I wonder at the significance of us being told that Kate is a Gemini and her reply to Sawyer "Not exactly like me." Could it be that they don't know each other but do know of each other through her twin? (Current status of the twin and possible estrangements unknown.)

I must not be reading something you are reading. Can you either point me in the direction of the twin theory or just write an overview right her please?

twin sounds interesting..........but maybe too much of an alias twist.

It was established through Claire that Kate is a Gemini (exact birthdate not given). The Zodiac sign Gemini is symbolized by/as The Twins.

ETA That could be speaker, I'm afraid I'm not up on that series.

Wow! I highly suggest along with Speaker and all the JJ fans that the next time you(Grackle) have forty dollars to spare just go buy season one of Alias and watch watch watch that show and love it. If you live by me I will allow you to borrow the first three season.


I did not want to add another post just for this comment: Speaker, sorry I meant you would suggest along with me to have Grackle watch the show. I was being kind of wordy on this previous sentence so I understand your misconseption :jump1:

my what...i told you...i've seen alias until season three...i have season three...watching it now :-)

C'mon folks, let's get some serious speculating going on here...

Here's what we 'know' about her:
* 1.* In her early 20's and already in deep do-do with the law.
* 2.* Had to be an 'escaped felon' or 'fugitive from justice' to have a U.S. Marshall returning her to the U.S. - this ain't no domestic dispute, folks.* She went thru extradition to be on that plane.
* 3.* I got the impression that she had run-ins with the Marshall before - probably got away from him a couple of times.* He really had some axe to grind with her, so based upon what I know from Karen Sisco, he was probably pissed that he had to chase her all the way to 'down under'.
* 4.* Formed an immediate attachment to Jack, although that's natural since girls always fall for the damn doctors...
* 5.* Is very independent and capable - not scared of nothin'.* Tough enough to stitch up Jack's wound with no experience.* Might be a farm girl and used to blood.* Or, seen lots of blood in some other way...
* 6.* Can handle men pretty well - got Sawyer eating out of her hand, so to speak.* Definitely some experience there, but still young enough to go all teenager with the tall, dark doctors...* Sayid seems to respect her (which is saying something for an Iraqi man)!
* 7.* Definitely wants 'off' the island, enough to split, temporarily, with her tall, dark doctor man.* Therefore has something to go home to, or for - the island isn't redemption to her.* Or, more probably, now that I think on it, just wants a larger gene-pool to select from, or some such civilized stuff.
* 8.* Definitely 'star-crossed' with Jack - don't think he's really interested in slender young murderesses.* Besides, he's got some REAL issues with that horrible set of parents he got stuck with, not to mention the 'ghost of fathers past' still hanging around.
* 9.* More of a match for Sawyer, since he's really got a big 'thing' (pun not intended) for her.* Definitely SOME connection (at least on his part) with her.* More to come on this subject...after next week's episode.

Okay, your turn, peoples.* Dive right in, the water's fine...* :sorcerer:

* 7.* Definitely wants 'off' the island, enough to split, temporarily, with her tall, dark doctor man.* Therefore has something to go home to, or for - the island isn't redemption to her.* Or, more probably, now that I think on it, just wants a larger gene-pool to select from, or some such civilized stuff.
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OK, coming in a little late with this. But I think Kate's staying on the beach was not that she had something to go home to, or that she wants a "larger gene-pool" (really, how many women actually think like that?). I think it was a rebellion against the "Digging In". She's been on the run for a while. When she was with the one-armed man in Australia, she didn't want to stay long, even though to all appearances she was "Safe" at least for awhile. My thought is that she can't stand being in one place for very long, and was worried about getting claustorphobic in the caves.

I also think she was a bit annoyed that Doctor Boy didn't stay with her. And went anyway, even when she told him she wasn't leaving.

FINALLY, some action!* Welcome, Kimber!!!


...But I think Kate's staying on the beach was not ... that she wants a "larger gene-pool" (really, how many women actually think like that?).


Ahem, you were asking that rhetorically, right?* OldWiz (me) is snarky - a lot, but I just 'love' it when someone falls into my trapses.* Tee hee, you fell!* There's all kinds of socio-anthropological data that proves...* No, I won't do it - you're too nice.


I think it was a rebellion against the "Digging In".* She's been on the run for a while. When she was with the one-armed man in Australia, she didn't want to stay long, even though to all appearances she was "Safe" at least for awhile. My thought is that she can't stand being in one place for very long, and was worried about getting claustorphobic in the caves.*


I think you're actually onto something here,* Our Kate's Bigger Truth, so to speak, but we're going to have to wait a long time before we 'know'.


