Is the sideways Jacob's final 'gift' to all the candidates who died during all those years?

I think that the sideways could be the result of Desmond becoming the failsafe key in Jacob's last resort plan.

Yes, it seems to be the parting gift like on the game shows. But is everyone going to make it there? I'm still not sure why the FS is in a different year.

Only one Universe can live.....

its schrodinger's cat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger's_cat) one of these universes will die ..wants the Observer Observes.

but which one? it was hinted by Charlie in the ALTiverse that they arent suppose to be there and at times that ALTiverse did seem wrong,

but just maybe it indeed is the one that is suppose to live

Just maybe we will see the Island rise from bottom of the Ocean?

Only one Universe can live.....

its schrodinger's cat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger's_cat) one of these universes will die ..wants the Observer Observes.

but which one? it was hinted by Charlie in the ALTiverse that they arent suppose to be there and at times that ALTiverse did seem wrong,

but just maybe it indeed is the one that is suppose to live

Just maybe we will see the Island rise from bottom of the Ocean?


It is like Jacob saying 'Ok, if my brother Smokie does in fact escapes the island because he manages to kill all the candidates, at least, all these souls I am responsible for will have a second chance somewhere else, somewhere else where I can't mess with their lives. So they wouldn't have died in vain....'

Yes, it seems to be the parting gift like on the game shows. But is everyone going to make it there? I'm still not sure why the FS is in a different year.


I like the idea of this being Jacob's gift, and I hope it is. I just have a nagging problem rationalizing that idea with the idea of the destruction of the Island being a good thing. Unless, of course, it turns out that the Island itself is evil.

The reason, imo, that the FS is in 2004 is because the entirety of the on island events occur in a time loop due to the events of season 5. As such, there are only two ways out of said loop, through forward time, like we are seeing on the island, and through backward, which would be the point of entry to the anomaly, which is the crash of O815. We're seeing both exit points, but can the FS exist without the destruction of the Island?

I like the idea of this being Jacob's gift, and I hope it is. I just have a nagging problem rationalizing that idea with the idea of the destruction of the Island being a good thing. Unless, of course, it turns out that the Island itself is evil.

The reason, imo, that the FS is in 2004 is because the entirety of the on island events occur in a time loop due to the events of season 5. As such, there are only two ways out of said loop, through forward time, like we are seeing on the island, and through backward, which would be the point of entry to the anomaly, which is the crash of O815. We're seeing both exit points, but can the FS exist without the destruction of the Island?

I believe that the Light that is housed by the Island is way too powerful to be just there available to everyone who can manage to get a hold of it....

I believe that the Light that is housed by the Island is way too powerful to be just there available to everyone who can manage to get a hold of it....


Obviously...hence the need for a 2000 year old plan to circumvent all the protective mechanisms that had been set into place by who knows what. That it is hard to get at isn't in question. What is in question is the validity of the Sideways. The Island is destroyed in the sideways, we've been shown that. A bomb in the exotic material was not enough to destroy the island. We've been shown that as well. This episode told us that Desmond was the key to destroying the Island. So...the question is, is this reality that all our characters are in, a reality in which the Island must have been destroyed as it has been explained to us, a reality in which none of these horrible things that we've been told (everyone you know will cease to exist, etc) are not going to occur? If it is indeed a reality that will be a happily ever after, it was apparently Jacob's gift. My problem is that Jacob is on the side of the Island, and the Island is gone in the FS. So it's one way or the other. Like the OP, I hope it is Jacob's gift, but that would mean that what we've been told about the light is either wrong, or misdirection.

Is the sideways Jacob's final 'gift' to all the candidates who died during all those years?

I think that the sideways could be the result of Desmond becoming the failsafe key in Jacob's last resort plan.


Fierro, I get so frustrated with you sometimes. ;) Two sentences, and you've got my head spinning around. I found this thread stuffed all the way back on page 5. I could have escaped....

I have to think about this a little more, but I just wanted to post it to the front of the board so we could get some input from some other people as well. As usual, Enigma has a few good points as well.

I'm getting the feeling that everyone on the island including Jacob is coming to the consensus that the island does not need to exist. But I think that the only way to kill Smokey AND destroy the island safely is the join them together again. Smokey must go back into the HEART of the island. He must not be allowed to destroy the Light before he is put back.

Fierro, I get so frustrated with you sometimes. ;) Two sentences, and you've got my head spinning around. I found this thread stuffed all the way back on page 5. I could have escaped....

