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isisfrog
12-10-2004, 08:20 AM
Wanted some more perspectives on this, since I only got 1 response at my livejournal. This subject came up because of a myriad of posts across LJ after this week's episode. My thoughts copied from my post:

Ever have a hard time articulating what's bothering you?


I was earlier, but I figured it out. The idea that Boone *might* be gay or should be looked at as possibly such because of his job just....put a rock in my stomach. WTF?

Lots of people go into their family business w/o being gay! Just because of the industry, that's what I've seen thrown about. Besides, that scenario would be a total cop-out on an otherwise smart show. Why play into the stereotypes, when you could do something unexpected?

How about making Doc gay/bi? Or the Dad?


I'd be happier with those surprises, since they don't fit the stereotype. Realistic, and thoughtful.

Thoughts? Feelings? Ideas?

Sherry
12-10-2004, 11:26 AM
Don't think any of them are gay. Just personal opinion. And I don't see why people are making such a fuss, its almost as if for the show to be a success atleast one of the major characters HAS to be gay. I think there is enough angst and drama without that having to play a factor.

Andrea
12-10-2004, 01:35 PM
Realistically, among 50 or so survivors (and who knows how many other people on the island at this point) there has to be AT LEAST one or two gay people. It's like on Star Trek where there were hundreds of characters but no one was ever gay. The fact that homosexuality in the future is never addressed *at all* when all other mundane aspects of future living are depicted in minute detail. It's the big pink elephant in the room. But the writers of Lost have already answered on the VIP board that they have no plans to make any of the main cast gay at this point, that it's something they may explore in the future with other characters or whatever, so I do think that there will be at least one gay character on the show sooner or later, but I don't think Boone is supposed to be, canonically, gay.

It's not hard to see why Boone "pings" as gay for a lot of viewers - he's impeccably good looking, obviously works out, dresses well, is concerned about skin care ("We're out of sunscreen, princess") seems to follow Jack around like a puppy, is under his sister's thumb, is apparently a Sensitive New Age environmentally friendly kinda guy, is a bleeding-heart liberal, and is now both a lifeguard and a wedding planner. It's understandable that some people see him as a subtextually gay character.

On the other hand, in real life, there are many men that do not conform to popular culture's current expectations of masculinity without necessarily being effeminate. IMHO Ian Somerhalder is one of those men, and as an actor he has his own brand of masculinity/sexuality that he brings to the character of Boone. It is not aggressive and overwhelming like, say, Daniel Dae Kim's or Josh Holloway's sex appeal (though they're both totally gorgeous too). I think IS's sex appeal is more like that of Naveen Andrews, who is considered less "sexually suspect" probably just by virtue of the fact that he's got a broader build than IS. (Real men must be physically dominant, you know! ::) ) But they have a similar sort of brainy, brooding thing going for them that to me makes them their own brand of sexy.

It's a shame that people's view of femininity has become so expansive in the last 100 years, but people's view of masculinity has remained extremely narrow and any man who falls out of line with that is immediately branded as "sexually suspect." I'll get off my soapbox now, but I guess what I'm trying to say is, I get why people wonder about Boone, but I also think it's a little depressing that a lot of fans think it's a given that he MUST be gay just because he's not a stereotype. In truth, narratively speaking, Boone's a blank slate and I'm enjoying him that way. *shrug*

Ophelia
12-10-2004, 01:49 PM
I had a dream that he was!!!! It felt so real!!! But then that would blow my theory that Boone and Shannon are secretly in love with each other...

CharliesGal
12-10-2004, 02:03 PM
Andrea,

Good points all around. I think people are a little too obsessed with the issue of sexual orientation. It doesn't make any difference whether someone is gay or not. It's just another thing about them that we don't know yet and may (or may not) find out eventually.

I personally don't see Boone being gay, or Jack (who is the other character everyone "suspects")

And opheliapain, I hope to God you're wrong. If Shannon and Boone were secretly in love with each other, I would have to be ill. Unless it turns out they are not really related. But still, we know them as brother and sister, so it would take a lot of adjustment if they turned out to be not related and really in love. yuck.

katejones
12-10-2004, 07:24 PM
So eloquent, Andrea! Bravo! I absolutely agree.

Btw, I don't think Boone is a "wedding planner" per se. He runs "one of his mother's wedding related businesses." Which implies he is not the one picking which flowers to use in the centerpieces and what not but rather he works more on the corporate side of the business.

flora
12-10-2004, 08:49 PM
I just don't think the issue of sexuality should be at the forefront during a time of trama, chaos, and survival. I agree with Andrea, that the odds are at least one of the survivors is gay...but at the same time, I don't think any of the survivors need to be thinking about romantic liasions when there are much more pressing concerns to worry about. And yes...I'm soooo against the Kate + <fill in the blank> thing right now...it's only been like 3 weeks on the island! Maybe at some point one of the survivors will make a personal admission, say on a hike, to another character like, "Back in civilization I was a total flammer!" But to do so at this point in the story is just silly. Worry about being rescued. Worry about finding food. Worry about Claire. But worrying about gettin' your groove on? Nah.