I also think she was a bit annoyed that Doctor Boy didn't stay with her. And went anyway, even when she told him she wasn't leaving.


By George!* I do believe you've got it!* This fits nicely with my theory that she's early 20-ish and goes teeny-boppery every now and then.* Definitely got her 'nose' out of joint when Dear Doctor didn't react 'properly' to her Calvin Klein advertisement.* Bet it ends up tying in with some real male rejection/trust issues at the root, so to speak, of her backstory.* *

Good thoughts deserve good answers... :sorcerer:

Kimber,
I think you're right on the reasons Kate didn't want to move to the valley, she was simply not ready to settle in on the island. But I think that Kate got annoyed at Jack, not because he left without her, but because he just assumed she would follow him. He never really asked her what she felt about it. Kate told Jack that she wasn't convinced the caves were a good idea, yet he still assumed she would be going, just because he was. I think that is what upset her about the situation.

Ahem, you were asking that rhetorically, right?* OldWiz (me) is snarky - a lot, but I just 'love' it when someone falls into my trapses.* Tee hee, you fell!* There's all kinds of socio-anthropological data that proves...* No, I won't do it - you're too nice.

Then you don't know me very well, yet. :angel: I don't fall often.

While one can find many instances of women choosing to date a male member of society based (at least subconsciously) on superior genes and the survival of the fittest, it is rarely a thought for a twenty-something.. what was it you called her? Teeny-bopper Calvin Klein ad? ;) Seriously, socio-anthropological data notwithstanding, an American woman of Kate's age is not really the demographic you'd find in a field study. (And didn't they prove Margaret Mead to be full of hooey?)

Besides, I'd say with Sawyer, Foxy, Sayid, and Hobbit Boy around - she's got a pretty good gene pool right there. Dontcha think?

Perhaps we need tags so no one is confused? :)

Kimber,
I think you're right on the reasons Kate didn't want to move to the valley, she was simply not ready to settle in on the island. But I think that Kate got annoyed at Jack, not because he left without her, but because he just assumed she would follow him. He never really asked her what she felt about it. Kate told Jack that she wasn't convinced the caves were a good idea, yet he still assumed she would be going, just because he was. I think that is what upset her about the situation.


Excellent point. I hate when men do that.

While one can find many instances of women choosing to date a male member of society based (at least subconsciously) on superior genes and the survival of the fittest, it is rarely a thought for a twenty-something..


Snap, crackle, crunch... (sound of old man stepping on toesies).* Excuse me.* Pardon me.* Sorry.* But... attraction is NEVER a conscious thought process - it's all in the genes and pheromones, and biological Timexes.* Except for Golddiggers... but that isn't attraction.


what was it you called her? Teeny-bopper Calvin Klein ad?* ;)*


No, no, no!* (Sound of tears dripping from old misunderstood face...) I was talking about her action (bending over showing shapely bottom - like the Calvin Klein ads), not her character.* Kate has a really great character (no snark, really...).


Seriously, socio-anthropological data notwithstanding, an American woman of Kate's age is not really the demographic you'd find in a field study. (And didn't they prove Margaret Mead to be full of hooey?)


Actually, studies on attraction, sex, and marriage (my wife tells me they're sort of interrelated...) are all the vogue recently.* <snark> You know when they actually discovered that boys and girls were different in the 90's </snark>* Lots of studies on the effect of pheromones on the brain (and other portions of the anatomy) and most studies utilize college-age women since they are most likely/able to volunteer.* Margaret Mead may still apply since she was most focused on primitive cultures and that is where island survivors may be heading...


Besides, I'd say with Sawyer, Foxy, Sayid, and Hobbit Boy around - she's got a pretty good gene pool right there. Dontcha think?


Sorry, not qualified to judge...but what the heck, that never stopped me before:*
Jack, not interested at the moment;
Sawyer, really handsome pigger and premiere snarker;
Sayid, probably married Muslim - not a great match;
Charlie?* Charlie?* Besides, he's already taken with Claire...
Michael, basking in the Sun-shine...
Jin, might be available soon...

It might just be me, but if Kate were my daughter, I'd hope she'd be looking for a few more choices...* Although, Dr. Jack is good.* Doctor's are good.