I have to think about this a little more, but I just wanted to post it to the front of the board so we could get some input from some other people as well. As usual, Enigma has a few good points as well.

I'm getting the feeling that everyone on the island including Jacob is coming to the consensus that the island does not need to exist. But I think that the only way to kill Smokey AND destroy the island safely is the join them together again. Smokey must go back into the HEART of the island. He must not be allowed to destroy the Light before he is put back.
thanks for bringing it to the front page!

You know? It is funny, Smokie is actually some kind of a 'ghost' in the sense that he doesn't have a physical body of his own anymore. It is just a soul without its body which is capable of manifest itself as a black cloud of smoke as oppposed to a regular ghost such as michael and the rest of the whisperers. But he IS a ghost nonetheless.


The reason why it is able to be a Smoke Creature is simply the fact that he came into contact with the Light. So the Light (whatever it is, being magical or exotic matter) is part of him.

Mother said that there is a 'little bit' of this Light in every person, but that people always want more....I think that Smokie has a LOT of it 'inside' of him and that is why he is so dangerous to the world.

It is possible that the reason why Smokie is black is because he acts as some kind of 'black body' for this very special light. A good amount of this light is trapped inside him and is fueling his soul. But this light can't escape because he absorbed it, keeping it at bay...

Jacob suspects that he can be killed and that they are gonna achieve that if Desmond and Jack work together....

Is the sideways Jacob's final 'gift'...
Well, now it could be Jack's gift, yeah?

If this is the case, what do you think Desmond's (and now Hurley's) plan is? Are they trying to stop this world for existing?

And since it's in the past, from where we are now (or at least it's what we've been viewing) is it more like... here's your lives if Jacob never intervened? I

Well, now it could be Jack's gift, yeah?

yes. I think Jack will sacrifice himself in the end because that will be the only way to stop FLocke before it is too late.
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If this is the case, what do you think Desmond's (and now Hurley's) plan is? Are they trying to stop this world for existing?

And since it's in the past, from where we are now (or at least it's what we've been viewing) is it more like... here's your lives if Jacob never intervened? I

This is, I think, Jacob's plan in motion already. Desmond is implementing it in the sideways to make sure Flocke CAN'T CROSS OVER.

Jacob knew about Flocke wanting to cross into the sideways via The Light. This is why he said that Desmond is a failsafe in case he managed to kill all the candidates and found the Light. If all is lost in the Original to stop Flocke, then they have to make sure he can't 'open' the gateway on the other side, aka the sideways.

HOW he is planning on doing that, I have NO idea, mostly because I don't know WHAT or WHO the gateway is....

The reason why it is able to be a Smoke Creature is simply the fact that he came into contact with the Light. So the Light (whatever it is, being magical or exotic matter) is part of him.

Mother said that there is a 'little bit' of this Light in every person, but that people always want more....I think that Smokie has a LOT of it 'inside' of him and that is why he is so dangerous to the world.

It is possible that the reason why Smokie is black is because he acts as some kind of 'black body' for this very special light. A good amount of this light is trapped inside him and is fueling his soul. But this light can't escape because he absorbed it, keeping it at bay...


Here are my thoughts on this. Mother said that the Light and the heart of the island was LIFE, DEATH, and REBIRTH. She also said that to go into the light would be a fate worse than death. When MIB was thrown into the Light, he LIVED, but he was REBORN as DEATH with a trapped human soul. A fate worse than death?

As long as Smokey / MIB stays on the island, the balance of the LIGHT remains intact. If Smokey leaves the island, the LIGHT of LIFE and REBIRTH go out, and all that remains is DEATH. MIB is free. He dies, but so does everyone else.

I'm still working on the rest ....

Also, I didn't like Jacob's story that he brought them to the island because they were flawed. They were flawed BECAUSE of Jacob interferring in their lives. Isn't that what the sideways world is supposed to be? What their lives would be like with NO Jacob? It just adds more fuel to your theory that the sideways world may indeed be a gift because Jacob not only brought them to the island, but he made their lives miserable enough to begin with to warrant bringing them to the island. And if anything, Jacob always feels Guilt about what he has done.

Also, I didn't like Jacob's story that he brought them to the island because they were flawed. They were flawed BECAUSE of Jacob interferring in their lives. Isn't that what the sideways world is supposed to be? What their lives would be like with NO Jacob? It just adds for fuel to your theory that the sideways world may indeed be a gift because Jacob not only brought them to the island, but he made their lives miserable enough to begin with to warrant bringing them to the island.

