View Full Version : Has anyone noticed how many daddy issues there are?
stonepuppy 12-08-2004, 11:20 PM Claire-Thomas made the statement to her "No I get hit with all of your daddy abandonment issues"
Claire's Baby-Thomas ran out on him
Walt-was abandoned by Michael
Sun's-father controlled her life as well as that of Jin
Sawyer’s-father killed his mother and the committed suicide
Jack-no need to explain this one
Kate-spoke very fondly of the time she spent in the woods with her father-made me think either he is dead or their relationship had some serious issues.
There maybe others that I am missing but even if these are the only ones that have come out so far it still seems like more than coincidence.
kaidysoft 12-08-2004, 11:25 PM Claire-Thomas made the statement to her "No I get hit with all of your daddy abandonment issues"
Claire's Baby-Thomas ran out on him
Walt-was abandoned by Michael
Sun's-father controlled her life as well as that of Jin
Sawyer’s-father killed his mother and the committed suicide
Jack-no need to explain this one
Kate-spoke very fondly of the time she spent in the woods with her father-made me think either he is dead or their relationship had some serious issues.
There maybe others that I am missing but even if these are the only ones that have come out so far it still seems like more than coincidence.
Walt - mentioned his other dad (Brian)
Boone - mentioned running his MOTHER's business...where is dad?no mention
that's all i have to add!
nice post!
kaidy
Prncssleia 12-08-2004, 11:35 PM Reminds me of The Stand...most of the main characters had a parent or parents die when they were young...
Stephanie
babygotbackgammon 12-09-2004, 08:44 AM Claire-Thomas made the statement to her "No I get hit with all of your daddy abandonment issues"
Claire's Baby-Thomas ran out on him
Walt-was abandoned by Michael
Sun's-father controlled her life as well as that of Jin
Sawyer’s-father killed his mother and the committed suicide
Jack-no need to explain this one
Kate-spoke very fondly of the time she spent in the woods with her father-made me think either he is dead or their relationship had some serious issues.
There maybe others that I am missing but even if these are the only ones that have come out so far it still seems like more than coincidence.
It has not been said anywhere that Michael abandoned Walt. In fact, I (and others) are under the impression that Walt was TAKEN from Michael - hence the mom-on-the-run dealie.
Sherry 12-09-2004, 09:00 AM I don't think Kate was very fond of her time with her father in the woods. She said it was a "religion" with him and that makes me think she didn't like it.
hello earth 12-09-2004, 10:00 AM I don't think Kate was very fond of her time with her father in the woods. She said it was a "religion" with him and that makes me think she didn't like it.
I agree, the look on her face and the tone in her voice made me think that she would have preferred to be anywhere else. Plus, she said something like "we spent eight hours tracking a deer once" which sounds pretty extreme. I'm sure when we have Kate's next episode her relationship with her father is going to provide some explanation for what she has done in the past.
FlarnChef 12-09-2004, 10:37 AM I don't think Kate was very fond of her time with her father in the woods. She said it was a "religion" with him and that makes me think she didn't like it.
I agree Sherry, and I feel that the way she was saying it 'was like a religion with him,' it included her not being a welcome member of that church. (so to speak)
girlspy15 12-09-2004, 12:52 PM Excellent point stonepuppy. There does seem to be a rather large number of characters w/father issues. Normally I would say that's it's not all that uncommon nowdays, seeing as I myself grew up in single parent home, raised by my mom, but there's just too many to be a coincidence. And about the Kate thing. I too agree that I dont think she was fond of going out with her father. I have a feeling he could be part of the reason she was wanted by the Marshall. I dont know much about deer hunting, but I dont think the deer are smart enough to leave a dummy trail. I think Kate left alot out of her little story.
PhillyGirl2873 12-09-2004, 01:08 PM Reminds me of The Stand...most of the main characters had a parent or parents die when they were young...
Stephanie
I read that the Stand was one of the influences of the show (along with Watership Down and the Tempest).* I just assumed the good versus evil obvious connection, but you may have something.
DarthKosh 12-09-2004, 01:11 PM Reminds me of The Stand...most of the main characters had a parent or parents die when they were young...