The Partyman
12-11-2004, 01:53 AM
Well said Andrea .* 8)

In such a mix of people there are bound to be those with differing sexualities.* But I certainly think that the creative team behind this show are above such things as the same old "oooh he's gay" storyline....

IS is a cracking actor and Boone is a great role for him.* I love how there's nothing 'obvious' about the character (or for that matter, the portrayal).

Until the latest episode, I was getting the impression that perhaps we're meant to have been wondering about Boone's sexuality, and thinking he might be gay or asexual - for many of the stereotyped reasons (well dressed, 'pretty', calm, gets beaten up etc.) - as a kind of mislead.... perhaps to suprise us when he hooks up with one of the female characters on the island... But his Red Shirt comments to Locke decided it for me.... because obviously: Gay mean don't watch Star Trek.* *;)


Oh and on what katejones said...* I actually really like the idea of Boone being a Wedding Planner type!

Any man secure in his masculinity has no reason to fear flowers.


p.s.* Interestingly enough, Naveen Andrews actually can do a very good gay man.* I saw him the stage version of "My Beautiful Laundrette" in the early nineties, and he absolutely nailed it.

Andrea
12-11-2004, 11:54 AM
Partyman, you had me until "Gay men don't watch Star Trek." Trust me, they do. One of my best friends is a gay man who befriended me when he spotted me reading a Star Trek paperback on a bench a few years ago in college. =)

Side note: Playing a gay character when you're a straight actor isn't really any harder than any other role. Acting is all about convincing the audience that you're someone you're not anyway. I'm an actor, and I've had to play a lesbian before. I'm not a lesbian, but I'm also not alcoholic white trash, nor the mother of Hamlet, nor a London woman in love with the crazy barber from upstairs, so whatever! :lol2: The only thing stopping an actor from "doing a good gay man" is the actor's own inhibitions about such a character. You just have to get over yourself, not care about the audience's prejudices, and find the truth about the character as a human being. It's all the same thing in the end.

I love how there's nothing 'obvious' about the character (or for that matter, the portrayal).
Totally agree. IS is pitifully underrated among the actors of my generation, and Boone's got a lot of nuance and ambiguity so far. Which contributes to the sexuality speculation, certainly.

Flora said: Worry about being rescued. Worry about finding food. Worry about Claire. But worrying about gettin' your groove on? Nah.Funniest thing I've read on this whole board. And it's funny 'cause it's true! It's why I don't get the 'shipper wars at all. 'Shipping? On this show? I'll be happy if my favorite characters stay alive to the end of the season!

ETA: It sounds like Boone!Mom's entire business is about wedding planning. Whatever he was doing before the crash, it's related to wedding planning. He looked kind of embarrassed about it, so I'm sure it was something at least a little girly. =)

The Partyman
12-13-2004, 12:32 AM
you had me until "Gay men don't watch Star Trek." Trust me, they do. One of my best friends is a gay man who befriended me when he spotted me reading a Star Trek paperback on a bench a few years ago in college. =)

Oh I know they do. In fact most of my gay friends watch it!

I was attempting a bit of comedy there, to tie in with the comments about Star Trek having no gay characters, is all. Maybe I needed a sarcasm font or some some advanced tonal smiley? Maybe its just my British humour!

and ITA with your comments about playing gay roles. I used to be an actor (maybe that means I am an actor but just don't act anymore? Not sure). Never technically played a gay role myself, but used a gay part for an audition piece for a while, and what you're saying is spot on.

You've done Sweeny Todd then? Cool.

babygotbackgammon
12-13-2004, 11:37 AM
My ridiculous pulled-from-betwixt-the-cheeks-as-of-now theory on gayity in the LOST world is this: SCOTT AND STEVE BE LOVERS.

Totally unsubstantiated by anything other than my own giggling.

Ophelia
12-13-2004, 11:41 AM
Scott and Steve could be the gay, I mean, why the heck are they always together other than the fact that if the writers split them up we wouldn't know who they are?

Scott and Steve

Andrea
12-13-2004, 11:51 AM
No way! Scott and Steve are heterosexual life partners, damn it!!!!! You cheapen their deep emotional connection by making it all about sex! :lol2:

ThePartyman, hee, yes, I've done Sweeney Todd, and sorry about not getting your gay Trekkie joke. ;)

Topic: I still don't think Boone's gay. Just by sheer virtue of the fact that there HAS to be an unmarried straight man on the island who is also NOT in love with Kate. Because if I didn't already love him for the Star Trek references, I would love Boone forever for the "What, you're tracker now, too?" Boone says what we're all thinking. ;)

jeffofhearts
12-13-2004, 11:57 AM
Slightly off topic... but has anyone noticed that every character on the island is single, or on the island with their partner? The closest to someone actually in a relationship with someone off the island is Sayid... and I wouldn't really count that.

Doesn't anyone date anymore?

jeff

Ophelia
12-13-2004, 12:07 PM
Jeffofhearts, good point. Maybe the fact they don't have boy/girlfriends is what ties them together. ???

I have no idea what I am talking about...

