...to make sure Jack didn't die alone. That thought adds a whole 'nother layer of beauty to the scene for me. Makes me teary eyed just thinking about it.

I never thought of that!!!

Really nice.


Who knows, perhaps Vincent is even sentient? Jacob?

Nice catch

I have a dog named Vincent and he looks like Lost's Vincent. When he came over so Jack wouldn't die alone, I started crying. Not soft sobbing, I was bawling like a baby. I did that for hours untill I actually had to take a Valium. Today my eyes are still all swollen. What a beautiful, touching image of loyalty. It is a image I will never forget.

That was a nice touch.

rocker: Not sure if your post was meant to be funny, but thanks for making me laugh. I saw the Finale this morning and have been incredibly sad -and crying every now and then- all day. :)

Good point--

Vincent proved Jack wrong on "Live together, Die alone."

What a beautiful, touching image of loyalty. It is a image I will never forget.

I love dogs. My dogs follow me wherever I go and sleep by my side. But that scene just didn't touch me like I thought it would. Jack had no real 'relationship' with Vincent so I don't believe loyalty was an issue. Why would Vincent be loyal to Jack? Michael, Walt, Rose, Bernard...that makes sense. But Jack? Though Vincent was watching Jack in the very first episode when we saw Jack's eye pop open. And he was there, by his side, when we saw his eye close. Jack's eye closing had much more of an impact on me than Vincent laying by his side. Probably because after the beginning episode, along with many, many others, starting with an eye opening (Jack's on more than one occasion), that his eye closing made it seem like it was truly the end of the story. It made me sad.
Or....maybe because I was a tad distracted by the obvious fact that Vincent was played by a different dog in this episode. Maybe not.

Love this.

I think Vincent had a special relationship with Jack. One of the mobisodes featured CS on the Island sending Vincent to wake up Jack as he had "work to do." Maybe he was a "guardian angel" of sorts? He kind of reminded me of Odysseus' dog Argos.

Gah! I jeared for ages, seriously. That was just... overwhelming. I don't think I've ever been so emotional over a show!

But why did Vincent have to die too? He didn't even look injured

But why did Vincent have to die too? He didn't even look injured

Because he's a dog with a relatively short life span? Besides, I don't think Vincent died at that exact moment. He just didn't want Jack to die alone. Once Jack expired, Vincent probably went and got someone (Rose and Bernard?) to come and collect Jack's body, bury him, and have a funeral service.

But why did Vincent have to die too? He didn't even look injured
Do you really think Vincent died with Jack? :sob: :crying: :bawling: :crybaby:

Don't you think Vincent just stayed with Jack becuse he knew he was dying and then after Jack died he ran and got Hurley and Ben? :dog:

It was also a callback to this scene from "Outlaws" (season 1, episode 16)

LOCKE: [making coffee] My sister, Jeanie, died when I was a boy. Fell off the monkey bars and broke her neck. And my mother, well, my foster mother, she blamed herself, of course. She thought she wasn't watching close enough. So, she stopped eating, stopped sleeping. The neighbors started talking, afraid she might do something to herself, I guess. [Sipping coffee] Oh, that's good. Anyway, about 6 months after Jeanie's funeral, this golden retriever comes padding up our driveway, walks right into our house, sits down on the floor, and looks right at my mother, there on the couch. And my mother looks back at the dog. After about a minute of this, of them both staring at each other like that, my mother burst into tears. Beautiful dog, no tags, no collar, healthy, and sweet. The dog slept in Jeanie's old room, on Jeanie's old bed and stayed with us until my mother passed 5 years later. Then, disappeared back to wherever it was she came from in the first place.

KATE: So, you're saying the dog was your sister?

LOCKE: Well, that would be silly. But my mother thought it was, thought that Jeanie had come back to tell her the accident wasn't her fault, let her off the hook.
I thought the scene was beautiful and it had me crying like a baby. I agree with DongaTon about Vicent being sentient - though not neccesarily Jacob. Nice observations from rabidranger too. That mobisode has taken on even greater significance after the finale so I'll have to rewatch it later. :smile:

I have to firmly believe that Vincent did just lie down to keep Jack company, then ran back to his happy life with Rose and Bernard. Still, a very depressing end for Jack. Why didn't Kate stay with him? I know that her mission was Claire, but still. For me, Jack's death would have been much less depressing, if Rose had been holding his hand, or if Hurley could have been there for him, or something.

I have to firmly believe that Vincent did just lie down to keep Jack company, then ran back to his happy life with Rose and Bernard. Still, a very depressing end for Jack. Why didn't Kate stay with him? I know that her mission was Claire, but still. For me, Jack's death would have been much less depressing, if Rose had been holding his hand, or if Hurley could have been there for him, or something.