Damn, I stepped on my wand again... :sorcerer:

Jack is indeed attracted to Kate but will not pursue the relationship.

"Sawyer" is being unfairly judged and is the way he is because he just does not know any better. Know need to feel sorry for the man but come on, "Sawyer's" mom cheated on his dad and dad took the lives of both parents. Allot of issues in the boys mind. "Sawyer" is just as much the victim.

Sayid is not married and will probably hook up with the French lady.

I hope Charlie does hook up with Claire.

Michael hopes to hook up with Sun but will never have the option because she is married. Michael may still be a choice.

Jin will not be available anytime soon.

I'm voting Jack on this one.......Sawyer treats her like crap and has too many issues, I really do not think Sayid is interested in her that way...its more a friendship thing, Charlie is def. taken by claire, Michael wants Sun, and Jin....well that would be just wrong....how would they even communicate?? lol.....so I have to go with the good ole doctor...

:lol2: JacknKate1 - is your sn meant to be sexual or does it just sound that way? When I first saw it I figured you meant something like "Jacking Kate" but I could be very wrong and just have a filthy mind. :lol2:

hahaha you DO have a dirty mind...although now that I think about it, it could be taken the wrong way....but no its not meant that way....its to show that my personal preference for this show is to have a jack and kate relationship/companionship whatever

About and hour and 45 minutes left!! yesss..............well I am hoping that Kate is going to leave Sawyer's childish ways behind and go for the good doc, but one can only hope ;)

Aside from genepools for Kate and such, I just thought of something:


What if Kate doesn't have a "literal" twin?
Grackle's right- the Gemini sign does represent the "twins", but what if, WHAT IF, the writers tossed this in as a metaphor or to foreshadow a split personality? A split from one's self?

I'm not saying multiple personality, and maybe not even a true psychological split......It's much more subtle than that-- maybe one that Kate can't personally reconcile with: She's two sides of a coin:

1) There's the Kate who is kind, nurturing, helpful. We've seen her stitch up Jack, help Claire when Jack was chasing the White Rabbit, help Sayid with the distress call, etc.

2) But then, there's the* Kate who is a murderer....someone who, for whatever reason, took another human life.

If she is the kind, helpful person we believe her to be, she would still be struggling with that fact--profoundly questioning who she really is-- no matter how hardened she likes to think she is...

Thinkers-- what say you?

Here's what we 'know' about her:
* 1.* In her early 20's and already in deep do-do with the law.
*

Did I miss a clue in an episode to this or is this just your theory? :) I thought her much more likely to be in her early 30's, maybe even 35, she just seems to have a more mature mindset to her than your average 22ish year old.

I definitely don't think Kate is in her 30's.....most likely mid-20's. Evie is 25, and kinda looks younger sometimes. Kate told the farmer she had just gotten out of college and was travelling (we know that she lied quite a bit to the farmer, and this is probably a lie too, but she would have to pass for around 22 or so to get away with that lie).

Also, didn't Shannon say something like she thinks Kate is only a couple of years older than her? And Shannon is probably early 20's.

Yeah, I think Kate is in her mid twenties (24-27ish) while Shannon is probably earlier twenties (21-23ish). Of course, while there may not be a huge difference in their ages, there is a HUGE difference in their maturity. It probably has a lot to do with their back stories. I speculate that Kate had to be independent at a young age while Shannon was( and probably still) is very spoiled.

Aside from genepools for Kate and such, I just thought of something:


What if Kate doesn't have a "literal" twin?
Grackle's right- the Gemini sign does represent the "twins", but what if, WHAT IF, the writers tossed this in as a metaphor or to foreshadow a split personality? A split from one's self?

I'm not saying multiple personality, and maybe not even a true psychological split......It's much more subtle than that-- maybe one that Kate can't personally reconcile with: She's two sides of a coin:>


I took this in the context Gemini's are often one way* around ppl, and another in private. A very blatant reference on the part of the writers Kate may not be as she seems.

