So is anyone else as confused as I am about the Smoke Monster? I know we have been shown that Non-Locke is the smoke monster is the MIB, but this leaves me with a ton of questions.

Was Christian MIB taking Christians form? If so, why lead Jack to the place to find Adam and Eve, why befriend Claire keeping her on the Island without Aaron?

During season 4, Ben was able to call the smoke monster to attack Widmore’s crew after they killed Alex. Was this MIB, and if so why were the others able to call him?

Was Yemi MIB taking Rhemi’s form during Eko’s judgment? This seems very non-MIB like. MIB would have just killed him outright.

When Juliette and Kate were handcuffed together and approached by the smoke monster, Juliette described it as a security system and was knowledgeable about smokie, was this smokie MIB?

Possibly there are more than 2 entities on the Island (Jacob and MIB), all with the power to take other forms. Maybe this is the evil growing inside Sayid and Claire. This could also explain the many whispers heard on the island, spirits caught in some form of transit maybe?

I dunno, I am just LOST.

Thanks Cap, yep meant Yemi, sooo many characters.

Who is Rhemi? Do you mean "Yemi"?

I think it's pretty certain that the Yemi apparition was MIB assuming his form. What we don't know is what happened to Yemi's actual body after it went missing from the plane.

I'm assuming that Christian appearing was actually MIB. For some reason he can only assume the form of the dead. That rules out Walt as being a MIB apparition. Maybe Walt was a Jacob apparition.

I'm also assuming that there is only one smoke monster that has the ability to send out wisps of himself as some sort of monitoring device, to spy on threats to the island. I think that's what is meant by "security system". What we don't know yet is how it's able to blow trees out of the ground, or drag people off, or kill mercenaries or lift Eko off the ground. Apparently it can assume as much a physically forceful form as it needs.

I think the whispers are the souls of people who had died on the island. I used to think that the smoke monster was made up of souls of those same people, but now I realize it's just one entity - MIB.

So is anyone else as confused as I am about the Smoke Monster? I know we have been shown that Non-Locke is the smoke monster is the MIB, but this leaves me with a ton of questions.

Was Christian MIB taking Christians form? If so, why lead Jack to the place to find Adam and Eve, why befriend Claire keeping her on the Island without Aaron?

During season 4, Ben was able to call the smoke monster to attack Widmore’s crew after they killed Alex. Was this MIB, and if so why were the others able to call him?

Was Yemi MIB taking Rhemi’s form during Eko’s judgment? This seems very non-MIB like. MIB would have just killed him outright.

When Juliette and Kate were handcuffed together and approached by the smoke monster, Juliette described it as a security system and was knowledgeable about smokie, was this smokie MIB?

Possibly there are more than 2 entities on the Island (Jacob and MIB), all with the power to take other forms. Maybe this is the evil growing inside Sayid and Claire. This could also explain the many whispers heard on the island, spirits caught in some form of transit maybe?

I dunno, I am just LOST.

Thanks Cap, yep meant Yemi, sooo many characters.

What about the sonic security system? Is it ash and sonics that hurt MiB? Maybe he's like Venom... lol

It's a little hard to swallow that Smokey couldn't just safely go over a pylon like Kate did on the tree branch. He's supposedly a shape-shifter - why not elongate himself into a long, skinny wisp and just travel over the top of a pylon?

As far as the trail of kitty litter around the cabin, that must have its roots in Voodoo.

In Season 1, the "security system" seemed to make sense in so many ways - but it certainly doesn't describe MIB in the least.
So I think it's a retcon - don't think MIB was an idea when the "security system" line was written. I personally thought the smoke monster was an "effect" like a high tech scarecrow, to frighten the curious away from the Dharma labs. But by the time it killed Eko, well, nope, wrong. I had been wanting to believe that the mysterious stuff had a technical explanation.
Suppose it could be a security system gone bad - nanobots is the only possible science answer left, and I hope they go there.
To quote Arthur C Clarke, quoted recently in The Box, "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". I could easily buy that with smokie, flashes of light, whispers, but by season 6 it seems pretty cleat it IS magic and not technology. Of it's the latter, it's the poorest use of advanced technology imaginable, as it seems unable to achieve anything.

Keep in mind that the person who said it was a "security system" also killed her entire team and has been living in isolation for 16 years. Probably not all her oars were in the water :rolleyes:

The monster's actions don't make a whole lot of sense to me. One second it's killing dudes violently, next thing you know it's trying to drag someone underground somewhere, then at the same time it's some kind of "adjudicator", a memory reader (we've only seen it do this once!).

Also, it's weird how we've only seen it come together from smaller wisps of smoke just that one time, and that was also the only time it appeared to have multiple "heads". And then there was the one time when it attacked the mercs when it was just a large serpent and then later a swirling vortex.

And what's the "bright white light" thing about?

And the whole thing with it being repelled by ash made its nature even more confusing.

Why was it ever called "Cerberus" and why/how did it at one point "malfunction"?

It's like they were never sure what it was, so now we have all these inconsistent behaviors that finally don't align with what the monster apparently really is.

The monster's actions don't make a whole lot of sense to me. One second it's killing dudes violently, next thing you know it's trying to drag someone underground somewhere, then at the same time it's some kind of "adjudicator", a memory reader (we've only seen it do this once!).

Also, it's weird how we've only seen it come together from smaller wisps of smoke just that one time, and that was also the only time it appeared to have multiple "heads". And then there was the one time when it attacked the mercs when it was just a large serpent and then later a swirling vortex.

And what's the "bright white light" thing about?

And the whole thing with it being repelled by ash made its nature even more confusing.

Why was it ever called "Cerberus" and why/how did it at one point "malfunction"?

It's like they were never sure what it was, so now we have all these inconsistent behaviors that finally don't align with what the monster apparently really is.

As far as the memory reading thing, it was shown with Eko, Ben, plus flashes when it was facing off with Kate and Juliet, though we didn't see pictures.

In LA X, it was strongly suggested that Smokey had read everyone on flight 815,
referring to Locke as the only one who realized how pitiful the life he'd left behind was.
How could he make the comparison without having knowledge of all opposing points of view.

As far as him being called by Ben, or serving as a Judge, it seems part of it may be terms of his "imprisonment" on the Island. The rest may have been a careful campaign of disinformation (not only by the writers), but by MiB himself. Tying in, to the line from the end of The Incident
JACOB
You found your loophole.
SMOCKE
Indeed I did.
and you have no idea,
what I've gone through
to be here



As far as the stuff on the blast door map, that was what Dharma
had come up with. As far as the name it could be they saw it once appear with 3 heads like in Left Behind. and dubbed it Cerberus.

The stuff that doesn't really make sense from that map is the fact that Radzinsky shouldn't have been guessing, unless, the guesses were when Kelvin took up the task, or Rat-zinsky had his memory wiped from the Incident, ala Faraday, frrom more intense and acute, as opposed to smaller and prolonged, EM field exposure.