I can tell you are not a dog owner. ;)

I have to firmly believe that Vincent did just lie down to keep Jack company, then ran back to his happy life with Rose and Bernard. Still, a very depressing end for Jack. Why didn't Kate stay with him? I know that her mission was Claire, but still. For me, Jack's death would have been much less depressing, if Rose had been holding his hand, or if Hurley could have been there for him, or something.

I didn't find his death depressing. He died a hero. Kate didn't stay with him because Jack didn't want her to. She relunctantly left. No shame in that.
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It was also a callback to this scene from "Outlaws" (season 1, episode 16)

I thought the scene was beautiful and it had me crying like a baby. I agree with DongaTon about Vicent being sentient - though not neccesarily Jacob. Nice observations from rabidranger too. That mobisode has taken on even greater significance after the finale so I'll have to rewatch it later. :smile:

I definately think that Vincent was more than just a dog. I don't know if he was a reincarnated person, but he definately seemed guided by a higher power.

...to make sure Jack didn't die alone. That thought adds a whole 'nother layer of beauty to the scene for me. Makes me teary eyed just thinking about it.

In the story in my mind, the ghost of Christian Shephard (not the smokey version) sent Vincent to stay with Jack until he died. Just as I believe he sent Vincent to wake Jack up for the work he had to do. Eventually Vincent brought Rose and Bernard to his body, and they buried him at the island graveyard. Hurley visited him there for many years.

I agree, this was a beautiful last image of Vincent and Jack and oh so sad. *tear*

I didn't really like the episode. I thought much of it was senseless and the final battle with their main antagonist was hackneyed....

....But this whole sequence where Jack goes back to the beginning--And I am sure he intentionally sought out his beginning on the Island--was beautiful terrific TV. When Vincent broke through the trees to lay with him, I lost it. I took it to mean that Vincent had felt that Jack was mortally injured and knew he needed someone. The whole sequence was terrific.

What happened next? Vincent did go back to Rose and Bernard. Most likely Hurley and Ben, without an antagonist on the Island, created a paradise and the four all got together to play some Euchre.

Rose and Bernard, and their dog, by the way, actually finally prove out Jacob's theory that there can be a life on the Island that isn't filled with bad intent, greed and corruption.

Shameless emotional manipulation...and I loved it. Tearing up now thinking of it.

Jesus, please don't make me remember that scene....:frown:

I have to firmly believe that Vincent did just lie down to keep Jack company, then ran back to his happy life with Rose and Bernard. Still, a very depressing end for Jack. Why didn't Kate stay with him? I know that her mission was Claire, but still. For me, Jack's death would have been much less depressing, if Rose had been holding his hand, or if Hurley could have been there for him, or something.
Yes, Jack dying essentially alone was a difficult and poignant moment. And it was profoundly beautiful and poetic, too. Jack was a character that was so often unappreciated in this story. His was the reluctant hero story, and he was the character that was "supposed" to be good, "supposed" to do everything right, "supposed" to take care of everyone, "supposed" to save everyone. And that was mirrored by the fan reaction to the show. Jack was not allowed to have flaws, to be less than perfect. When he drank or took pills in response to seeing his dead father or the pull of the island, his detractors said, "See, he is no hero". But Jack never wanted anything more than to help anyone he could, wherever he could. He wanted only for his friends to be saved, to live and to be happy. He gave much from the very earliest moments of the show......arguably more than he got. That was the point. As Darlton said during season one, "there is nothing more appealing than an unappreciated hero. And that's what makes Jack so great." So, in the end, the man that brought the losties together died essentially alone......with only Vincent by his side. And that was the beauty of it. Jack's peace came not from having anyone holding his hand as he died, but from his essential joy that his friends were alive, safe and going home. It was all that mattered. And it was why he was not truly alone at all.

I have a dog named Vincent and he looks like Lost's Vincent. When he came over so Jack wouldn't die alone, I started crying. Not soft sobbing, I was bawling like a baby. I did that for hours untill I actually had to take a Valium. Today my eyes are still all swollen. What a beautiful, touching image of loyalty. It is a image I will never forget.
You and me both, Rocker. I was sobbing, and I've got a lump in my throat just typing this.
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Jesus, please don't make me remember that scene....:frown:
Yea, I can't handle thinking about it either. Jack's death scene was unbearably sad and poignant and beautiful.

What I think is funny is that I think, after that finale, Jack might be my favorite character. Jack!