*walks away humming*

JennieJamJar
12-13-2004, 12:11 PM
I don't think Boone's gay, mainly because there hasn't been any indication he is. Why should all wedding planners be gay? Why should having a "girly" job make a man gay?

He doesn't ping my gaydar, basically. :)

And hey, Jeffofhearts, that's a good point. Unless there are relationships we don't know about. And you could argue from Locke's point of view that he had Helen, up until not long afore he took the plane.

Andrea
12-13-2004, 01:29 PM
I know someone who suspects that Jack had a pre-existing relationship that had just become estranged as he left for Australia, which explains his ambivalence toward Kate, but yeah.

Jennie, I don't think Boone's gay either, but by your logic, there hasn't been any indication that he isn't gay either.

katejones
12-13-2004, 04:08 PM
Slightly off topic... but has anyone noticed that every character on the island is single, or on the island with their partner?* The closest to someone actually in a relationship with someone off the island is Sayid... and I wouldn't really count that.

Doesn't anyone date anymore?

jeff


Yeah I noticed that too. I guess it's possible that one of the characters is married or in a relationship and we just don't know it yet.

What I find really odd is none of our survivors lost anyone on the plane. They were either alone on the plane or whomever they were with survived as well. Okay, the marshall died but he doesn't really count. Rose is the only character we've seen that lost a loved one on the plane. I find that strange.

jennifer81
12-17-2004, 06:21 PM
i thought Jack was gay at first.

"after what you did to your father" thing.
"no kate I will not kiss you." thing too.

But after seeing more episodes I decided against it.

I don't think Boone is gay.

SCOTT AND SYEVE! *breaks into fit of giggles* WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT BEFORE?

Andrea
12-23-2004, 12:32 PM
Re-watching the eps last night, I've just noticed that two separate characters have remarked on Boone's sexual ambiguity in the series.

In "Walkabout," while Hurley and Sawyer are fighting, Boone defends Hurley verbally and Sawyer yells at Boone, "Shut up, Metro," to which Boone has no response. I'm assuming Sawyer meant "metrosexual." I read a very well written fic in which an author has Sawyer refer to Boone as "Metro" in a conversation with another character and had assumed that she'd coined it, but no, Sawyer really does comment on Boone's apparent sexual ambiguity.

At the end of "White Rabbit," Charlie calls Boone "pretty boy" in a very derogatory way. This is a way to comment on Boone's masculinity (or perceived lack thereof) since "pretty" isn't a word with masculine connotations and neither is "boy" when applied to a 22 year old man. Normally straight men use this term as a way to comment derogatorily on other men's sexual ambiguity.

So if other characters mention it, maybe there's something to our speculating here. I mean... I do NOT think Boone's gay. But I do think he's supposed to be sexually ambiguous for a reason, because it's actually canon.

Founder
12-23-2004, 02:59 PM
I don't think he's gay. I just think he's an annoying loser. With very bad social skills.

lostdreamer29
12-24-2004, 01:37 AM
I don't think Boone is gay, I just think that there hasn't been (not to say there won't be) a female on the island who is right for him.

VinnySem
12-24-2004, 11:46 AM
After looking at the upcoming promo pics, and watching the reruns, I think Boone is a porn star. I mean, that leather jacket, and the ring on his finger? Lifeguard and wedding planner are plausible characters in porn movies. And we know his past is racy, doesn't get much more racy than that.

lost-lotr
12-24-2004, 12:12 PM
I think it's a possible thought, but I think Boone and Shannon are not brother and sister. When Kate asked Shannon if Boone was Shannon's boyfriend she didn't answer immediatly. So I believe that Shannon and Boone are secretly going out. This is of course just my theory so it's all possible. I think someone else may be gay though..

flora
12-27-2004, 11:58 AM
After looking at the upcoming promo pics, and watching the reruns, I think Boone is a porn star. I mean, that leather jacket, and the ring on his finger? Lifeguard and wedding planner are plausible characters in porn movies. And we know his past is racy, doesn't get much more racy than that.


THAT'S much better than the incest plot! :lol2:

Fogey
12-27-2004, 04:18 PM
After looking at the upcoming promo pics, and watching the reruns, I think Boone is a porn star. I mean, that leather jacket, and the ring on his finger? Lifeguard and wedding planner are plausible characters in porn movies. And we know his past is racy, doesn't get much more racy than that. Umm and that rat claimed he was in a family business :o*

Boone looking Metro would be natural due to the business he works in (I mean the wedding one* :lol2:) You dress for the job you have and I would suspect clients who can afford a wedding planner don't expect the planner to look like a derelict island castaway.

Re too early to be thinking beyond survival, Sawyer's remarks to Kate & Shannon show he is thinking beyond mere survival, ditto Kate's telling Jack it's OK if he is checking her out even Michael's apparent reaction to Sun might be considered in that light and Charley has paid 'beyond survival' attention to Shannon, Kate and Claire'. I think that even this early in the show, they are setting us up for future romantic tensions between characters.

desertislandgirl
01-02-2005, 07:07 PM
I didn't think metrosexual referred to sexual ambiguity - I thought it referred to heterosexuals who are really into personal grooming and style?

