Sorry if there's already a thread for the game references....

Just thought that maybe Charlie's checkerboard-patterned shoes on the plane mite be noteworthy of [something].* I will repost this on an already existing game thread if someone can point me to it.

ETA: modified subject (was "GAME reference started? Charlie's shoes..."). This thread can list all game references.

ETA2:
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Here are the comprehensive list that our friend all_games posts in this thread:

Season 1 Game References http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=636821&postcount=49

Season 2 Game References
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=903399&postcount=102

I assume you mean board games...

-Locke, Walt, and Hurley play Backgammon.
-Locke mentions Operation when handling the dynamite. He mentions to Jack that he 'absolutely' loves playing games.
-Locke plays Mousetrap in the store he works at.
-Locke plays Risk on his break in the box company he works at.

I don't really know if a checkerboard pattern on Charlie's shoes is noteworthy. Plenty of people have shoes like that.

But if we're also including video games...

-The terrorist cell was playing Half-Life in Sayid's last episode.
-Hurley says "Back home, I'm known of something of a warrior myself." which could either be a reference to Online RPGs, or possibly that he plays D&D. Either wouldn't surprise me much.
-The plot of Lost is also very similar to some of the themes in the Silent Hill games. Isolation in a creepy, mysterious place, a light/dark theme, issues of children which strange powers, weird hallucinations, pasts coming back to haunt you, etc.

I assume you mean board games...

I'm not sure I would limit a game list to strictly board games. They have a golf course on the island. Jack, Michael, and some others played golf. Sayid played soccer with Essam. There was a baseball in the timecapsule. For that matter, Shannon does cross-word puzzles, which is a word game. Boone played tennis.

Don't forget the Operation reference. Do you think all of these games have been foreshadowing some greater Game?

were Charlie's shoes black and white?

were Charlie's shoes black and white?


Yes they were.* ETA: he also hid his drug in one of them.

And yup, shootfire, I think it might be important to note/analyze the use of all game references...remember also that Jack asked Locke if he liked to play games and Locke answered "Absolutely".

-Locke mentions Operation when handling the dynamite. He mentions to Jack that he 'absolutely' loves playing games.
-Locke plays Mousetrap in the store he works at.
-Locke plays Risk on his break in the box company he works at.

I don't really know if a checkerboard pattern on Charlie's shoes is noteworthy. Plenty of people have shoes like that.


Hmmm...Operation Mousetrap?

Risk...handling dynamite while mentioning Operation...Operation Mousetrap is dangerous?

I think at the very least Charlie's shoes mite be a reminder* that "it's a game" ? ETA: or to reference the games of Chess and/or Checkers.

I think at the very least Charlie's shoes mite be a reminder that "it's a game" ? ETA: or to reference the games of Chess and/or Checkers.

Checkers have been mentioned. Walt asked Locke if the Backgammon pieces were checkers. Locke said no, it was a better game than checkers. Locke then asked if Walt ever played checkers with his Dad.

Sawyer makes a reference to Operation in Tabula Rasa. He said "You're trying to save a guy who last time I checked had a piece of metal the size of my head sticking out of his bread basket." which I think is one of the pieces in the game.

Shootfire: Shannon is doing a word-search at the airport. She'd break a nail doing crosswords. ;)

In last nights episode Walt was playing a little racing game with a corrigated piece of metal and 3 white rocks. This is during the rain storm, just before Michael joins him under the tent to ask about Locke.

Sawyer makes a reference to Operation in Tabula Rasa.

Yes! *That's right.

Shootfire: Shannon is doing a word-search at the airport. She'd break a nail doing crosswords.

I was referring to a time after the crash. She was working a crossword, and Boone was trying to get her to do something, and she said "what's a 4 letter word for I don't care."

Fore!

Don't forget the golf game.

Altimeter, see? We really don't know what she's capable of. I think I may fall into an eensy weensy category of people who think Shannon may be a closet intellectual. ;)

Shannon (not looking up from a crossword she's doing)

Mmmhmmm.

Boone

Her husband was on the plane.

Shannon

Right.

Boone

Are you even listening to me?

Shannon

What's a four letter word for I don't care.

Boone

I see. Thanks Shoot. I forgot about that. :)

I too fall into that catagory. She's smart and special. She's really grown on me over the season. I can't wait to see what the writers have in store for her in season 2!

Once the definitive games list has been formed, it will be interesting to see who plays, what they play and what this could tell us about them. Board games, sports and puzzles. Every things fair game :D. I'm game are you?

Hey, does Vincent playing hide-and-seek count?

Hey, does Vincent playing hide-and-seek count?

Why not? Hide-and-seek? Fetch? Walt was throwing a tennis ball to him too.

OH, let's don't forget I Never!

Drinking games count! Board games, sports, puzzles and drinking games. And doggie games too. Good catch catch!

Man, you people rock!* How could I forget about hide-and-seek and "I Never"?* :lol2:* Great catch on Vincent, altimeter!
ETA: or how about "I Spy"? :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Walt and Vincent play fetch with an old ball on the beach.

Shannon & Sayid played "slap & tickle" on their moonlight picnic - does it count? :laugh:

LOL - Luv! Made my laugh out loud. I needed that today! Thanks!

I'm reviving this thread - I once again noticed those creepy dolls in WR last night. The dolls are not a game, but a toy. So, it could fit in loosely. And besides, I like this thread!

Bess...I wonder whose dolls they were...does anyone remember seeing any children other than Walt on the plane?* Or was an adult transporting them for some reason? (ETA for incomplete post)

Bess...I wonder whose dolls they were...does anyone remember seeing any children other than Walt on the plane?* Or was an adult transporting them for some reason?* (ETA for incomplete post)

There was more than one of those dolls.* I don't think they belonged to a specific child.* I think they were being shipped.* I saw some crates mixed in with the luggage too.

ETA: I wonder if the doll found under the water represents a child found in a pool or something. I keep thinking back to the conversation between Jack and Christian before the wedding. Jack wasn't sure that he would be a good husband or a good father. It would make losing a pregnant patient more dramatic for Jack, hence his change in attitude when he found out Beth was pregnant. Where Jack and Christian sitting by the pool during that conversation? Hmmm....

They were sitting by the pool.* I just checked the screencaps.* It also makes Joanna's drowning all the harder for Jack if he lost a child in a drowning accident.

ETA: We've seen Jack do CPR 3 times now in the show. Only one time was it not successful. He wasn't able to bring back Beth.

Walt was playing a Game Boy Advance SP at the airport. I don't know what game it was, though.

Small correction (i think): the game Locke plays with GL12 isn't Risk, but a Risk-like game.

Does hunting game count as a game?

also, Sayid tells Nadia it isn't a game, she says, yet you continue to play it, Sayid, pretending to be someone you're not... that's in SOL

Essam's roomates are playing a video game in TGG

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Walt asks Locke if Backgammon is like Checkers.

Kate to Sawyer:
With that piece of paper. The one you keep in your pocket. Seen the expression on your face when you read it and how carefully you fold it up. It means something to you. So you can play games all you want, but I know there's a human being in there somewhere. Give me the medication.


Hurley
Maybe you guys aren't trying hard enough?
Boone
We're hunting, alright?
Hurley
I hope so, because people need food, man - solid food. This isn't a game, man.
Flashback.
[Shot of Boone with his arm around a girl, carrying tennis racket and ball, walking up steps from the tennis court to the pool area of a club.]