So, in the end, the man that brought the losties together died essentially alone......with only Vincent by his side. And that was the beauty of it. Jack's peace came not from having anyone holding his hand as he died, but from his essential joy that his friends were alive, safe and going home. It was all that mattered. And it was why he was not truly alone at all.


I agree with this and it was a beautiful scene ....... I sobbed!

Good point--

Vincent proved Jack wrong on "Live together, Die alone."

No, he didn't. Jack never said "Live together, die alone".

Jack said - and the difference is crucial - "If we don't learn to live together, we're gonna die alone".

Vincent proved Jack right. He helped the survivors learn to live together, and he thus didn't die alone.

Vincent's final role on LOST was as Lassie! Helping break out Des from the well. That and as a great bookend to the pilot when he is by Jack's side when he wakes up, now he's by his side when he dies.

Every time I think about that final scene I start crying - it's the darn dog lying there beside him that's the real killer, sob! What a beautifully poetic way to end an amazing story.

H x

....But this whole sequence where Jack goes back to the beginning--And I am sure he intentionally sought out his beginning on the Island--was beautiful terrific TV. When Vincent broke through the trees to lay with him, I lost it. I took it to mean that Vincent had felt that Jack was mortally injured and knew he needed someone. The whole sequence was terrific.I completely agree. This was the scene that ultimately won me over on the finale, and upped my opinion of the series as a whole (I think almost all of season 6 was a huge misstep).

No, he didn't. Jack never said "Live together, die alone".

Jack said - and the difference is crucial - "If we don't learn to live together, we're gonna die alone".

Vincent proved Jack right. He helped the survivors learn to live together, and he thus didn't die alone.

Yeah I've noticed a few people using the phrase out of context. They forget the whole speech was, "if we cant live together, were gonna die alone". They just hear "live together, die alone" and perceive at as a cynical statement about life and death, when really they're words of encouragement. And apparently Vincent took those words to heart...

Yeah... I struggled so hard not to cry with my family and friends while watching. But on the second viewing (in private) I cried so much. The ending sequence was the saddest/best scene in the series. I was like, "how could this ending get any better?" then the plane went overhead... and I was like. Wow... how amazing. Bravo Lost.

Jack is my all time favorite.

This was the moment I start crying.
Jack going to the starting point, the bamboo forest, Vincent in his side. Jack closing his eye. Beautiful.

I never really thought Vincent was that loyal to anyone, for the most part he just always seemed to do his own thing. That made it even more poignant for me when he came bounding through the bamboo and actually laid down beside Jack to keep him company.

And the shoe!

This was the moment I start crying.
Jack going to the starting point, the bamboo forest, Vincent in his side. Jack closing his eye. Beautiful.

STOP IT, please!:frown::frown::frown::biggrin:

I agree with a lot of other posters that scene was when I finally lost it completely! All the reunions had me sobbing - especially Sawyer and Juliet - but seeing that dog lie down next to Jack as his eye closed... :cry::cry::cry:

In the story in my mind, the ghost of Christian Shephard (not the smokey version) sent Vincent to stay with Jack until he died. Just as I believe he sent Vincent to wake Jack up for the work he had to do. Eventually Vincent brought Rose and Bernard to his body, and they buried him at the island graveyard. Hurley visited him there for many years.

This is great! Rose and Bernard talking to Jack's grave...maybe them having a a lover's quarrel like they usually do by Jack's grave. I love it!

Totally. This scene was purely magical and heart-wrenching. I think Vincent's appearance was even more poignant because of what Walt said back in season 1 -- he gave Vincent to Shannon to look after because when Walt's mom died, Vincent comforted her. Vincent comforted Shannon when Boone died. And finally, Vincent comforted Jack in his own death. Vincent truly was a man's best friend, and loyal companion. Well done, LOST.

Good gravy I'm crying again ! That was Vincent's true role...to make us all cry.:crybaby:


(it worked)

Totally. This scene was purely magical and heart-wrenching. I think Vincent's appearance was even more poignant because of what Walt said back in season 1 -- he gave Vincent to Shannon to look after because when Walt's mom died, Vincent comforted her. Vincent comforted Shannon when Boone died. And finally, Vincent comforted Jack in his own death. Vincent truly was a man's best friend, and loyal companion. Well done, LOST.

OMG I'd forgotten all that...what a wonderful dog he is! :yes:

This was the scene that really did it for me too, and I absolutely think they had it in mind as the end from the start, I didn't like Jack dying like that, but seeing him smile in the flash sideways helped me cope with it. Beautiful.

What really got me was Jack crying tears of joy when he felt the water coming back down to the light.