I don't personally think Boone's gay, but I guess we'll know more when we get his backstory!

that1spunkygirl
01-02-2005, 07:27 PM
well Boone hasn't proven to be very "manly" up until this point. I think that's why the other guys make funof him. he protests too much. he's a lifeguard, but can't swim, he throws a hissyfit in an attempt to show that he "knows what he's doing" because he's a professional that runs his own business. but no i don't think he's gay at all. and i do think he's got/had something going on with his non biological sister Shannon

as for gay characters, and characters in relationships off the island, i also am thinking scott and steve are a couple. and well Hurley, he's dating a supermodel back home!

Andrea
01-05-2005, 01:06 PM
Boone's not manly? Why would you say that? He looks plenty masculine to me. I mean, he's not maturely masculine the way that, say, Sawyer, Jack, Sayid, Jin, Locke and Michael are, but he's supposed to be a very young man.

Ian S. is naturally slight of build. I don't necessarily think that makes a man effeminate. It's not like it's something he can control, and anyway, for having a small-to-medium frame, he's in very very good shape (http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10002/cowboys23.jpg). Likewise, the fact that he has a really handsome face doesn't mean much either. I mean, sexuality is about who you identify with and want to be with, not what you look like.

I think that Sawyer's "Metro" comment is just him being his usual rednecky self, and Charlie's "pretty boy" comment was jealousy. Cause honestly there's not much that's effeminate about the actor or the way he's playing Boone.

CharliesGal
01-05-2005, 08:47 PM
Hmmm... How about that comment Shannon made in tonight's episode? "Is he your new boyfriend?"

Of course, that could just be sister/brother banter. I like how they are keeping us guessing.

waywardwanderer
01-05-2005, 10:05 PM
Yes, I was like, "OH SNAP, Shannon!" She's not so useless after all, now is she? Hehe.

We can't say for sure if he's gay, 'cause his response was less response, more staring. BUT, I gotta say he sure didn't seem offended...

Perhaps Boone was staring at Sayid... not because of Shannon?? (LOL, I am SO unbelievably kidding)

Andrea
01-05-2005, 10:27 PM
Honestly, it looks like he's used to her ragging on him all the time, so why would he dignify that with an answer?

I think Boone was staring at Sayid and Shannon cause he knows Shannon's up to no good.

waywardwanderer
01-05-2005, 10:48 PM
Eh, while I don't trust Shannon with Sayid, I won't simply discount her remark to Boone. She says things that she knows will sting him and he responds in kind. Perhaps he likes girls...and guys.

poopdiddy
01-06-2005, 12:02 AM
Maybe Locke is the one to worry about. He seemed at first like the creepy old man hanging out with the kid and now he keeps going into the woods with the young guy in secret.

katejones
01-06-2005, 12:14 AM
Honestly, it looks like he's used to her ragging on him all the time, so why would he dignify that with an answer?



I took his response the same way. Though, the writers are being intentionly ambiguous. I think at this point they haven't decided or don't think it's important whether Boone is gay.

that1spunkygirl
01-06-2005, 12:31 AM
Andrea, I meant "manly" (which is why I put it in quotes) as in behavior. Then I listed some of those supposedly "non manly" things he'd done. Which is much like he commented on tonight's episode. Everyone thinks they're s joke. Because they're spoiled rich kids, or whatever other reasons.

Maybe Shannon made the comment in reference to something Boone did in the past, like reject her advances once they realized they were related, or he felt they shouldn't have a relationship for some reason. That's the kind of thing that elicits some women to make mean comments about a man's sexuality.

lost-lotr
01-06-2005, 01:21 PM
Hmmm... How about that comment Shannon made in tonight's episode? "Is he your new boyfriend?"

Of course, that could just be sister/brother banter. I like how they are keeping us guessing.


I was curious about that comment Shannon made too :-\ . I just don't know about those two. They are very intriging characters. Hm... I just don't know.

:king: Joe

ELTaino74
01-07-2005, 04:48 PM
:o Is it me or did anyone noticed when Shannon and Boone were on the beach in the 12th episode, when Shannon said. "What are you doing out there...is he your new boyfriend?" If you noticed that right after she said that Boone went down on one knee to put the bottle water away and if you noticed closely, he actually nodded to her question. You have to check it out :o

Andrea
01-07-2005, 04:51 PM
:o Is it me or did anyone noticed when Shannon and Boone were on the beach in the 12th episode, when Shannon said. "What are you doing out there...is he your new boyfriend?" If you noticed that right after she said that Boone went down on one knee to put the bottle water away and if you noticed closely, he actually nodded to her question. You have to check it out :o


The nodding was directly preceded by an explanation of "What were you doing out there," e.g., "Looking for Claire." To me, the nodding looked like he was conceding and agreeing to let her in on what they're doing.

This is important, because in the next episode, Boone again confides in Shannon, and it puts her life at risk.