They were flawed mostly because of Daddy Issues. All of them...

Ironically, Jacob didn't meet his father....

I always thought of the FSW as an alternate timeline for Jacob to hide the candidates, as a way to protect them. Another failsafe, so to speak. Something MIB isn't aware of. That's why Desmond is so calm and cool about running people down, bludgeoning people in public, and getting arrested. None of that world matters.

As much as I'd like to believe that LOST will have a happy ending, I think it's much more likely to be bittersweet. The war is here, the sides have been set, and the objectives of each side have been spelled out. Jacob wants the MiB's head on a platter, and the MiB wants to get the hell out of Dodge (after destroying the island, of course). I don't think we can have it both ways. Preservation of the island timeline depends upon elimination of the MiB. Should this fail, the MiB will get his freedom and the island will meet her doom (sideways timeline, anyone?). And if the island is destroyed, then the light will be extinguished, and God help us all.

Desmond, as LOST's Black Swan, will either be used by Team Jacob to kill the MiB, or by Smokey as his ticket off the island. But, as Jacob has ordained, he will have some choice in his own destiny. His role as a Black Swan also seems to involve the awakening of his fellow lostaways in the sideways timeline, and their summoning to a certain concert (talk about eye-opening experiences ;)).

As much as I'd like to believe that LOST will have a happy ending, I think it's much more likely to be bittersweet. The war is here, the sides have been set, and the objectives of each side have been spelled out. Jacob wants the MiB's head on a platter, and the MiB wants to get the hell out of Dodge (after destroying the island, of course). I don't think we can have it both ways. Preservation of the island timeline depends upon elimination of the MiB. Should this fail, the MiB will get his freedom and the island will meet her doom (sideways timeline, anyone?). And if the island is destroyed, then the light will be extinguished, and God help us all.

Desmond, as LOST's Black Swan, will either be used by Team Jacob to kill the MiB, or by Smokey as his ticket off the island. But, as Jacob has ordained, he will have some choice in his own destiny. His role as a Black Swan also seems to involve the awakening of his fellow lostaways in the sideways timeline, and their summoning to a certain concert (talk about eye-opening experiences ;)).


Jacob said that Jack's job was to protect the light from the Monster. That's it.

If the Monster destroys the Light, without being reconstituted with it, there will be hell to pay..literally. Death will spread because all Life and Rebirth will be extinguished when the light goes out. The Monster can not be allowed to leave the Island, MIB's soul must be set free, and Monster Death must return to the heart of the island. And then the island must be destroyed.

There is only Catastrophe if the island is destroyed without all three elements placed back into the heart of the island. My opinion is, once the island has been sunk into the ocean, the Light will find a new home. Remember how the candidates always had to be "together" to accomplish certain things? I think that all three elements of the Light, LIFE, DEATH, and REBIRTH, must all be put back together again in order for the light to move on.

Destination - Sideways world.

Recipient - Sideways Island

Guardian - Jack Shephard (from Original timeline??)

sunken island is from original timeline.

There is a hilarious spoof video Totally Lost with Mark Pellegrino and Titus Welliver over at Doc Jensen's site:

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/05/18/lost-what-they-died-for-doc-jensen/

(The video is at the bottom and is spoiler free)

There is a hilarious spoof video Totally Lost with Mark Pellegrino and Titus Welliver over at Doc Jensen's site:

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/05/18/lost-what-they-died-for-doc-jensen/

(The video is at the bottom and is spoiler free)

that is freaking amazing!!!:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

I don't think there are spoilers, but they seem to have a lot of 'inside' information to interpret the show...It is worth a watch, no douibt about that....

Jacob even said that Mother was supposed to use water from the stream instead of wine, like he did with Jack....

that is freaking amazing!!!:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

This is a better link:

http://www.ew.com/ew/video/0,,20313460_20313475,00.html?bcpid=75281507001&bclid=64100614001&bctid=86386095001

And make sure you watch all five clips the last two are the best ones!

thanks for bringing it to the front page!

You know? It is funny, Smokie is actually some kind of a 'ghost' in the sense that he doesn't have a physical body of his own anymore. It is just a soul without its body which is capable of manifest itself as a black cloud of smoke as oppposed to a regular ghost such as michael and the rest of the whisperers. But he IS a ghost nonetheless.


The reason why it is able to be a Smoke Creature is simply the fact that he came into contact with the Light. So the Light (whatever it is, being magical or exotic matter) is part of him.

