Follow my logic here:

So Christian on the Island was, indeed, MiB.

Did anyone see the mobisode, "So It Begins", where "Christian" says, "[Jack] has work to do." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWW9vw_ZmmI

In season 3, Locke was told in the DHARMA ditch that he "had work to do" by "Taller Ghost Walt".

Also, Shannon was led to her death by Soaked Backwards-talking Walt.

So I think that MiB HAD the ability to be any person, regardless of whether or not they were alive, and was simply lying to Jack saying that he could only look like Locke after he was dead.

What if MiB posed as characters that we knew, while they were still living?

What if MiB could also pose as animals as well, like Kate's horse, Sayid's cat, and Hurley's bird?

Follow my logic here:

So Christian on the Island was, indeed, MiB.

Did anyone see the mobisode, "So It Begins", where "Christian" says, "[Jack] has work to do." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWW9vw_ZmmI

In season 3, Locke was told in the DHARMA ditch that he "had work to do" by "Taller Ghost Walt".

Also, Shannon was led to her death by Soaked Backwards-talking Walt.

So I think that MiB HAD the ability to be any person, regardless of whether or not they were alive, and was simply lying to Jack saying that he could only look like Locke after he was dead.

What if MiB posed as characters that we knew, while they were still living?

What if MiB could also pose as animals as well, like Kate's horse, Sayid's cat, and Hurley's bird?

interesting idea, the only thing I could see making this not possible is that they always have said walt was special...take that however you will since we haven't been given ANY explanation on it at all.

So I think that MiB HAD the ability to be any person, regardless of whether or not they were alive, and was simply lying to Jack saying that he could only look like Locke after he was dead.

I think Richard suggested the same thing, though?

I think Walt has the ability of Bilocation. Something that was suggested by Bea in 3 minutes, I think?

I think Walt has the ability of Bilocation. Something that was suggested by Bea in 3 minutes, I think?

I don't remember that.

What episode was this implied?

I don't remember that.

What episode was this implied?

3 Minutes:biggrin:

I think it was the episode 3 Minutes...maybe.

She asked Michael if Walt had been in "places he wasn't supposed to be".

I don't remember that.

What episode was this implied?

She asked if he ever showed up in places he wasn't supposed to be. Michael seemed to know what she was talking about and was very troubled by it.

It's an interesting theory, but I just don't see the point of the writers lying about the technicalities of the mysteries to us, especially this late in the game.

Is there any way to differentiate between Suit-Wearing Christian and the other Christian? It seems like both have been accompanied by whispers, yeah? Why would Smokey change clothes?

Is there any way to differentiate between Suit-Wearing Christian and the other Christian? It seems like both have been accompanied by whispers, yeah? Why would Smokey change clothes?

good question! Another question is when did MIB/Locke change from a suite(for funeral) to his usual more LOCKE style clothing.? I have always felt we were seeing two different variations of christian whever he appeared.

I think Walt has the ability of Bilocation.
Then again, the writers said that "there are apparitions of Walt that may not be Walt, and also monster-related." (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Official_Lost_Podcast/March_21,_2008) Way to cover all bases. ^^;

Smocke also says he took Locke's appearance because Jack and his others brought his body on the island, but that didn't seem to be a problem when he impersonated Isabella a few episodes back.


I just don't see the point of the writers lying about the technicalities of the mysteries to us, especially this late in the game.
I don't either. I'm pretty sure those are just inconsistencies.