ELTaino74
01-07-2005, 04:54 PM
ANDREA.......I don't know, you should watch that part very carefully. After he went donw on one knee tp put the water away he nodded to her question and then said. "We were looking for Claire"

:lol2:Hey i could be wrong, but its fun to throw things up in the air to see if they stick :lol2:

Karrin Murphy
01-09-2005, 12:14 AM
So taunt or truth ? We'll have to see Boone's back story to find out. The anger that Boone shows toward Sayid seems to say to me that there is something that has happened in the past between the two of them. Ick factor w-a-y up there. I just don't know.

march.hare
01-09-2005, 01:31 PM
I don't think the "is that your new boyfriend" thing neccessarily means anything. I've heard people say things like that before and it doesn't mean anything. But now you've got me imagining Boone and Locke snogging in the jungle. :O

Me and my friend had this theory about guys working in "girly job's" (while we were at the Body Shop). People could think, well look at that guy, he's not working at Sport Check, it's a sign. But then again, a lot of ladies go to "girl stores" (Obviously), thus being an excellent way to pick up ladies.

Of course, I wouldn't throw out the possiblity of Boone being gay, I just don't think there's any major indication that he is. I know guys who dress nicely and thow tantrums over stupid thing, and they're straight.

Fogey
01-09-2005, 04:05 PM
Shannon's remark struck me more as a taunt than as an actual indicator of Boone's orientation. He frequently slams her with very derogatory remarks such as 'your useless'. So her reply in similar style is probably one of the hallmarks of their relationship.

Boones affectations & looks? Where he works? Doesn't mean a thing about orientation. Unless you are a firm believer in typecasting ;)

Sorry about all my edits, I forgot to proof my spelling :P

LostFanForEver
01-09-2005, 04:40 PM
After watching last week's episode and hearing shannon ask him that, i tend to wonder if he really is, or maybe as someone said...he likes guys and girls, he never really said "no" so that leaves it out in the open of maybe he was embarrassed by it, and quickly changed the subject of them looking for claire, theres a chance he could maybe...but then again u never know

kilts_for_boys
01-10-2005, 01:46 PM
I don't really think that there needs to be a gay character on the island, but in theory, as other people have said, with 48 survivors there should be 1 or 2 homosexual people on the island.

If there was one and it was Boone it wouldn't suprise me, out of all the characters I would have suspect him the most, but then again it wouldn't suprise me if he wasn't.

Andrea
01-10-2005, 02:42 PM
Just because he didn't deny it doesn't mean it's a given. It's the sort of comment, under the circumstances, that don't really merit a response.

snoozer157
01-13-2005, 02:35 AM
Yawn.....He's straight

~Lexi~
01-13-2005, 03:54 AM
Now, he could be bi still ... but the chick with the tennis racket looked like his girlfriend

isisfrog
01-13-2005, 06:54 AM
Yawn.....He's straight


Actually, I really would rather that he not be gay, but I thought you should know: plenty of gay men sleep with women. Sex is just sex, after all. An emotional attachment is altogether different...

Willowy
01-13-2005, 11:11 AM
Whatever on the gay thing, but I've just got to say that when Shannon was nuzzling his ear and he closed his eyes and half-heartedly told her to stop... I swear I just about lost it. That was the sexiest thing I've seen in a long time...

I've always thought he was good-looking, but the sexy ratcheted up a few hundred notches last night. At least for me. *Whew*

Andrea
01-13-2005, 12:56 PM
Shannon was nuzzling his ear and he closed his eyes and half-heartedly told her to stop... I swear I just about lost it. That was the sexiest thing I've seen in a long time...

OMG I know! When she bit him and he let out this long sigh, it totally, as we say down South, gave me the vapors.

Willowy
01-13-2005, 01:05 PM
Yes! Usually tv sex scenes are so "hand here, lips here" unsexy things. Not last night. Whoooo, so glad I taped it! ;)

WharffRat
01-14-2005, 04:12 PM
Actually, I really would rather that he not be gay, but I thought you should know: plenty of gay men sleep with women. Sex is just sex, after all. An emotional attachment is altogether different...


Not that there's anything wrong with that

But sleeping with his step-sister....That's like Marsha sleeping with Greg! :sick:


L8r,
WharffRat :chris:

arentwealllost?
01-18-2005, 12:02 PM
I guess I'm not the only one who screamed "EWWWW" really loudly.....lol

nbgemini
01-18-2005, 01:57 PM
Let's remember that his sister asked: "Is he your new boyfriend" when Boone was hanging out with Locke so much. I think that was a hint.

WharffRat
01-18-2005, 01:59 PM
Let's remember that his sister asked: "Is he your new boyfriend" when Boone was hanging out with Locke so much. I think that was a hint.