Mother said that there is a 'little bit' of this Light in every person, but that people always want more....I think that Smokie has a LOT of it 'inside' of him and that is why he is so dangerous to the world.

It is possible that the reason why Smokie is black is because he acts as some kind of 'black body' for this very special light. A good amount of this light is trapped inside him and is fueling his soul. But this light can't escape because he absorbed it, keeping it at bay...

Jacob suspects that he can be killed and that they are gonna achieve that if Desmond and Jack work together....

Interesting ideas here. Don't forget that the "light" is electro magnetism. The guy who was part of Widmore's crew was fried by the EM in the box. I think Brother was also fried when Jacob sent him floating down into the EM light. All that was left of Brother after being fried by the EM "light" was black smoke...hence Smokey.

Jack's attempts to protect the light may not work and failsafe Desmond will have to take Flocke into that "light" to destroy him completely. The result of that could be what destroys the island.

IDK, just babbling here and trying to make sense out of it after posting in another thread that you can't make sense of Lost. :redface::a015:

Interesting ideas here. Don't forget that the "light" is electro magnetism. The guy who was part of Widmore's crew was fried by the EM in the box. I think Brother was also fried when Jacob sent him floating down into the EM light. All that was left of Brother after being fried by the EM "light" was black smoke...hence Smokey.

Jack's attempts to protect the light may not work and failsafe Desmond will have to take Flocke into that "light" to destroy him completely. The result of that could be what destroys the island.

IDK, just babbling here and trying to make sense out of it after posting in another thread that you can't make sense of Lost. :redface::a015:

I think that from the moment they brought Desmond as a failsafe is because they ARE gonna use him as such....

Interesting ideas here. Don't forget that the "light" is electro magnetism. The guy who was part of Widmore's crew was fried by the EM in the box. I think Brother was also fried when Jacob sent him floating down into the EM light. All that was left of Brother after being fried by the EM "light" was black smoke...hence Smokey.

Jack's attempts to protect the light may not work and failsafe Desmond will have to take Flocke into that "light" to destroy him completely. The result of that could be what destroys the island.

IDK, just babbling here and trying to make sense out of it after posting in another thread that you can't make sense of Lost. :redface::a015:

I like your idea of the Black Smoke as a representation of MIB being "fried". However, we did see his body come out of the other end of the cave, and he wasn't so fried. His soul was definitely separated from his body, and was attached to a part of that Light ever since. I could be wrong about it being attached to the "death" part. It just makes sense in the whole death to the world scenario if MIB leaves the island.

I'm just trying to figure out how you separate a soul from a smoke monster. Many people keep pointing out that Miles has never spoken to MIB, but I'm really skeptical that that's all it would take. I'm thinking...Desmond type powers, and Jack type powers....not Miles with a knife he probably doesn't have.
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I think that from the moment they brought Desmond as a failsafe is because they ARE gonna use him as such....


OH YEAH..:biggrin: But I'm telling ya... If they do that with MIB's help - because MIB is so eager now to blow up the island..MIB will live on...

I may be remembering wrong, but I thought that the Island Guardian had the privilege of making the "rules" or changing them. Once Jacob's ashes fade out, Jack will be the official keeper of the Light, so he could make the rules. With Desmond's help, perhaps they can release a huge burst of energy that simultaneously sinks the island, and disburses the Light to each person, facilitating a lovely, light-filled Sideways reality that becomes the "true" path. Maybe the light doesn't HAVE to stay on the island. That might have been Mother's rule, but it may not be Jack's.

I like your idea of the Black Smoke as a representation of MIB being "fried". However, we did see his body come out of the other end of the cave, and he wasn't so fried. His soul was definitely separated from his body, and was attached to a part of that Light ever since. I could be wrong about it being attached to the "death" part. It just makes sense in the whole death to the world scenario if MIB leaves the island.

I'm just trying to figure out how you separate a soul from a smoke monster. Many people keep pointing out that Miles has never spoken to MIB, but I'm really skeptical that that's all it would take. I'm thinking...Desmond type powers, and Jack type powers....not Miles with a knife he probably doesn't have.
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OH YEAH..:biggrin: But I'm telling ya... If they do that with MIB's help - because MIB is so eager now to blow up the island..MIB will live on...

OK, you're right! His body wasn't fried. :biggrin: But, his soul was. :confused: Fake mother did say the light was life, death and rebirth. I wondered if the results (worse than death) would have been different if Brother hadn't killed his mother?