Stephanie
Most Stephan King characters have daddy issues. Kings father skipped out on him that is why his characters have daddy issues.
omickey 12-09-2004, 02:30 PM I have a feeling he could be part of the reason she was wanted by the Marshall. I dont know much about deer hunting, but I dont think the deer are smart enough to leave a dummy trail. I think Kate left alot out of her little story.
BAHAHA! You're so right. My dad is the famous Great White Hunter, I grew up doing this and I've never seen an animal leave a dummy trail. Double back...but never a false trail. Kate was a hunter of another kind...no pun intended...
CharliesGal 12-12-2004, 10:23 PM I think this is an interesting idea that should be explored further. I am anxious to see some back story on Shannon or Boone, because maybe they will show something about their parents. I am most interested in seeing how these siblings are so different.
Maybe the daddy issues will become important. I wonder what kind of relationship Hurley had with his dad. I can't wait to see his episode too!!!!
Ophelia 12-12-2004, 10:32 PM Did someone already mention that Claire has Daddy issues too? Papa and BabyDaddy problems!
Sarahleigh 12-12-2004, 11:33 PM I wonder if a lot of writers have Daddy issues. Maybe that's what drives them to write?
Ophelia 12-12-2004, 11:40 PM I have a father I barely know, who barely knows me and hates everything about me and I write all the time. In fact, I was going to make it my profession. Does it drive me? No, not on the surface. Possibly, the experiances I have lacked from having a real father give me gas to go to the darker side of life, to explore spirtuality, to fascinate over the dramatic. But drive me? No. Not really.
pants 12-12-2004, 11:42 PM all Disney characters in all Disney films have Daddy issues. Disney owns ABC. you see? you see the connection? Hemingway had a Daddy problem, too.
just kidding.
i think.
Cardielost 12-13-2004, 09:36 AM Freud was probably onto something with that Oedipus complex theme. :lol2:
Seriously, though, dysfunctional families, and particularly conflicts between sons and fathers, are the bread and butter of American story-telling, for whatever reason.
Cardie
CharliesGal 12-13-2004, 08:16 PM I wonder if a lot of writers have Daddy issues. Maybe that's what drives them to write?
Well, I'm a writer (an author, a creative writing teacher, and a journalist) and I have a very good relationship with my daddy. We've always been close. I have a great relationship with my mom, too. But it is possible that some of the writers of the show have daddy issues and that's why they wrote that into the show. Come to think of it, on Alias, JJ Abrams' other awesome show, Sidney has daddy issues as well. She also has mommy issues too, though. Does JJ Abrams have daddy issues? I don't know, but it would be interesting to find out! lol
WOW ~ You all brought up some excellent new things for my brain to dwell on. I have read The Stand and Watership Down and knowing that those books influenced this show is very cool to know. There are alot of Daddy issues going on and it will be interesting to see if this means something down the line. Excellent thinking fellow LostNuts!
AlaneSue 12-13-2004, 09:11 PM Disney characters also tend to have dead mothers. When I rented "Finding Nemo," I said to myself that it figured that fish mom wouldn't make it through the credits.
Alane
AlaneSue 12-13-2004, 09:20 PM Freud was probably onto something with that Oedipus complex theme.* :lol2:
Seriously, though, dysfunctional families, and particularly conflicts between sons and fathers, are the bread and butter of American story-telling, for whatever reason.
Cardie
I don't think any group of characters had more issues with their fathers than those on "Buffy" and "Angel."
One other thing I've noticed about "Lost"* is that the characters aren't really fretting about anyone "back home" being worried about them. I guess that makes sense given the backstories we've seen. But you don't hear anyone that broken up about worrying loved ones. Boone was pretty nonchalant about his mother.
Alane
CharliesGal 12-13-2004, 11:13 PM AlaneSue,
You just made an excellent point. By this time, the survivors would be thinking about the people back home. Obviously they are not that concerned about how they are going to survive, since they have the basics for survival (food, water, shelter) They have all this time on their hands, sitting on the beach or in the caves, and no one has said anything about missing their families or wondering if their families are doing okay without them.