Kinda like he finally got a purpose in life and he had fulfilled it.

Vincent's been on Team Jacob (http://forum.thefuselage.com/showthread.php?t=116425) from day one.

STOP IT, please!:frown::frown::frown::biggrin:

Sorry, but I cant get that scene out of my head.:cry:

"Can't get that scene out of my head."

You should have waited a few days. Perhaps good ol' Vincent was just guarding his food. He looked like he was hunting for food in the "Pilot" and Shephard's Pie was on the menu. Maybe that's what happened to Christian's body.

Which brings me to the theme of LOST: art, beauty, whatever happened happened -- it's all in the EYE of the beholder. Perhaps MIB was "evil" and planned to do something radical if he could only go home. Perhaps the island's phallic cork prevented "evil" gases from escaping. But if that was so, then what were WWI, WWII, and all the endless genocides, atrocities that have plagued mankind. Just a fart from the island?

But in my EYE, I'm happy for the entertaining six LOST years. It could have been worse, we could have gotten the "Life on Mars" crapola. Thanks for the fish biscuits.

Yes, Jack dying essentially alone was a difficult and poignant moment. And it was profoundly beautiful and poetic, too. Jack was a character that was so often unappreciated in this story. His was the reluctant hero story, and he was the character that was "supposed" to be good, "supposed" to do everything right, "supposed" to take care of everyone, "supposed" to save everyone. And that was mirrored by the fan reaction to the show. Jack was not allowed to have flaws, to be less than perfect. When he drank or took pills in response to seeing his dead father or the pull of the island, his detractors said, "See, he is no hero". But Jack never wanted anything more than to help anyone he could, wherever he could. He wanted only for his friends to be saved, to live and to be happy. He gave much from the very earliest moments of the show......arguably more than he got. That was the point. As Darlton said during season one, "there is nothing more appealing than an unappreciated hero. And that's what makes Jack so great." So, in the end, the man that brought the losties together died essentially alone......with only Vincent by his side. And that was the beauty of it. Jack's peace came not from having anyone holding his hand as he died, but from his essential joy that his friends were alive, safe and going home. It was all that mattered. And it was why he was not truly alone at all.


THIS so much. I cried a ton when Jack had his flashes -- because half of them were of him helping people on the island. That was Jack's purpose. He was a better doctor on the island, a better partner, a better everything, than he ever was in the real world. So I thought that was so appropriate that he flashed to what he did best, and it wasn't all falling in love with Kate. God bless Vincent for bringing Jack full circle and giving him another measure of peace on the way over...!

Probably my favorite moment out of the whole series.

Every time I think about that final scene I start crying - it's the darn dog lying there beside him that's the real killer, sob! What a beautifully poetic way to end an amazing story.
H x
Jesus, please don't make me remember that scene....:frown:
Yeah... I struggled so hard not to cry with my family and friends while watching. But on the second viewing (in private) I cried so much. The ending sequence was the saddest/best scene in the series. I was like, "how could this ending get any better?" then the plane went overhead... and I was like. Wow... how amazing. Bravo Lost.
Jack is my all time favorite.
STOP IT, please!:frown::frown::frown::biggrin:
Good gravy I'm crying again ! That was Vincent's true role...to make us all cry.:crybaby:
(it worked)
I am in total agreement.
This is probably the saddest thread I have ever read. :sob:
I can't help coming back when a new post is made and I keep forgetting to get tissues before I open it. :crybaby:

oh man., I am tearing up right now just reading this thread. It had been a while since lost had made me cry. But when I began to realize that the show had 5 mins left, and I realized where jack was going to die, I cried. :cry:

i felt he represented all us of fans.. not wanting to see jack go alone... after watching this 10 times i still cry.

Vincent was the one, pure, flawless character on the island. That he showed up to "shepherd" Jack through this transition was, I think, what he was meant for all along.

That scene was elliptically poetic. Still sniffling.:cry:

I am in total agreement.
This is probably the saddest thread I have ever read. :sob:
I can't help coming back when a new post is made and I keep forgetting to get tissues before I open it. :crybaby:

I'm still crying about it. You know I haven't even a regular fan for years but I thought the ending of the finale was about as perfect as could be and Vincent showing up to comfort Jack in his finale moments, to just be a presence was so incredibly beautiful.

Something that happened to me that day and the day after.

Sunday I was on pins and needles. The show comes on, I tape and watch it, ending was amazing, and go to bed. Middle of the night I decided to go looking for my dog, as I hadn't seen her all afternoon. I found her behind a shed; she had died peacefully. My dog was old, I knew she didn't have a lot of time, but I thought she'd last a few more months. I guess the heat got to her. I wrapped her up, went back to bed, then buried her around 6 in the morning. She was a good, faithful dog.