Another question is when did MIB/Locke change from a suite(for funeral) to his usual more LOCKE style clothing.?
He changed in "Follow the Leader"

"Follow the Leader"
[Sun does not stop, so he follows. When she reaches Richard, Locke steps aside so she can speak with him.]
SUN: Were you here in 1977?
RICHARD: Excuse me?
[She holds the item she retrieved from her pack up to Richard. It is the picture of new DHARMA recruits Christian had shown her at the barracks. She points out three people in particular as she continues.]
SUN: These people... Jack Shephard, Kate Austen, Hugo Reyes. They were here with my husband, Jin Kwon. Were you here? Do you remember them? Any of them?
[After studying the photo for a moment, Richard looks up to her in response.]
RICHARD: Yes, I was here. Thirty years ago. And I do. I remember these people. I remember... meeting them. Very clearly, because... I watched them all die.
Sun speaking with Richard and NotLocke (http://www.losttalk.net/gallery/fullpicture_79828_o.html)
Sun showing the picture of the DI new recruits (http://www.losttalk.net/gallery/fullpicture_79827_o.html)
[cut to intro]

Locke speaking to Sun (http://www.losttalk.net/gallery/fullpicture_79819_o.html)
[Sun is sitting on the beach gazing longingly at Jin's wedding band. The crash of waves hitting the shore provide a steady background noise. Locke arrives and kneels next to her.]
LOCKE: Drink of water?
[Sun does not acknowledge his question, only replies with one of her own.]
SUN: Do you think it's true? They're all dead?
LOCKE: I don't think we went through all this for nothing, Sun.
[Richard walks up to the two of them.]

3 Minutes:biggrin:

Sorry, I thought you were saying it took 3 minutes for Bea to explain it. I couldn't recall an episode where any character explained anything for 3 minutes. ;)

If Walt has the ability of bilocation, then I find it really odd that both he and MiB would use the same words, "Work to do."

UNLESS... *dramatic music* Walt is the MiB.

So I think that MiB HAD the ability to be any person, regardless of whether or not they were alive, and was simply lying to Jack saying that he could only look like Locke after he was dead.


Paraphrasing -
Jack asked " can you only look like dead people"
MIB didnt answer that, he said " What do you really want to ask me?"

Therefore, he avoided telling Jack he CAN look like people that arent dead.

Paraphrasing -
Jack asked " can you only look like dead people"
MIB didnt answer that, he said " What do you really want to ask me?"
Therefore, he avoided telling Jack he CAN look like people that arent dead.
That's a hell of a paraphrase... ^^;

JACK: He had to be dead before you could look like him.
LOCKE: That's right.

I don't remember that.

What episode was this implied?

3 Minutes

A woman, Ms. Klugh, enters.]
MS. KLUGH: Hello, Michael.
MICHAEL: Where's my son?
MS. KLUGH: My name is Ms. Klugh. I was hoping you might help me answer some questions. About Walt.
MICHAEL: Where is he?
MS. KLUGH: Is he your biological son?
MICHAEL: What?
MS. KLUGH: Are you his father?
MICHAEL: Yes, I'm his...
MS. KLUGH: How old was he when he started speaking?
MICHAEL: I, he...
MS. KLUGH: Did he have any illnesses growing up? Headaches? Fainting spells?
MICHAEL: What? No! I don't -- I wasn't there. He was half way around the world. Why are you asking me all these questions?
MS. KLUGH: Did Walt ever appear in a place he wasn't supposed to be? You say he was half way around the world -- did you see him?
MICHAEL: I want my son! You bring him to me right now. I want to see my boy!
MS. KLUGH: For someone who wants his son back so badly, you don't seem to know much about him, Michael.

UNLESS... *dramatic music* Walt is the MiB.

I got this idea too.
He was the one who was reading the comic book about the ET trapped on earth in season 1 ...

I got this idea too.
He was the one who was reading the comic book about the ET trapped on earth in season 1 ...
It was Hurley's comic book so Hurley must have read it too.

I got this idea too.
He was the one who was reading the comic book about the ET trapped on earth in season 1 ...

I also have teh feeling that the last twist will be that. That would explain:

1) Why we still don't know his name

2) Why we might have not seen his 'real' form yet

3) Walt's never explained specialness

4) The Others''s fear of Walt's capabilities



And hell of a new way to look at the Backgammon scene from Season 1!;)

I never understood why they threw in that bit with Walt telling Locke, off-island, that he dreamed of him and in that dream people wanted to hurt Locke. We know now that wasn't even Locke that Walt saw in his dream. It was Smoke. Looking back, it just doesn't make sense. It didn't help Locke in any way. In the dream Walt can sense that Locke is in danger, but he can't sense that it's not even really Locke?