Michael
Locke, where the hell is he?
Locke
What?
Michael
I'm not in the mood for your games, man. Where's Walt?


Jack
Alright, we should do this. Let's figure out a game plan. Alright, Sayid, you're the soldier; Locke, you're the hunter. . .


Locke [looking at a red folder Frainey still has]
What about my father?
Frainey
Here's the thing. Your mother sought you out, so she's fair game.



Half Life video game being played in the apartment of Essam. Essam brings Sayid some tea, while two other guys (Yusef and Haddad) play video games.]

Found another reference (the black and white stones found with the "Adam and Eve" bodies in the cave--their original use was a "yes/no" game:
http://www.thefuselage.com/threaded/index.php?topic=20459.msg444406#msg444406

Interesting discussion on poker in the Tiberius thread (tying in to Boone's shirt with aces on it):
http://www.thefuselage.com/threaded/index.php?topic=13713.2775

Thread about game board in Paik's office:
http://www.thefuselage.com/threaded/index.php?topic=15291.msg446503#msg446503

im not so sure there much to discuss about the chess set in Paik's office.....?
goes with the b/w theme, what else is there really to say? only that it's odd the other pieces aren't set up ;)

Locke and GL12 played Axis and Allies, a WWII strategy game. (for the record)

im not so sure there much to discuss about the chess set in Paik's office.....?
goes with the b/w theme, what else is there really to say? only that it's odd the other pieces aren't set up ;)

It looks to me like the translucent pieces are set up (is that rite, Paws?)...then I guess they would correspond to "light"...vs. (the missing) frosted would be "dark".

I wonder if the reason only one side is set up is that Season 1 dealt with the midsection survivors, and we haven't seen the tail survivors yet? Dunno if that makes sense or not. Why would the survivors be playing or fighting against each other?

The references that continue to be made in Tiberieus' riddles in other threads suggest that the island itself
is a big game for the battle of light vs. dark, good vs. evil. Many many references to the "oldest war" and an ongoing struggle already being played on the island between two sides. This may have erupted eons ago as a true
religious-type battle including archangels, the fallen, etc. but has morphed over the ages into the two sides using the tools of the day at their disposal including hand tools, traps, dynamite, the monsters, atomic bombs?? (many clues that the site may be a former French atomic testing site at one time. perhaps that event tipped the balance of the island game toward the dark side?)

There have also been references in Tib's threads to the "gathered being pawns", divided into two camps, and in
the end there will only be two. That would fit in very well with Adam and Eve being discovered dead with light and
dark rocks and the numerous references to previous survivors separate by generations. Pawns brought to the island to participate in previous skirmishes?

I believe that the lostaways are inherently good and that they will work for the light-side of the island struggle. Those that doubt their innocence may be the ones to "bite it" like Boone did.

What I'm really wrestling with is what side Locke is on. His charm, charisma, and personal involvement in
others lives (i.e. Charlie trying to kick, Walt, Jack's search for leadership, etc.) suggest he's of
good character and would be Light.

However, I cannot shake the fact that his circumsance paint him a modern-day Faust; having made a Deal with the devil.
He was an impotent loser tricked by his father to give up an organ, ridiculed by his officemates and toy-store customers,
sharing dreams with a phone-sex attendent. Not necessarily the kind of thing that God might bestow miracles upon, but the devil now,..... Locke is just the kind of mark he's looking for.

Next thing you know, Locke's in Australia, armed to the teeth, with instant MacGuiver/Rambo instincts,
proclaiming it was his destiny to go on Walk-about, beside himself that he couldn't make the trip.
Sounds like someone unwittingly doing a master's bidding in return for a carrot-and-stick payment plan.

When he gets his legs back and see's he's gotten his first payment, he goes to work happily leading the
lostaway pawns into position for the great game ahead. Event the episode at the hatch, "I've done
everything you've asked, why are are you doing this"? (paraphrased) suggests someone disappointed in
not getting their end of the deal. I think that Locke may be an unwitting minion of the dark side, who simply
hasn't yet realized he's playing for the wrong team.

Am I missing any parallels in religious history where someone is promised benefit for doing the bidding
of the "good" side??

Sorry to mix topics.... It is definitely all a game/struggle/conflict.

-MadMatt

Locke straddles the fence ;D

Am I missing any parallels in religious history where someone is promised benefit for doing the bidding
of the "good" side??


Ummm...Abraham?* King David? I'm not sure what you mean by benefit. Abraham was promised a son and a nation. David was promised the same.

There's a dartboard in the Swan hatch.

This show reminds me of my three favorite video games-
1. Resident Evil-an evil corporation discovers T-virus, which is supposed to be used in cosmetics to prevent aging but it gets loose in town and everyones flesh turns into ZOMBIES! Undead! Michelle Rodriguez (ANA LUCIA) starred in the Resident Evil movie, Resident evil was the first game in a genre known as "SURVIVAL HORROR!" and I think thats whats going on here, the Lostaways survice the horror of the initial crash with more horror and heroism to follow....
2. Metal Gear Solid- Paramilitary unit was inventing stealth mecha robots (LostZilla as Metal Gear Rex?) to launch a nuclear missile and instigate world war 3. A pair of twins (did you notice the twins on the boatbillies raft and the producers pointing out to uis how critical this is) were genetically engineered one is the protaginist, his evil twin the antagonist (evil twin wants to help evil paramilitary unit start WW3 in stealth to create a new world order!)
3. Tomb Raider-no plot connections, but KAte looks like Lara Croft and Evangine Lily could easily star in the next movie adaptation.

I think the classic checker shoes are an allusion to VANS-made in VAN NUYS, CA near LAX!
and the stones found on Adam and eve remind me of the classic board game "othello" where pieces are black on one side, white on the other, you flip them,

noone mentioned CONNECT FOUR! remember Lenny playing this in the asylum?


Walt was playing a Game Boy Advance SP at the airport. I don't know what game it was, though.

The audio from the game was from the Atari 2600 version of PAc-Man, but the video from the game featured soldiers fighting on a white field of snow, I think this might be a Tom Clancy Splinter Cell adaptation? (just a guess, Nintendo Game Boy does not have many war games nor mature rated games)

There's a ping pong table in the Swan hatch...one half folded up, presumably so Desmond could play solo.

Since we're logging toys here too...

In Abandoned:
Child's tea set
Teddy bear
backgammon again (Locke rolled double 6's)

someone once mentioned the professions on the island, i think they wrote.
"There is a doctor, fisherman, hunter and soldier"
It reminded me of an old rhyme, i think it was a skipping rhyme.
Since children have some importance on the island i wondered if nursery rhymes could be a theme but thats as far as i got lol.

the rhyme is -
Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Sailor, Rich man, Poor man, Beggar Man, Thief. Another way goes:
Rich man, poor man, Beggar man, thief. Doctor, lawyer, Indian chief! Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting-out_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting-out_game)"
where the relevance is i don't know but games, toys and rhymes are all kids favs

Was the dvd deleted scene with Walt and Locke "finding the tell" included in season 1? it was a reference to poker and white lies told with "poker faces". POKER!

And ya know there is a silly movie out now called zathura where kids game comes to life could that be happening on Lost (polar bear came alive because walts video game had Jumanji like powers???)

where the relevance is i don't know but games, toys and rhymes are all kids favsTrue and it calls to mind the European trailer where the voice over said "one of us is a murderer...." etc.

Also there's a boomerang (tied to a stick) carried by Eko and various other Tailies. It has been mentioned in other threads and could symbolize people/things coming back, and the phrase "it'll come back around" by the shrimp man and the whispers.

