John Locke said early after arriving on the island "I looked into the eye of the island and what I saw was beautiful".. I believe he saw the light and somehow very early on he became a convert.

Thoughts?

I agree, that's the first thing I thought when young MiB said "It's beautiful" about the light.

That's exactly what I was thinking. And later on in "The Cost of Living", Locke explained more of that to Eko, that he saw a very bright light and that it was beautiful. Little MIB was basically saying the exact same thing that Locke said to Eko.

I honestly was losing hope and didn't expect the writers to touch on what Locke really saw in Walkabout, so this was a really pleasing scene for me.

Yea but how would he see the light? Its a giant blacksmoke that weve never seen being anything but dark and black. How would it be a bright light?

Well, how did the light rise all above the trees?!

Do not twist the facts to suit theories, plot holes & shoddy writing, my dear Watson. :-P

Good call. I think maybe he found the heart of the Island and smokey was there, so he saw both at the same time.

Well, how did the light rise all above the trees?!

Do not twist the facts to suit theories, plot holes & shoddy writing, my dear Watson. :-P

It didn't? He could simply have been led to the light by the smoke.

I completely agree. As soon as I heard that line, I thought of John Locke saying that in season 1.


John Locke said early after arriving on the island "I looked into the eye of the island and what I saw was beautiful".. I believe he saw the light and somehow very early on he became a convert.

Thoughts?

I was hoping what Locke saw was some sort of image (like when Smokey scanned Eko) of a flashsideways in which he is marrying Helen, which would tie in to Smokey's promises to people he meets.
But I guess it's probably the light.

Wasn't he talking about the monster? And Eko says "that is not what I saw"

When Smokie is born the light from the cave vanishes. Smokie is the light.

Listening to a podcast and a thought I had was mentioned there as well so I thought I'd post it here and see what you all think. When Locke was confronted with Smokey way back when and he said he saw the eye of the island and it was beautiful, was he shown the well of light we saw last night? And if so, to what end? Did the MIB recognize his loophole in Locke at that point?

Like many others, that's a valid question. The problem is: it will stay as a question forever. It's clear now that the authors are not willing to give any definitive answer on what's the Island. They just want us to spend the rest of our miserable lives theorizing on the nature of the smoke monster, of the light, of the Island, etc.

Well, I'll not do that, and I'll not encourage that.

Like many others, that's a valid question. The problem is: it will stay as a question forever. It's clear now that the authors are not willing to give any definitive answer on what's the Island. They just want us to spend the rest of our miserable lives theorizing on the nature of the smoke monster, of the light, of the Island, etc.

Well, I'll not do that, and I'll not encourage that.

Good enough, and I respect your opinion, however, that's not the nature of my post. If you'd rather not theorize, don't. I'm more interested in what people may think of this regardless of whether or not we'll get a definitive answer. Kind regards.

I think there has to be something to it.

Seems to be a lot of people who think the light disappeared when smokie was "born". It didn't, we see it everytime someone turns the donkey wheel, so Locke could well have found it.

John Locke will end up the protector of the island! That will fulfill the prophetic statement he made.

But was the reason for showing him the light simply a means to an end...a way to finally leave? My admittedly loose understanding of the game is that if the island has a protector he cannot leave, so what would be the purpose of showing Locke this light?

Locke has always been the smoke monster I thought that was clear especially after last night. When there at the caves don't you see his face when he says we have our own Adam & Eve, he looks like he knows that was him a long time ago. Also Tabula Rasa at the end when everyone is happy and they go to Locke his look says it all. Locke has never been alive. Lastly think about it he has never wanted anyone to leave so he could get rid of them all so he could be free.

Locke has always been the smoke monster I thought that was clear especially after last night. When there at the caves don't you see his face when he says we have our own Adam & Eve, he looks like he knows that was him a long time ago. Also Tabula Rasa at the end when everyone is happy and they go to Locke his look says it all. Locke has never been alive. Lastly think about it he has never wanted anyone to leave so he could get rid of them all so he could be free.

There's a possiblity that Locke knew more than he was letting on in Season 1 but I think it was a false sense of knowledge - we saw him break down and get more and more confused as he realised he didn't understand the island and all the time, since arriving on the island has been being manipulated by MIB and primed as an ideal body to use to kill Jacob.

His flashbacks and sideways prove he is a real person.

There's a possiblity that Locke knew more than he was letting on in Season 1 but I think it was a false sense of knowledge - we saw him break down and get more and more confused as he realised he didn't understand the island and all the time, since arriving on the island has been being manipulated by MIB and primed as an ideal body to use to kill Jacob.

His flashbacks and sideways prove he is a real person.

I don't doubt he was a real person and his centrics could all be produced as smokie scanning him and he would know his thoughts, memories, and life. Both their Mom's are crazy, their both special I think there was a little MIB mixed in those flash backs. As far as Locke getting frustrated with the island to prove he is real, if you were strained there a couple of hundred years your frustration would show as well.