Went to work, came back that evening, and rewatched the show. The ending with Vincent, combined with my own dog on my mind all day, bothered me, but in a good way, I suppose.

It was the second time around that really gave it that extra wallop, and I'm not a guy that rattles easily.

Tremendous ending, nonetheless. One of the best ever.

Something that happened to me that day and the day after.

Sunday I was on pins and needles. The show comes on, I tape and watch it, ending was amazing, and go to bed. Middle of the night I decided to go looking for my dog, as I hadn't seen her all afternoon. I found her behind a shed; she had died peacefully. My dog was old, I knew she didn't have a lot of time, but I thought she'd last a few more months. I guess the heat got to her. I wrapped her up, went back to bed, then buried her around 6 in the morning. She was a good, faithful dog.

Went to work, came back that evening, and rewatched the show. The ending with Vincent, combined with my own dog on my mind all day, bothered me, but in a good way, I suppose.

It was the second time around that really gave it that extra wallop, and I'm not a guy that rattles easily.

Tremendous ending, nonetheless. One of the best ever.

Im really sorry to hear that.

I've always believed that personal experience defines this show and this is living proof of that.

Again, my condolences.

Vincent was the one, pure, flawless character on the island. That he showed up to "shepherd" Jack through this transition was, I think, what he was meant for all along.


Running away from Walt leaving him to face the polar bear alone in Special doesn't strike me as the action of a flawless dog.

The only element missing from that final scene was a tear drop coming from Jack's eye as it closed. Vincent being there kinda made up for it. Kinda.


P. S. Sure wish there was a version of Vincent in the church scene at the end. That would have been a sweet and perfect ending.

In the story in my mind, the ghost of Christian Shephard (not the smokey version) sent Vincent to stay with Jack until he died. Just as I believe he sent Vincent to wake Jack up for the work he had to do. Eventually Vincent brought Rose and Bernard to his body, and they buried him at the island graveyard. Hurley visited him there for many years.

Also in the final scene at the church, the moment Christian touches Jack's shoulder the next scene cuts to Vincent appearing before Jack to comfort him. :cry:

Having Vincent appear in the church without Walt would have been wrong. Having both of them there would have been okay. Vincent did spend the majority of his life with Walt, and only a few seconds with Jack.

I loved Vincent showing up and giving dying Jack some love.

Didn't like Jack's eye closing slowly as if his whole death was normal. I dunno. The way his eye opened in the pilot ... kind of bursting open with a boom-zippit sound ... Almost wanted the exact reverse to happen in his death. Would make us go nuts speculating over a time loop. Would've been fun =]

Personally I enjoyed his moment of triumph when he turned The Light back on. The guy was so obsessed with "fixing it" the entire show. And then he just fixed THE ISLAND. It was just this wonderful kind of, "WHAT! I JUST FIXED - THE - FREAKING - ISLAND."

Maybe Vincent was hungry for some human meat.

P. S. Sure wish there was a version of Vincent in the church scene at the end. That would have been a sweet and perfect ending.

I was really disappointed to not see him in the church. He may have spent a good deal of time with Walt, but he also spent a great deal of time with Rose and Bernard, along with the rest of the castaways in the beginning.

The thing I thought of when I saw the scene with Jack and Vincent.
(I know people are going to screem at this one)
dog spelled backwards is God.

I think that almost any religion would balk at dogs being portrayed as being worthy of entering people heaven. I like the idea, and he appeared as much or more than Bernard,(and shared the second greatest moment of LOST with Jack at the end) but it just would be too forward thinking.

Running away from Walt leaving him to face the polar bear alone in Special doesn't strike me as the action of a flawless dog.

It sure as hell makes him sensible!:)

I was moved the first time I watched, I was almost a basket case when I rewatched the scene. It was visual poetry. Makes me tear up to think about it and now I have to explain to my family why I'm crying again.
Why did I come in this thread??!! :hissy:

I have a dog named Vincent and he looks like Lost's Vincent. When he came over so Jack wouldn't die alone, I started crying. Not soft sobbing, I was bawling like a baby. I did that for hours untill I actually had to take a Valium. Today my eyes are still all swollen. What a beautiful, touching image of loyalty. It is a image I will never forget.

This post has nearly made me cry as much as the scene did.

The scene was an emotional A-bomb! No matter how many times I watch it, I'm still moved.
It would have been so much better, though, if instead of just laying down beside him, Vincent had layed his head on Jack's chest. That would have had me bawling like a baby!