One thing that struck me about that whole hylarious Hurley making his flight sequence is that he, unlike ANYONE else that we know of, was NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THAT FLIGHT. Were they all doomed until he smoothed his way onto that flight (scanning his own ticket haha)? He thinks it's because of him that the plane crashed, but what if it's because of him that anyone survived?

It's all like fate vs. free will and punishment vs. salvation up on Craphole Island!

Also: of course it was Hurley's comic book, that makes so much friggin sense.

That is an excellent idea!

I didn't think about it that way, but that is a great idea. It's obvious the plane was fated to crash, so maybe it was Hurley that saved some of the passengers. This leaves one question. Did the psychic want Claire to die, or did the psychic know she was going to survive? ??? My head is spinning.

I think that is a great idea! I am sure he is thinking, "My God, I ran all that time jsut to crash this plane down!" But it could be true, if he was not supposed to get on that plane, and he interfered with "fate" then it is possible that he is the one responsible for so many survivors. And I am curious about the psychic too...did he want Claire to die so that she would not give the baby to someone else?

Hmmmm interesting........ I like this idea. :)
I think the psychic somehow new Claire would survive, don't know exactly how but somehow he just knew. He did want her to raise the baby herself and the only way that seemed possible was by sending her on the doomed aiflight to LA (which led to craphole island). I think he knew all along, the question is why. He said it was important that she raise the baby herself, but why?
Bri, interesting thought, I still think he knew she would survive but that could be a possibility as well.

I thought about that too. It definitely seemed to me that if you believe in fate deciding things on this show, then Fate DID NOT want Hurley on Flight 815. Because of that, I think Hurley is an unplanned for Variable in the Island scheme (assuming that the island or people on it have a grand scheme). So yeah, I think he could definitely be a gear in the works.

As for Claire and Turniphead...erm Aaron...I think the psychic knew about the crash, and that she'd survive, but I wonder if he is an example of the inherent difficulty in predicting the future. I wonder if he interpreted danger in Aaron being raised by another as meaning another person, when it could have easily mean An Other. So in avoiding disaster, did the psychic really bring it into being. Of course, with that said, so far the Others seem far more interested in Walt than Aaron (assuming the people on the mystery boat were The Others)

I don't know. I seemed to me that almost all of them nearly didn't get on the plane.

Sayid was pulled aside because of Shannon.
Charlie looking for his drugs and fighting with the girl.
Jack and the coffin.
Locke and the missing wheelechair.
Claire and the last minute ticket.
Sun was going to leave before getting on the plane.
Micheal didn't expect to bring Wlat back.
Sawyer's deportation is the only reason he was there.

Only Micheal, Jin Boone and Shannon didn't face any trouble getting on.

Hurely did face the hardest time. It does seem like he wasn't supposed the be there, like whatever protects him was trying to stop him.

If it was "fate" that Hurley was not to get on the plane, then he wouldn't have. Since he did get on the plane it was his fate. If you believe in fate then everything is already predetermined and your actions are basically meaningless. So basically there is no way he his fate could have been to not get on the plane by the very fact he got on. I don't know if that makes sense but my head hurts.

Very interesting. I never thought of it that way. He was definately batting a lot to get on that plane. I laughed so hard when he bought that motorized scooter/chair and to see him going thru the airport on it. *:lol2:

Something it seems didn't not want him on that plane.

I don't know. I seemed to me that almost all of them nearly didn't get on the plane.

Sayid was pulled aside because of Shannon.
Charlie looking for his drugs and fighting with the girl.
Jack and the coffin.
Locke and the missing wheelechair.
Claire and the last minute ticket.
Sun was going to leave before getting on the plane.
Micheal didn't expect to bring Wlat back.
Sawyer's deportation is the only reason he was there.

Only Micheal, Jin Boone and Shannon didn't face any trouble getting on.

Hurely did face the hardest time. It does seem like he wasn't supposed the be there, like whatever protects him was trying to stop him.


Great post. I think that an argument can also be made that Jin may not have gotten on the plane and gone through with the watch delivery if not for the guy in the bathroom.

I think Hurley is immune to the Numbers. As hard as they try, the Numbers don't affect HIM. The Numbers tried their best to keep him OFF the plane. They were everywhere. But he walked right through.

That said, I still don't have any clue what Hurley's purpose is. Might he be the eventual hero? Probably. I think that whatever is inside the shaft (if indeed there IS anything inside of it) will not be able to affect Hurley.

I think the fact that there are survivors of the plane crash is because of their proximity to Hurley. Hurley couldn't be affected, so those around him by default would also be spared.

DP

Robinhood, you make a great point. Hmmm. Perhaps since they weren't supposed to be on the plane they survived? I think arguments could be made for Michael, Jin, Boone, and Shannon. And remember we are still just learning how some of them almost didn't make it on, so maybe there is more to this. Does that make any sense. It's been a long day of posting and my brain is fried. :laugh:

Boone and Shannon definatley wanted into first class but didn't get in... maybe that's something... I think everyone in first class met a pretty gruesome end...