the island storyline, am I correct in believing ol' Juggy's just sitting under Otherville waiting to go off?

Just saying.

Good point. I'm assuming Dharma has no idea about that bomb since the others would have buried it prior to Dharma coming to the Island. Remember the Jughead episode took place in 1954.

Tick...tick...tick...

Meano Franko
03-03-2010, 10:50 PM
So, in the island storyline, am I correct in believing ol' Juggy's just sitting under Otherville waiting to go off?

Just saying.

Are you currently watching season 5 and posted in the wrong section? :)
Sayid took the core out and Juliet did/didn't blow it up at The Swan.

Hanover
03-03-2010, 11:11 PM
Are you currently watching season 5 and posted in the wrong section? :)
Sayid took the core out and Juliet did/didn't blow it up at The Swan.

No, I'm making a connection to a past episode.

The bomb DIDNT go off in our original timeline... It went off in the new timeline. Our Losties were transported back to 2004 right when the bomb went off...and in their timeline, the bomb never blew the hatch up which is why they are still there. Since Jughead was buried PRIOR to 1977, that means that bomb is STILL on the island in the original timeline.

rockergamer06
03-04-2010, 12:15 AM
No, I'm making a connection to a past episode.

The bomb DIDNT go off in our original timeline... It went off in the new timeline. Our Losties were transported back to 2004 right when the bomb went off...and in their timeline, the bomb never blew the hatch up which is why they are still there. Since Jughead was buried PRIOR to 1977, that means that bomb is STILL on the island in the original timeline.

The events of the episode "The Incident" have no causal relation to the existence of the flashsideways timeline. The fact that you as the viewer saw Jack back on 815 right after Juliet hit the bomb does not mean there was a "reset" or something similar...the writers intentionally made it seem that this was the case, but trust me it's not. In the original timeline, the bomb did go off and that itself was the Incident. We know absolutely nothing about the bomb in the flashsideways timeline and how the island came to be underwater.

NBC001
03-04-2010, 02:00 AM
No, I'm making a connection to a past episode.

The bomb DIDNT go off in our original timeline... It went off in the new timeline. Our Losties were transported back to 2004 right when the bomb went off...and in their timeline, the bomb never blew the hatch up which is why they are still there. Since Jughead was buried PRIOR to 1977, that means that bomb is STILL on the island in the original timeline.
Then why was Juliet buried in the Swan Hatch that they had already blown up in 2004?

The bomb was the Incident that we have been hearing about since the second season. The Incident is what caused the TTLosties to Flash Forward to 2007. Juliet was down the hatch when she hit the bomb and she stayed in that spot when she Flashed to 2007 with the rest of the TTLosties. That is exactly where the other TTLosties found her.

Hanover
03-04-2010, 09:33 AM
Then why was Juliet buried in the Swan Hatch that they had already blown up in 2004?

The bomb was the Incident that we have been hearing about since the second season. The Incident is what caused the TTLosties to Flash Forward to 2007. Juliet was down the hatch when she hit the bomb and she stayed in that spot when she Flashed to 2007 with the rest of the TTLosties. That is exactly where the other TTLosties found her.

How do you know? We havent been told WHAT the incident was yet. The original incident could have been the result of hitting the pocket and NOT having the bomb at the time. They had a cement mixer near them...if they didnt have the bomb they *could* have poured cement down there as a last resort? We did see the wall of cement that seemed to be hastily poured down in the hatch.

The incident could be the timelines splitting and the Dharma initiative coming to realize this and the hatch was originally built to keep that from happening.

I don't know, we don't know..nothing's been confirmed yet. I'm just going with the fact we have two timelines...one where the bomb went off and one where it didn't. If the bomb didn't go off, it could still be somewhere because that bomb was buried sometime around 1954.

The bomb could be a explain as to why the Island winds up under water later depending how the timelines are resolved. Hydrogen bombs do IMPLODE..

I watched the ENTIRE SERIES in a three day marathon while I had the flu. I'm really seeing a lot of connections and I'm basing all my theories based on what we've seen and the rules that have been set up.

Capmaster
03-08-2010, 09:06 AM
The bomb could be a explain as to why the Island winds up under water later depending how the timelines are resolved. Hydrogen bombs do IMPLODE.No, they EXplode. The implosion is only the internal design mechanism for acheiving supercritical mass (as opposed to the Hiroshima "gun barrel" design). The result is an explosion. A big one :eek2:

The underwater island thing has been sticking in my craw ever since it aired. If the hydrogen bomb had detonated it would have easily destroyed every structure on the island, man-made or otherwise. The fact that we see it underwater with all the buildings intact tells me that it was transported there via the FDW, and not some explosion.

I'm anxious to get the answer to this mystery.