You think he meant Shannon, or Nadia?

I mean, it was Shannon who died in his arms, but the last one to die in his arms was Nadia. That would be the person fresh on his mind right? Nadia was dying and asked Sayid to "take her home."

Does it really matter? I think it would be a way for TPTB to write Shannon back into the story at least....

You know, I actually completely forgot that Shannon died in Sayid's arms as well. I always thought it was weird that after spending so much time focused on finding Nadia, Sayid got into a new relationship within, what, a few weeks of crashing on the island? Still, I think he must mean Nadia, based on who was important to him in the flash-sideways. Shannon didn't show up at all in his other reality, so I'm not sure the connection is all that meaningful.

I always thought it was wierd too.

Don't forget though, last week Jack and Hurley found Shannon's inhaler....

Coincedence, or freaky foreshadowing??

You think he meant Shannon, or Nadia?

I mean, it was Shannon who died in his arms, but the last one to die in his arms was Nadia. That would be the person fresh on his mind right? Nadia was dying and asked Sayid to "take her home."

Does it really matter? I think it would be a way for TPTB to write Shannon back into the story at least....

Great point and insight, but I am pretty sure they meant Nadia, especially with the parallel flash-sideways.

Had to have been Nadia. I swear to god if it was Shannon this whole time, I'm just gonna give up.

It had to have been Nadia - he was married to her and described it as the happiest time in his life. The whole Shannon relationship was always somewhat odd to me, considering Sayid was heading to LA to find Nadia and that he promptly married her as soon as he got there, which was about two months after Shannon died.

What would Sayid have done if Shannon had lived? I've always wondered that.

I'm hoping he meant Shannon. But now that he appears evil... neither!

It's Shannon.

In the promo for next week we see Ben digging in the graveyard. It's gonna be Shannon so he can prove to Sayid that it's not her.

The writers appear to have a thing for a loved one dying in someone's arms...just a few episodes ago we saw Juliet die in Sawyer's arms.

You know, what if Locke promised Sayid that he would bring back to life the woman who died in Sayid's arms? Sayid thinks he means Nadia, but due to the technicality of the law he can bring back Shannon...or something.

Did anyone else find it hard to swallow that Sayid believed Flocke's ploy that he could bring Nadia back to him? That's pretty out of character for Sayid to believe something so unrealistic.

Did anyone else find it hard to swallow that Sayid believed Flocke's ploy that he could bring Nadia back to him? That's pretty out of character for Sayid to believe something so unrealistic.

But Sayid isn't quite himself anymore. Normally Sayid wouldn't buy that, but now he's been 'claimed' apparently, which could make him more susceptible to Flocke. Not to mention Sayid himself was just told by Miles that he was dead for two hours and it's Locke - also supposed to be dead - who's telling him this. It's no wonder that Sayid might think it possible.

I completely forgot about Shannon and Sayids love interest.

I have a feeling the spoiler in this thread will be correct. It makes sense.

That's a really interesting point. Maybe he was thinking of both of them. I thought it was weird that he said "it" and not "her"--maybe "it" meant something more general like "the possibility of making a life with the woman I loved."

Did anyone else find it hard to swallow that Sayid believed Flocke's ploy that he could bring Nadia back to him? That's pretty out of character for Sayid to believe something so unrealistic.


I know!! I saw that too
But, you know what, history has told us that usually Sayid's intuition and decisions are right. If Sayid says "run", then you'd better run or you're probably dead.. So there's got to be something else... Or perhaps its just the infection :undecide:

However, I think that what made Sayid change sides was the fact that Dogen tried to con him... Gee! I'm more confused now!!

Responding to the main post, I think the importance of that phrase ("The only thing I cared about died in my arms") should tell us something else:
I think Sayid's punishment for "all the bad things he's done" is never to be happy at love.
Nadia, Shannon, even Elsa and Ilana, any of those ended up fine. Three of them are not only dead, they actually got murdered (Elsa by Sayid himself).
So, I think we should think deeper about that... Could that strange trend mean something?? Is Ilana going to die??

I think it's Shannon. Not only are they hinting at her return, but in the flash sideways Sayid and Nadia are NOT together.... probably because he'll end up with Shannon.

