Welcome to Charlie’s Angels #2!!! :group:

Our last thread was so popular, it grew to 220 pages! So it’s time to start a fresh thread for the beginning of Season 2! This is our second thread, and we hope it will be even more popular than the first!

As Charlie’s Angels, our main mission is to discuss everything Charlie Pace - his strengths and weaknesses, his humor and his struggles, and his relationships with other Lost characters. This is also a place to discuss Dominic Monaghan - his portrayal of Charlie, and his other roles.

We’re also a growing resource for all things Charlie and Dom. In this first post you’ll find a resource list with links to favorite and useful Lost, Charlie, and Dom related sites and artwork. If you have any Charlie related avatars, wallpapers, videos, or fanfic, please share them with us! Also, any Charlie or Dom related news or articles are appreciated. I'll be going back to the old thread and trying to find links to some of the art that was posted there soon.

Hostess:

Rock Goddess

This group was originally started by the wonderful Becks last season. Due to her often busy schedule, I’ve taken over the hostess duties for this season. I have gone through the 220 pages of our last thread and updated the long-forgotten member list. If I’ve accidentally left you off, please PM me and let me know. Also, some of us have special Angel nicknames. If you'd like one, let us know what and we'll add it.

Charlie's Angels:

1. Becks - Natalie Cook
2. CruCheri - Yolanda Stevens
3. Leesha
4. XxNicholeexX
5. Jacknkate1
6. rathrbLOSTwithDOM - Dylan Sanders
7. jme
8. Hobbette
9. care_n_JIM - Monica Star
10. Watership Down
11. Rock Goddess
12. Dramapunk
13. Molly - Baby Cavanaugh
14. Trojanhorse
15. kathleen r
16. Chellekay - Rebecca Mathis
17. Peanutbutter101 - Katrina Jones
18. chocy bickie
19. Hobbitsrule10
20. Cakeordeath - Sonia Leona
21. DomsLOSTgirl
22. Domhobbit
23. LOSTrox4eva
24. Kelsey
25. Stephanie
26. Mundeh
27. LOSTDREAMER
28. x LoSt JeWeL x
29. lilpipfan
30. Hobbitsrule10
31. Merry - Estel Jackson
32. burningapples
33. LostEnchantment
34. Sifichick - Alex Munday
35. CharliesAngel
36. Surreality_fan
37. Lostfan4ever
38. Bescky
39. thelizinator297
40. ChristineDaae
41. lost_aussie_gal
42. Rhodaaaa
43. lost cinderella
44. *Browneyedgirl*
45. Fate_
46. stircrazy
47. cemetrygatecrasher
48. CharliesHoodie
49. Myha
50. ipokebadgerswstiks
51. LostwithLocke22 - Bosley
52. Half Fling
53. Eireann
54. Queety
55. Dominic
56. sleepwalk on air
57. JacksPatient
58. pacejunkie
59. CharlieLuv
60. I<3Dom
61. MrsCharliePace
62. LadyMerenwen298
63. natfrog5
64. TeeveesBella
65. Shelly
66. bright light
67. candydandy
68. jellyfrog
69. Blue Coral
70. _lost_on_an_island_
71. elfdream
72. Dezdmona
73. Jacks Rum Runner
74. cylune
75. Lost One
76. punkrockjunkie99
77. Bluedragon
78. shadow23
79. Demon Preyer
80. Call_Me_Allison
81. Michelina

Anyone is welcome to join the Angels - the more Charlie fans, the merrier. All you have to do is ask. :wink1: We’re really laid-back around here, all we ask is that you stay fairly on-topic, and keep this the fun, friendly group that it’s been for our first 220 pages. And please, no super-short, one or two word posts or chats - we like to stay on the mod’s good side.

Resource List:

Previous Charlie’s Angels Threads:
Charlie's Angels #1 (http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=6433)

Charlie Fanfic:
charlie_fanfiction (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/charlie_fanfiction/)

Artwork (Avatars, Wallpapers, Videos.):
Rock Goddess's Lost-Media Gallery (http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=231) - Wallpapers by Rock Goddess (aka Charliadoc)
LOST Video Island - Charlie Videos (http://www.lostvideo.net/characterview.php?character=Charlie) - Tons of Charlie-related vids
The Island - Charlie & Claire LJ Community (http://www.livejournal.com/community/charlie_claire/) - Lots of C/C avatars, vids, etc.
Lost Icons (http://www.livejournal.com/community/losticons/?skip=40) - an LJ full of Lost and Charlie icons.

Articles:

Dom/Charlie sites:
Dom Monaghan Online (http://www.fan-sites.org/dominic/)
Endless - a Charlie/Claire fansite (http://www.geocities.com/charlieclaire_fan/)

Useful LOST Sites:

Lost-media.com (http://lost-media.com/) - Lost news, screen caps, and downloads.
Lost Links (http://www.lostlinks.net/) - Links to all things Lost.
Brenah's Lostralian Tales (http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=brenah&keyword=Lostrailian+Tales&filter=all) - Hilarious caption stories.
Cleolinda's hysterically funny Lost recaps. (http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=cleolinda&keyword=Lost&filter=all)
Oceanic-Air.com (http://www.oceanic-air.com/) An ABC-run site.
ABC's LOST (http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index.html) - The official ABC Lost site.
oceanicflight815.com/ (http://www.oceanicflight815.com/) Another official ABC site.

Charlie/Dom related threads on the Fuse:

The DriveSHAFT Groupies (http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=17449) - for DriveShaft fans
The PB&J Porch Swing (http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=766) - A Charlie and Claire Ship meeting place.
C.H.U.R.L.I.E. (http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=12593) - A group for fans of Charlie and Hurley.
The Men of LotR Group (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=11380&highlight=men+of+lotr)
The Chana Ship: Good Cop, Bad Boy (http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=41033) The Charlie and Ana-Lucia Ship

~ RG

A new thread :biggrin:
Time to spread some Charlie love...
I haven't been in this group for long... do you guys do group discussions after the episodes, or is this all about the greatness of Charlie/Dom???

:charlie:

Hey Myha! Welcome to the new thread. :)

We didn't used to have any kind of organized discussion after the new episodes. But we're hoping to change that. Hopefully, when we start to get more Charlie moments, Becks or myself (or anyone who has an interesting discussion question) will post some discussion topics, and hopefully plenty of people will contribute their thoughts. We're all about Charlie, both his funny side, and his deeper side. ;)

~ RG

Thanks for all the hard work Rock Goddess. I have a number now. Hee Hee... Grooviness! :smile:

Yay! New Thread! Yay! Numbers! Yay! Dom & Charlie!

Thanks for the links to the websites and stuff. I appreciate it! Dom is awesome, Charlie is awesome, let's get his new thread rolling!

Oh, and one more thing does anyone know if we will have a new Charlie episode soon?

Wow, thanks so much, now I have another number to add to my list!

Yay! New Thread! Yay! Numbers! Yay! Dom & Charlie!

Thanks for the links to the websites and stuff. I appreciate it! Dom is awesome, Charlie is awesome, let's get his new thread rolling!

Oh, and one more thing does anyone know if we will have a new Charlie episode soon?

No problem. :) I thought it would be nice to have a list where we can easily find it. If you find any good Charlie, Dom, or Lost links or articles, please post them, and I'll add them to the resource list.

I haven't heard anything about an upcoming Charlie episode. I know that the writers have said that Charlie and Claire will come back into more prominence a bit further into the season - late October/November. And that sometime this season we're supposed to find out what really happened when they were taken. But it looks like we WILL have some good Charlie scenes coming up soon. The promo pictures for ep. 4 look promising.

I was just watching the new Lost special on the TV Guide Channel. While they were talking about filming in Hawaii, it kept cutting to a scene being filmed in the background. It was Charlie and Claire, sitting by a fire on the beach at night, with Turniphead's crib next to them. They were wearing the same clothes that they are in the ep. 4 promo pics. So, assuming it makes it into the episode, it looks like we might be getting a new Charlie & Claire scene, as well as Charlie and Locke! :clap:

Oh, and Eireann, I love your avatar! Gotta love Finding Nemo. :)

~ RG

Yay I have a number. Thanks guys. I hope the beach scene from the tv guide special makes the show. I'm definitely having Charlie/Claire withdrawls. I do wish there had been more Dom in that tv guide special.

I cant wait to download the Dominic interview of Leno

Hopefully your info means that theres a scene soon Goddess!

Charlie is teh coolest! i larf him sooooo much. I'm a big Charlie/Claire Shipper. I wanna be one of Charlie's Angels!!!!!!

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Welcome to Charlie's Angels, Queety!

You've been added to the member list at the top of the thread...you're Angel #54. :)

Happy Lost Eve, everyone!

~ RG

There are more than 50 Angels, that's awesome. Yay for Charlie.

Yep, we've definately grown quite a bit. Hopefully we'll get even more this season. :) I've been sending messages to all of the current Angels, letting everyone know about the second thread, so maybe we'll get some of them active here again.

~ RG

There will probably be more activity when we get to see Charlie for more than two seconds...
I mean... he was just being stubborn for two seconds in the premiere...
:charlie:

Yeah, they really should have left in that scene from GMA. That was a good Charlie scene, him explaining something to Jack. Let's hope he has some better stuff in tonight's episode.

I know what you mean, Half Fling. Though during that deleted scene I was thinking, "Jack is having to get relationship advice from Charlie. Wow, he's really dense." :) Because let's face it, from what we've seen, Charlie doesn't have the best track record, lol.

I hope we at least get a little bit of Charlie tonight, but I'm not getting my hopes up. I figure most of it will be the raft boys, and any other screen time will probably be down in the hatch.

Just 2 hours and 15 minutes to go. Happy Lost Day!

~ RG

I'm so jealous. Be sure to tell us 'foreigners' all about it!

Hmm, I was wrong. :) And happy to be so, we at least got a scene. I'll spoiler font for those who haven't seen it yet:

Yay for Charlie and Claire scenes! It was adorable when he was making faces at Aaron. :) And it definately showed she has some insight into him, calling him on how he always makes a joke when he doesn't want to give a straight answer. And that statue...well, at least it's still intact. Hopefully, going on the promo pics for the next two eps, Charlie will have a little talk with Locke about it.

~ RG

I loved tonight's scene. By the way, I thought the Angels would like to know that Dom is scheduled as a guest on the Craig Ferguson Show Monday, October 10th.

Oooh, thanks for the info, lostfan. :) I hadn't heard about that appearance. So far we have on our calender:

Fri. Oct. 7 - Leno
Mon. Oct. 10 - Ferguson

You know, I just remembered something....last time Dom was on the Tonight Show, Leno told Dom he should make his stand up comedy debut the next time he was on the show . Now, I know it probably won't happen, but if that did...well that would be priceless.

~ RG

Oh wow that was a hard post to read. What exactly is larf? ...nevermind, I don't need to know. :drowsy:
Anyhow, I wanted to post that I enjoyed the brief interaction that we got with Claire and Charlie last night (and his oh-so-adorable baby faces). This character has a lot of potential and I sincerely hope to see it fleshed out this season.

Hey Christine, welcome back! :)

Charlie does have a lot of potential, I just hope they give him more of a chance to grow this season. The intereaction with Claire last night gives me hope - you could definately seen the growing conflict within him. And it also showed that Claire is far more perceptive about his nature than I think he realized. If he does relapse, he's got to realize that's she's no Lucy - Claire won't easily be lied to or fooled.

~ RG

You know, I just remembered something....last time Dom was on the Tonight Show, Leno told Dom he should make his stand up comedy debut the next time he was on the show . Now, I know it probably won't happen, but if that did...well that would be priceless.
~ RG

I remember that too! That would be great. The episode sounds great, I cant wait to see it!

I'm looking forward to both Leno and Ferguson with Dom. He's always funny stand up routine or not.

hey! i am so excited about this new season. does anyone know about the movie that Dom and Billy want to make? the last i heard was that they were looking for someone to take it to start making it. well this is so neato. have a great day guys!
badgers

lostfan - I agree, Dom always does a great interview, no matter what show he's on. And did everyone see that Foxy is going to be on Oprah on Wed.? It's about time she had someone from Lost on her show - I just wish it could've been more of the cast, including Dom.

Wecome back, badgers! I haven't heard anything new about their movie. But at least we'll get plenty of great Charlie moments this season (or we better!)

~ RG

I'm excited that Dom is having all these interviews lately! I had thought of that stand up thing too. I wish he would do it but I don't think he will.:undecide: but he will be great anyways so it doesn't matter. Yay!

Charlie did have a much better part in this episode than the last. It actually had to do with his character and what's going on with him. I'm looking forward to more Charlie next week hopefully. :smile:

Hey Angels! I finally have time to get back on the 'lage! How is everyone? Enjoying season 2 so far? I am so far, except I missed the first half of Adrift :mad: However, I found a transcript online, and maybe they'll replay it some time.

lostfan - I agree, Dom always does a great interview, no matter what show he's on. And did everyone see that Foxy is going to be on Oprah on Wed.? It's about time she had someone from Lost on her show - I just wish it could've been more of the cast, including Dom.

Wecome back, badgers! I haven't heard anything new about their movie. But at least we'll get plenty of great Charlie moments this season (or we better!)

~ RG I agree about the Oprah thing. She should go to Hawaii and do a show with the whole cast. She did a Desperate Housewives show last year.

Welcome back, Liz! :hug: It's good that you have more time now. That really bites that you missed the first part of Adrift...maybe you know someone who taped it? If not, I'm sure they'll show it again soon - you know how they are with repeats.

Half Fling - Charlie's part in Adrift was definately better...less angry, anyway. And I was actually happy that they went ahead and addressed the statue issue, it shows that they're not totally putting Charlie's story on the backburner. Personally, I'd like to see Charlie's reaction to what's in the hatch...remember how he was going on and on to Claire about food he missed? I'd love to see his reaction to the candybars and cookies and things - it might take his mind off the statue for a bit, anyway. And surely Desmond has some peanut butter down there, of the real variety. :wink1:

Lostfan - She did a couple of DH shows last year. I actually remember hearing over the summer (a few weeks before Katrina hit, actually) that Oprah was vacationing in Hawaii. I kept hoping it was a working vacation, and that maybe, just maybe she'd visit the set of Lost. I knew it probably wasn't, but hey, at least we're getting Foxy on wednesday, better than no one from Lost at all.

~ RG

hey! i am so excited about this new season. does anyone know about the movie that Dom and Billy want to make? the last i heard was that they were looking for someone to take it to start making it. well this is so neato. have a great day guys!
badgers


This chat has been going on for AGES, i dont think they've gotten any further unfortunatly!

I'm sure Dom's LOST schedule makes it hard for them to make much headway on the movie front, I mean he only has 3 months a year free time.

Ok I finally saw the Purifiers tonight. Not as much Dom as I was hoping. I would love a still shot of him in those Karate pants though.:drool: I really want to see Spivs but don't really want to have to buy it. Oh what to do what to do.

My Dom obsession is returning. I NEED more Dom. :undecide:

Billy was actually back stage at one of the interviews I seen from Lost-Media, not sure but I think it was Ellen, so its great that they're still such great friends. Hopefully that script will be ready soon!

I still think it would be cool if Billy turned up in a Charlie flashback on LOST though.

Haha yeah, mad Scottish bloke in the Driveshaft crowd... haha

I could happen. Kate's love interest was McKenzie Astin, brother of Sean Astin, cast mate and friend of Dom.... I bet he will pull some strings and have Billy on the show.

Since Desmond is Scottish, Billy could tie Charlie to Desmond in some way. Just a thought.

I really love that last thought, Lostfan. I kept thinking after I saw Desmond - "dude, it would've been awesome if they'd gotten Billy to play the part, imagine finding HIM in the hatch." But it would be great to see how Desmond connects to some of the other survivors, and some kind of connection through Billy in a Charlie flashback would be perfect.

~ RG

I really love that last thought, Lostfan. I kept thinking after I saw Desmond - "dude, it would've been awesome if they'd gotten Billy to play the part, imagine finding HIM in the hatch." But it would be great to see how Desmond connects to some of the other survivors, and some kind of connection through Billy in a Charlie flashback would be perfect.

~ RG
hint hint to the vips, hint hint

Happy Lost Eve, everyone!

Our first thread is now officially closed. Many thanks to Halfrek to closing it for us.

I'm really looking forward to tomorrow's episode. Again, I figure there will be minimal Charlie-time, but I'm expecting great things from it. :)

Don't forget Dom's appearance on Leno this week. Also, for any LoTR fans, Elijah is supposed to be on this week too.

~ RG

Can't wait to see Elijah's new film. It sounds really good.

Happy Lost Eve, everyone!

Our first thread is now officially closed. Many thanks to Halfrek to closing it for us.

I'm really looking forward to tomorrow's episode. Again, I figure there will be minimal Charlie-time, but I'm expecting great things from it. :)

Don't forget Dom's appearance on Leno this week. Also, for any LoTR fans, Elijah is supposed to be on this week too.

~ RGI agree it will be a great episode. I am getting anxious for more Charlie though. I'm also looking forward to watching Leno this week.

An update on the Elijah appearance on Leno - it's Wed. night, 10/5.

I'm getting anxious too, Lostfan. I really want to see where they are going to take Charlie this season. And for them to deliver on a promise I heard that they're going to show us what really happened when they were kidnapped. Because that mystery is right up there with "how did Locke get paralyzed" on the things I want to know now list.

~ RG

Stircrazy, what is Elijahs new film called?!

And I'd love to be able to see Leno, please keep me (or us!) informed on how it goes!

Stircrazy, what is Elijahs new film called?!

And I'd love to be able to see Leno, please keep me (or us!) informed on how it goes!

It's called "Green Street Hooligans." Here's a link with more info. http://movies.aol.com/franchise/indiefilmguide/spotlight/green_street_hooligans_movie

Sounds like it's full of bawdy, brawling Brits. Yummy!!

No Charlie in Orientation, waah Sorry, just had to vent.

I know what you mean, Lostfan. But look on the bright side...

There should be lots of Charlie in Everybody Hates Hugo next week. Charlie and Locke interaction, Charlie and Hurley, possibly Charlie and Claire. And it's angsty Charlie too...tired of being lied to and wanting some answers Charlie. I'm really hoping he asserts himself as more of a presence, not just a follower.

~ RG

It's called "Green Street Hooligans." Here's a link with more info. http://movies.aol.com/franchise/indiefilmguide/spotlight/green_street_hooligans_movie

Sounds like it's full of bawdy, brawling Brits. Yummy!!

Ah, its been released over here already, I thought it woulda been out worldwide, we seem to get stuff last. I loved it. Elijah looked gorgeous. It was sorta like the Football Factory, if you've seen that.

Ah, its been released over here already, I thought it woulda been out worldwide, we seem to get stuff last. I loved it. Elijah looked gorgeous. It was sorta like the Football Factory, if you've seen that.


Sorry I assumed that "Hooligans" was Elijah's new film but I was mistaken. Last night on Leno he promoted "Everything is Illuminated." Looks good... a sort of dorky role.

He looked pretty adorable. His hair was black with long sideburns ( not the greatest look for him if you ask me) and he had a little goatee. Jay teased him a lot but he took it in stride. He told a story about how he is finally living on his own and enjoys doing laundry. OK end of my Elijah update since this is a Dom thread. To talk with other Lost/LOTR fans you might want to check out the Men of lotr Group http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=11380&highlight=men+of+lotr

Thanks!

You're welcome. :biggrin:

Thanks for the recap of Elijah on Leno, stircrazy. I missed parts of it because I was chatting about last night's episode. And thanks for the link to the Men of LotR Group - I've added the link to our resource list on the first page. :)

~ RG

Whew, we're almost on page 2. Time for an angels bump. Did everyone see Dom on Leno?

i saw most of it. Strange he was second. Kind of a short interview. He was funny and adorable as usual though.

I'm hoping that the Ferguson interview will be longer tomorrow. Does anyone know if Dom did any other press on this trip stateside?

I haven't heard about any other press appearances, lostfan.

He was great on the Tonight Show - short segment, but hilarious as usual. Between the sports bar story and the driver's license photo...too funny.

Looks like we'll be getting more Charlie in episode 6, too. Here's the synopis (spoilerfonted for the unspoiled):

LOST - "Abandoned" - Sawyer's wound becomes life-threatening as he, Michael and Jin make their way through the interior of the island with the tail section survivors. Meanwhile, Shannon is once again haunted by visions of Walt, and Charlie becomes jealous of Locke's interest in Claire, on "Lost," WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 26

Well....that should be interesting. :undecide: I'm not quite sure what I think of that yet.


~ RG

About Dom on Leno, I thought it has so cute how he was like "I may be going 140 mph but I'll be sure to signal everytine." or something along those lines. And that picture was just hilarious. I can't wait for tonights Late Late Show. I'm glad he will be on first so he will probaly have a longer interview.

I was annoyed that he wasn't ONCE in Orientation but I'm glad he will probably have more time soon.:biggrin:

The Ferguson interview with Dom was funny, but again too short. Also, apparently Dom is on the cover of this week's inside tv if anyone is interested. I haven't actually seen it, I heard about it on lost-media.

The Ferguson interview was really funny, though I wish they'd actually talked about the show a bit.

Dom is on the cover of Inside TV, I saw it the other day at the grocery store. Actually it's Dom and Evie...it's a paparazzi shot of them together. They look really cute together, but it sucks that they've got the stupid press plastering them all over the front of a magazine when they don't want to discuss it.

BTW, I know some don't like the whole Dom and Evie thing. But this is NOT the place to slam them, so please don't do so in here. We're a fan group for Charlie and Dom, and quite frankly, who Dom is or isn't with is no one's business but his own. So let's try to keep the discussion positive. :)

~ RG

well said Rockgoddess. We don't need this turning into a gossip thread like the abc boards. This is a Charlie appreciation thread and should stay that way.

The interview was very funny. I Knew Dom would have fun with Craig. No mention of the Speedo Dom's father wore on Holiday or the "I am my Father's son" comment. I literally Gafawed when he said that.

I laughed too stircrazy. I'm surprised Dom doesn't get invited to more talk shows, he's always a good guest.

Hey guys good news: Episode 8 is called Old Habits and its Charlie centric. Can't wait for November!

Hey guys good news: Episode 8 is called Old Habits and its Charlie centric. Can't wait for November!


That's cool.

If its called that that means Charlie ACTUALLY goes back to the Herion. I just hope that he knows what he's doing. But then again I don't think Charlie would considering the fact he's never really gotten over his drug addiction. Or so I think.

I guess we will just have to wait and see, but I'll just be glad to see more Charlie on the show.

Oh yes. I was so happy to see Charlie on Wednesday. It made my week. Peanut Butter. Drool.

I was definately glad to see more of Charlie...yay for REAL peanut butter! :)

Though my favorite bit was the rant to Hurley..."Yeah, and I'm worth 300 trillion dollars back home...baby/chocolate lollipops!!!" comment. Though I really hate it when they have Charlie being nasty to Hurley, I couldn't help but laugh at that part.

I'll definately be happy for another Charlie flashback, but if that's the title, I dread it at the same time. I'm already bracing myself for another wave of Charlie hate...you know, the "oh no, not another useless junkie flashback!" whining that went on forever after Homecoming. I'm holding out hope that though "old habits" die hard, he'll keep fighting it....or at least there will be more character growth from it, and we'll get something new from the flashbacks.

~ RG

Doesn't Charlie make the cutest Daddy?

Doesn't Charlie make the cutest Daddy? Yes he does.


I'm also bracing myself for backlash from Charlie haters, especially if he starts using again. I'll just have to take refuge here if that happens.

Yes, Charlie's best scenes lately have all been with Aaron around. :) Nice to see him utilizing that baby carrier. And that he's managing to keep Aaron quiet without anyone's help...the kid is obviously comfortable with Charlie now.

Yes, we can all take refuge here when the inevitable backlash happens, we've weathered the storm here before. At least we have this one pleasant place to discuss Charlie without being insulted.

I've been thinking about changing the thread title...giving it a subtitle. I was going to do it in the beginning when I started it, but I didn't want to without asking everyone's opinion first. I'm thinking - "Charlie's Angels #2 - Still on the Bloody Island." But I wanted to hear your input first.

~ RG

I like the new subtitle idea. I hope we get more Charlie/Aaron/Claire scenes. Those are Charlie's best scenes right now.

I'm glad you like the idea, lostfan. I thought, maybe with a more amusing title, we might be able to attract some newer members to our group. There have to be more Charlie appreciators out there who need a safe place to call home. :)

At the beginning of the season, when we started this thread, I said we'd have discussion topics every week. Our mission for season 2 is to show that not only are we a fun group, but that we also take Charlie's character and his role amongst the survivors seriously, and can view him objectively. Basically trying to prove all of the "Charlie fans are all fangirls who think he can do no wrong" people dead wrong, because I'm so sick of hearing that. While admittedly there are plenty of those out there, it still sucks being stereotyped! (Sorry, I just got finished reading a post like that on the ep thread :mad: ...end of rant.:) )

So, since we FINALLY got a reasonable amount of Charlie-time this week, I thought I'd post a few questions, based on discussions (or flat out arguments) I've seen in some of the episode threads. I want the Angels' opinions. :)

1. When Charlie asked Hurley about the food, all he asked for was peanut butter for Claire. But did he do it for purely benevolent reasons? Was he just trying to impress Claire and "score points" by being about to provide the peanut butter? Or was he asking for it to provide her with happiness and nourishment? Or both?

2. So far, Charlie and Hurley's friendship has been fairly one-sided - Charlie seems to have benefitted most from it. Hurley helped Charlie catch the fish for Shannon, he listened to him confess his addiction without judging him, and despite Charlie's manipulative behavior to get the peanut butter (the old "what about the baby?" guilt trip), Hurley gave it to him anyway, when he could've held a grudge. He also let Charlie's "fat guy hoarding the food" comment slip in CM last season, and has put up with Charlie's continued refusal to believe Hurley won the lotto.

Hurley is probably the most well-liked person on the island, and could befriend just about anyone he wanted to. So why does he continue to work on his friendship with Charlie? What quality is it that Hurley sees in him that makes him want to keep being friends with Charlie?

3. Going back to the last question, what could Charlie gain by opening up more and truly becoming Hurley's "friend" - really listening to Hurley and making it a two-sided friendship? Will Hurley's friendship be instrumental in helping Charlie get through the forthcoming battle with his demons? And could that friendship end up being even more useful than Locke's mentoring?

4. Charlie wants to be treated as an adult, not like he's at the "kid's table." But is he really ready for that kind of responsibility? And are the writers red-shirting Charlie? His speech about the top-dogs being a clique and keeping secrets from the rest sounds a lot like a certain Arzt who went boom.

An easy one: What was your favorite Charlie moment of EHH? And what was your least favorite thing that Charlie did or said?

I really hope ya'll answer, I'm excited to see what your opinions are! I'll answer them later...it's almost 3am here, and I got out of bed to type these out.:28:

~ RG

Rock Goddess, Here we go:
1. I think trying to get the peanut butter for Claire was part of Charlie's need to prove he can follow through. He promised Claire peanut butter and he was finally able to provide it. I also think he genuinely cares for Claire now and that is part of it too.
2. I think Charlie probably reminds Hurley of his buddy in EHH. The humor side of their personalities is similar, that plus Hurley and Charlie are about the same age. Don't we tend to seek out friends near our own age?
3. I think Hurley is the type of person who could be a true friend. Charlie really needs that. We know Locke has an agenda, and Jack with his savior complex mainly sees Charlie as someone he's responsible for. I think Charlie really should try harder with Hurley.
4. I don't really think Charlie will be ready for the responsibility he wants until he faces the heroin demon once and for all. I hope its soon. I really hope the writers aren't red shirting Charlie, but I have my concerns.
5. fave moment: peanut butter of course, least favorite: Charlie's continued refusal to believe Hurley about the money.

Ok fellow angels, someone else's turn. I know you are out there.

1. Charlie wanted to provide the peanut butter for Claire to prove that he was not useless and that he could provide for her. I thought it was odd that he didn't demand powdered milk for the Aaron. The Peanut Butter was symbolic.

2.Charlie and Hurley are both, sort of, fun loving, free spirited guys. They connected on that sort of level and became friends. The are like Laurel and Hardy or Martin and Lewis.

3. I don't know how being open with Hurley would help Charlie. Having a friend is always good but at this point in his life Charlie NEEDS a mentor. Unfortunately I do not trust Locke's judgment very much these days.

4. I totally know what Charlie means about "being at the kids table" I always feel that way when I am part of a group. I usually end up taking the Sawyer route and do my own thing. Since Charlie has the chosen responsibilities of Claire and Aaron now he has to step up, be heard and be part of the decision making group. Red shirting? NEVER!

Charlie carrying Aaron does it for me every time. Charlie guilt tripping Hurley wasn't cool but if I were on that island and people were keeping food from me I would be the same way.

OK. Fairly trite answers but I did my best.

You both gave excellent answers! :) I really like hearing your opinions, it helps hearing different perspectives.

Ok, now for my answers:

1. When Charlie asked Hurley about the food, all he asked for was peanut butter for Claire. But did he do it for purely benevolent reasons? Was he just trying to impress Claire and "score points" by being about to provide the peanut butter? Or was he asking for it to provide her with happiness and nourishment? Or both?

I really think it was both. I was really shocked in the episode thread to see people arguing either/or on this one...they seemed to think he either had a selfish agenda, or was being purely selfless, and nothing inbetween. Personally, I do think it was a mixed motive. He wanted to keep his promise and provide the peanut butter for Claire...that's one of Charlie's great self-esteem problems, that in the past he's been unable to provide and take care of people. The PB was a small token, but meant a lot to his own self-worth, being able to provide it. I think he also knew it would make Claire happy, and the happier and more well-nourished she is, the healthy and happier both she and Aaron will be. But Charlie's not stupid...he also knew that it would endear him even more to Claire, that it would score him more points. Ah, the power of one small jar of peanut butter. :)

2. So far, Charlie and Hurley's friendship has been fairly one-sided - Charlie seems to have benefitted most from it. Hurley helped Charlie catch the fish for Shannon, he listened to him confess his addiction without judging him, and despite Charlie's manipulative behavior to get the peanut butter (the old "what about the baby?" guilt trip), Hurley gave it to him anyway, when he could've held a grudge. He also let Charlie's "fat guy hoarding the food" comment slip in CM last season, and has put up with Charlie's continued refusal to believe Hurley won the lotto.

Hurley is probably the most well-liked person on the island, and could befriend just about anyone he wanted to. So why does he continue to work on his friendship with Charlie? What quality is it that Hurley sees in him that makes him want to keep being friends with Charlie?

I agree with you both. One is the age thing. And Charlie's humor does seem similar to his friend Johnny's. They both are fairly laid back....Jack's always running around saving people, Locke's off forcing valuable life-lessons on people and sacrificing recruits to the island....Sayid's always fixing something or taking Shannon for picnics. And Kate's usually to be found saying "I'm coming with you!" to one of the three above. Hurley and Charlie both want to be helpful in whatever way they can, and a lot of time that means taking care of camp business...fishing, getting firewood, helping people move, getting water....I think they've bonded over that. Plus, Hurley must see something in Charlie - Dom often refers to Charlie as a "bad good guy." I think Hurley is the sort to recognize that beneath Charlie's bad traits, there really is a good heart.

3. Going back to the last question, what could Charlie gain by opening up more and truly becoming Hurley's "friend" - really listening to Hurley and making it a two-sided friendship? Will Hurley's friendship be instrumental in helping Charlie get through the forthcoming battle with his demons? And could that friendship end up being even more useful than Locke's mentoring?

I think to battle his addiction, Charlie is going to have to have a good support system...and Hurley is very important to that. He obviously will need Claire's friendship, love and support. And I agree that he needs a mentor - though personally, I vote Rose for that position. Locke always has a personal agenda, where Rose is just kind and says what she believes. But I think he definately needs Hurley - he's not judgemental, and apparently has had his share of personal problems. We still don't know WHY Hurley was in the psych ward, but maybe whatever treatment or knowledge he gained there, any experience with handling emotional or self-esteem issues, could be a real help to Charlie. First Charlie has to want to help himself...but then he'll need the KNOWLEDGE of how to control his emotional and self-esteem demons. Not something Jack of Locke are going to be much help with. The drugs just mask and numb that pain and those problems, and having a good friend who might understand some of that would be very good for Charlie.

4. Charlie wants to be treated as an adult, not like he's at the "kid's table." But is he really ready for that kind of responsibility? And are the writers red-shirting Charlie? His speech about the top-dogs being a clique and keeping secrets from the rest sounds a lot like a certain Arzt who went boom.

I understand his frustration there...I hate it when people talk down to me, or try to make decisions for me. But I do think it's a hard to balance situation. I think Charlie needs some of the responsibility....if he has something to do, a sense of purpose, it will help keep him concentrating on recovery. Also, I think treating him like a child brings out the childishness in him. Charlie wants to prove himself worthy of the group...give him some responsibility and he will try the best he can. BUT...until he learns to balance his own issues and control his addiction, too much resposibility could push him to using, too. He needs it, but in baby steps.

As for red-shirting - I really, really hope not. It's just the similarity to Arzt's complaints kind of gave me a chill. But maybe the fact that it's CHARLIE, someone Jack, Kate, Locke, etc. knows, bringing these issues up to the Island Inner Circle, maybe that will make them actually hear it. His complaints are entirely valid - keeping secrets and not letting their fellow survivors know the truth or make their own decisions is really a big flaw in their group.

An easy one: What was your favorite Charlie moment of EHH? And what was your least favorite thing that Charlie did or said?

Favorite - Real Peanut Butter. :)
Least Favorite - It's a tie...his continuing refusal to believe Hurley, and saying that he got Aaron back from Danielle - I would respect that achievement more if he'd acknowledge that Sayid was a BIG part of the success of Operation: Turniphead.

~ RG

Operation: Turniphead. I love it!

Thanks. :) I used that for a wallpaper a while back. I wasn't happy with the way it turned out though, so I never posted it. Maybe I'll make an animated avatar with it sometime.

~ RG

An operation turniphead avatar. That would be awesome. I'd like to see that.

Well, if you'd like to see it, maybe I'll do it soon. I have a list of avatars a mile long that I haven't made yet. I have no problem coming up with ideas, I've just lacked the motivation to actually make them lately.

I had another idea for one...a play on the old "Choosy Junkies Choose JIF" still avatar I made ages ago. It's going to be more like a commercial though..."Dharma Brand Peanut Butter: Now in Imaginary, Smooth, and Chunky varities. Pick some up at your local Hatch-Mart Today!" Or something like that.

Ok, time for some shameless pimping. For anyone here who is also a fan of Rose and Bernard, I've started a new ship for them. I thought I'd post this here for the Angels, since many of us have loved Rose and her scenes with Charlie. It's there to appreciate Rose, Bernard, their relationship (as well as their interactions with our other survivors) and the actors who play them. So if you'd like to show support for them, and help us show TPTB that you like these characters and would like to see more of them, please take a look. :)

True Love Doesn't Need a Catchy Title: (The Rose/Bernard Ship) (http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=22439)

Thanks!

~ RG

If you make some new avi's could I get a new one from you? You did a great job on the current one.

Sure lostfan. :) Hopefully I'll get around to it soon, and I'll make a new one for you.

~ RG

Thanks, no rush. I still really like the current one. Just whenever you have time.

I got inspired. *points to my av*

And I made you one lostfan. It should hold you over until I can make the "Operation: Turniphead" avatar. :)

Priceless (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/SparrowSong/Animated%20Avatars/PBPriceless.gif)

Happy Lost Day, Angels! Anyone know if we'll get any Charlie scenes tonight?

~ RG

Hey mates.. nice club sure i'll be in here a bit to see what's going on.
Been hearing that some people on here thought that there wasn't enough Charlie on season 2. Just hang on and ..well lets just see lol

Hey Dominic! :wavey: It's always great to have new people drop in and join the convo. Welcome to Charlie's Angels...you're #55. :)

There definately hasn't been enough Charlie lately, but I'm sure that will change soon. I know the writers said Charlie and Claire's story would pick up some speed around mid-season. And that at some point we're supposed to find out what really happened when they were kidnapped. So hopefully there are a lot of great things yet to come.

Did everyone get the Lost Magazine, with Charlie and Claire on the cover? It's really nice to see them getting that attention, alongside Jack and Kate.

~ RG

Ha no..got given the FIRST one a few weeks back i was like "..Hey hey.. bit old a.. well dog eaten." It was falling apart! At least i have A LOT of behind the scenes things now.. get em a lot aways a laugh.

Thank you so much RockGoddess, the new avi is great!
Dominic, welcome to Charlie's Angels, hope you come around more often.

Ok guys, we have had two out of three weeks with no Charlie. What's up with that?

I know lostfan, it's wrong. :( Not even a glimpse tonight.

I know the writers said for us to be patient, that there would be far more Charlie closer to mid-season...but I'm not a very patient person. And I wonder if TPTB are cutting back because they're not seeing the Charlie-support there was in the beginning. With all of the hate for him that's been going around since Homecoming, maybe they're not hearing the voices of those of us who still love the character.

~ RG

I hope not. But I admit I am concerned. Its kind of like Boone last season with the lack of a major storyline and we saw what happened to him.

I would be so depressed if Charlie became another Boone...that death was so pointless in the end. I know Dom has said that if they ever decide to kill him, he wants to go out guns blazing, not some fall off a cliff and no one cares death.

We need to find a way to let TPTB know some of us still love the character. I don't know what, but something. I couldn't stand a Boone, Pt. 2. Even if they go for Dark Charlie...anything to get a real storyline going.

~ RG

Charlie's not going anywhere. Not anytime soon. we have much more to learn about him.

I just hope he gets a bigger part of the story soon. Anyway, just thought everyone might want to know that there is a good Dom interview in the OK magazine that's on stands now. There are some good pics as well. Its kind of a 20 questions thing.

Oh goody. Thanks for the tip. My Look outs haven't been doing a good job finding me Lost related magazines.

Your welcome. Its the 10/24 issue. The article is toward the back. Page 60 something if I remember right. I looked at it at Barnes and Noble.

:hug: Thanks for the info, lostfan! I'll have to look for it when I go shopping tomorrow. Afterall, we don't get too many Dom interviews.

I agree with stircrazy that we still have a lot yet to learn about Charlie. For example, most of the characters we've heard something about their parents. Ususally culminating in they have "daddy issues" and their moms tend to be shrews. But the only one of Charlie's family we know of is Liam. Charlie mentioned his mother once, when he was talking about his dreams with Claire, but that was it. I wonder if his parents are dead, and Liam raised him, or if there isn't some other family history that explains his obsessive need to be loved and needed.

~ RG

I'd love to learn more about Charlie's family also. I hope we get some good Charlie flashbacks soon.

Yes....I dread it's just going to be another rehash of his junkie days though. I REALLY, really hope not! I want to see Charlie pre-Driveshaft...more about his faith, and his family, and how that lead him to the actions we know about.

~ RG

You're probably right RG, but we can hope can't we? Also, Javi answered my question in his thread finally. He says that we will see a lot more of Charlie soon. I was glad to hear that.

That's always good. I'm starting to think that Charlie was out of the picture this season until I saw that he is getting his own eppie.....or so I think I read it somewhere.....but that's really good news.

Love the avi Bescky. Its new isn't it?

Yep its new. But I don't make them I just snatch them off of other websites. hehehe

You're probably right RG, but we can hope can't we? Also, Javi answered my question in his thread finally. He says that we will see a lot more of Charlie soon. I was glad to hear that.

That's fantastic news!! :) And congrats on Javi answering your question...the answer has certainly improved my mood. And yes, we can always hope...I have faith that the writers have something really good planned for Charlie, and that they're going to start utilizing Dom's talent, not just for walk through the scene comedic moments.

Becky...I think so far the Charlie-centric ep (#8) is a rumor. I heard somewhere that someone asked Javi about the rumored title, and it being about Charlie, and he shot it down. But surely there has to be one coming soon, either way.

And I love your avatar too, I adore black & white photos.

~ RG

Becky...I think so far the Charlie-centric ep (#8) is a rumor. I heard somewhere that someone asked Javi about the rumored title, and it being about Charlie, and he shot it down. But surely there has to be one coming soon, either way.

And I love your avatar too, I adore black & white photos.

~ RG


Oh ok. Thanks for telling me that. :)

Thanks I like it to. :p

Hey Angels! It's been hard for me to get on lately, because I've been so busy with school. How is everyone doing? Enjoying Lost season 2? I know I am, but I hope to see a CC kiss some time soon.

I hope so too Liz. The relationship has to move sometime. Especially now that they've had the real pb. There is no where else to go with that. They need to spice it up a little now.

Heya Liz, welcome back! :) I've been enjoying the season so far...not much Charlie, but that'll be rectified soon enough, with any luck.

Good point, lostfan. They've really created a nice bookend for the "awwww, cute, peanut butter!" phase of their relationship. Now they need to find a new direction, an even better one.

~ RG

I know. I have never been able to make any correct guesses about what will happen on this show, but I definitely never expected for them to find real peanut butter. I also hope we see more of Charlie, Claire and Aaron all together in future episodes.

I know. I have never been able to make any correct guesses about what will happen on this show, but I definitely never expected for them to find real peanut butter. I also hope we see more of Charlie, Claire and Aaron all together in future episodes. Me too. Well, if we keep threads like this one active, the VIPs are bound to notice aren't they? Please guys give us more.

Yep, the more active we are, and the more we voice our opinions, the better chance we have of TPTB seeing the Charlie-love that's still out here. And hopefully they'll provide us with many more Charlie scenes to discuss in the near future. :)

Here's something I was thinking about earlier. With the Tailies heading for Cavetown, what will Charlie's reaction to them be? Cindy the flight attendant is with them...and she's the one who was suspicious of him and chased Charlie through the plane in the Pilot. Just curious what effect you think that'll have on Charlie, or how Charlie is going to deal with the presence of these strangers.

~ RG

I wondered about the Charlie/Cindy interaction as well. I'm sure that could be an awkward scene. I hope the writers address that.

Another interesting posibility is what will happen with the heroin. Will he succumb because of his jealousies and protectiveness? Or will it still be intact when the tailies finally make it to cavetown?

My boyfriend and I were discussing that earlier. We know Sawyer is going to be on death's door by the time they make it there, and Jack is going to have to try and do something for him. But how is Jack going to ease his pain? Maybe there might be something strong enough in Jack's stock, or in the hatch. But if there isn't, would Charlie come forward with the statue? While it's certainly not a good treatment, small doses for a short time could be helpful in easing the pain long enough for Jack to perform some kind of procedure. I can see the scene my boyfriend put forth...Charlie (after much deliberating) telling Jack he has an answer, and handing Jack the statue. Jack looking all confused, asking of Charlie wants him to pray or something. Charlie smashes the statue, revealing the heroin.

The really interesting part of that would be the fallout. What will it do to Jack's relationship with Charlie, if he believes Charlie was keeping it for himself, keeping the secret of the plane's cargo? And then what further reprocussions will it have between Jack and Locke (and Sayid), since they kept the secret of the heroin, too.

What would Claire's reaction be, knowing Charlie hadn't used it, but kept it in his posession with the intent to possibly starting using again in the future. Cindy could come into play there also, already thinking the worst of him from her suspicions on the plane. And what would Charlie's reaction to the suspicion be...to try and prove himself, or to be angry and defensive. After all, there's still a plane load out there, even if he gave one statue up.

See, there are plenty of ideas for interesting Charlie plots...let's hope something interesting comes to fruition on the show soon, not just another "I feel sorry for myself, I'll snort heroin now" repeat storyline.

~ RG

I like all your ideas Rock Goddess. Plenty of possible Charlie drama there.

Just settling in to pout over the latest AICN spoilers. Charlie withdrawls are really getting bad.

Yes, the latest AICN spoilers are quite depressing. I guess the only solution for now is to go make a peanut butter sandwich and watch The Moth on my dvds. :(

~ RG

Sounds good, I may have to do the same. Maybe a Moth, Homecoming double feature.

Does any one know...
I had herad that episode 8 was supposed to be about Charlie and entitled "Old Habits" but then I heard it was about Ana Lucia and entitled "Forgiveness" but then I heard it IS about Charlie but titled "Forgiveness" so I'm confused.

I think that the Old Habits spoilers were false. Just there to torture us I guess. The latest news is that episode 8 is about Ana Lucia. I think that's risky during a sweeps period. She doesn't have the established fan base that Charlie does. I wonder when we will see a Charlie episode?

Hello Angels!

Sorry I haven't been around in a long time, but I've been busy with work and vacations and such. I have soooo much catching up to do here at the 'Lage...OMG! Well, see all you angels around later.

Marina :biggrin:

Hey Marina, welcome back! :hug: It's good to see more Angels returning. *passes around some Halloween candy, Butterfingers and Reese Cups*

lostfan...If the AICN spoilers are right, there won't be a Charlie flashback until January, at least. :( I know AICN is usually right, but this is one time I hope they're dead wrong. We'll need more than our DVDs and some Reese Cups to sustain us if that's the case.

Maybe we should have a project to get us through this break, at any rate. Not really a project, but to relive some of our favorite Charlie moments, how about everyone post a few of their favorite Charlie pictures, or other Charlie-art you've made or found. If they're not going to give us much new Charlie, we'll just have to make our own collage. :)

~ RG

Hey Marina, welcome back! :hug: It's good to see more Angels returning. *passes around some Halloween candy, Butterfingers and Reese Cups*

lostfan...If the AICN spoilers are right, there won't be a Charlie flashback until January, at least. :( I know AICN is usually right, but this is one time I hope they're dead wrong. We'll need more than our DVDs and some Reese Cups to sustain us if that's the case.

Maybe we should have a project to get us through this break, at any rate. Not really a project, but to relive some of our favorite Charlie moments, how about everyone post a few of their favorite Charlie pictures, or other Charlie-art you've made or found. If they're not going to give us much new Charlie, we'll just have to make our own collage. :)

~ RGI like that idea, and I'll take a Reese's cup.

Chocolate and Peanutbutter... Thanks Rock Goddess.

Hmmm... Charlie pics, huh? Will get right on it.

Hey just dropping in to say hi to all my fellow angels :)

:charlie:

I love y'all's avies! They are so funny! Hello angels! *grabs some Reeses and Butterfingers* Thanks Lostfan!

January!!!! :shock1: :fear2: :fear3: I don't know HOW we'll survive! I need Reeses and Butterfingers *takes some being passed around* Thanks Rock Goddess! I like the idea of pictures and stuff, sounds fun! :charlie:

Lots of pics, sounds like fun. I really like the new avi stircrazy. Does anyone need a glass of milk with all those reese's and butterfingers? Passes out the cups of milk.

Hey guys, I'm glad everyone likes the pic project idea. At least it'll give us something to do in the meantime. :) And it's good to see more of you back...we missed ya'll.

stircrazy, I love that pic in your avatar!

lost_aussie, everytime I look at your avatar, I crack up laughing again! That is a work of brilliance. And yes, he must be avenged.

~ RG

lostfan...If the AICN spoilers are right, there won't be a Charlie flashback until January, at least. :( I know AICN is usually right, but this is one time I hope they're dead wrong. We'll need more than our DVDs and some Reese Cups to sustain us if that's the case.

~ RG



WHAT???!!!!!!!???? January that's like 2 months away. lol. I rather see a Charlie flashback sooner than later. And I defintely hope that site is wrong.

*eats a Reese's cup*

stircrazy, I love that pic in your avatar!

~ RG

Dom just gets better and better looking. It's really not fair that men can do that. But that doesn't stop me from appreciating it. :crush:

heyyy can I be in? :)

Welcome to Charlie's Angels, sleepwalk on air! You're #56. :)

WHAT???!!!!!!!???? January that's like 2 months away. lol. I rather see a Charlie flashback sooner than later. And I defintely hope that site is wrong.

*eats a Reese's cup*

Unfortunately, AICN was right.


Episode 7 is "The Other 48 Days", dealing with what happened to the tailies.
Episode 8 is "Collision", and deals with Ana Lucia.
Episode 9 is "What Kate Did" - the title says it all.
Episode 10 hasn't been disclosed yet, but it's reportedly supposed to cover flashbacks pre-crash on the island.
Episode 11 might be Sawyer.

So it sounds like it will definately be January before Charlie gets a flashback, as those cover November sweeps and maybe 1 or 2 in December. :(

~ RG

I love Charlie too.:smile: I think he is great. It's nice to see a Brit in such a huge American show. He really adds a nice flavour to it.:smile:
Being a Brit myself I really appreciate his sense of humour and irony, he is bloody brilliant.:smile:

Hey, JacksPatient! :wavey: Welcome to Charlie's Angels - you're number #57. :) It's always great when new Charlie supporters drop by - I hope you decide to stop by and chat with us more often. I also love that there's such a diverse cast, it makes Lost different than any other show on television right now.

Happy Halloween (or what's left of it) Angels!

~ RG

Happy Halloween to you too RockGoddess!

Heya stircrazy!

Cute story....I babysit my neighbor's kids, and my boyfriend and I took them trick-or-treating out at the university campus tonight. The fraternities and sororities always have a safe trick-or-treat thing for the kids. Anyway, some of the college kids that were participating were dressed up as the cast of Lost. They had a blonde guy with dimples, a black shirt (complete with gunshot wound) and black shades as Sawyer - he really did look the part, and he kept nicknaming everyone. And they had a Kate, and a Jack, pretty much everyone...and a Charlie! I think they made the shortest frat guy dress up as him, lol. Complete with striped shirt, hoodie, and fingertapes. They had fake cardboard plane wreckage, eerie jungle monster sounds...the works. It really cracked me up, it was too perfect.

~ RG

OH WOW!! That sounds too great. I wish I could have seen that. I would have made them pose for pics.

I would've made them pose (I wanted a picture with Sawyer and Charlie!) but the batteries in my camera went dead early in the evening - we'd taken the kids to another festival first, so I took a bunch of pictures of the kids for their parents to see. We didn't see the Lost group until we were about to head home from the campus. :(

Oh, and "Charlie" also had peanut butter, and another girl was a pregnant Claire. It was priceless. :)

~ RG

I found this interview with Dom at Lost-Media, thought ya'll might enjoy it:

One Must Fall (Spoiler Alert) (http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1327)

*passes out Butterfingers and milk*

~ RG

Thanks for the link and the goodies. *cramming another Butterfinger in my mouth* Ugh.. Candy is BAD!!!

That was an interesting article with Dom. I also would have enjoyed seeing the LOST group at the university for Halloween. That would be great. I thought everyone would like to know that on page 33 of the Nov. 7th Tv Guide, there is a neat little article with Dom interviewing Austin Stevens from Animal Planet. I got my copy in the mail today.

Thanks for the info, lostfan! I'll definately look out for that one, knowing how much Dom loves anything to do with animals. It should be a really interesting article. :)

~ RG

It would be cool to see Dom on a wildlife show sometime. I know he has been wanting too.

That would be cool. They should get him to do a special tour of the wildlife of Hawaii or something for Animal Planet. He could do it when he's not filming on the Lost set and not interfere with our already limited Charlie time. I'd watch it....even with the icky creatures he tends to be fascinated with. Yeah, I'm squeamish like that...spiders and snakes *shudder*.

~ RG

I like that idea RG!

Hey guys, I just read that Dom and the cast are doing a Vanity Fair shoot. That should be interesting. I wonder when that magazine will be out?

Dom? Photo? *rubs eyes and stretches, wakes from Dom deprivation coma*

That's great news!! Thanks for the info, lostfan! :hug: It's about time we got a proper Lost photo shoot, especially one that includes Dom. Hopefully it'll bring some media and public attention back to Charlie. I'll have to keep an eye out for that one.

~ RG

Apparently the shoot is just getting ready to happen so maybe an issue in December? We will have to keep an eye out.

Hopefully it'll be December. That way, when we don't have new episodes, we'll at least have the magazine.

On a brighter note, at least we'll have new Charlie tomorrow! :)

~ RG

Yes, and in the abc podcast today, Damon and Carlton said we would get a lot more Charlie in the middle of the season. eps 8-14 or so they said. I can hardly wait.

It was nice to see more substantial Charlie scenes tonight. He also seemed more mellow even when scolding Claire or expressing issues with Locke.

I've had men talk to me that way and I umm... wouldn't have taken it as politely as Claire did. I think Locke putCharlie in his place with the "responsible, heroin addict comment."

Locke definitely earned points with me there.

I still love you DOM!!! :smile: Charlie you can make it up to me. ;)

I agree, stircrazy. As much as I love Charlie, if he spoke to me like that, I would've handled it far less nicely than Claire. Granted, Charlie was more toned down than usual...but still. And I loved that Locke put him in his place...I wanted Claire to ask him who died and made him Super Dad. :lol:

That being said, I loved the scenes. We're finally getting a storyline, not just cutesy stuff. It's nice to see Claire struggling with being a mom...and I do think she was having a bit of a flashback to the psychic's "raised by another" speech, with the way Charlie kept trying to take control.

And Charlie's self-esteem issues are back with a vengeance. He only feels "worthy" if he's doing something he sees as useful, and that's being transferred into his constant care of Aaron. It's great that he wants to help, but he needs to step back and ask himself why he's doing it...because of his love for Claire, or because it makes him feel useful and is a diversion from the stash.

Locke is definately going to play an interesting role. I thought his line about babies needing to feel constricted, while adults need freedom, was VERY prophetic. Claire is getting to the point where she's not a child anymore, she's an adult with a baby of her own, and if Charlie wants to be with her, he'll have to give her space and freedom. Because right now, he's treating her like a child, keeping her wrapped up...ironic, considering he hates when people treat him like a child. Locke cares about both Charlie and Claire, and it will be interesting to see what kind of role he plays in this over the coming weeks. :)

Yay for the return of a storyline!

~ RG

Locke did seem kind of paternal to both Charlie and Claire tonight didn't he? Like he is challenging them to look at what this relationship is. He also seems to know that Charlie needs to face his heroin temptation on his own this time. Locke could have asked Charlie to hand over the heroin like he did last season, but he didn't. Instead he made Charlie think about his status as an addict.

I agree that Locke is handling it the right way. A friend asked me earlier why Locke didn't just take the statue away. Locke knows Charlie has to make his own choices for him to continue with recovery. Charlie has to want to stay clean, and make that choice for himself, not for anyone else, or by being forced into it. If anything, it would be a set-back for Charlie if Locke tried to intervene...it all goes back to the moth analogy again. Charlie has to think and act for himself as much as he needs to let Claire think and act for herself.

~ RG

Well said RG. If Charlie is ever to give up the drugs for good, he has to face his demons and make the choice himself and for himself. I've never known a drug addict yet who stayed clean after being forced into rehab, recovery etc.

I am pleased that Charlie was in the spotlight more this week. It definately showed more of his character.

I think that Charlie might be over doing it with the responsibilty of the baby. I am absolutely sure his heart is in the right place and he cares deeply for Claire, but he needs to give her some space to explore her relationship with Aaron. This over zealous concern may come from his issues of not wanting to let anyone down again.

Charlie is a wonderful character and I really hope that he gets the chance to shin, he certainly deserves it. I think that Locke will be a major factor in keeping Charlie on the straight and narrow and a very strong bond wil form between them.:smile:

I agree. I think Charlie is so afraid of letting someone down again that it causes him to overdo it with Claire and the baby. I also think they are his lifeline to sobriety right now. I definitely see a crash happening if Claire tells him to back off.

I just thought I would let all the Angels know that the abc store at abc.com now has two driveshaft tshirts on sale. Its cool to finally see Charlie oriented shirts.

That's great news, lostfan! I don't check the abc store very often, so thanks for the info. :) I'll have to check it out.

I was happy to see Charlie in the preview for next week. The guitar is back! For some reason, seeing him with the guitar always makes me incredibly happy.

~ RG

Me too. I love the guitar too, but I missed seeing it in the preview. I'll have to watch it again.

Yeah, it shows a brief shot of him sitting alone on the beach with the guitar, and you can see what looks like Jin and the other Tailies in the background, and Charlie runs off toward them.

~ RG

Ok I saw it. I must not have been looking close enough before.

Yeah, it shows a brief shot of him sitting alone on the beach with the guitar, and you can see what looks like Jin and the other Tailies in the background, and Charlie runs off toward them.

~ RG


I thought Charlie looked kinda sad in the promo. Maybe I looked to closely or wasn't really paying attention. But he looked a little sad or confused.

I thought Charlie looked kinda sad in the promo. Maybe I looked to closely or wasn't really paying attention. But he looked a little sad or confused.
I think he did too. I wonder what precedes that scene?

I think...

He and Claire had another arguement or fight that makes him look like he is sad or something. Or it could possibly be that he's ran out of peanut butter. :p Only joking, but maybe something happened and Claire left him all by himself making him get his guitar for another "addiction." or whatever.

Say it ain't so. I'm in denial of that possible spoiler.

Yes, I thought he looked kinda sad too.

I think you're probably close with that idea, Becky. Especially after the last somewhat strained Charlie/Claire interaction we saw. But, I will say that I think it's good he has his guitar to turn to, and maybe he should try that more often (and not just because I love those scenes). It's obvious that music was once a great outlet for Charlie, and the island gives him that opportunity again...to enjoy the music without the lure of fame. And it gives him an alternative source of distraction, something separate from Aaron and Claire.

I also wonder what impact the arrival of the tailies will have on Charlie. These are the discussion questions I was thinking of this week:

He was so certain that the raft guys would get them rescued at the end of last season...what impact will the knowledge that they'll be on the island indefinately have on Charlie?

What effects/interactions might the individual tailies themselves have on Charlie? Will Bernard's arrival give him hope in Rose's faith? Eko seems to be a very spiritual, religious type of guy, will Charlie form a bond with him? And Libby is a psychologist - do you think she might be able to help Charlie really start the true recovery process?

~ RG

I'm not so sure about Libby. Somehow she seems suspicious to me. I like the rest of your questions though, especially about the raft. Charlie was so sure it would work.

I agree that there's something...off, about Libby. I don't particularly trust her, but I do wonder if she could be of some help.

And I think the raft guys returning is going to have a profound effect on Charlie. He was all set to get off the island, head back to LA, score a record deal, record Monster Eats the Pilot :lol:...have Claire and Aaron stay with him. But now he's going to have to come to terms with the fact that those things won't be happening in the near future, if at all. And he's found the Mary statues since then...it's a toss up where his priorities might go. Should be interesting, nonetheless.

~ RG

I agree RG!

Short Dudes (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10096528/)

I found this article online and thought it was interesting. Wonder why Dom is listed. Anybody have a Maxim mag handy to make sure Dom didn't make the list?

I don't know StirCrazy. He definitely should be on that list.

Hi folks. Was just wondering if I could be added to your list of Charlie fans? He's my favorite!

Hey pacejunkie!!! :wavey: Welcome to Charlie's Angels. I hope you stop by often to chat with us. :) You're #58.

*passes around a fresh batch of peanut butter cookies and milk*

~ RG

*passes around a fresh batch of peanut butter cookies and milk*~ RG

Yummy. Thanks. Hey, is anyone else here pissed off that there seem to be quite a few people on the boards who think Charlie is really evil, working with the Others and knows more about Ethan and the abduction than he's letting on? I think its a stretch. I think people tend to judge him too harshly and don't really understand him.

I agree that people tend to judge Charlie too harshly, pacejunkie. What annoys me most is when people write him off as "annoying" or "useless" - but they don't bother to really think about his circumstances, or even try to understand his point of view or motivations. Is Charlie annoying sometimes? Yep. Selfish? Most certainly. But he's also an addict with no reliable resources for help, who's doing the best he knows how.

As far as the "Charlie is evil" crowd goes...they don't piss me off that much. But then again, I'm not opposed to Charlie having a substantial dark side, as long as it means Dom has a good, interesting storyline to play off of. I'd love for him to have the opportunity to show Charlie's more dark, serious, dramatic side - and if they did go a "Dark Charlie" route, and if they did it well, I think it could be brilliant with Dom's talent. As far as Charlie knowing more about Ethan and the abduction, it's not impossible, especially on this show. But I agree some people are so vociferously "Evil Charlie!" and have such wacked out theories on how he HAS to be bad, it can get very annoying. I just try to ignore the ones who only see Charlie as a bad person. :)

~ RG

Welcome aboard pacejunkie! I was wondering if we'd see you here.

Well said, RG. I agree and have no problem seeing Charlie as deeply flawed and I even liked him as a druggie. That the character has an edge is really cool, I just think it's more complicated than simply saying he's an Other in disguise. Personally I think all the stuff with Claire last year was nice but was getting a little too cutesy. I'm not necessarily a C/C shipper and would prefer to see Charlie become an interesting character rather than island daddy, with or without Claire. I don't care if the two get together or not.

My favorite messed up Charlie moments? Picking up Claire's dairy (and putting it down and picking it up...) and reading Hurley's note for the bottle the second he told him not to. The boy has NO impulse control! I love it.

Did you guys see that Dom got a brief mention in People's Sexiest Man Alive issue? He was listed on their sexy at any age page for guys in their 20's. Not high profile by any means, but at least he is on the radar.

Well said, RG. I agree and have no problem seeing Charlie as deeply flawed and I even liked him as a druggie. That the character has an edge is really cool, I just think it's more complicated than simply saying he's an Other in disguise. Personally I think all the stuff with Claire last year was nice but was getting a little too cutesy. I'm not necessarily a C/C shipper and would prefer to see Charlie become an interesting character rather than island daddy, with or without Claire. I don't care if the two get together or not.

My favorite messed up Charlie moments? Picking up Claire's dairy (and putting it down and picking it up...) and reading Hurley's note for the bottle the second he told him not to. The boy has NO impulse control! I love it.

Charlie and the diary is like me and the spoiler section. :smile:

I totally agree with you, pacejunkie. Charlie is by no means one dimensional, and a lot of the time people divide into two camps...either they think Charlie is adorable, or they think he's evil. The whole "Other in disguise" is just too easy of an answer for Lost, I think. And so is Charlie just becoming the island daddy. That's why I LOVE this show...every character is multi-dimensional, none of them are just cardboard cut-out stereotypes.

And while I do ship C/C, I agree that it was getting too cutesy. That's why I loved the Peanut Butter scene in EHH. It seemed like a nice bookend for the C/C "honeymoon" period. That scene was like the writers saying "ok, the mellow part of the ride is over, it was fun, it was nice, but hang on because the REAL ride is about to start." I'd love it if they get together eventually, but I want a real thrill ride first...something compelling, dramatic, with all the ups and downs of a really interesting story. A story that's going to allow Charlie to grow and become even more compelling.

lostfan, I'd heard that Dom was mentioned in the People's Sexiest Man issue, but I haven't gotten it yet. I thumbed through it while I was in line at the grocery store (I hate going there so close to Thanksgiving! And I STILL managed to forget stuff I needed.), but must have missed Dom in it. It's great that he got a mention, though. Every bit of attention is wonderful. :)

~ RG

I agree with you both on the C/C thing. I'm a huge C/C fan, and really want to see them end up together, but it is time to surpass the cutesy part of their relationship. Time for some angst, and drama leading eventually to some romance. I'm sure hoping.
RG, the Dom People mag thing is very blink and you missed it. I'm just glad to see him get some mention anyway.

That's good to know...I was just skimming through it while I was waiting in line, and was only half-mindedly looking for it, so that explains why I missed it.

At least we should be getting a bit of Charlie tonight. Happy Lost Day, Angels!! :)

~ RG

Yay for LOST day, and hopefully some Charlie goodness.

I didn't see the People magazine blurb but when People.com had a feature on the Sexy Men of Lost last week, I loved the pic so much, I made it my avi!

Hope we get maximum Charlie screen time tonight. And RG, I like your comment about the peanut butter scene signifying the end of the honeymoon period. I totally agree. Now bring on the angst!

Showing Charlie in the promo to make us think he would have a signifiicant part in the episode was wrong. They know that Dom fans are waiting and hoping.... and getting annoyed.

I agree. Eight episodes and Charlie is still just in the background. What do we as fans need to do to get the writers attention? It was nice to see a Churlie scene though.

I was pretty disappointed at the lack of Charlie face time. Although I do have to say I loved the ep. I really miss those Charlie scenes. One thing though is that Charlie seemed more like his old self. Loved the scene with Hurley. I'm thinking that Charlie is actually less annoying so long as he stays away from Claire. Hmmm........Maybe what I need is more Charlie AND less Claire.

I agree. Eight episodes and Charlie is still just in the background. What do we as fans need to do to get the writers attention? It was nice to see a Churlie scene though.

When Charlie shows up on the screen I get this big spontaneous grin on my face, which slowly fades into a disappointed frown when I realize he isn't going to say more than 5 words. :mad:

When Charlie shows up on the screen I get this big spontaneous grin on my face, which slowly fades into a disappointed frown when I realize he isn't going to say more than 5 words. :mad: well said stircrazy.

I'm feeling the disappointment, too. But I agree that at least the bits of Charlie we got seemed positive. He was finding other distractions for himself, which shows he's not constantly hovering over Claire. First the golf scene with Hurley and Kate (always love the Churlie interaction)...and then he was just sitting around, strumming his guitar, so he is finding some solace in the music.

But my favorite bit....Charlie hugging Jin. It was adorable...I was so afraid he was going to be terribly disappointed, with the high hopes he had for the raft, but he seemed so genuinely happy to see Jin home and safe. It reminded me of the nice Charlie and Jin moments we had last season, which made me happy. That and that he was there to see Rose and Bernard's reunion, maybe that'll boost his faith, knowing Rose was right all along. I just love seeing Charlie interacting with people other than Claire, acting like a real part of the group...I wish we'd get more of that.

I'm still sick of them teasing us with promises...and no sign of Charlie in the promos for next week, either. :(

~ RG

Good points RG. Just getting frustrated I guess.

Oh, I'm frustrated too. :( I'm just trying to put a good spin on a disappointing situation.

As for our short but sweet Charlie time....that opening shot of Charlie on the beach with the guitar was absolutely beautiful. I hope there's a good screencap of it, because it might be my new favorite shot of Dom.

~ RG

Here is a picture, though it might not be what you want. http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x08-collision/7/collision-cap512.jpg But its still a picture of Dom

And I'm alittle frustrated about the whole thing as well. Its weird how they do this show sometimes, but you gotta love it.

Yep, that's the one I was thinking of, Becky! Thanks! :hug: There was something about the lighting in that little scene...I haven't been very inspired for avatars lately (lack of Charlie and all) but when I was watching, that really struck me as a beautiful, avatar-inspiring little moment. Don't know what I'll do with it, but I'll come up with something.

And I agree, I still love this show. You always get frustrated with things you love...it's a sign that you really care about them. :) Or something like that.

~ RG

I agree RG. I guess if we didn't care as much it wouldn't be frustrating.

And it's even more frustrating with the latest spoiler. :wallbash: (I know you've read it, lostfan):

That Episode 11 will be ANOTHER Jack episode!! :mad: :censored: :furious:

Ok, I've never used so many angry smilies before, but that warrants them! Jack gets another flashback this season (2 this season, 5th total) before Charlie, Claire, Sayid, or Sawyer even get their first for Season 2?? Are they TRYING to make me bitter?

Ok, end of rant. But that's just not right, ya'll.

~ RG

That spoiler made me want to rant as well. I guess it would help if TPTB gave us some info when we will have a Charlie episode.

Yep, that's the one I was thinking of, Becky! Thanks! :hug: There was something about the lighting in that little scene...I haven't been very inspired for avatars lately (lack of Charlie and all) but when I was watching, that really struck me as a beautiful, avatar-inspiring little moment. Don't know what I'll do with it, but I'll come up with something.
~ RG

Dom is so cute and hot at the same time. I get distracted and forget to pay attention to what's going on in the scene. Have to tell myself to stop looking at his arms... so tan and defined ... and his jeans fit sooo nicely..... See how Charlie deprived I am. :redface:

That spoiler made me want to rant as well. I guess it would help if TPTB gave us some info when we will have a Charlie episode.

Maybe that's my most bitter point of all. They keep telling us to be patient, it's coming up soon. But those promises fuel the foilers...people keeping posting fake titles (I've seen, what - 4 or 5 different ones for Charlie eps so far) and posting fake premises. If they'd just say, "Ok, episode so-and-so will be Charlie centric, this is the title" then I'd be happy to patiently wait for it. But they're fueling the rumors by dragging out any kind of confirmation, which just makes the wait worse. :undecide: Oh well, it's Lost...I should be used to this by now, really.

Stircrazy, I sympathize with the deprivation. I know I got hung up on that opening shot for that scene...I love his hair now, it's better longer, how it hangs over his eyes a bit.

~ RG

I like it long too, except they need to trim the part that hangs in his eyes. Just a little, no one has to know. He looked deep in thought in that screencap. I agree I like his interaction with Hurley and Jin. Does anyone else think he just needs to stay away from Claire and he'll be fine?

I think it wouldn't hurt if he maintained a bit of distance from Claire, at least for a bit. But I don't think if he just stays away from her, he'll be fine either. It's not Claire that's causing the problems, it's Charlie's own psychological issues, his need to take care of someone.

Through season 1, Claire was very childlike...she was perfectly ok with Charlie taking care of her. But now she's had a child of her own, and is becoming more free-thinking and adult. She needs space and freedom, room to grow and do things on her own. Room which Charlie hasn't been giving her.

There's also the fact that Charlie has in large part replaced his heroin addiction with Aaron and Claire. They keep him occupied, give him something to focus on other than the Virgin Mary in his backpack. But that's not healthy for either party. It will only end up making Claire feel more smothered, and it won't solve Charlie's problem. I think he needs to take time and and really take a long look at himself...at whatever pain causes him to depend on the drugs, whatever it is that drives his constant need to feel relevant and useful. Charlie needs to recognize and acknowledge those issues. Until he does, the cycle will continue; whether it's Claire, the drugs, or someone/something else, he'll continue his pattern of behavior.

~ RG

I'm still a hopeless romantic when it comes to Charlie and Claire, but I do think a lot has to happen before they can have a mature relationship. I do hope we see some growth for both characters, but who knows on this show.

Hey guys! I haven't been to this thread in a loooong time. lol. Good to be back.

Btw, I have a DriveSHAFT Groupies group if any of you Charlie people are interested. :)

Welcome back, CharliesHoodie!! :hug: Hope you stop by to chat with us more often. :)

~ RG

I missed this thread. And the people. *hugs thread and people*

Welcome back Charlie'shoodie.

I loved the previews for January. It looks like we finally will see a storyline for Charlie. Hooray! Is it January yet?

I was screaming at the TV tonight. A bad habit of mine. "IF I DON'T SEE SOME MORE CHARLIE SOON I'M GOING TO..." My family thinks I'm nuts but that's OK I am at peace with that.

My daughter commented on Charlie in his 'cute little bell bottoms' He's so adorable.

January??? I hate the new year but Charlie on Lost might make it all better. YIPPEE!!

Charlie only had a couple scenes tonight but it was nice seeing him interacting with Kate and Jack again.

We're gonna have to form some kind of support group because I don't know how I'm gonna make it six weeks to see Charlie's storyline start. I can't get enough of the 30 second preview! I got it bad...

I believe I joined here a long time ago, but I can't remember.

Haven't seen much of Charlie in the last few episodes. But I really loved how he welcomed Jin back. I thought that was very sweet. I really had a tear in my eye (well maybe a few more:biggrin: ) at that scene.

He was also very kind with Kate and her question about the horse, knid of reassuring her that she isn't crazy.

It would be nice to see more of Charlie very soon.:smile:

We're gonna have to form some kind of support group because I don't know how I'm gonna make it six weeks to see Charlie's storyline start. I can't get enough of the 30 second preview! I got it bad... I agree when do we have the first waiting for Charlie support group meeting?
Welcome back Charlieluv.

I agree Jack's patient, we need more Charlie soon.

Hey CharlieLuv! I checked the member list on the first page, and you weren't listed there, so I went ahead and added you. So welcome to the Angels! :hug: You're #59. :)

Again, not much Charlie, but at least what we got was pretty good. I liked his scene with Kate, and I got more of Charlie playing guitar. And the preview looks awesome....a bit scary, but hey, I've been asking for drama.

We're definately going to need a support group.

~ RG

I liked that it was the second time in a row now you've seen him on his own and not hanging around Claire and the baby. I like him much better that way. And I loved the scene with Kate. I wonder if the writers are responding to the fact that the viewers have been finding him really annoying and decided to pull back on that. He hasn't been annoying at all since Abandoned.

Hey everyone! I joined long ago but haven't been able to get on the 'lage in a while. I'm definitely hoping to see more of Charlie soon.

And pacejunkie, I like your avatar.

After watching the previews after Wednesday's eppy, I'm really interested to see how the Charlie/Eko dynamic will compare to the Charlie/Locke dynamic.

Yeah. Except isn't that episode not on until January 11?

Yes unfortunately we have a 6 week hiatus to muddle through.

And pacejunkie, I like your avatar.

Thanks. I like it too. From People's sexy men of Lost. mmmmmmmmmmm...he's a cutie, doncha think?

He is. I think Lost and LotR both have many good-looking males on their casts.

He is. I think Lost and LotR both have many good-looking males on their casts.

I like Billy and Elijah too. I think I have a thing for Hobbits.

My aim screen name? Hobbitfanatic712. I changed it to that last winter and I was like, "This is going to be either associated with LotR or Lost."

I like Billy and Elijah too. I think I have a thing for Hobbits. I'm there with you. I really wish one of the other hobbits would turn up on LOST in a guest spot.

I'm there with you. I really wish one of the other hobbits would turn up on LOST in a guest spot.

We've come close with a hobbit brother (also Dom's former roommate Mackenzie Astin). I have mixed feelings about a LOTR star cameo. It's hard to buy into the show when people are on with such familiar faces. It seems too contrived.

It wouldn't be contrived if done properly, if the writers made it a good story.

I would love it if a LOTR cast member guest starred. But if it was only done properly then it would be great.

Yes, and I remember last year and Charlie's Angles 1 I came up with the theory that the monster is Billy and Elijah in the jungle with a sound effects machine...that would be funny lol, but still it would be like, "That's it?"

Hi, just trying to slip in under the radar and join in a few discussions.
I'm also intrigued by the user with the name "cakeordeath" and I'd like to ask him/her a quick Eddie question. Pass it on! Rock on! yada yada yada

Yes, and I remember last year and Charlie's Angles 1 I came up with the theory that the monster is Billy and Elijah in the jungle with a sound effects machine...that would be funny lol, but still it would be like, "That's it?"

OMG! That would be so funny and great!

Just wanted to hop in and say Happy Birthday to Dom who turns 29 today.

Yes, happy birthday to Dom!

Happy birthday Dom! I would imagine he's out partying even as I type this post.

Very true Liz, I'm sure he's partying quite well.

I thought about that last night too. He probably was out partying while I was lying bed watching ER. :)

I think they were shooting episode 12 this week which is the Charlie ep. Probably had to work long hours and get up early in the morning. Sucks to have to work on your birthday.

Yeah, it also sucks to go to school on your birthday.

:hapybday: to Dom. Didn't realise its his b-day today. I hope he is enjoying it.:smile:

Well, maybe they filmed a few non Charlie scenes and Dom got to enjoy part of his b-day anyway.

Anyone catch Dom last night on the Family TV awards? He gave part of the acceptance speech and looked SOOOOO GOOD! The clip is up at lost-media.com
Man I miss seeing Charlie on the show.

No, I didn't see it. Looks like I have to visit lostmedia.

Dom did look good on the award thing. I'm hoping for a lot more Charlie after the break.

Let's wake this thread up, it's been asleep the past couple of days.

We can talk about the new promo pics for 23rd Psalm if anyone wants. Should we spoiler font it?

I'll spoiler font in case. I'm really excited to see what those promo pics are all about. It looks like Charlie's going to be confronted by Eko about the statue and its contents. Was that one of the skeletons from the drug plane Eko and Charlie were looking at?

Looks to me like Eko breaks the statue (is it the one Charlie had?). Finds out it's Charlie's. Confronts him (he looks angry) and demands to be taken to the drug plane. They go and see the dead priest on the way. They reach the plane at night and we see Charlie holding another statue and deep in thought.
My questons are as follows:

1. Where does the preview fit in with the smoke monster? Is that on their way to the plane or their way back?
2. With everyone now aware of the drugs, how is Charlie ever going relapse like I hoped he would (c'mon, it would be great drama, you know you want to see it too). Now there's gonna be alot of eyes on him.

Well I just read from spoilerfix that...

Claire starts to lose her faith in Charlie once she discovers his secret.

Uh oh.

Looks like there may not be any C/C romance for awhile. I still hope sometime though. I'm an unashamed pb shipper, even though I know not everyone is.