Maybe he is Bi

L8r,
WharffRat :chris:

Snabbygail
01-20-2005, 10:56 AM
I can't believe there is so much talk about Boone being gay. So what if he was..........he's HOT! I wouldn't care. ;)

vos
03-04-2005, 03:58 AM
Realistically, among 50 or so survivors (and who knows how many other people on the island at this point) there has to be AT LEAST one or two gay people.* It's like on Star Trek where there were hundreds of characters but no one was ever gay. The fact that homosexuality in the future is never addressed *at all* when all other mundane aspects of future living are depicted in minute detail.* It's the big pink elephant in the room.* But the writers of Lost have already answered on the VIP board that they have no plans to make any of the main cast gay at this point, that it's something they may explore in the future with other characters or whatever, so I do think that there will be at least one gay character on the show sooner or later, but I don't think Boone is supposed to be, canonically, gay.*

It's not hard to see why Boone "pings" as gay for a lot of viewers - he's impeccably good looking, obviously works out, dresses well, is concerned about skin care ("We're out of sunscreen, princess")* seems to follow Jack around like a puppy,* is under his sister's thumb, is apparently a Sensitive New Age environmentally friendly kinda guy, is a bleeding-heart liberal, and is now both a lifeguard and a wedding planner.* It's understandable that some people see him as a subtextually gay character.* *

On the other hand, in real life, there are many men that do not conform to popular culture's current expectations of masculinity without necessarily being effeminate.* IMHO Ian Somerhalder is one of those men, and as an actor he has his own brand of masculinity/sexuality that he brings to the character of Boone.* It is not aggressive and overwhelming like, say, Daniel Dae Kim's or* Josh Holloway's sex appeal (though they're both totally gorgeous too).* I think IS's sex appeal is more like that of Naveen Andrews, who is considered less "sexually suspect" probably just by virtue of the fact that he's got a broader build than IS.* (Real men must be physically dominant, you know!* *::) )* But they have a similar sort of brainy, brooding thing going for them that to me makes them their own brand of sexy.

It's a shame that people's view of femininity has become so expansive in the last 100 years, but people's view of masculinity has remained extremely narrow and any man who falls out of line with that is immediately branded as "sexually suspect." I'll get off my soapbox now, but I guess what I'm trying to say is, I get why people wonder about Boone, but I also think it's a little depressing that a lot of fans think it's a given that he MUST be gay just because he's not a stereotype.* In truth, narratively speaking, Boone's a blank slate and I'm enjoying him that way. *shrug*



Hey, I know you posted this months ago but I just read it and wanted to compliment you on writing such a terrific post. I think you've touched on a major reason for why some dislike Boone so much. He doesn't conform to the traditional "manly man" stereotype. Men are supposed to hide and deny their weaknesses and limitations, but Boone puts a spotlight on them by pushing himself to do things he's not prepared for rather than just staying within his own comfort zone and only doing what he knows he can succeed at. For this he is called incompetent. I call it being human.

He realizes his flaws and efforts to change and better himself. He takes direction from others because he realizes he is not ready to be a leader. He tries to be of any help he can rather than acting with arrogant independence and only doing what serves his interests. In many, many ways he defies peoples' expectations of what a "man" should be, and I appreciate him for it.

pterodactyl
03-04-2005, 02:33 PM
Boone makes my gaydar go off. My gay friends all became sort of drooly over him the first time I made them watch the show. Not that that makes him gay, but he is definitely one who attracts the crowd. And the Shannon comment does make me a bit suspicious. I remember it sticking out as weird in my head when she said it. It could be one of the rifts in the Boone/Shannon relationship.

But, we really don't have enough proof to say either way.

addicted2much
03-04-2005, 09:10 PM
He's just a pretty man. ;D

vos
03-06-2005, 10:59 AM
Boone makes my gaydar go off. My gay friends all became sort of drooly over him the first time I made them watch the show. Not that that makes him gay, but he is definitely one who attracts the crowd. And the Shannon comment does make me a bit suspicious. I remember it sticking out as weird in my head when she said it. It could be one of the rifts in the Boone/Shannon relationship.

But, we really don't have enough proof to say either way.


I think Shannon was just using it as a comeback. It's just the way they talk to each other. There is much inherent sexual innuendo in two men going into the jungle alone together for long periods of time claiming to be "hunting" and never bringing back anything. I think we can safely say Boone isn't gay because of his obsession and sexual relations with Shannon.

Andrea
03-06-2005, 04:08 PM
Boone makes my gaydar go off. My gay friends all became sort of drooly over him the first time I made them watch the show. Not that that makes him gay, but he is definitely one who attracts the crowd.
Well, there you have it. If gay people find you attractive, it must mean you're gay too. Who can argue with that logic? =)

Fogey
03-06-2005, 04:39 PM
Well, there you have it. If gay people find you attractive, it must mean you're gay too. Who can argue with that logic? =)
I think I see how that works :P But the converse doesn't work: My being attracted to Emilie DeRaven doesn't make me Australian (or female) :lol2:

Footlooser
04-05-2005, 06:28 PM
:) So that means that Brad Pitt is gay. Awsome, he's mine.

Bescky
04-05-2005, 06:29 PM
Well, there you have it. If gay people find you attractive, it must mean you're gay too. Who can argue with that logic? =)



OMG that was funny. I just had to reply to it.

islandchica
04-05-2005, 06:33 PM
I really don't think he's gay. I mean, there are already tons of gay people on reality tv and other popular shows so I just don't think the Lost writers would do that. It's kind of below them. I mean, he COULD be gay (every character has lots of secrets), but I doubt it.


I'm sure there are SOME gay people on the island though, even if it's not one of the main 14 :angel:

Bescky
04-05-2005, 06:37 PM
I really don't think he's gay. I mean, there are already tons of gay people on reality tv and other popular shows so I just don't think the Lost writers would do that. It's kind of below them. I mean, he COULD be gay (every character has lots of secrets), but I doubt it.


I'm sure there are SOME gay people on the island though, even if it's not one of the main 14* :angel:



LOL. Maybe Ethan was gay that's probably why he tried to get rid of Charlie and punched Jack. Ok that's probably just stupid so I wont say anything else.

islandchica
04-05-2005, 06:40 PM
LOL. Maybe Ethan was gay that's probably why he tried to get rid of Charlie and punched Jack. Ok that's probably just stupid so I wont say anything else.


No, that was funny. Gay Ethan. Probably! :lol2:

Bescky
04-05-2005, 06:42 PM
Well I thought it was stupid so I stopped myself while I was ahead.

lostnlaguna
04-05-2005, 06:57 PM
Andrea, he's COO of one of Sabrina's subsidiaries. ;)

islandchica
04-05-2005, 07:00 PM
Boone isn't gay, he's Aurora10's fiance!!! :P

Aurora10
04-05-2005, 07:02 PM
Exactly! ;D Okay, who's the one who started posting in this thread again? ::taps foot:: lol

Bescky
04-05-2005, 07:04 PM
LOL the one that started it. :P

Danny
04-05-2005, 10:44 PM
I just have a simple question... how do we know boone is liberal again? did i miss something.. i guess i should assume they all are liberal tho... most everyone is these days.

sawyergirl2
04-06-2005, 12:34 AM
I say yes just for the heck of it! ;)

Aurora10
04-06-2005, 12:36 AM
What?!

vos
04-06-2005, 02:34 AM
I just have a simple question... how do we know boone is liberal again? did i miss something.. i guess i should assume they all are liberal tho... most everyone is these days.


Shannon said he was one and he didn't like the "Patriot Act."

~Lexi~
04-06-2005, 11:52 AM
I really don't think he's gay. I mean, there are already tons of gay people on reality tv and other popular shows so I just don't think the Lost writers would do that. It's kind of below them. I mean, he COULD be gay (every character has lots of secrets), but I doubt it.


I'm sure there are SOME gay people on the island though, even if it's not one of the main 14* :angel:


I just wonder if you could clarify what you mean by the 'It's kind of below them' comment.

Danny
04-06-2005, 05:19 PM
LIke, it's very stereotypical for writers to put in a gay or lesbian to not "offend" anyone... but these writers dont' have to stoop to that level to fulfill stereotypes.

Bescky
04-06-2005, 05:25 PM
I just have a simple question... how do we know boone is liberal again? did i miss something.. i guess i should assume they all are liberal tho... most everyone is these days.



When Shannon said "He's a liberal." It was in the episode Raised by Another.

lost-lotr
04-07-2005, 03:58 PM
Well, I guess we'll never find out.

R.I.P. Boone Carslisle :unhappy:

fateislost
04-07-2005, 06:49 PM
why would you **speculat** that.. he loved his sister for peetz sake :lol2:

excuse me *step *sister

~Lexi~
04-08-2005, 03:57 AM
why would you **speculat** that.. he loved his sister for peetz sake :lol2:

excuse me *step *sister


He could be have been bi.


And as for the stooping to some level? I don't see how including a character with a different sexual preference than the others is stooping... or even filling stereotypes... I mean should we consider Walt and Michael the 'token' black guys... or Jin and Sun the 'token asians'? I don't think it's a question of fufilling stereotypes... yes I wouldn't want to see someone's sexual preference to become a huge overblown thing in an episode... but saying that including someone who would represent the gay and lesbian scene isn't stooping to fufill a stereotype. If a character who was gay or lesbian were introduced I believe people should react to it as an 'oh, another aspect of that characters life'... I mean when watching TV gay and lesbian people don't go 'OMG a Straight person!!!' so why should straight people go 'OMG a gay person!!!'?

vos
04-08-2005, 06:47 AM
Exactly, Lexi. Well said.

~Lexi~
04-08-2005, 11:19 AM
Exactly, Lexi. Well said.


Thank you... I did kinda ramble on... and I didn't mean to... but gosh darn.. some topics I just have to address.

island_hottie
04-08-2005, 12:41 PM
I just can't believe this thread exists. *shakes head*

Fogey
04-08-2005, 01:29 PM
Walt and Michael the 'token' black guys... Well since Rose is not a guy ::)
or Jin and Sun the 'token asians'?No they are the token married couple. ;D

Boone or another if portrayed as Gay or Bi, then I would agree with, I believe people should react to it as an 'oh, another aspect of that characters life'...

Thanks Lexi, for your reasoned post.

flora
04-08-2005, 04:20 PM
I just can't believe this thread exists.* **shakes head*




What I can't believe is that thread is STILL going after all this time! The character is DEAD now- it doesn't matter what his sexual orientation is/was, as if it ever did.

fateislost
04-08-2005, 05:55 PM
it does too matter- hes not actually dead hes stil part of the show- hell be in backstories y'now?? :angel:

flora
04-08-2005, 06:17 PM
I was just responding to island_hottie's post about the ridiculousness of this thread. This thread has been active since December (!!!!) despite all the evidence to the contrary that Boone was not gay. It's a silly topic, and since I posted on it waaaaaay back in Dec. it keeps popping up on my "updated topics" list- and what's weird is it is always near the top, meaning it gets a lot of attention! Damn...see what being bored at work and engrossed in "Lost" gets ya? It gets you the "Is Boone Gay?" thread following you around for months, that's what it gets ya!

fateislost
04-08-2005, 06:31 PM
omg were like the tabloider... (cant remember the word for people who stalk celbrities... someone help) :lol2:

Fogey
04-08-2005, 07:01 PM
I think this thread has survived because it has drifted into an examination of the use of stereotypes and innuendo by writers. Not because we are really concerned about Boone’s orientation.

fateislost
04-08-2005, 07:05 PM
umm.. do u realy think so

momo
04-08-2005, 11:30 PM
I had a dream that he was!!!! It felt so real!!! But then that would blow my theory that Boone and Shannon are secretly in love with each other...


Haha! Me too! Except I dreamt that I WAS Boone and I had sex with Sawyer!!

Aurora10
04-09-2005, 12:36 AM
:lol2:

~Lexi~
04-09-2005, 02:04 AM
Haha! Me too! Except I dreamt that I WAS Boone and I had sex with Sawyer!!



ok... sharing a lil too much here.

island_hottie
04-09-2005, 03:36 AM
Please, let this thread die and rest in peace along with the memory of Boone.
It doesn't matter one way or another whether the Boone character was gay or not.
It never did.
And it never should have.
If any of you are still too immature to understand that, then I feel for you.

~Lexi~
04-09-2005, 12:58 PM
Please, let this thread die and rest in peace along with the memory of Boone.
It doesn't matter one way or another whether the Boone character was gay or not.
It never did.
And it never should have.
If any of you are still too immature to understand that, then I feel for you.



As Fogey has said already... this thread kinda evolved into something else...


I think this thread has survived because it has drifted into an examination of the use of stereotypes and innuendo by writers. Not because we are really concerned about Boone’s orientation.


See? And I think she's right. I don't think analyzing the use or lack of use of stereotypes makes us immature.

messiecake
04-09-2005, 01:01 PM
I thought possibly Steve and Scott were partners due to the comment s by Hurley of everyone wondering how Scott was taking the death............

fateislost
04-10-2005, 11:31 AM
lets follow IslandHottie's advice cuz im tired of seeing on my newreply list "Is Boone Gay?"
lol ;D

Ian_MaggieFan
04-11-2005, 10:52 PM
Obviously Boone wouldn't be gay if he was inlove with Shannon.

lost-lotr
04-12-2005, 05:01 PM
lets follow IslandHottie's advice cuz im tired of seeing on my newreply list "Is Boone Gay?"
lol ;D


So am I. I just got curious WHY this thread was still here. :laugh:

dave3011
04-12-2005, 09:50 PM
Answering the question directly from your title, I would say, yes - yes he is.

island_hottie
04-12-2005, 10:44 PM
Please, people, let this die.
It's getting ridiculous.

Aurora10
04-12-2005, 11:03 PM
I really don't know why this thread is still being discussed.

Cin
04-12-2005, 11:55 PM
Ok --- I don't usually hang out in these character threads that much, but as I logged in this evening, this caught my eye. I must say my answer to the threads question would be an emphatic NO. For the record the absolute only thing that would even make this a topic is some totally random comment by Shannon of all people - who for the record was in one of her "spoiled little sister" modes when she said it. She was clearly trying to say whatever she could to get under Boone's skin at the time -- and it almost worked. He directly left her and brought up the subject of telling her the truth to Locke. All we ever saw of Boone indicates that he was NOT swingin' that way - but obviously that doesn't hold quite enough drama now does it?

Do you all realize that people from all over this board, Boone fans or not, are paying respect to this character and Ian Somerhalder at this time. The fact that it is now being used as some sort of joke for discussion both disturbs and worries me. You can start your own group at any time over in the group ships thread at any time.

Ian_MaggieFan
04-13-2005, 01:44 AM
Sorry to all those who think it, but no "Fabulous Gayness" coming from Boone! lol.

~Lexi~
04-13-2005, 08:43 AM
Can I just take a moment a laugh? Now while those who actually read some of the posts after Boone passed might have realized that this conversation took a slightly more serious turn in regards to looking at the use of gay/lesbian stereotypes in shows (at least for a few post... by a few people).... the only reason it keeps going (at least for the -majority- of the last two pages) is people not even bothering to read the thread (though not all) but just posting 'Why is this continuing?'.... I'll tell you why.... because you all keep asking that question.


((BTW this thread was posted before Shannons comment.... just wanna clarify that up....))

bigdawg
05-04-2005, 09:06 AM
anyway, i think u should change the topic to .... "was Boone gay" ;)