Billiard game in the flashback from Confidence Man.

15 balls get racked up There are 16 balls altogether, if you include the cue ball. Dem' numbers are everywhere!!!

On the kitchen table in the Hatch is a board game that is called Go.

Thanks mr_find and WIF! And everyone I haven't thanked yet. I think the game(s) is important but I don't know how yet.

Season 1 Game References

S1E1
Model Plane- Jack makes a model plane from leaves when speaking with Kate
Tennis Shoe
Checkers/Chess- Charlie’s vans resemble a game board
S1E2
Backgammon
Comic Book
Checkers
Dice
S1E3
Puppet Show- Sawyer refers to Sayid’s demo of the plane crash
Tabula Rasa- Tabula is an ancient game from which Backgammon is thought to be derived
Whistle
Operation-Sawyer says -"You're trying to save a guy who last time I checked had a piece of metal the size of my head sticking out of his bread basket."
S1E4
Axis and Allies War Game- Locke and GL12 in office
Crossword Puzzle
Tennis
Model Plane- on top of cabinet in Walkabout office
S1E5
Dolls
Tennis
S1E6
GO -the black and white stones are pieces used in the Chinese game GO
S1E7
Stuffed Teddy Bear and other toys in sandbox
S1E8
Con Game
Pool- 8 ball on the table
Make Believe- Charlie and Claire play with peanut butter
S1E9
Golf
S1E10
Toy Plane Mobile over crib
GO - The black and white stones that appear in Locke’s eyes during Claire’s dream
Word Jumble
Toy Plane on Claire’s night table
S1E11
Backgammon
Fantasy Island- Sawyer calls Walt “Tattoo”
Hatch-Could be a reference to Richard Hatch the first winner of survivor
S1E12
Toy Plane
S1E13
Tennis- Boone plays tennis; Walt plays fetch with Vincent
S1E14
Comic Book and Golf
Poker – Boone's shirt with a “4 of a Kind” of Aces
Model Ship in Lawyers Office
Whistle
Football- see newspaper box, when Michael is hit by car, there's a football contest shown on lower part of box
S1E15
Golf Course
S1E16
I Never
S1E17
Game theme- the entire episode relates to game themes
Crystal Chess Set was on a coffee table in Mr. Paik’s office
Golf
Backgammon
S1E18
Lottery- Hurley
Connect Four
Sims – Lenny’s last name is Sims
Dominos, Jig Saw puzzles, Blocks, Ball, Lego, Chess Set, stuffed animals and many more games and toys are in the psych ward
Counting Beans Contest
Hockey- Visible on Hurley’s TV
Tekken- Hugo Reyes is on the production staff for Tekken and characters in the game include Alex, Polar Bear, Jin, Jack, and Marshall Law
Target Practice- Charlie tells Hurley they were target practice for Danielle
Football- Hurley wears a football jersey
Baseball- Diego Reyes wears a baseball jersey
Quest- Charlie says “What inspired this little quest”
S1E19
Mouse Trap
Foosball table
Toy Store
Football – Locke’s mother asks where they are
S1E20
Football - Sarah wearing a football jersey
Baseball
Sugarplum fairies- Charlie counts Claire’s contractions in Sugarplum fairies: A reference to the game hide & seek. There is also a Sugarplum fairy in the game Candyland
S1E21
Half Life- terrorists playing Half Life video game
Sayid and Essam play soccer
S1E22
Baseball- in backseat of Tom’s car
Baseball with name “John Locke” on it; John Locke Mercer and Aaron Boone were baseball players, Yankees have the same numbers retired (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42)
Baseball cap in Time Capsule
Toy plane seen again
Minnie Mouse Doll on backseat of Tom’s car
Teddy Bear Magnets on refrigerator
Gameboy- Desk clerk playing with a Gameboy
Survivor- Sawyer says “You gonna vote me off?”
S1E23
Toy Plane
Crazy 8’s
Word Seek Puzzle
Choosing Sticks
S1E24
Gameboy
Operation
Soccer team


Hanso Website
Fear Factor -Joop van den Ende, a self made billionaire, owes his fortune to television production....is credited with pioneering the format that is now the basis of reality shows like Fear Factor
Games- Joop spent his birthday playing games, see the Press Release
http://www.thehansofoundation.org/lep.html
Mega Lotto Jackpot Site
Contest to win Washer/Dryer

See Season 2 Game References on page 11 http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=15339&page=11

Yay! My thread revived!!!:biggrin:

Where did you come from? LOL. Awesome list...THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

I will refer your post to the Long Lost List peeps...

Tabby Rasa

This is my first post here. I have visited before to read through comments but post mainly on abc.com

I have an entire game theory posted there that is very long and detailed that you may want to visit
http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/thread?threadID=651593#8017579

I update it after every episode. By the way, thanks I missed Charlie's shoes as a game reference and will add that in on my thread later tonight or tomorrow when I update it.

all_games

very cool:cool: yeah that's how this thread got started...I had read something where the author said life is a game, and to start lookin around in your life for the checkerboard pattern...and how that's a reminder that life is a game... and then next thing I know, I'm watching LOST and Charlie had those Vans on....

I'll check out your theory when I get a chance...thanks for the link. You may want to check out our Long Lost List...look at waltisfuture's profile and the link is in her signature.

Two things in reponse to this thread:

1. When sawyer talked about the piece of metal in the Marshall's breadbasket, that wasn't a reference to Operation. The different pieces in Operation were created to mirror commonly used phrase's to describe body parts or aches and pains. Brain freeze, water on the knee, funny bone, butterflies in the stomach, charley horse.... You're not telling me everytime a high school freshman gets nervous about asking a girl out and says , "I have butterflies in my stomach." he is reference Operation. That's ridiculous.

2. Hurley
Maybe you guys aren't trying hard enough?
Boone
We're hunting, alright?
Hurley
I hope so, because people need food, man - solid food. This isn't a game, man.


Isn't that the same episode in which Hurley says Jin needs to pee on him because he saw it on TV once? I know some people thought that was a Friends reference, but I'm sure, especially coupled with the game comment, it was a Survivor reference considering all these people are trapped on an island trying to survive, it's a logical reference to make.

I suggest you review the body parts in the game Operation. There is definitely a part called the bread basket- and it is shaped like a piece of bread.

I suggest you review the body parts in the game Operation. There is definitely a part called the bread basket- and it is shaped like a piece of bread.

Absolutely 100% correct. I've played this game many times. Have you seen the new Homer Simpson version? I wonder what the parts will be? Donuts, beer etc. :biggrin:

I copied your excellent list for the LLL and would like to know if you would be okay with us using it? Giving you credit for the info of course.

Utopian Prototype Hatch Member

Saw your post about your favorite games. I have a few questions about two of them

Is it true that in the Resident Evil video game that parts of a puzzle are found in a book?

Also, could you be a little more specific about how the Metal Gear Solid video game remindsyou of the twins on the boat? Is it just because they are twins or because you think that both sets of twins are evil?

Thanks,
all_games

walt_is_future

I have not seen your Long Lost List yet and would love the link to it. Please feel free to add my list along with my name.conected to it.

all_games

Thanks again for your insights and information, all_games...very interesting and helpful!!!

I updated the list to include game references for "What Kate Did"

I updated the list to include game references for "What Kate Did"
Thanks again, all_games!!!