Did anyone else find it hard to swallow that Sayid believed Flocke's ploy that he could bring Nadia back to him? That's pretty out of character for Sayid to believe something so unrealistic.
Which to me proved that Sayid is no longer Sayid. this was one of the main messages i got from this ep -- Claire, Sayid, Flocke are no longer who they used to be. all bets are off with them.

Until I just read in this thread about Shannon - I had completely forgotten about that mini-affair. I thought their relationship was odd at the time and it was put inside the cabinet over the fridge without much thought.. But yes, both women did die in his arms. I honestly can't imagine how they twist things to make Shannon more important to Sayid than nadia is/was

I have a really tough time thinking it's Shannon, as many of you believe.

Sayid was with Shannon for, what, a month? He spent most of his life searching for Nadia and ended up spending about three years with her. Not to mention that Nadia was his most recent relationship.

I honestly can't imagine how they twist things to make Shannon more important to Sayid than nadia is/was

I don't think they will make it that Shannon was more important - but Sayid was not specific in who he meant. If FLocke truly is the "evil" one, it will be an example of the "trickery" he uses to get people to do what he wants. The other thing is that Shannon died on the island - Nadia didn't. FLocke may not be able to "access" Nadia.

Yeah, it definitely could be Shannon, despite the fact that Nadia is his true love. We don't know how much influence the MiB has over the world outside the island, so he might not be able to get to Nadia. Oh, and she's dead and buried in Iraq anyway. If Shannon's body is on the island, he could access her.

Then again, maybe he could draw one of them over from the alt-timeline. They are both alive over there!

To me it was clearly Nadia! Nadia has always been shown as the love of his life in lost!
To me Shannon's inhaler in the previous episode was there to create confusion and maybe for another reason we'll see later but Shannon wasn't Sayid's real true love!

Which to me proved that Sayid is no longer Sayid. this was one of the main messages i got from this ep -- Claire, Sayid, Flocke are no longer who they used to be. all bets are off with them.

It also means that Sayid is not MiB. This and the fact that Claire bargained with Flocke to get Aaron in exchange for going to the Temple, means they're autonomous. MiB still has to convince them to do his will.

It will be interesting to see who it is. They are both dead, but only ones body is on the island.

In the Altiverse, Nadia is alive, but Sayid cannot be with her. He is not deserving of her.

Oh wow I totally forgot about Shannon :/

I agree regarding the trickery comments. Even if Sayid meant Nadia, that is a classic genie/god-like being thing to do--be very strict about the word choice.

I have always loved the Nadia story, but Shannon was on the island...for some reason, maybe because I distrust the flashes, that makes her feel more "real" to me.

Sayid definitely seemed different to me, and at the end he had that completely gone/evil look on his face. He definitely tipped towards the evil side of things--my jaw dropped when he killed Dogen and Lennon! Ick.

As for the Ilana dying speculation, we guessed that last year when she first was introduced as a Sayid love interest. I think there is even a parody song about don't get involved with Sayid.

I agree regarding the trickery comments. Even if Sayid meant Nadia, that is a classic genie/god-like being thing to do--be very strict about the word choice.

I have always loved the Nadia story, but Shannon was on the island...for some reason, maybe because I distrust the flashes, that makes her feel more "real" to me.




Totally agree! That's the very same thought I had he means Nadia..but he'll bring back Shannon...A Djinn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djinn) move.

Sort of very Rod Serling-esque too.

Be careful what you wish for you might just get it.

Be careful what you wish for you might just get it.

Be very, very careful. :D

I know it sounds corny but the only thing Sayid care about that died in his arms was LOVE. That's why he referred to it as it.

A bold-faced lie wouldn't have convinced Sayid to kill Dogan, so Flocke was very careful in his comment to Sayid. What Sayid meant and what Flocke promised don't have to be the same thing. That's the whole point of verbal manipulation. You misdirect a person into believing that you are saying X when you are really saying Y.

Oh Sayid, Sayid, Sayid. Even if you could get your heart's desire, look at the price you paid. And made Others pay.