I'm not sure about not speaking to MIB. I think all it meant was that if you allowed MIB to speak to you there's a good chance he could manipulate you. I don't think Miles is going to save the day.

Let's not forget that Brother thinks that the "light" will take him "home" across the sea to his people. That's why he was going to install the wheel in the well in the first place. So, if Jack can't stop Smokey from going into the light then the failsafe will be Desmond.

I don't have any idea as to what Des will do other than release all the EME and destroy the island as a last resort.

We'll know soon enough. ;)

I may be remembering wrong, but I thought that the Island Guardian had the privilege of making the "rules" or changing them. Once Jacob's ashes fade out, Jack will be the official keeper of the Light, so he could make the rules. With Desmond's help, perhaps they can release a huge burst of energy that simultaneously sinks the island, and disburses the Light to each person, facilitating a lovely, light-filled Sideways reality that becomes the "true" path. Maybe the light doesn't HAVE to stay on the island. That might have been Mother's rule, but it may not be Jack's.

Okay, that sound sounds really good and sensible! :D
I'm going to go take a lavender bubble bath and reflect on LOST for a while.:hypocrit:

I may be remembering wrong, but I thought that the Island Guardian had the privilege of making the "rules" or changing them. Once Jacob's ashes fade out, Jack will be the official keeper of the Light, so he could make the rules. With Desmond's help, perhaps they can release a huge burst of energy that simultaneously sinks the island, and disburses the Light to each person, facilitating a lovely, light-filled Sideways reality that becomes the "true" path. Maybe the light doesn't HAVE to stay on the island. That might have been Mother's rule, but it may not be Jack's.

Now that would be cool, but I'm not anticipating a "happily ever after ending". I don't think Jack can change the "rules" which were passed down from "protector" to "protector". The "rules" were probably passed down from fake mom's mom to her and so forth.

It is like Jacob saying 'Ok, if my brother Smokie does in fact escapes the island because he manages to kill all the candidates, at least, all these souls I am responsible for will have a second chance somewhere else, somewhere else where I can't mess with their lives. So they wouldn't have died in vain....'

But if that's so, from a purely dramatic viewpoint, why would whatever happens on the Island matter if there is an escape hatch to the Alt-verse? What would be the stakes if there is a ready made do-over? The intense emotional impact of the deaths of Sun and Jin in the sub, for instance, would only be fleeting if it ends that they continue to live in the Alt with uploaded Island memories. The same for Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Jack, Desmond (and Ben?) if they die on the Island fighting Smocke, as well as original Locke's death.

But if that's so, from a purely dramatic viewpoint, why would whatever happens on the Island matter if there is an escape hatch to the Alt-verse? What would be the stakes if there is a ready made do-over? The intense emotional impact of the deaths of Sun and Jin in the sub, for instance, would only be fleeting if it ends that they continue to live in the Alt with uploaded Island memories. The same for Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Jack, Desmond (and Ben?) if they die on the Island fighting Smocke, as well as original Locke's death.

that is exactly what all those people died for. This 'escape universe' was possible or will be possible thanks to the Losties and Jacob.

Hurley and Desmond are already having full memories, it seems....Why not the rest of them, then?

I would love to see some killer scene where Miles stabs Locke, distracting him long enough for Desmond to pull him into the light.

that is exactly what all those people died for. This 'escape universe' was possible or will be possible thanks to the Losties and Jacob.

Hurley and Desmond are already having full memories, it seems....Why not the rest of them, then?

What's not clear yet--but will obviously be resolved in the finale--is what the ultimate purpose is of the Alt-Losties regaining their memories. I think rather than being a reward or a gift, it is possible that this self-awarness may requie the Alt-Losties to have to make a choice of self-sacrifice to give up their "better" Alt existence to somehow preserve the original-verse. . . .But since that would be a much more bittersweet ending, it probably won't happen.

What if Mother has lied to Jacob, who has therefore lied to Jack? Jacob has taken her proclamations on faith, all the information about the Light, the Island, how it needs to be protected...what if that's just not true? It makes sense to me that the Light's highest use would be to live within people and allow them to have meaning-filled, Light-filled lives. Maybe the fact that the Light is hidden in a cave is actually a twisted use of something that was supposed to be free to all in the first place. Someone created the Island to hide the Light and keep it for him/herself. They couldn't keep ALL of it (a little bit hides in every man) but whoever made Mother perhaps stole the light and has an interest in keeping it away from the suffering humans in the "real" world. I'm probably dreaming, but I SO want them all to live happily ever after. Maybe paradise could truly be on earth, and there would be no need for mythology and mysticism.

