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t8rtotz
07-13-2005, 01:54 PM
Sun’s left eye opens
Jin catches a fish with his bare hands
Kate questions Jack about his tattoos
Charlie wears a horizontally striped shirt
Charlie calls Locke the ‘great white hunter’
Locke shaves with his right hand
Locke, Charlie, Kate, and Jack go to get the water

Flashback:
Jin offers Sun a glass of champagne. There are three on the tray. Sun takes one; the next people Jin serves take the last 2
In the hut, Sun sits on an octagon shaped bench
There are 4 candles in the hut. 2 visible round lanterns/lights hang above
Sun wants to run away to America
Jin gives Sun a white flower

Back to the beach:
Walt wears the same horizontally striped shirt
Jin sees Mike wearing the watch; he tackles him into the water. He hits Mike 4 times and then tries to drown him. After the second punch, Jin pushes Walt away. He hits him one more time and then continues to drown him.
He hits Mike 2 more times before Sayid tackles him. Sawyer runs down to the beach with him and helps Mike out of the water.
Jin resists Sayid. It takes Sawyer and Sayid to cuff Jin

Back to the jungle:
‘How’d you find this place?’- Kate to Jack
‘Luck’- Jack’s answer
The order of water away team: Jack, Kate, Charlie, and Locke
Locke stops and takes a look around
Charlie suggests they should look through the wreckage
Jack doesn’t seem to concerned about anyone finding the smashed coffin
‘Yeah. Bring me your bottles, and keep an eye out for any medical supplies, drugs in particular.’- Jack
‘Drugs, right.’- Charlie
Charlie has a watch on his right hand and 3 black bracelets on his left hand
Locke tells Charlie ‘not to move’ twice after Charlie steps on the underground be hive

Back to the beach:
Handcuffs are on Jin’s left wrist
‘Surely there must be something you’re not telling us?’- Sayid to Mike
‘Surely?’- Mike’s response. Is this a nod to Airplane?
Sayid tells Mike he is from Tikrit, Iraq
As they discuss Jin, Sun points to her watch twice, speaks Korean
‘The cuffs stay on’- Sayid’s response to Sun pointing to her watch. He doesn’t understand what she was trying to tell them
Sawyer calls Sayid ‘Omar’
Hurley still refers to Jin as ‘Chinese guy’

Flashback:
Jin tells Sun he got her fathers permission
After 1 year of management training and 1 year of working at the factory they will have all the money they need. 2 years total
Sun objects to Jin working for her father

Back to the Jungle:
Locke calls Charlie ‘son’
Charlie ‘smacks’ his face and the beehive cracks
Kate and Jack run in one direction, Locke and Charlie the other
Kate discovers ‘Adam and Eve’. One male and one female
Jacks says there is no major trauma to the bones
Both bodies are not side-by-side. One body is elevated and the other is on the ground. They are about 10-20 feet away from one another
Jack says they were laid to rest
40 or 50 years for the clothing to degrade
Jack grabs the bag with the stones with his right hand
2 stones are in the bag, one light, one dark (white and black)
Locke calls out if anyone is there. As Jack hears his voice he quickly puts the stones back in the bag
Charlie says he was stung ‘several hundred times’
Charlie hands Kate back her shirt with his right hand
‘It was, um, if was full of bees’- Kate
‘I'd have thought C's, actually’- Charlie (I just thought this joke was really clever and funny)
Jack finds the joke mildly amusing. Cracks a smile
Jack is examining the elevated body
Charlie notices the body on the ground first and brings attention to it. As he does, it gets Locke’s attention
As that happens, Jack looks at Charlie, then to Locke
Kate has a look of ‘nuts’ as Locke approaches the body on the ground
Jack looks at Charlie as if to say ‘why did you say that?’
Charlie looks back at him and stumbles to give a reason. Did Jack and Kate not want Locke to know about the bodies? Then why is Jack examining the raised body so blatantly?
‘Our very own Adam and Eve’- Locke

Flashback:
There is a statuette of a man riding a horse on top of a small table as Sun enters the apartment
There is another statuette of a horse on the far side of the room. The horse’s head looks pretty narrow. Almost looks like a statue of a griffin. No wings visible though.
Statue of a bird sits on table in living room. On the same table as a lamp that is on.
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There is a large tapestry hanging on the wall behind the couch. The tapestry looks like a picture of a map on it with 7 Korean symbols in the upper right:
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Sun carries 3 bags in with her plus one purse. 4 total
One of the bags says ‘Chanel’ on it
Jin got Sun a puppy. More similar lamps around the room
Jin wears a pinstriped shirt. Vertical lines

Back to the jungle:
Locke offers to stay and help Charlie sift through the wreckage.
‘(It’ll) give me a chance to get to know him a little better’- Locke
Jack says 46 people need ½ a gallon of water a day
Jack starts to suspect the caves were too good for burial. He thinks they lived there.
A plane crash or a shipwreck is how Jack thinks Adam and Eve got there
An unlimited water supply, canopy keeps the tree temperature down, shields the sun out, the openings are narrow, and easy for protection from predators are Jack’s reasons for staying at the caves
Jack thinks they can all live there

Back to the beach:
Walt stares at Jin.
Jin wears a vertically striped shirt
Sun wears a gold watch in the flashbacks but wears a leather strapped on the island
Walt’s birthday is August 24th. 8-24
When Mike asks Walt, ‘what kind of man do you think I am anyway?’ After he says this it looks like Walt looks down at Mike’s new watch

Flashback:
As Jin enters the house, the statuette of the man on a horse, the other horse and the bird are all gone.
The dog is much larger now. Indicates many years have passed
There are 3 ‘soap’ containers on the bathroom sink
Jin is covered in blood
‘I do whatever your father tells me. I do it for us’- Jin
Sun smacks Jin with her right hand

Back to the jungle:
Kate asks if Jack is checking her out. She bends over right in front of him. She doesn’t get the answer she wanted
Jack is still planning ahead. Says they can build a dam for the water and move the infirmary off the beach
Jack and Kate both carry 2 bags of water. 4 total
‘We? You still haven’t convinced me yet’- Kate to Jack about moving to the caves

Back to the caves:
Locke follows Charlie as he tries to leave
Locke uses Charlie’s past celebrity to get him to warm up to him
Charlie played guitar on a couple of tracks
Just cause Locke is over 40 doesn’t mean he’s deaf
Locke has both of Charlie’s albums although he thinks his self-titled debut was a much stronger effort than Oil Change. Does Locke use flattery to feed his ego more?
8 days, 11 hours since Charlie has last played his guitar
‘I wish’- Charlie referring to seeing his guitar again
A guy at the counter made him check it in. Not enough room in the cabin.
‘You’ll see it again’- Locke
‘Oh yea? What makes you say that?’- Charlie
‘Because I have faith, Charlie’- Locke

Back to jungle:
Jack and Kate walk upon Sayid chopping wood.
Sayid chops the wood 4 times with the axe
Jack asks Sayid if he is sure he doesn’t want him to talk to Sun. Sayid give Jack a ‘this is what I do’ nod, very subtle.
Sayid doesn’t agree with Jack about moving to the caves
‘Is there a reason you didn’t consult us when you decided to form your own civilization?’- Sayid
Sayid sees digging in as defeat. He refuses to accept it.

Back to the beach:
Walt changed his shirt. It is still a horizontally striped shirt
Mike sees Jack pressing flesh with the other Lostaways telling them about the caves
Sayid approaches him. Sayid asks Mike if he is staying on the beach or going to the caves. Mike is staying on the beach.
Jack gives Jin a bottle of water
Hurley asks Jack about his relationship with Kate
Sawyer calls Kate ‘the belle of the ball’, and ‘freckles’. He calls Sayid ‘Captain Falafel’
Sawyer wants to know where Kate stands on staying on the beach or not. Neither gets an answer from one another

In the jungle:
Mike is chopping wood. He hits the logs 15 times with the axe

Flashback:
Sun plots her leave with her friend/sales person
Sun asks her if she can care for her dog when she is gone. Her friend nods ‘yes’
Sun is supposed to leave the airport at 11:15
Her friend hands Sun a passport and 3 credit cards out of a manila envelope. Hands her something else but can’t see what it is.
Sun’s friend says her family will assume she has been kidnapped. Then to stay out of sight until her family thinks she is dead
Sun’s friend makes Sun repeat ’11:15’. Sun repeats it 4 times

Back to the jungle:
Mike hits the logs 8 more times
Sun speaks to Mike in English.
‘I need to talk to you’- Sun’s first words to Mike
Mike asks ‘you speak English?’ twice
Mike found the watch 2 days ago

Back to the jungle/wreckage:
Locke blocks Charlie. He asks him to hand over the drugs
‘Give it up now. At least it will be your choice’- Locke
‘I know a lot more about pain then you think’- Locke
‘What I know is that this island just might give you what you’re looking for, but you have to give the island something’- Locke to Charlie. What did Locke have to give up n order to walk again?
Locke holds out his right hand for the drugs
‘You really think you can find my guitar?’- Charlie
‘Look up’- Locke. He says this twice. Did Locke already know the guitar was there?
After Charlie sees his guitar, a look of complete happiness comes across his face. Locke also smiles. He doesn’t look up the whole time.

Back to the beach:
‘I don’t want to be Eve’- Kate
Kate can’t dig in. It’s not about leaving the beach
‘Just what is it that you did?’- Jack to Kate
‘You had your chance to know’- Kate’s response
‘If you need me, you knew where to find me’-Jack. The word in italics should be ‘know’ but after listening to it several times, it sounds like ‘knew’, past tense. Am I hearing things?
‘You know where to find me too’- Kate

Mike holds the axe towards Jin. Jin isn’t so tough now. He is visibly scared.
Mike thinks the watch is worth $20,000
‘Time doesn’t matter on a damn island’- Mike
He cuts Jin free. No more need for Sayid

Flashback:
In the airport we hear Jack talking to the woman behind the counter
At 11:15 Sun starts to walk away towards the car waiting for her. She stops. She can’t do it.
She looks back at Jin. He is holding a white flower for her
Sun joins Jin on his left side
‘125 for Singapore’- announcement over the airport speaker

Back to the caves:
Charlie plays his guitar. Locke walks past and looks over at him
New tenants at the cave: Charlie, Locke, Jack, Sun, Jin, 2 extras, Hurley, and 2 more extras. 10 total.
Hurley sits down and listens to his portable cd player. Willie Nelson?

On the beach:
There are about 12 people sitting around the signal fire. Sawyer, Mike, Walt, Kate, and Sayid are shown. Shannon and Boone are nowhere to be seen this episode.

Back to the caves:
Jack joins Locke by the fire
The scene cuts from Jack to Kate. Love interest foreshadowing?

taro
07-14-2005, 11:16 AM
Your details are great as usual.

Wonder why Jack didn't want to share what they found in the cave with Locke. When he heard Locke he quickly put away the stones and he gave Charlie a look when he bought attention to the bodies. Lockes seems to have rubbed Jack and Kate the wrong way. I'm sure Locke is aware of their distrust for him.

Does Locke know how Jack found the cave? Was he watching Jack the whole time?

I love Locke as a character. He helps Charlie to make a choice about his habit. But the close ups of his eyes give me an eerie feeling. Wonder what he saw when he looked into the eyes of the island.

t8rtotz
07-14-2005, 11:52 AM
Some have said that when Charlie mentions 'the other people that were already here' and it gets Lockes attention, he let the cat out of the bag regarding the transmission which was still a secret between Jack, Kate, and Charlie. but then why did Jack put the 2 stones back in the bag so quickly? the mistrust is starting to show. little by little. what I want to know is when Locke told Jack he has top continue looking for his white rabbit, did he know Jack was going to find water? Locke is certainly more enigmatic the second time around. thanks for posting.