Is Sayid the Adam? Is there a significance about his loved one (Shanon or Nadia) dying in his arms, just like the two dead bodies; wrapped in each others arms?

If this is the last season then these episodes need to unfurl more info than they are...

I bet, us losties are not going to get closure w/ this series. It would suck if they end this thing in just one episode...that's not enough to answer a lot of questions.

I thought it was weird that he said "it" and not "her"--

me too and it's funny cuz I tried to figure out why he'd say it, but it's grammatically correct...a thing is the noun, it is the pronoun which refers to thing... the only thing,... it died.... though most of us would have said Her.

I really don't care about Nadia much because I've never "felt" the love between she and Sayid...just mostly from him and then only his love for his picture of her which is different in the alt... She's always been kept at a distance since we first met her. And if Sayid was still an interrogator for the IRG, was Nadia still his prisoner?

I remember also Charlie saved her in London. She was at Hurley's 06 party. Locke helped her with Real Estate. She was supposedly murdered by the driver of the car that hit her.

the end

When Sayid said this I immediately though 'Shannon!'.

Then again, he said "it", maybe it could signal a reunion with a certain chicken from his childhood?

The Shannon plot was Naveen Andrews's idea, and he said it was basically to "piss off middle America". Thus, I think it wasn't really consistent with Sayid's character. He's been all about Nadia since then, until she died, that is.

Why would it piss off middle America? I'm middle American & I thought it was great.

Why would it piss off middle America? I'm middle American & I thought it was great.

Because his character is a dark-skinned Arab and Shannon was basically a blonde all-American barbie doll.

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(http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Naveen_Andrews)Naveen Andrews (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Naveen_Andrews): One of the great things about the show is that it is a collaborative process. For example, it was my idea to have the relationship with Shannon. I thought, "What would really shock Middle-America? What if Sayid was to have a relationship with a woman that looked like Miss America?" The most unlikely pairing… to come completely from left field.

Because his character is a dark-skinned Arab and Shannon was basically a blonde all-American barbie doll.

I'm middle America and I find his small-mindedness offensive.

Because his character is a dark-skinned Arab and Shannon was basically a blonde all-American barbie doll.

I still don't get it. I don't remember anyone being offended by it and I'm not sure why they would be. I agree with Avius. I just lost a lot of respect for Naveen Andrews.

He said "shock," not anger, and I remember that a lot of people found it a surprising plot twist at the time--so kudos for Naveen Andrews to want to show another interracial relationship on television. It isn't something that people would have predicted at the beginning, an Iraqi torturer and a spoiled blond--maybe now, but not before. They were both caricatures, but their characters became something more. They seemed like the least likely people to get together, and yet they loved each other. Also, kudos to all of us and any middle Americans who found it completely normal that those two fell in love...that's a good thing, just like it is a good thing that I wasn't surprised when Bernard wasn't a black man.

Yeah. Shocked is different than anger. So, I'll give him that.

The poster above said "piss off" - that implies anger. Whether it was to "shock" or "anger", it doesn't matter - it still doesn't make any sense that it would do either.

The poster above said "piss off" - that implies anger. Whether it was to "shock" or "anger", it doesn't matter - it still doesn't make any sense that it would do either.
But the poster above did not quote exactly what was said by Naveen Andrews.
It seems like the poster above was just trying to bring about these exact sentiments and this kind of discussion by posting what he/she did.

I googled the quote. He obviously doesn't know the first thing about middle America if he thought it would be shocking for the two of them to hook-up. Like I said, he has lost a lot of my respect.

I honestly remembered reading "piss off", but I was wrong. I was not trying to stir up controversy. Sorry for making so many lose respect for Naveen.

The only reason I said that was to make the point that the Shannon romance did not come from the writers. I think from the writers point of view, Nadia is the one Sayid wants.

I thought it was Nadia at first,but the producers like to lead us astray.So if the majority of Lost fans think it is Nadia that he was talking about,it will probably turn out to be Shannon.

I always thought Sayid and Shannon's time together was cut too short.It would be nice to see him find Shannon again.I'd like to see Shannon and Sayid together in the flash sideways.

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