Is the sideways Jacob's final 'gift' to all the candidates who died during all those years?

Yes, it seems to be the parting gift like on the game shows.

You Jack Sheppard have won our Grand prize!! As the new & improved Protector of the Island you have won your very own new world!! Complete with your parting gift, a teen age boy, who is your Brand New Son!!

Be careful playing Jacob's game or accepting his gifts. They come with a hefty price tag. :schmoll:

What if Mother has lied to Jacob, who has therefore lied to Jack? Jacob has taken her proclamations on faith, all the information about the Light, the Island, how it needs to be protected...what if that's just not true? It makes sense to me that the Light's highest use would be to live within people and allow them to have meaning-filled, Light-filled lives. Maybe the fact that the Light is hidden in a cave is actually a twisted use of something that was supposed to be free to all in the first place. Someone created the Island to hide the Light and keep it for him/herself. They couldn't keep ALL of it (a little bit hides in every man) but whoever made Mother perhaps stole the light and has an interest in keeping it away from the suffering humans in the "real" world. I'm probably dreaming, but I SO want them all to live happily ever after. Maybe paradise could truly be on earth, and there would be no need for mythology and mysticism.

queengeek, this is a fabulous and extremely insightful post. I absolutely love it. Welcome to the Fuselage, and where the hell have you been hiding? :biggrin:

Yes I've telling people lately: PUSH the button..... DON'T push the Button......PUSH the button..... DON'T push the Button......PUSH the button..... DON'T push the Button......Same thing. Why did they push the button. Because they were told that the world would end if they didn't. Was it true? No It was all a set up to get Desmond exposed to Electromagnetic energy.

I suspect you are also correct regarding the light. The danger is not the light. The danger is Smokey, and what he might do with it. I hope when they eliminate the danger, Jack can figure out something wonderful to do with the light.
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I would love to see some killer scene where Miles stabs Locke, distracting him long enough for Desmond to pull him into the light.

Even if Miles isn't supposed to Stab FLocke, he still has a very important ability. He can always go and talk to dead Widmore and Zoe and find out what the plan was, and what Desmond is supposed to do.
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You Jack Sheppard have won our Grand prize!! As the new & improved Protector of the Island you have won your very own new world!! Complete with your parting gift, a teen age boy, who is your Brand New Son!!

Be careful playing Jacob's game or accepting his gifts. They come with a hefty price tag. :schmoll:


I just love the built- in entertainment around this place! :biggrin:

Thanks! I've been lurking for some time. I just never joined, but read and absorbed. Now I'm really sorry I didn't participate more. I don't think another LOST will be coming down the pike any time soon!

Thanks! I've been lurking for some time. I just never joined, but read and absorbed. Now I'm really sorry I didn't participate more. I don't think another LOST will be coming down the pike any time soon!

I see that you've labeled yourself a grieving Lostie. Well, now you don't have to grieve alone. :)

I'm just trying to figure out how you separate a soul from a smoke monster. Many people keep pointing out that Miles has never spoken to MIB, but I'm really skeptical that that's all it would take.
But Miles DOES have the ability to hear the dead - such as the still present body of the MiB, the Adam in the cave. Perhaps hearing MiB's last thoughts before he became Smokey could be critical.

There hasn't been a lot of talk about the REBIRTH element of LIFE, DEATH and REBIRTH...

But Miles DOES have the ability to hear the dead - such as the still present body of the MiB, the Adam in the cave. Perhaps hearing MiB's last thoughts before he became Smokey could be critical.

There hasn't been a lot of talk about the REBIRTH element of LIFE, DEATH and REBIRTH...

great idea about Miles hearing Mib's lasts thoughts. However, he died, but his soul still roams the island....I wonder if that works anyways?

As for the rebirth thing...I think that concept fits very well with the theory that MiB is trying to be born again as Aaron in the sideways.

But Miles DOES have the ability to hear the dead - such as the still present body of the MiB, the Adam in the cave. Perhaps hearing MiB's last thoughts before he became Smokey could be critical.

There hasn't been a lot of talk about the REBIRTH element of LIFE, DEATH and REBIRTH...


WOW! jennylee I never thought about that, and It would be SO COOL if they had time to fit that into the finale.....Miles stumbling on Adam and Eve in the cave....

But Miles would have to walk really fast. The barracks are a long ways away from the Adam and Eve cave. :frown: