I was poking around on google a while back, and stumbled on something that might well be relevant to the mythology of the show. Apparently, the dead sea scrolls predict the coming of a "Messiah of Aaron and Israel" who will cleanse the world of sin and suffering. The scrolls also predict this Messiah will lead the "children of light" into an apocalyptic battle against the "children of dakrness." Messiah, moreover, means "anointed one," and Aaron and his descendants were anointed by god in the old testament.

Anyone else think Aaron is the Messiah?

I was poking around on google a while back, and stumbled on something that might well be relevant to the mythology of the show. Apparently, the dead sea scrolls predict the coming of a "Messiah of Aaron and Israel" who will cleanse the world of sin and suffering. The scrolls also predict this Messiah will lead the "children of light" into an apocalyptic battle against the "children of dakrness." Messiah, moreover, means "anointed one," and Aaron and his descendants were anointed by god in the old testament.

Anyone else think Aaron is the Messiah?



this makes sense since sun asked claire what the name aaron means.. and she didn't know.. kinda a clue to look it up i would think..

children of light /children of darkness = white/black..

in a lighter note. aaron will be the one to get them rescued is what i think it al means..

I was poking around on google a while back, and stumbled on something that might well be relevant to the mythology of the show. Apparently, the dead sea scrolls predict the coming of a "Messiah of Aaron and Israel" who will cleanse the world of sin and suffering. The scrolls also predict this Messiah will lead the "children of light" into an apocalyptic battle against the "children of dakrness." Messiah, moreover, means "anointed one," and Aaron and his descendants were anointed by god in the old testament.

Anyone else think Aaron is the Messiah?


I haven't thought about this storyline in awhile. The scenes with Claire and her friend at the palm reader's house were very intriguing. I love that kind of stuff! What do you think the palm reader/psychis saw in her future and in the baby's future - aside from your typical "You are going to be the Mother of the Messiah" type reading? ;)

Also, didn't TPTB say a long time ago that the whole show (at least next year) is about Jack vs. Locke and science vs. faith, etc.? If there is going to be some epic battle connected to this theme, I'm sure Aaron, being the Messiah, would come into play here and lead the Good Guys on the path of Righteousness...

I understand the whole "Aaron is a messiah" bit, but what confounds me is how this little baby could ever function as a messiah...

Well, obviously he'd have to grow up. Which means they're going to be on the island for a while before any kind of rescue. Of course, fortunately for the castaways, babies tend to grow up quite quickly on TV. ;D

And since he's going to grow up on the island, one could gather that's very important that he is not "raised by an Other".

That, my friends, is called closure. (touching left index finger and right index finger together)

At 40 island days per season, it will take 9 of our years for the baby to be 1yr.* We'll be watching for 25 years before Aaron can speak simple sentences.*

Actually, cuseboy, I thinkI can take it a step farther. We know that an Other Man named Ethan Rom tried to kidnap Claire, possibly with the help of Danielle. But I submit that Aaron was always the real goal, which is why Danielle interpreted the whispers to be saying the Others wanted Aaron. And get this, AZJeepDude: I think it was AARON who actually saved them, perhaps by giving Claire extra strength and/or using his psychic powers on their kidnappers. In fact, I think the Others STILL want Aaron, but had to change plans because he proved too strong even in utero. So they decided instead to kidnap Walt (not their first choice) and turn him to the dark side, so to speak. They will then use Walt's powers to help control Aaron when they come for him again.

MichaelTheAngel: You assume that time moves at the same rate across the island. What if there are parts of the island where people age faster relative to our castaways' present location?

At 40 island days per season, it will take 9 of our years for the baby to be 1yr. We'll be watching for 25 years before Aaron can speak simple sentences.


Again, how many shows (soap operas, in particular) speed up the growth of a child for story's sake. Will Lost do the same? First season they did the exact opposite, as you mention. However, I do remember hearing the writers say they didn't know if they'd stick with the 40 days per season recipe or not for subsequent seasons.

Guess time will tell. ;D

The forty days might have been the timeline only for the sole purpose of pointing out the connection to the Book of Exodus.

i think you are all thinking too complicated and too literal.. i think he is the messiah of the losties and not the ACTUAL messiah of the world. meaning he will get them off the island lead them to safety.. SYMBOLISM. he doesn't need to be a grow up to do that a baby could do it.. though it seems hard to believe.

juliana: I disagree. The apocalyptic overtones on this show are overwhelming in my eyes. I believe much bigger stakes than our castaways' mere escape from the island are involved. I also really believe the comic book ethos is driving the plot and mythology of this show, and comic books tend to favor grand, overarching explanations that meld science and myth. That said, I do agree that Aaron will be instrumental to any escape--by our castaways or anyone(thing?) else.

max: I agree it's that and more. Forty days and forty nights pops up a lot in the old and new testaments. It's also associated, for example, with a variety of stories re jesus.

Also I'm pretty sure a theory has been going around that the island can move. The 40 days reference ties into the story of the Ark as well. I think that next season will cover a longer time due to two reasons, to explain Walt's growth, and to allow Aaron to become or leade to the Messiah.

to me it seems this show is much more internal than external. i still believe its more symbolism than what is actually reality.
not that there isn't something odd going on there but i don't think its affecting the rest of the world just theirs

Also I'm pretty sure a theory has been going around that the island can move. The 40 days reference ties into the story of the Ark as well. I think that next season will cover a longer time due to two reasons, to explain Walt's growth, and to allow Aaron to become or leade to the Messiah.


I like the idea of the Island being an ark of sorts. It's farfetched, but cool. And, by the way, I LOVE the idea of the psychic's comment that Aaron can't be "raised by another" really being "raised by an Other"...now THAT is really cool!!! I agree with that one... :)

Juliana24,

I am attracted to the internal symbolism of the show, but I hope the writers can put a cohesive material storyline together which outlines the realities of the place , meshes the internal/external, and leads to a succinct and graceful ending I have seen very few references to previous TV shows that played in this genre. X-Files was a great show until everyone figured out about 5 seasons in that the writers didn't have an exit strategy in place, and didn't know what direction they were going till they wrote the next show. It wandered aimlessly with interesting superficial stories, but nothing really to advance the overall plot.

I've seen no one yet mention the previous excellent FOX show called Millendium in which Terry (Locke) also starred. What an AMAZING series that was, eerily reminiscent of all the threads here, which is why I'm drawn to the show. Millenium started off in very much the same fashion of introducing a large mysterious conspiracy dealing with the end of days at the turn of the millenium, good-vs-evil, and the suggestion of a cartel of puppet-master mortals lining up the events, but alas, the show was cancelled prior to its third season and never reached a conclusion. Sigh.

-Mad.Matt

Did anyone catch that there were jesus fishes sprinkled all over the mural (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wallpainting21sh.jpg)? Someone or something wants us to think the messiah's arrival is imminent...

Of course, it doesn't have to be Aaron, it could be the arrival on the island of Walt...

I don't know...I don't think it's so much that Aaron is the Messiah (the saviour of the world)
as he is the one who stops the plague. If you look in the Old Testament, Aaron was a prophet, the brother of Moses. When God killed some wicked men who opposed Moses and Aaron, the Israelites began to be angry with them. God sent a plague, and the people began dying. Moses sent Aaron to make atonement and to ask for God's mercy. The OT says Aaron stood between the living and the dead, and the plague stopped.

So it's possible Aaron is the antidote to whatever "sickness" is on the island.

(Glad those hours in Sunday School finally came in handy!)

Of course, it doesn't have to be Aaron, it could be the arrival on the island of Walt...
Todell: That is remarkably perceptive comment. In fact, I've been rereading stuff related to the dead sea scrolls lately, and it turns out they predict the coming of not one but TWO messiahs. The Messiah of Aaron is distinct from the Messiah of Israel. The first is supposed to be a priest (i.e., descended from Aaron, who was annointed by god) while the second is supposed to be a military leader:
In the Essene view, toward the end of the struggle, which will mark the beginning of new heavenly-earthly life ... two messiahs will arise. One will be a high priestly messiah from the house of Aaron, and the other, a royal messiah from the house of David. Both will have their retinue, the high priestly messiah a sacerdotal one, the messianic king a band of military followers.
Now for the kicker. We know Aaron is presumably the Messiah of Aaron, which would make Walt the messiah of Israel. And what does the name "Walt" mean? Powerful warrior, ruler of armies...

Todell: That is remarkably perceptive comment.

And to think I almost erased it because I thought it was too obvious!

ETA: I love this theory of two messiahs! It works so well with all the duality/twin/white-black imagry that they have loaded onto this show...

I think that Aaron and Walt both possess "divine powers". But Walt has already shown he has a dark/ angry side (remember the bird incident) that makes me think he is more likely to turn to the dark side (a la Darth). Aaron is pure right now, and "the others" know if he is raised by Claire he can be a kind Messiah like figure.

BUT

something about Aaron really frightened the psychic. if he is so benevolent- why the fear?

I don't think Walt's anger should be seen as the potential for evil. When Jesus was a child he also had temper tantrums-as any child would.

I think that the reason the psychic was afraid was because the child needed to be with his mother for protection. I think that he said something to the effect of "danger surrounds him". To me that could mean that others could try to harm him rather than he harm others. If Aaron is a messiah then he would have to be protected from those who would want to kill/harm him. IMHO

Unlocked on request..

Thanks Jenn. As it turns out, I was being a sloppy nitwit. But thank you again for unlocking this thread. In light of recent events, I remain convinced that Aaron is the Messiah.

is zeke short for ezekiel? the crazy prophet and did ezekiel make prophecies about messiah(s) besides just impending doom?

Adding to Todell's response about Walt...

If the story (I hope!) is a blend of many stories - bible, fiction, etc - then not everyone will fit into the Aaron as messiah theory. Perhaps Walt is the antithesis of Aaron. I know this horse has been beaten to death many moons ago, but TPTB like to sprinkle Stephen King references into the show. Walt is short for Walter. If you remember the King Tower series, one of the bad guys was named Walter O'Dim, who appears to be Randall Flagg (the ultimate baddy) from The Stand.

So, perhaps they are setting up Walt and Aaron on different sides of the fight that is to come. But (isn't there always one?), will we really know which side is good and which side is bad. We may not really know right away, despite the names given to our boy-kings.

Honbun: Very, very interesting connection with Walter of the Dark Tower. But just to clarify, this theory (and the Dead Sea Scrolls) predicts that the Messiah of Aaron and the Messiah of Israel (i.e., Walt) will fight on the SAME side against the forces of dark. Consistent with the meaning of their names, Aaron will cleanse their sins, and Walt will lead the armies.

bigmouth - I understand the story of the 2 messiahs. However, I just don't believe that Lost is going to lift its mythology entirely from one source, including the dead sea scrolls. That is why I mentioned Walt as the antithesis of Aaron.

In addition, who's to say that one side is bad and one side is good. What is that saying - history is written by the victors. Each side will believe it is on the side of good. And, maybe on Lost Isle, there is no right or wrong, just shades of gray. In other words, perhaps both Aaron and Walt will be hailed as the Messiah for the side they are associated with.

I don't think Walt's anger should be seen as the potential for evil. When Jesus was a child he also had temper tantrums-as any child would.

I think that the reason the psychic was afraid was because the child needed to be with his mother for protection. I think that he said something to the effect of "danger surrounds him". To me that could mean that others could try to harm him rather than he harm others. If Aaron is a messiah then he would have to be protected from those who would want to kill/harm him. IMHO

Maybe this could mean that the other's may try to use him to do harm, rather than try to do harm to him? Just a thought.

I think there's also a duality between not only Aaron and Walt, but Locke and Mr. Eko. Locke's mother explained to him when they were in the diner that he was "immaculately conceived," an obvious biblical reference to a "Messiah"-type occurence. Mr. Eko, a blatant symbol of religion, faith, and forgiveness, is somewhat of a warrior himself, having killed a couple of Others (but still carving biblical verses into his weapon-like club). Plus, the mural in the hatch also depicts a white person next to a black person with a priest's collar, further emphasizing the dichotomy.

Very interesting background about Moses, Aaron and Exodus... definitely can't wait to see how that keeps playing itself out!

I think you guys are ignoring the elephant in the room. Yes Aaron was an important biblical figure. Yes, he was a dynamic speaker and pivotal to the foundation of Isreal. But what is Aaron best remembered for being? The brother of Moses. Moses was the one who led the Isrealites out of Egypt, to Isreal, found the ten commandments, spoke with god, etc. And Aaron was the OLDER brother. So maybe another baby will be born on the island. And maybe, in the sense that the Lostaways are Isrealites and the Others are Egyptians, the baby will be the one raised apart, only to come into his birthright and free his people. And haven't the previews hinted that Sun is pregnant? Hmmm...

Brother sure, but you're ignoring his job in preference to his lineage. What was Aaron?


http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/a/aaron.html

Aaron (c. 13th century BC) was the elder brother of Moses (http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/m/moses.html), and by acting as Moses' mouthpiece he contributed in the freeing of the Israelites from slavery in Egypt. (Exodus 1-10)


I suspect that Aaron is going to grow up to be a medium... able to communicate with the dead and fill the losties in on what is really happening and helping to lead the losties off the island. Which dead? Walt specifically.

"Let my people go!"

or communicate with walt

or communicate with walt
gusthepolarbear: That's just what I was going to say. And the symbolism works well if you believe (as some have suggested) that they're all the sons and daughters of Dharma.