<If she is the kind, helpful person we believe her to be, she would still be struggling with that fact--profoundly questioning who she really is-- no matter how hardened she likes to think she is...>

Another is she's grey like the rest of the characters.....Being driven by opposing motives when her heart tells her something else...I think these flashes of kindness is who she really is, but like Sawyer, she struggles with "allowing" herself to be that person and not who she believes she is. Both struggle ,I think, with a sort of idenitiy crisis. Their past actions/crimes/ defining who they are more so than other characters. I mean Jack* has issues for example, but he's not confused about who he is so much as what he's capable of.* Does that make sense?* :P Self esteem issues vs. identity issues.

kate jones I have to ask-what does it mean your avatar is not an edorsement for said ship-that you're just a fan of the 2 characters but not together?Just curious ;)

banshee-

About my avatar, I made it mainly beacuse I LOVED the photograph. I do like Jack and I do like Kate, but I haven't committed to any 'ship in particular. I'm keeping my options open! :)

5. Is very independent and capable - not scared of nothin'...

6. Can handle men pretty well ...

Sorry, OldWiz, I'm not seeing Kate as the above. What did she do when she saw Sayid and Jack dragging Sawyer off into the jungle? She stomped her foot and said, "If you do this..." She'll do what? Get in their way and try to stop them herself? Nope. Go get some of the others to help her stop them? Nope. Make any sort of fuss at all? Nope. When she talks to Sawyer later (the "big kiss" scene), does she untie him? Let him go? Nope. Then two days later, she's giving Jack a hard time about torturing Sawyer. Sorry, hon, if you were so morally opposed to it, you had plenty of opportunities to prevent it, but you didn't. You don't get to sound self-righteous after that.

And why do men/characters in their mid-thirties always have to be chasing after women/characters in their mid-twenties? *sigh* (Coming from a 32 yr old!)

Julia

Lets think about something here. WE are all speculating that Kate did something to get in trouble with the law. More than likely this is true. But what if the Marshall wasnt after her for a crime? What if the two of them had something going on at one time and for whatever reason she left him. He may know what she did wrong, but it might not be the reason he chased her down. Maybe he was obsessed with her, since he chased her to another continent to get her (I mean really, what hideous crime could she commit to be chased to another country?) I think she definitely had feelings for him at some time since she put the oxygen on him on the plane and then couldnt kill him herself (in my mind it was a mercy killing because he was suffering and going to die eventually anyway).

I think Kate is CIA or someone in the highly trained arena of crime. Did you see her bad-*** elbow move on Sawyer? Pop! It wasn't a girly little slap, but an all-out Sydney-style move. I don't worry for Kate's safety.

got ya katejones ;)

no kiddin Id-she did kinda pull a Sydney didn't she? With Charlie too in the pilot. I took that as a product of her having to fend for herself. I haven't decided if I think she was actually in prison, but:

her upcoming ep/past is she's involved in multiple offenses, we have a flashback in a bank, and a gruffly handsome NM guy who is not a model citizen getting nabbed in a Santa costume going through customs. I think Kate got mixed up in something but maybe she got screwed over too.

Speaking as a quadruple Gemini, I can speculate that Kate is just Kate and not a twin, as I don't have 7 brothers and sisters. Also...I would guess that one of the main writers on the show is also a Gemini because we Geminis think that Gemini is the *Best Zodiac Sign* and like to tell you so too.

Kate + Sawyer = chemistry
Kate + Sayid = mutual respect (but man, do they NOT look FINE TOGETHER!!!)
Kate + Jack = <yawn>

Someone said something on the last page about Sayid's respect for Kate being ironic because he's Iraqi. That is such garbage. Women in Iraq (prior to our invasion anyway...as the religious fanatics have come out of the woodwork since then) held very high status, in fact they enjoyed the most opportunity of any women in the Middle East. In "Solitary", it didn't seem that he was taken aback by the prospect of a female insurgent (nor did the other guards seem to have any problem with torturing a female insurgent- but that might not be the best example). Also...we don't know for sure he is Muslim; probably, but not certainly. Up to one out of every five people in Iraq were not Muslim (prior to this war anyway). Besides, aside from that one very unfortunate torture incident, we haven't seen Sayid act disrespectful to anyone in anyway. He's a gentleman- which is ironic given he was a Republican Guard.

Well, Say-id could have always been a gentlemen even as a Republican Guard. People find themselves in places where they probably should not be simply because of circumstance. It is not always a choice.

And maybe this is where Kate's story comes in to play.... Or maybe she is one bad chick who figures she could use this as a second chance at utopia being as the first maybe failed miserably....

Oh and kudos to flora...I think you and I have similar opinions on the present state of American foreign policy. But enough on that and more on Lost...

I think Kate is CIA or someone in the highly trained arena of crime. Did you see her bad-*** elbow move on Sawyer? Pop! It wasn't a girly little slap, but an all-out Sydney-style move. I don't worry for Kate's safety.


Yet she seemed paniced when she held the gun, why? Maybe because she has shot someone before and didn't want to do it again. She also didn't know how to remove the clip form the gun so I seriously doubt she's CIA. I think she is trained in the crime arena, but I think she's been the one committing the crimes. Maybe not a career criminal like Sawyer, but she's no angel. I think she got caught up in something, things went wrong and she ended up killing someone, maybe even someone she loved.

obviously I don't think Jack and Kate are boring ;) I like the whole opposites attract thing and think they have a lot of multi faceted chemistry....but I agree I don't think Kate's 100% innocent.

Just because she's brought up her parents in the past 2 episodes, I'm thinking that whatever she did probably has to do with them. She could also be missing her family or have gotten into something definately against their wishes, but I think it has something to do with their death. She learned from her father, what would happen if they were tracking deer one day and he got killed? everyone would think it was her and find some motive. The U.S. Marshall may have even known her from before that, especially since she was in an army family. She probably escaped custody after they wouldn't believe her story, climbing worse than the tree she climbed in Walkabout. Though she definately hasn't been completely innocent while on the run.
And if Jack opens up, there will definately be something going on there. Sayid still has to work on getting over Nadia, and he probably will work on bringing Danielle back to civilization (their civilization, anyway) and sometging may happen there. And Sawyer? I see them as becoming real good friends, exact opposite of the beginning, seeing the way they treated eachother.

Just because she's brought up her parents in the past 2 episodes, I'm thinking that whatever she did probably has to do with them. She could also be missing her family or have gotten into something definately against their wishes, but I think it has something to do with their death.


I was thinking along these lines as well, Varda. Of course, my theories didn't make Kate so innocent though. I was thinking maybe her dad wasn't really a good guy. He could have been a criminal and Kate may have gotten mixed up in his business. Maybe she accidentially killed him during the comission of a robbery or had to kill someone else (ohhh... maybe a cop) to save her own father. OR maybe she had to kill her father to protect her mom? I do think her parents will come up in the next episode though, somehow.

That would be to easy for the writers to say she has a twin. I think she has two sides to her. Just like most people do.

Maybe Kate was in the witness protection program and skipped town. Might explain why she was chummy with the marshal but he was bringing her back in. You are supposed to stay put if you agree to it, and you cant see any of your family unless they agree to go with you and leave their lives behind as well, although most times they wont let you take family (except spouse) You are in protective custody for a period of time, at least until the trial and then a time after, but you have to stay put.

Maybe Kate was a bank robber who's pals eventually murdered a child during the course of a robbery and after then she decided to hide out in Austrailia till the marshal found her?

Kate is ex CIA or Military, she can use a gun in either hand, shoot around a corner and take a man down with out killing him. (bank robbery)

Lies with ease, and take up identies annie on the farm, maggie the robber & photographer (undercover, agent)..

Saves the farmer even though he turned her in, wounds the bank robber instead of letting him kill manager, puts air mask on marshall.. basicly good

can climb trees, head butt, basic first aid sews jack, pick pockets the marshalls key, track, sneek up on sleeping people, understands communication equipement.. etc.

wanted what was in the safe deposit box bad enough to set up a robbery to get it, I think she knew what was in there.

then wanted it enough on the island (it wasn't going anywhere, safely locked and on the bottom of the lake) to use up the last of the trust to con jack into opening it.. it had to be on her when arrested as it was in the personal effect envelope the marhall had, and he said "maybe they will believe your story".

question, why did she take the toy airplane from new mexico bank safe depoist box to austrailia? where is she wanted, if she's being extridited back to the U.S., who was she going to show the plane to? where was the crime committed? she born in california, learned to track in washington state.

hummmm... had to have the military toy plane in her hand.

now my speculation, the island can conjur up what you think or fear? polar bears, huge monsters, guitars. maybe she wants to think of a military rescue plane hard enough for one to appear.

or it is the key evidance to clear her of the crime and restore her good name, incase they ever get rescued. Had to have it! she couldn't clear her name and prove her inocense without this toy plane.
related to the military, her father, the man she loved, the man she killed, the crime she convicted of, the crime she can explain with the toy plane. A twin sister/brother commited the crime and had put the plane in the safe deposit box, and framed Kate.

course her constant lying, is a real problem for Jack who turned in his own dad for lying... trust issues.

that's all I have at this time. will think about it some more.

Nice points brewerr. I think Kate has to be something more than the average crook. She's got skills, as they say.