I never understood why they threw in that bit with Walt telling Locke, off-island, that he dreamed of him and in that dream people wanted to hurt Locke. We know now that wasn't even Locke that Walt saw in his dream. It was Smoke. Looking back, it just doesn't make sense. It didn't help Locke in any way. In the dream Walt can sense that Locke is in danger, but he can't sense that it's not even really Locke?

well, if it was really just a dream, it is only visual...He looked like Locke, so he assumed it was Locke...

The ironic part is that he might have dreamed about HIMSELF without even realizing....;)

I know, but with all of Walt's supposed specialness, in the end is it just run of the mill ESP? Doesn't it seem like there should have been more to that? His specialness never paid off in any way .

I know, but with all of Walt's supposed specialness, in the end is it just run of the mill ESP? Doesn't it seem like there should have been more to that? His specialness never paid off in any way .

That is true. That is exaclty why I am digging the theory of MiB being Walt.What better pay off?

Don't look at me. I thought for sure he was Abaddon in some twist of time. At one point, I had just about all the Losties cast as older versions of themselves throughout their flashbacks pushing themselves to resolve something.

I got this idea too.
He was the one who was reading the comic book about the ET trapped on earth in season 1 ...

I also have teh feeling that the last twist will be that. That would explain:

1) Why we still don't know his name

2) Why we might have not seen his 'real' form yet

3) Walt's never explained specialness

4) The Others''s fear of Walt's capabilities

Just out of interest, have you two read the second part of Faster Friends that follows Walt's issue?

Just out of interest, have you two read the second part of Faster Friends that follows Walt's issue?

no I haven't. Anything interesting?

no I haven't. Anything interesting?

I'll pm you. See what you think. :cool:

I also have teh feeling that the last twist will be that. That would explain:

1) Why we still don't know his name

2) Why we might have not seen his 'real' form yet

3) Walt's never explained specialness

4) The Others''s fear of Walt's capabilities



And hell of a new way to look at the Backgammon scene from Season 1!;)

But Walt's Mom wasn't/isn't crazy...

-ik
100%
I never understood why they threw in that bit with Walt telling Locke, off-island, that he dreamed of him and in that dream people wanted to hurt Locke. We know now that wasn't even Locke that Walt saw in his dream. It was Smoke. Looking back, it just doesn't make sense. It didn't help Locke in any way. In the dream Walt can sense that Locke is in danger, but he can't sense that it's not even really Locke?

Good call, misstep by the writers?

-ik :confused:

good question! Another question is when did MIB/Locke change from a suite(for funeral) to his usual more LOCKE style clothing.? I have always felt we were seeing two different variations of christian whever he appeared.

I've been wondering whether Jacob can also assume forms - just because we haven't seen him do it does not mean he doesn't have that power. We know he has been taking a more direct interest in the candidates then the "hands off" approach he implied to Richard - he ventured off island and spoke with/touched the candidates directly. He's been having conversations with Hurley. So perhaps Jacob has assumed Christian's form in the past, and appeared to either Locke or Jack or Claire.

I know MIB said it was him in White Rabbit. And I know this was presented as a definitive answer for the casual viewer who has been following along since season 1. But we know MIB lies. For example, MIB told Jacob he would kill the candidates in order to be free, yet all season MIB has been telling the candidates they're all going to leave the island together (with the implication being the candidates will live to enjoy this process). So I think MIB was lying when he said it was him who assumed Christian's form for Jack. Thus, Christian in his burial suit, and Christian in his work cloths and boots - too different spirits using the same form.

But Walt's Mom wasn't/isn't crazy...

Not in the original timeline....;)