Which brings up something else interesting. I wonder if any of our survivors are married to people who were not on the plane? If they begin to believe they will never be rescued, will they feel comfortable hooking up with someone on the island or will they stay faithful to their spouses? What about other family members who were not on the plane, such as children or parents (as in Shannon and Boone's parents or parent, whichever applies)
And you're right, Buffy and Angel characters had serious daddy issues, especially the guys.
TerryLost 12-13-2004, 11:34 PM CharliesGirl makes an excellent point. Surely some of our survivors have family or someone important to them back home, someone to miss them. Maybe we will find out in some of the new backstories? And no one on the island (at least that I recall) has made any sort of speculation that the folks back home may think that no one survived the crash.
No one's worried about their spouses, kids, pets, friends, jobs?
desertislandgirl 12-14-2004, 01:01 PM Well, as much as I'd like to keep viewing all the characters as real people (and really, I do!) I do want to point out that it makes for a better show about being stranded on a desert island if people aren't torn up about the people back home that, let's face it, they probably aren't going to see again during the duration of the show. I mean, if they all go home and get reunited, the show is basically over because they wouldn't be Lost anymore. ;) I just think it works better if they are all focused on their survival and each other - and the writers have set it up for us to believe that they aren't all here by accident. If they are cherry picked for some reason, it's not that far of a jump to assume that part of that reason is no big regrets over who they've left behind.
CharliesGal 12-14-2004, 02:14 PM Well, that makes sense, in a way.* I suppose one of the reasons they were picked could be because no one would really miss them.* Either their family walked out on them or they walked out on their family.* Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it true (so far) that the only married couple we know of that both survived is Jin and Sun?* I mean, they weren't the only married couple on the plane (Rose and her husband were traveling together) but they are the only ones who both survived (that we know of right now.)* I also find it interesting that the only other pair of related survivors are a brother and sister (we all know who.)* I wonder if that has anything to do with anything or if it is a random coincidence.*
I don't really want to see them mourning over those they miss, but at least some comment about the "folks back home" would be nice.*
As for issues with other family members, it looks like Jack has a complicated relationship with his mother too.* But I bet she misses him.* And Charlie's brother probably is wondering where he is.* He really seemed to care about Charlie.*
The last post before this one reminded me of the movie "The Net."* They were able to "disappear" her because they knew no one would miss her.* I suppose it's possible that the same thing applies here, especially if you believe the experiment theory.* If they are all on the island for some strange experiment, they would want to choose people who wouldn't be missed so no one would look for them, right?
... If they are all on the island for some strange experiment, they would want to choose people who wouldn't be missed so no one would look for them, right?
The people may not be missed (although I'm sure Jin and Sun would be by her father).* However in real life, whoever owns the plane, as well as the international media would definately pick up on the fact that a plane that size, and with so many people aboard has gone missing.* Of course we aren't shown any people NOT on the plane after it went down, so we have no idea what anyone else is really thinking about it.
WhiteSapphire 12-14-2004, 02:29 PM The people may not be missed (although I'm sure Jin and Sun would be by her father). However in real life, whoever owns the plane, as well as the international media would definately pick up on the fact that a plane that size, and with so many people aboard has gone missing. Of course we aren't shown any people NOT on the plane after it went down, so we have no idea what anyone else is really thinking about it.
I guess that's why they threw in the "We were 1000 miles off course" thing: to explain why no one's come looking for them.
I guess that's why they threw in the "We were 1000 miles off course" thing: to explain why no one's come looking for them.
I agree.* It's not that they aren't missed, it's just that they "don't know where to look".
desertislandgirl 12-14-2004, 03:30 PM Or, maybe they found part of the wreckage and assume the rest of the plane is at the bottom of the ocean and have stopped looking?
AlaneSue 12-14-2004, 08:44 PM I don't really want to see them mourning over those they miss, but at least some comment about the "folks back home" would be nice.*
As for issues with other family members, it looks like Jack has a complicated relationship with his mother too.* But I bet she misses him.* And Charlie's brother probably is wondering where he is.* He really seemed to care about Charlie.*
Let's not leave out Sun's dog! Surely, it misses her. :)
Another thing that occurs to me is that in every group there's a least one person who thinks he/she is indispensible to his/her company -- that everything will now fall apart without him/her. It seems there ought to be someone like that in this group.
Alane
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