Found a reference in The Greater Good transcript:
[Half Life video game being played in the apartment of Essam. Essam brings Sayid some tea, while two other guys (Yusef and Haddad) play video games.]

That's right, Tabby! Interesting storyline (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life):

The game is set in a remote area of New Mexico at the Black Mesa Research Facility, a fictional complex that bears many similarities to both the Los Alamos National Laboratory and Area 51. The game's protagonist is the theoretical physicist Gordon Freeman, a survivor (and catalyst) of an experiment that goes horribly awry when an unexpected resonance cascade rips dimensional seams that allow aliens from another world - known as Xen - to invade Earth.

As Freeman tries to escape the ruined facility whilst fighting off aliens, he soon discovers he is caught between two sides: the hostile aliens, and the Hazardous Environment Combat Unit, a military force dispatched to cover up the incident — including eliminating Freeman and the rest of the scientists. Throughout the game, a mysterious figure known as the G-Man regularly appears to monitor (and direct) Freeman's progress. Ultimately, Freeman uses the co-operation of surviving scientists and security officers to work his way to the mysterious "Lambda Complex" of Black Mesa, where a team of survivors teleport him to the alien world Xen, where he must kill the creature keeping Xen's side of the dimensional rift open.

I suggest you review the body parts in the game Operation. There is definitely a part called the bread basket- and it is shaped like a piece of bread.
Found another reference to this game in Season 1, "Exodus 2":
Locke: I always got nailed on the funny bone.

Todell: Yes, thanks for posting that...interesting. You know, I often wonder if all the various references are just to throw us off the track.

Having trouble subscribing to this thread, I'll do it the old fashioned way.

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=736&pos=241 Just noticed, there looks to be a game on the table. There is a die 32 upsidedown and maybe one with 6 showing.

Cin's got that as being as possibly the "GO" game

It does look like a Go Game (or Baduk in Korean). It's a game that requires strategy and balance. It's very popular in Asia.

Go is typically classified as an abstract board game. However, a resemblance between the game of Go and war is often suggested. The Chinese classic The Art of War, for instance, has often been applied to Go strategy as well. On the other hand, general strategies of Go are well described by proverbs and are applied in other contexts such as management.

The two players, black and white, battle to maximize the territory they control, seeking to surround large areas of the board with their stones, to capture any opposing stones that invade these areas, and to protect their own stones from capture. The strategy involved can become very subtle and sophisticated.

Real wars end when the participants sign treaties. Likewise, in Go, the players have to agree that the game has ended. Only then is the outcome finally determined.

Also, it would tie in with the Ba Gua symbol shown on Desmonds wall as far as an asian theme.

Another interesting concept is the Korean game of Baduk, also called Go, two players alternate in placing black and white stones on a large (19x19 line) ruled board, with the aim of surrounding territory. Stones are never moved, and only removed if they are completely surrounded. The game rewards patience and balance over aggression and greed; the balance of influence and territory may shift many times in the course of a game, and a strong player must be prepared to be flexible but resolute.

Does it make a difference that it's black and red? We were examining the hole in the wall or window, and I noticed the die there.

Not sure. That one I didn't investigate. I can certainly bring that up though for you. I'll copy your post from here over there.

we've also got this picture too http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/cinamin8/Long%20Lost%20List%20Pics/GoGame.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Go_board.jpg is wikipedia's picture if a GO board

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Go_board.jpg is wikipedia's picture if a GO board
OK there maybe 2 games on the table. There is a wooden box or something but by the die there are black and red pieces and another die with ::: in it. Different Game?

I posted your "concern" over there and it'll be something we can take a good look at. I'm trying to keep up with stuff here and there and it's a pain.

As for the checkers, I don't think that's been brought up.

Going to lost-media and using the larger version you can see clearly the red and black but there is that die that's sitting there. Wonder if his pcs are just those colors and not white and black?

Don't worry about it, you've got more stuff to do right now, I'm downloading the HD caps to see if there are any better shots, I'll be back.

Cool. That would be great!

Thanks to ariane179254 @ Live Journal for the cap.

http://photobucket.com/albums/b389/SamG1/?action=view&current=Lost_2x02_Adrift0251-Ar.jpg

It's a little bigger and you can see 2 dice double 6's

Belated thanks to Sam G and car88win!!!

from S2/Fire + Water:

Liam's Christmas present, Voltron transformer toy

The dolls on the butcher block and meat case, sadly...dismembered

The playpen in the Driveshaft video being filmed
http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=902&pos=110

Figurative: the band "playing the game" to further their careers

Sawyer and Hurley playing "21" with Dharma Swan playing cards
Their hands: Sawyer: 6-Diamonds, one face down; Hurley: 2-Hearts, K-Clubs

I just updated my list of games above to include games from The 23rd Psalm, The Hunting Party and Fire + Water.

all_games

I just updated my list of games above to include games from The 23rd Psalm, The Hunting Party and Fire + Water.

all_games
Thanks (as always), all_games!:kiss:

I always get so excited to see these old threads come to the surface again. We haven't had much game playing on 'ole Craphole Island lately.

I always get so excited to see these old threads come to the surface again. We haven't had much game playing on 'ole Craphole Island lately.
Me too!! I kinda worry about the old ones we haven't thought to bring back...like they're going to be LOST or something. I saw your "A Primary Color" come back and that was great. Oh hey, I watched part of an Alias epi tonight (not sure which one as I'm new to that show), and they were using primary colors of items in the scene, with the rest of the scene being dimly lit. So maybe that's a JJ thing.

I don't recall any games in The Long Con or Maternity Leave but I am going to re-watch them (of course).

I was watching "Alias" last night too. I have to say the 1st and 2nd season were the best. I have all of the seasons up to 4 on DVD. I haven't watched season 4. I don't know what makes a shows fall appart. I don't know how "Alias" was conceived but it seems we are about to find out what the ending is going to be.

I was talking to a friend about shows that just go on and on. Some of them can, they aren't held together by a through line, a continuing story that has an ending planned from the beginning. There aren't very many of them on TV right now. All of them are pretty much contained into an hour, with life overlapping through the episodes. Buffy was the last show that I can think of that had a "Grande Design" as to how the show was going to end. Even Buffy, may have spent a little too much time getting to the ending.

Like the Harry Potter books, JK Rowling always knew what the end of the story was going to be, there is no adding on. It seems to me, from the beginning of LOST, when you listen to JJ and Damon, they know what the ending is going to be. To me that's good.


DOH! the costumes, certainly fall into the game catagory for me. The make-up kit and fake beard. Let's play spy. (Which seems to be another thing JJ likes. Look at all the changes they did to Sydney in "Alias".)

I'm afraid I'm way behind on Harry Potter (so little time...) and never have watched Buffy.

DOH! the costumes, certainly fall into the game catagory for me. The make-up kit and fake beard. Let's play spy. (Which seems to be another thing JJ likes. Look at all the changes they did to Sydney in "Alias".)
Double DOH!:D Yeah, that is one thing I've noticed in the few Alias epi's I've seen...all the wigs and costumes.

Someone made the LOST connection to the costumes and a common Tiberius' thread phrase..."this small opera".:) So duly noted, costumes in S1/Exodus II and S2/The Hunting Party and Maternity Leave. Not just "let's play spy", but "let's play dress-up".:D

I haven't seen these mentiones, Sorry if I missed it.

I think Locke was playing solitaire with the cards in Clarie's dream in season 1.

The Extra Losties have been seen tossing a football in the background during scenes.

Sawyer and Christian Shepherd discuss Baseball.

The boomerangs strapped to sticks look like Hockey sticks (and there have been a few references to Canada maybe the Aussies and Canadians are working together)

I haven't seen these mentiones, Sorry if I missed it.

I think Locke was playing solitaire with the cards in Clarie's dream in season 1.

The Extra Losties have been seen tossing a football in the background during scenes.

Sawyer and Christian Shepherd discuss Baseball.

The boomerangs strapped to sticks look like Hockey sticks (and there have been a few references to Canada maybe the Aussies and Canadians are working together) The cards that Locke had were Tarot cards.

Just updated my list on page 5 of this thread.

all_games

Nice to see you again, all_games...thanks for your additions!

S2/Lockdown:

the poker game on the beach (Hurley, Sawyer, Kate, Jack)

Note: will update this post with more details

Texas Hold 'em

Jack had 3 kings

Texas Hold 'em

Jack had 3 kings
Thanks, Sam!

Sawyer had 2 Q's.

Jack also called out the hands of a few others and gave advice on how to play. Will update.

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I just put in the game references for The Whole Truth and Lockdown

You may also want to look at my games thread over at the abc site. There are many more "games" references than just those listed above.
http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/thread?threadID=795904&forumStart=390

all_games

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I just put in the game references for The Whole Truth and Lockdown

You may also want to look at my games thread over at the abc site. There are many more "games" references than just those listed above.
http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/thread?threadID=795904&forumStart=390

OK, thanks for the info and update, all_games! :thumbsup: This thread wouldn't be the same without your thoroughness.:) That's pretty interesting about the TV show "The Mole", and how pedalling and the black light gave clues on how to escape. Hmmmm...maybe our map does too.
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S2/Lockdown:

the poker game on the beach (Hurley, Sawyer, Kate, Jack)

Note: will update this post with more details
Texas Hold 'em

Jack had 3 kings
Thanks, Sam!

Sawyer had 2 Q's.

Jack also called out the hands of a few others and gave advice on how to play. Will update.
It looked like Jack had 2 K's. He won the whole pile of fruit with that hand. They played another hand for the medicine that Sawyer stole from the hatch..."all of it", said Jack. He won it with a pair of 9's, over Sawyer's pair of 5's.

Kings
Wired (Back-to-Back):
(1) A pair, trips, or four-of-a-kind dealt consecutively or "back-to-back" in a hand. In a Stud hand, it usually starts with the first card. (2) A pair as a starting hand in Texas Hold'em. For example, wired kings (KK).

K hearts
5 diamonds
7 clubs
2 spades
Q spades

Sawyer thought he had 3 queens, Jack had 3 kings, he said wired meaning he got them delt to him back to back.

The first hand
3 clubs
6 diamonds
4 clubs
8 clubs
J hearts

Hurley was going for a baby straight, Sawyer had a Flush.

Thanks for the poker info, Sam G! Not gonna go there about whether Jack is special or actually saw all their hands. ;)

S2/Dave episode:

In the hospital:
Basketball, Mancala/Mankala board (no marbles), Connect 4

Island:
Basketball (or football?) with a coconut (Dave to Hurley)

I believe it's Mankala, not Mandala :cool:

I believe it's Mankala, not Mandala :cool:
Thanks, LL...spiritual slip (http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/online/mandala/) there. ;)

Thanks, LL...spiritual slip (http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/online/mandala/) there. ;)

lol. I hope to have a spiritual slip one day. :rolleyes:

Darn, I want to make a slip joke too :glare:

I posted this in the Dave board but I thought I should put it here also:

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&albu m=1033&pos=647 (http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=1033&pos=647)

The game on the table is known by several other names depending on the place but I see it most often sold as "Mancala"

I call it the bead game because I lost all the original glass beads/flat marbles, that it came with and used beads in thier place.

Anyway it's a REALLY fun and addictive game, and as a parallel is kind of similar to Backgammon.

I also notice she doesn't have any pieces in the board either.

http://www.tradgames.org.uk/games/Mancala.htm
http://www.elf.org/mankala/Mankala.html
http://www.lilgames.com/mancala_snails.shtml
http://www.jgames.com/mancala/

This link was provided by timedancer:
http://www.miniclip.com/mancalabugs.htm

The game on the table is known by several other names depending on the place but I see it most often sold as "Mancala"

I call it the bead game because I lost all the original glass beads/flat marbles, that it came with and used beads in thier place.

Anyway it's a REALLY fun and addictive game, and as a parallel is kind of similar to Backgammon.

I also notice she doesn't have any pieces in the board either.
Thanks, KDTA! I saw the posts about Mancala...had never heard of it.

That the Mancala board has no beads reminds me of Mr. Paik's chessboard (http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=289&pos=20) mentioned earlier in this thread...it has only one side of chessmen set up.

Thanks, KDTA! I saw the posts about Mancala...had never heard of it.

I love this game, you can pretty much play it with anything around, like bowls or cups, or just designate the spots for the beads/marbles, but you can pretty much use anything there as well, rocks, cherrios, seeds, pennies, etc.

A couple of the links above have free online versions you can play.

But there is something about the type of board seen in the pic, and using those flat marbles that come with it. You get into a rythmn, of scooping and "plunking" the beads in their spots, my friends and I got pretty addicted to it. We started to add new marbles and there were of course the "special" ones that we either wanted or sort of made, the "old maid" that gave or took points from the final score.


That the Mancala board has no beads reminds me of Mr. Paik's chessboard (http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=289&pos=20) mentioned earlier in this thread...it has only one side of chessmen set up.


Ha! That reminds me, someone in the Dave board made mention that this may be a reference to the term "Lost their Marbles" :biggrin:

Season 2 Games
S2E1
Ping Pong
Bike/Racing
Pente or Backgammon on coffee table; Pente is a variation of the game GO; Pente is name of Charlie's album listed on the Driveshaft website
Pong-Sound of Computer beeping
Sports Stadium
S2E2
Riddle
Stuffed Polar Bear
Race Round the World
Dart Board
Stuffed Rabbit
Doubling Die on table
Checkerboard floor
Boomerang-on Libby’s stick
S2E3
Many games shown in hatch
Jack says "...it's just a mind game?"
Sawyer says “... Jin plays dead, ...”
S2E4
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - The game also features fast-food restaurants where the characters can go to "re-fuel". There's a restaurant called the "Cluckin' Bell"."Have a cluckity-cluck-cluck day" is what employees say to CJ
S2E5
Teddy Bear with Sayid’s tie (DVD extra)
Bingo
Olympics
S2E6
Teddy Bear
Doll House
Stuffed Lamb
Tea Set
Backgammon
Stuffed Rabbit
Raggedy Ann Doll
Stuffed animals on bed
S2E7
Teddy Bear
Boomerang
Skiing/Race
S2E8
Golf
Crossword Puzzle
Ping Pong
Dart Board
Boomerang
Pool
Skiing-Jason’s t-shirt
S2E9
Ping Pong
Dart Board
Myst-game involves finding pieces of a video
Resident Evil Video Game- Parts of a puzzle are found in a book
S2E10
Soccer
Bicycle
Ping Pong
Dart Board
S2E11
Hunting
Bridge
Dart board and name of band on album played by Charlie & Hurley is Pousette Dart
S2E12
Bunny Slippers
Dolls
Voltron
Santa Doll on shelf
Polar Bears
Rattles
Cards
Stuffed animals by bed
Love Connection
S2E13
Con Game
Ping Pong
Dart Board
Cowboys & Indians
Donkey Kong
Bicycle-miniature bike in living room
Playing House-Gordy “... while you and Cassidy played house”
Basketball -Sawyer says “No harm, no foul”
Wrestling-Sawyer says "Hot Oil Death Match”
S2E14
Ping Pong
Dart Board
Ballooning
Archery
Bicycle-in DIA film
S2E15
Stuffed toys
Oceanic Plane Mobile
Dart Board
Toy Train on Dresser
Toy Car on bookshelf
Airplane Lamp
Cabbage Patch Doll on shelf
Oversized Beads
Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Pillows
Picture of Toy Boat
Bull Fighting/Running with the Bulls
S2E16
Dart Board
Ping Pong
Ballooning
S2E17
Dart Board
Con Game
Poker
Sandbox
Ballooning
Bicycling
The Mole TV show-in the final episode of “The Mole” they were locked in rooms, and triggered a black light by pedaling on a bike, which revealed clues to get out of their room
S2E18
Basketball
Football-Dave throws coconut,says “15, 16, 23, 42, hike”
Connect 4
Nascar Racing
Lotto
Bingo
Mancala board
S2E19
Doll
Dartboard
Shadow Puppets
Shooting Contest
Lottery-on Rose's paper
S2E20
Dart Board
Ping Pong
Hide & Seek–Sawyer yells “Come out, come out wherever you are”
Make Believe-Christian calls himself "Tom" and Ana Lucia "Sarah"
S2E21
Dart Board
Ping Pong
Bicycle
Maze
Target-Eko says "?" was used as a target
Con Game-Malkin admits he's a fraud
S2E22
Dart Board
Ping Pong
Bolo
Fetch
Clue/Klugh
S2E23/S2E24
Snow Globe
Dart Board
Ping Pong
Bicycle
Puppets
Race Round the world
Doll
Riddle
Chess

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Just put up the Game References for Dave (S2E18)

My original listing on Page 5 of this thread would not take any more additions to it as it was getting too long.

So I have left the Season 1 games on page 5 and moved all Season 2 games here.

all_games

Just put up the Game References for Dave (S2E18)

My original listing on Page 5 of this thread would not take any more additions to it as it was getting too long.

So I have left the Season 1 games on page 5 and moved all Season 2 games here.

Perfect, all_games...thanks!!! That keeps them together by season...and now I have confirmation that it was football with the coconut.:redface:

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Check this out

Cerebrus Protocol- Video Game- see http://www.cerebrusprotocol.com/content/home/ (http://www.cerebrusprotocol.com/content/home/) and http://www.cerebrusprotocol.com/content/cast/

Interesting huh?

Cerebrus Protocol- Video Game- see http://www.cerebrusprotocol.com/content/home/ (http://www.cerebrusprotocol.com/content/home/) and http://www.cerebrusprotocol.com/content/cast/

Interesting huh?
Yes, although the blast door map shows "Cerberus", and not "Cerebrus". One could, however, speculate that whoever drew the map misspelled it, since TPTB did hint that all of the map may not be correct (paraphrasing).:) It seems that they have all the bases covered.:D

I believe that TPTB said that this season, we would know who drew the map, so maybe we will also be shown what the entries on the map mean. Someday.:D
Thanks for posting more food for thought!:cool:

Just added SOS (S2E19) game references.
all_games

dude, charlie is a rockstar right? yeah...and his shoes are vans, if you take notice of rock videos such as i do, the shoes are a make called Vans...you prob already know this but maybe there is nothing to do with a game but it's a costume to add to him been a rocker...just saying

I noticed that two people posted complete list of the games reference...

http://www.losthatch.com/

has the list along with photos (BUT BEWARE THAT THERE IS A SPOLIERS SECTION)

also Charlie's shoes are Vans made popular by the movie Fast Times at Ridgemont High in the 80s where the character who wears them is always stoned...might have been a joke reference by hiding the drugs in the shoes

Just added SOS (S2E19) game references.
all_games
Thanks yet again, all_games! :hug:

I noticed that two people posted complete list of the games reference...

http://www.losthatch.com/

has the list along with photos (BUT BEWARE THAT THERE IS A SPOLIERS SECTION)
Wow, rabia...thanks! I go there for transcripts and never noticed the Games link or the many others!

also Charlie's shoes are Vans made popular by the movie Fast Times at Ridgemont High in the 80s where the character who wears them is always stoned...might have been a joke reference by hiding the drugs in the shoes
dude, charlie is a rockstar right? yeah...and his shoes are vans, if you take notice of rock videos such as i do, the shoes are a make called Vans...you prob already know this but maybe there is nothing to do with a game but it's a costume to add to him been a rocker...just saying
Yes, someone posted early on that they are Vans...but I didn't know the references...good points, both of you!

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As far as losthatch.com is concerned, I have been working with them since last October on game references.

They actually added the section on toys and games as a result of our early communications. I was the one who first brought all of the game and toy references to their attention.

Not only did they add the section but if you go to there "About" page you will see that they list a thank you to Doreen W for all the game and toy references.

I am both Doreen W and all_games.

I email them my observations after every episode. My list is usually longer as I always include any sightings of repeated games like the Dart board and Ping Pong table in the hatch which can be seen in many, many episodes.

And I also include some of the more obscure game references. If you look over my list you'll see references to games like MYST, Grand Left Auto, etc. that losthatch.com leaves out. Hey, it's their site.

The guys at losthatch.com are really nice guys and have been a pleasure to work with. We plan on continuing to work together.

all_games

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As far as losthatch.com is concerned, I have been working with them since last October on game references.

They actually added the section on toys and games as a result of our early communications. I was the one who first brought all of the game and toy references to their attention.

Not only did they add the section but if you go to there "About" page you will see that they list a thank you to Doreen W for all the game and toy references.

I am both Doreen W and all_games.
Oh, that's neat to know that they're hosting your work! And your thoroughness is impressive. Are you including comic references (I didn't check first)...like The Watchmen allusions, etc.?

dude, charlie is a rockstar right? yeah...and his shoes are vans, if you take notice of rock videos such as i do, the shoes are a make called Vans...you prob already know this but maybe there is nothing to do with a game but it's a costume to add to him been a rocker...just saying

I noticed that two people posted complete list of the games reference...

http://www.losthatch.com/

has the list along with photos (BUT BEWARE THAT THERE IS A SPOLIERS SECTION)

also Charlie's shoes are Vans made popular by the movie Fast Times at Ridgemont High in the 80s where the character who wears them is always stoned...might have been a joke reference by hiding the drugs in the shoes

They could also be a reference to Skateboarding and Surfing.

Oh, that's neat to know that they're hosting your work! And your thoroughness is impressive. Are you including comic references (I didn't check first)...like The Watchmen allusions, etc.?

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Thanks for the complement. The only comic that is referenced in my list is Walt's (Hurley's) comic book. I don't include references about other comics for one very good reason, I don't know a thing about comics. Actually, I'm probaby a little older than you think I am and it's been many, many years since I was a comic book fan.

Why don't you start a list of comic references on this thread?

all_games

dont know where to work this on the board but i think you will all like this article...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/artsentertainment/2002730079_lostgame10.html

Thanks, but I had already seen that article. I am firmly convinced that LOST is actually a game.

The thread I had over at the abc Lost site was deleted by mods now that they have a limit on post length.

I am working opn my own webiste to post my entire theory there. will let you know when it's up.

all_games

Tabby

Game references for Two For The Road have been added

Game references have been added for 2.21 "?"

Game references have been added for 2.21 "?"
Thanks yet again, all_games!!!

Here are the links to all_games' lists in this thread:

Season 1 Game References http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=636821&postcount=49

Season 2 Game References
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=903399&postcount=102

Tabby

I just added Con Game to S2E21 "?" since Richard Malkin admited he was a fraud.

all_games

Thanks yet again, all_games!!!

Here are the links to all_games' lists in this thread:

Season 1 Game References http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=636821&postcount=49

Season 2 Game References
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=903399&postcount=102

Game references for S2E22 Three minutes have been added.

Note that my entire game references thread on abc.com forum was deleted by mods as they now have limits on post sizes. I am working on posting the entire theory on my own website. Will let you know when it is up and running.

all_games

Game references for S2E22 Three minutes have been added.

Note that my entire game references thread on abc.com forum was deleted by mods as they now have limits on post sizes. I am working on posting the entire theory on my own website. Will let you know when it is up and running.

Thanks a bunch, all_games!!!:)

Geesh, sorry to hear about the abc forum. I hope you didn't lose anything, or at least, that you had posted it all here too. Keep us posted please...would love to check out your web site.:)

Thanks a bunch, all_games!!!:)

Geesh, sorry to hear about the abc forum. I hope you didn't lose anything, or at least, that you had posted it all here too. Keep us posted please...would love to check out your web site.:)

Not to worry, I didn't lose a thing. I have always maintained WORD and EXCEL documents as my master files. I make all my episode updates on them first, and then I just copy and post the updates (and also send my updates to losthatch.com).

I am actually amazed that I was able to have the whole WORD document on my game theory on abc.com for such a long time since it's about 50 pages long. Yes, it's a very complete theory.

So, I have a big LOST project ahead of me for the summer as I'll be constructing and maintaining my website. I am excited as I have a great domain name registered. And I have started on the artwork and formatting.

By the way the guys at losthatch.com have been a huge help with technical advice on getting my website up and running.

Will keep you updated. I assume you'll be here all summer. If not, then why don't you PM me here with an email address I can use during the summer to contact you.

all_games

S2E23&S2E24 "Live Together Die Alone" game references have been added

all_games

Tabby,

You may want to visit my website www.LOSTisaGame.com (http://www.LOSTisaGame.com)

Enjoy!
all_games

Tabby,

You may want to visit my website www.LOSTisaGame.com (http://www.LOSTisaGame.com)

Enjoy!
all_games
I will definitely check it out and let you know! Thanks much for the info. :)

I am actually amazed that I was able to have the whole WORD document on my game theory on abc.com for such a long time since it's about 50 pages long. Yes, it's a very complete theory.
How long do you think is the corresponding material the makers of Lost generated for you to base this on?

How long do you think is the corresponding material the makers of Lost generated for you to base this on?

I guess you haven't visited my website at www.LOSTisaGame.com (http://www.LOSTisaGame.com) I have reoganized all of my previous posts there. You might want to visit the Theory, Playing and Winning pages.

As for your question about what the "makers of LOST generated" I assume you are referring to both the creators and writers.

Beyond their initial concept (which could be explained in about four or five paragraphs), all they needed to do was write the scripts.

Take a look at the website, it's very straight forward.

all_games

Tabby

I have updated my games list on my website. I added a few more that I found. And I have run out of posting room on the Season 1 and Season 2 lists on this thread.

all_games

Tabby

I have updated my games list on my website. I added a few more that I found. And I have run out of posting room on the Season 1 and Season 2 lists on this thread.

all_games
Thanks, all_games! Go ahead and post your additions in new posts. If you have the time, you could add links in the original Season 1 and Season 2 posts to the addendum posts. Season 3 can have its own bright new shiny post to fill up (someday).

Tabby

Exciting news for me today-- lostlinks.net has listed my website as a "Link of the Day"

I absolutely plan to do a Season 3 list here. I'm looking forward to it.

all_games

Tabby

Exciting news for me today-- lostlinks.net has listed my website as a "Link of the Day"

I absolutely plan to do a Season 3 list here. I'm looking forward to it.

all_games
Congradulations all_games !

I found something I thought may be interesting to you when I was doing research for the Latin phase for, “Do not despair: one of the thieves was saved. Do not presume: one of the thieves was damned.” by Augustine. I never did find it, but long story short, I found a source that brought my attention to the fact that Samuel Beckett referenced it for his play, Waiting for Godot... as I read it, I continued on to the play Endgame, a one-act play he wrote. Those who play chess will recognize the term endgame/game ending. I am not a chess player and know very little about the game, but did recognize that. As I was reading I learned that an artist that I am fond of, Marcel Duchamp (http://www.chessmate.com/duchamp.html), had written a book on chess: Opposition and Sister Squares are Reconciled (http://www.chessarch.com/market/savage_01.shtml) (1932). With more googling I came upon the term "Le trebuchet" (http://www.samuel-beckett.net/hugill.html) (The trap) in reference to endgames and thought I would bring it over here...I didn't find anything referencing trebuchet in any game theories...unless I missed something, and if so, sorry for the dupe !

Remember when Locke said to Boone, "Trebuchet ends with a ' T ' ?" Could this have been a clue for the trap/endgame chess reference ?

I found something I thought may be interesting to you

With more googling I came upon the term "Le trebuchet" (http://www.samuel-beckett.net/hugill.html) (The trap) in reference to endgames and thought I would bring it over here...I didn't find anything referencing trebuchet in any game theories...

Remember when Locke said to Boone, "Trebuchet ends with a ' T ' ?" Could this have been a clue for the trap/endgame chess reference ?

Great work! I will be adding Trebuchet to the games list and will be giving you special mention on the Recent Updates page. Should have the updates completed later tonight.

By the way, reading Waiting for Godot in high school was one of the most tedious assignments I had to endure way back then.

And thanks for the congrats on the link of the day, it's still up there today.
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Briolette,

I got the Trebuchet reference up on the site

see http://lostisagame.com/recent_updates.htm for my shout out to you.

Thanks again

Thanks for the shout out all_games, and nice site, I bookmarked it for future ref.

More chess ref. for contemplation:
Zugzwang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugzwang) (German for "compulsion to move", IPA: [ˈtsuːk.tsvɑŋ]) is a term used in combinatorial game theory and in other types of games (particularly in chess). Zugzwang means that one player is put at a disadvantage because he or she has to make a move — the player would like to pass and make no move, but the fact that the player must make a move means being forced into a significantly weaker position. In combinatorial game theory, it means that it directly changes the outcome of the game from a win to a loss. The term is used less precisely in other games.
In chess, zugzwang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_strategy_and_tactics) (German for "compulsion to move") occurs when one player, because it is his turn to move, must make a move but every possible move weakens his position. The player is put at a disadvantage because he would like to pass and make no move, but a move has to be made. Situations involving zugzwang occur uncommonly; when they do occur, it is most commonly in the endgame, where there are fewer choices of available moves.
Trébuchet
An extreme type of reciprocal zugzwang, called trébuchet is shown in the third diagram. It is also called a full-point mutual zugzwang because a full point (win versus loss) is at stake. Whoever is to move in this position loses the game — they must abandon their own pawn, thus allowing their opponent to capture it and proceed to promote their own pawn.
Interesting tie-in with the use of the "other" characters who were sent out by Zeke or Gale into the Lostie's camp, and Gale's having to go into the Lost camp himself when you apply it all to chess/strategy ! Endgame and the LE equation for the endtimes..."tre" means three in most other languages...Gale allowing himself to be captured... the sacrifice of pawns/pieces...Gale's "Christ-like" stance scene while imprisoned in the hatch...certainly, there are probably more references other than black/white.

Briolette,

Fantastic references. Thanks. You have inspired me to dig a little deeper into a number of episodes to see if I missed some other references to games.

Tabby,

I updated the games references on my site. You should also take a look at the Playing and Roles pages- lots of new info added.


And here are possible game references to go hmmmm over.

Four Toes- Has been identified as possibly being a reference to The Simpsons. In The Simpsons Hit 'N Run video game, Bart disappears briefly, resurfacing with no memory and mumbling unintelligibly; when he recovers, he reveals that a popular soft drink called Buzz Cola is turning people into zombies. An interesting choice since it could relate not only to the statue of the foot with four toes, but to the memory losses our LOSTies suffer from, or to Michael's hit and run accident, or it might even be related to the mention of zombies (http://lostisagame.com/Pictures/zombie%20script.jpg) in the fake script found on oceanic-air.com. The April 10, 2006 Podcast also jokes about the zombies.

Four Toes- could also be related to Sharteshane, (http://www.sharteshane.com/)an online roleplay game. The pair of islands off Sharteshane's coast are rife with a yellow-skinned race of people that, for centuries, have been enslaved by the more enlightened denizens of the mainland. The enslaved are never allowed shoes and have their smallest toes chopped off to show that they're claimed. Though slavery is a dying industry and most slaves used only for mining, one still will see the occasional four-toe on the street, filling his master's grocery list. It's unseemly for unclaimed four-toes to walk cities without purpose however, and freed slaves are usually shipped right back to the islands. Seen as subhuman by the Gefendur, they really hold no interest for the Eye of Redemption.

Tabby,

Still counting but I'm up to 378 game references in Season 1 and Season 2 combined.

The newest addition is, of course, the LOST Connections game on the Season 2 DVD.

Will be adding a whole bunch more later today.

S3E1
Crossword Puzzles- Jack's newspaper in car
Bridge- Jack's newspaper in car
Playground- Outside Sarah's school
Bicycle and Toys- in Playground
Baseball & Basketball Trophies- Along with other trophies on the credenza in Jack's office
Goodwin
Riddle/Password- The sign on the door to the AA meeting saying "Friends of Bill W". AA members frequently identify themselves to each other by asking "Are you a Friend of Bill W?". If the person asked replies yes, then they both know that they are members of AA. Bill W was one of the founders of AA.
Carnival Game- When Sawyer tricks (cons) the machines in the cage, there is carnival/circus music (John Philip Sousa's "The Thunderer") and a bell ringing the same way as occurs when you win a carnival game. Sawyer 'wins' a fish biscuit, water and food pellets
Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy/Babel Fish- 1980's computer game based on the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Series. At one point in the game, you had to get an item from a machine. But you couldn't just push a button. You had to do all sorts of complicated stuff first. If you finally figured the right sequence of actions out, you were rewarded with...a fish! A Babel Fish.
Juliet says to Jack "I know you feel like you're giving up. Like you're losing if you do what I ask"

S3E2
Glass Ballerina
Baseball- 2204 Red Sox win the World Series
Sailing
Martial Arts -Sawyer says "The shaggy haired kid has some kind of martial arts training"
Carnival Game- When Sawyer tricks (cons) the machines in the cage, there is carnival/circus music (John Philip Sousa's "The Thunderer") and a bell ringing the same way as occurs when you win a carnival game. Sawyer 'wins' a fish biscuit, water and food pellets
Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy/Babel Fish- 1980's computer game based on the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Series. At one point in the game, you had to get an item from a machine. But you couldn't just push a button. You had to do all sorts of complicated stuff first. If you finally figured the right sequence of actions out, you were rewarded with...a fish! A Babel Fish.
The Crystal Chess set and the Model Cars that were in Mr. Paik's office in S1E17 are not in this episode

S3E3
Toy Truck - Locke finds it in the cave
Charades- Locke mimes that he needs to speak to the island
Charlie says "Amusing as the mute game invariably is..."
Mike says to Locke "He played you like a sucker"
Con Game- Eddie cons Locke

S3E4
Sawyer says "We did it. Our team"
Galaga- is a classic Namco arcade video game and is now a computer game
Kick Start- Kick Start is a computer game, first introduced in 1985 for the Commodore 64 system. Ben/Fake Henry tells Sawyer the pace maker they implanted in him will kick start his heart.
Con Game- Sawyer cons Munson and Cassidy reminds Sawyer he conned her
Con Game- Ben/Fake Henry tells Sawyer "Your pace maker will cause your heart to explode"
Boxing
Target- Sawyer tells Munson "I'd be a walking target"
Golfing- Paulo is using fruit to golf
Paulo asks Desmond "You play golf?"
Sawyer says to Munson "He's making a play for that $10 mil" and "Textbook con"
Munson says "If you don't help me, the Warden will get it all. He'll win"
Yoga- Ben/Fake Henry tells Sawyer to do deep breathing or yoga if his heart rate gets too high
Carnival Game- When Sawyer tricks (cons) the machines in the cage, there is carnival/circus music (John Philip Sousa's "The Thunderer") and a bell ringing the same way as occurs when you win a carnival game. Sawyer 'wins' a fish biscuit, water and food pellets
Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy/Babel Fish- 1980's computer game based on the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Series. At one point in the game, you had to get an item from a machine. But you couldn't just push a button. You had to do all sorts of complicated stuff first. If you finally figured the right sequence of actions out, you were rewarded with...a fish! A Babel Fish.

S3E5
Bicycles- in Nigerian Village
Soccer- Daniel and the boys in the village, Yemi & Eko

S3E6
Role Play - Kate and Kevin play Make believe
Gambling- Ben/Fake Henry says "If I were a betting man"
Sling Shot- Alex uses the sling shot
Trophies- Trophies on Kevin's desk, including a hunting trophy
Basketball- Kevin has a Miami Heat t-shirt on when Kate drugs him
Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy/Babel Fish- 1980's computer game based on the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Series. At one point in the game, you had to get an item from a machine. But you couldn't just push a button. You had to do all sorts of complicated stuff first. If you finally figured the right sequence of actions out, you were rewarded with...a fish! A Babel Fish.

all_games! How nice to see you back here! Thanks so much for providing all this great detailed info. :) :cool:

all_games! How nice to see you back here! Thanks so much for providing all this great detailed info. :) :cool:


Thanks Tabby

I just found out that Repo Man is a video game and will be adding it to the list once I locate a good link for it.

Additional Mancala information - I hope; I skimmed the entire thread but didnt read any links (accept the one with the bugs lol that was nice) :

From the back of the box of the board I own - and it IS addictive... kind of hypnotises you:

The Ancient game Of Strategy From Africa.

For thousands of years, poeple all over the world have enjoyed playing a simple strategy game of Mancala. The oldest-known Mancala boards date back over 3,500 years, and ancient Egyptians even carved mancala boards into blocks discarded from the Great Pyramid (some historians believe that the workers played the game on their breaks).

From the more than 450 documented ways to play the game, we've chosen three of the best: one from Egypt, one from Nigeria, and one from Ethiopia. All three are easy to play, and all use beads, just like the original African game.

Though it could be played in hollows scratched out the dirt with anything to hand of course.

Fab thread!