I am interested in her story, the one that the Marshal so snidely said no one would believe, and maybe that story has to do with planes somehow. If she was some kind of rouge CIA or FBI with information or on some kind of trail she was following (the bank scene reminded me a lot of ALIAS and some of the little puzzle pieces that need to be followed to reach the real goal) or something along those lines. I'd think that if she was in trouble with the CIA or FBI and had at one time also worked for them the appropriate agency would be the ones to bring her in and not a Marshal. She might be from whatever department the Marshal was from and that is why he seems to have a personal stake in bringing her in and being so snotty about it in the process.

on kate's (what is her real name? or last name?) mug shot it was from Harrison Valley Police dpt... there is a Harrison Valley in PA.. population 1,083.. what did Kate do there? she robbed the bank in New Mexico.

She told Ray the farmer she was Canadian.

She might have crossed paths with Locke in Melbourn. the farmers ranch was 15 kilometers out of Melbourne and they were on their way into town when the Marshal arrested her.

Locke was at the Melbourne branch of the walkabout office (it was printed on the window) when they sprung for the ticket from Melbourne back to Sydney..

so Kate and Locke probably flew back from Melbourne to Sydney on the same flight to connect to the Oceanic flt 815... wouldn't she have noticed he was in a wheelchair? especially if they had to change planes.

Do you think her toy plane DC3 is connected to the DC3 on the bedside table of Claire (it was a little larger)?

things that make you go hummmmm?

Locke was at the Melbourne branch of the walkabout office (it was printed on the window) when they sprung for the ticket from Melbourne back to Sydney..

so Kate and Locke probably flew back from Melbourne to Sydney on the same flight to connect to the Oceanic flt 815... wouldn't* she have noticed he was in a wheelchair? especially if they had to change planes.


Interesting...

As for Kate not noticing Locke in a wheelchair- she had other things on her mind at the time... ;)

quote from Foxygirl33:
) There's the Kate who is kind, nurturing, helpful. We've seen her stitch up Jack, help Claire when Jack was chasing the White Rabbit, help Sayid with the distress call, etc.

2) But then, there's the* Kate who is a murderer....someone who, for whatever reason, took another human life.



That would be to easy for the writers to say she has a twin.* I think she has two sides to her.* Just like most people do.*


I think Foxygirl33's right.* The Gemini reference is to the two sides that she has, but I also agree with jwpage - don't we all have 2 sides?* *;)

Lets think about something here. WE are all speculating that Kate did something to get in trouble with the law. More than likely this is true. But what if the Marshall wasnt after her for a crime? What if the two of them had something going on at one time and for whatever reason she left him. He may know what she did wrong, but it might not be the reason he chased her down. Maybe he was obsessed with her, since he chased her to another continent to get her (I mean really, what hideous crime could she commit to be chased to another country?) I think she definitely had feelings for him at some time since she put the oxygen on him on the plane and then couldnt kill him herself (in my mind it was a mercy killing because he was suffering and going to die eventually anyway).


Yeah, I was thinking too that maybe she didn't commit any crime (even though she said she killed the man she loved, it could have been an accident). I'm specifically referring to the comment the Marshal made on the plane when he said:

U.S. MARSHAL: (to Kate) You look worried. I'd be worried, too, if I was you.
But you've gotta stay positive, kiddo. You know that there's always that off
chance that they'll believe your story. I know I sure do.

It's as if he knew her story was true, maybe because he may have been involved.

Yeah, I was thinking too that maybe she didn't commit any crime (even though she said she killed the man she loved, it could have been an accident). I'm specifically referring to the comment the Marshal made on the plane when he said:

U.S. MARSHAL: (to Kate) You look worried. I'd be worried, too, if I was you.
But you've gotta stay positive, kiddo. You know that there's always that off
chance that they'll believe your story. I know I sure do.

It's as if he knew her story was true, maybe because he may have been involved.


I don't know, I was under the impression that the Marshal was being sarcastic there. Especially because he warned Jack that "She's dangerous....don't let her get to you," or something along those lines. My guess is that Kate and the Marshal worked together at some point and she conned him somehow. There definately was some kind-of past between them.

ok, kate has never had a one night stand

she didn't go to college

was married for a "little while"

has killed a man

knows Sun can speak english

worries enough to go check on Charlie and help him find Claire's diary

can track boone, sawyer or a pig

Crime could be a family tradition, because like everyone else on the island , her parents made her the lying killer she is today. :lol2: