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Naughty Paws
09-28-2005, 08:33 AM
Here we go, everyone!! I am so psyched. the radio guy this morning was talking about soiling his "panties" whenever he thinks about LOST
i knew what he meant :lol1:

again, here's what i'm looking for:

(OK once again, i'm an idiot and left that home, but i will post it before the show a few hrs before most likely. i swear the anxiety of surgery leaves you with pregnant brain: you just are missing half somehow)

Naughty Paws
09-28-2005, 08:36 PM
NUMBERS
* There’s a total of 4 people in the legal office (as opposed to 8 in RBA)
* Locke tells Desmond that 4 survivors sailed out on the raft
* Code for the computer: 4 8 15 16 23 42 Execute
* When Jin runs out of the jungle, there are 4 Others with weapons

* Other Numbers
* It’s been 14 months since Michael saw Walt in his FB
* Locke tells Desmond it’s been 44 days since the crash, and the plane was 1000 mi off course when they lost radio contact. He also says there are 43 of them, 4 sailed out on the raft
* Sawyer suggests that the boat that stole Walt was only made to go at most 100 miles
* Locke says he hasn’t seen an old computer in 20 years

Who is Responsible for Saving Someone??
* Sawyer saves Michael by giving him mouth to mouth
* Michael saves Sawyer by shooting the shark

Quotes With LOST In Them
* Locke: The pilot said we had LOST radio contact, but by then, we were already a thousand miles off course. Any search teams would have given up weeks ago.

Legs/Walking Issues
* Michael is walking with a cane from being hit by a car

Sawyer’s Nicknames
* Calls Michael Hoss
* Calls the guy on the boat Bluebeard
* Calls Danielle French Chick
* Calls the island “Home”

* Other Nicknames
* The lawyer called Michael Mr. Dylan
* Desmond calls Locke Brother, Boxman

Daddy/Raised by Another Issues
* Michael signs to give his paternal rights away completely

Car Accidents/Tire Blowouts
* Michael tells the attorney he was hit by a car

Marital Status/Parental Status
* Michael signs to give his paternal rights away completely

Master List of Boxes
* Many boxes in the food storage area, some of which Kate uses to get into the vent system

* New Names/Characters
* Lizzie: Susan’s attorney

Eye Openers
* No eye. Opens with sea scene. Michael-centric.

Breakdowns/PTSD
* Michael sobs over losing Walt when out at sea

Left vs Right
* Sawyer pulls a bullet out of his left shoulder

Health Issues/Injuries
* Michael had several surgeries, spent weeks in a private hospital room, and had extensive rehabilitation, but is still walking with a cane in FB
* Michael is on disability in his FB
* Sawyer performs CPR on Michael
* Sawyer pulls a bullet out of his left shoulder

People/Places Mentioned
* David and Goliath
* Virgin Mary
* Rome

QUESTIONS
* Michael acted as if he was surprised when the attorney told him Susan wanted him to sign away custody. I thought she had already told him that in the hospital when she wheeled him out

MAJOR FINDS
* The numbers are a code to stop the end of the world
* Dharma Industries?

Michael’s Major Character-Defining Moments and Quotes
* Lawyer: Ooh, I guess we could file an injunction so she couldn't leave the city, but--
Michael: Yeah, that. I wanna do that…..they’re not taking my son away!
* Michael: Look, if he can hear me, he knows that I'm alive, that I'm coming for him, that I'm going to get him back! Right now all I've got is that maybe my son can hear me. Does that make any sense to you?
* Michael: I'll do it by doing it. Walt is my responsibility, too.
Susan: Then let him go.
* Michael: Hey, little man. Oh, I guess I can't call you that. I mean, 'cause look how big you are. So... you and I, we're not gonna see each other for awhile, Walt. Uh, but you are gonna have a great life. I know your mommy--she's gonna take real good care of you, and Brian is... gonna take good care of you, too. But you know what? I just want you to know that no matter where you go, I...that your daddy...yeah, your daddy-- he loves you very, very much. And I always will. Always. Okay?
* Michael: I never should have brought him on the raft. I'm gonna get him back. I'm gonna get back my son.

QUOTES
* Sawyer: Well, at least Walt is on a boat, probably wrapped in a blanket with a cup of cocoa, while we're on this piece
* Desmond: Are you? Are you him?
* Desmond: What did one snowman say to the other snowman?
* Kate: What do you think you're doing?
Locke: Doing what's best for all of us.
* Claire to Charlie: You always try to be funny when you don't want to answer a question.
* Charlie: You gotta be careful there. You know, it's the Virgin Mary. She's holy.
Claire: Didn't realize you were so religious.
Charlie I'm not. It's just, you know, it might come in handy. Be a nice thing to have around.
* Sawyer: I said, it wasn't the flare. Those people that did this-- at first, I thought they were fishermen or pirates or something. Then I got a good look at their boat. You know anything about boats, Mike? Boat like that wasn't built for the open ocean. Water's comin' over the side, first little squall. Maybe got a range of a hundred miles. A boat like that had to have left port from somewhere close, like the island. French chick said the others were coming for the kid. I think they came, Mike.
* Michael: Don't you ever say his name again, ever!
Sawyer: What you gonna do, splash me?
* Locke: That simulated sunlight-- is that because you never leave?
Desmond: Sick-- as in ill, as in dead.
Locke: Is that why it says "quarantine" on the inside of the hatch?
* Jack: Is this what you were talking about, Locke? Is this your destiny? "All roads lead here."
* Sawyer: Well, how about that? Current brought us back. We're home.
* Jin: Others! Others!

Random
* Michael gave Walt a stuffed polar bear when he said goodbye for the last time
* Michael got a cheap attorney who didn’t even know his name, or that Susan was not his ex-wife
* Jin runs out of the jungle with his hands tied behind his back
* Add to Jin’s english vocabulary: Others
* There is a lot of food in the hatch
* The shark has the DHARMA symbol on it’s body
* Locke takes his shoes off when he’s in the hatch because he realizes they are making noise when he walks
* Apollo candy bars make their debut

ADDITION:
Classic children’s bickering and banter:
* Sawyer: Well, at least Walt is on a boat, probably wrapped in a blanket with a cup of cocoa, while we're on this piece
Michael: Get off my raft.
Sawyer: What?
* Sawyer: You got a better idea? Then go to hell.
Michael: You're never gonna be able to do it by yourself.
Sawyer: I thought we parted ways, Mike.
Michael: We're caught in the same current.
Sawyer: You still talking? Come on.
Sawyer: You got a band-aid?
* Michael: Don't you ever say his name again, ever!
Sawyer: What you gonna do, splash me?


QUOTES

Naughty Paws
09-28-2005, 10:26 PM
No eye-- open water scene. Michael -centric

I loooove the flopping timelines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(commercial)

Michael goes unconcious, Sawyer gives him mouth to mouth….

Desmond: Are you “him”?

Michael blames Sawyer for it all

Micheal kicks Sawyer off the raft

Sharks!!!!!!!

(commercial)

Sawyer calls Michael Hoss

Sawyer’s an idiot

Susan’s a bitch

Angel wings around the moon

Religious: Sawyer: go to hell then

Sawyer: You got a bandaid?

What did one snowman say to the other snoman?

How many days? 44?

Tons of “5” markings on the wall

Locke sells Kate out to Desmond that she’s a fugative

Locke locks Kate in the closet?

LockeLove
09-28-2005, 11:04 PM
Kate is in the food pantry with all those crazy symbols on all the food products.

Michael gives Walt a stuffed Polar Bear

thesimplicity
09-28-2005, 11:08 PM
Q: What did one snowman say to another snowman?
A: Do you smell carrots?

I'm surprised Locke didn't know this, working in a children's toy store and all.

shootfire
09-28-2005, 11:14 PM
Connection- The conference room looks just like the one where Claire was supposed to sign away her parental rights. Why is that? Wasn't she in Australia?

LockeLove
09-28-2005, 11:15 PM
Q: What did one snowman say to another snowman?
A: Do you smell carrots?

I'm surprised Locke didn't know this, working in a children's toy store and all.

Wow. My hearing is shot. I thought I heard what did one silhoutte say to the other. lol.

shootfire
09-28-2005, 11:18 PM
Wow. My hearing is shot. I thought I heard what did one silhoutte say to the other. lol.

That's what I heard too. Hmmm... Mass delusion?

LockeLove
09-28-2005, 11:20 PM
Michael was in hit by a car. He's been in rehabilitation for several months and is walking with a cane. His hospital bills were paid by Susan and he's losing his apartment. He's also unemployed and on disability.

appleshampoo
09-28-2005, 11:28 PM
A few things I noticed, not sure where they fit in on your master list:

- It's clear Desmond has been in the hatch awhile, especially when he called the really old computer, "that box" - did anyone else catch that? But assuming he met with Jack only about 5-10 years prior, and I assumed about 5 or so because it didn't look like it was THAT long ago, how is he not really familiar with computers?

- The command Desmond had Locke type into the computer....Desmond definitely seems nutty considering he "heard" something after 15 but I didn't hear anything and most likely, there was nothing other than the regular noises

- The sign of the Dharma Company or whatever it is was on the shark's fin

- Next week's scenes seem to suggest Locke is really upset about what he finds out about the hatch, its purpose and he's again asking the Island why things are happening, he asks, "why are you doing this" or something

mr. sleep
09-28-2005, 11:42 PM
The main thing I got from this ep about Desmond is that he was somehow convinced by ? that the world was either no longer there or infected with sickness. What I had hoped to be a character of great insight is really just some poor sap that has wasted many many years of his life and has lost touch with most of reality. :undecide:

Blamo
09-28-2005, 11:45 PM
Other numbers - 108 (hours, minutes?) on the counter after Locke enters the numbers into the computer.

Sawyer’s Nicknames - Calls the bearded Other "Bluebeard."

Dreamers and Hallucinators - Michael dreams of the time when he let go of Walt, then wakes up crying on the raft/pontoon.

Marital Status/Parental Status - Michael relinquishes his parental status.

Flashbacks, Cameos, and Connections - According to Lost_in_Louisiana, Sceve was in Michael's flashback. I'll have to look again.

New Names/Characters - 5 new characters seen briefly at the end of the ep.

Breakdowns/PTSD - Michael screaming Walt's name, waking up crying on the pontoon.

Sawyer’s Stash - One gun (no bullets?).

Health Issues/Injuries - Sawyer's gunshot, "self-surgery." Michael unconscious, Sawyer performs CPR. :eek:

Zipdot
09-28-2005, 11:52 PM
Yeah, I don't understand how he calls the computer "that box," yet in the ER, we're told that Sarah was hit by an SUV.

Zip

appleshampoo
09-28-2005, 11:53 PM
Sawyers Nicknames - sawyer also called Mike "Hoss" when they were talking about the guns

Zipdot
09-28-2005, 11:55 PM
Sawyer called the piratey guy, "Bluebeard."

mr. sleep
09-28-2005, 11:58 PM
Connection- The conference room looks just like the one where Claire was supposed to sign away her parental rights. Why is that? Wasn't she in Australia?

Just checked on this. It seems it IS almost the exact same room in Claire's flashback. Same table and chairs, same books, only difference is a few lamp changes and the 2 paintings on the back wall are different. So, its either a clue that the flashbacks are totally implanted (since there is no way that Michael's took place in Australia, or that Claire's took place in the US) or, they just got cheap and re-used the set. :biggrin:

coupons
09-29-2005, 12:02 AM
Connection- The conference room looks just like the one where Claire was supposed to sign away her parental rights. Why is that? Wasn't she in Australia?
Well maybe TPTB want to keep the costs down (so prem service on this board will only coat $10.00)
That aside
Looks like in was not the VA hosp. Maybe one on the West side because of the twin towers. He never drew the Flatiron Bldg

LuvMySayid
09-29-2005, 12:26 AM
Speaking of lamps, the standing floor lamp in the conference room is the same as the one in Desmond's living quarters. Compare for yourself. Sorry, but I don't have the technology to post screen captures.

LockeLove
09-29-2005, 12:31 AM
The female lawyer said Michael hadn't seen Walt in 14 months.

(not sure where this fits in) There seems to be a "timer" of sorts. It keeps bepping and Desmond makes Locke punch in the numbers. Once he hits execute the beeping stops.

Nay815
09-29-2005, 12:50 AM
When Desmond calls the computer "the box" made me think of Lenny telling Hurley, "you've opened the box!" (According to the forum on old computers, it is an Apple or Apple II....made in the mid '70s which fits with the LP albums and lava lamp.)
Desmond looks really strung out on whatever he is shooting in his arm.
IF those supplies have been there for 25 or 30 years, IF, that candy Kate ate should make her sick, sick, sick!
I also caught the same room as Claire's adoption episode---think they were just being cheap.

LostApril
09-29-2005, 01:10 AM
I dont know if they were being cheap...seems to me that the room was like that for a reason.
just a thought

LOST-416
09-29-2005, 01:20 AM
One thing not mentioned yet is Jin being kidnapped by...people, and then freed by Michael and Sawyer basically. I think this would go under "Who is Responsible for Saving Someone." Just my two Knuts.

shootfire
09-29-2005, 01:24 AM
I dont know if they were being cheap...seems to me that the room was like that for a reason.
just a thought

I suppose it could have been the NY office of Susan's law firm. Maybe they use the same decorator for all of them?

wolfwood
09-29-2005, 01:27 AM
not everything in the shaft is ancient...the washer/dryer set seems like they're fairly current Maytag models.

And although the context is a bit weird my friend and I often refer to our computers as "the box"

Blamo
09-29-2005, 01:28 AM
When Desmond calls the computer "the box" made me think of Lenny telling Hurley, "you've opened the box!" (According to the forum on old computers, it is an Apple or Apple II....made in the mid '70s which fits with the LP albums and lava lamp.)
Desmond looks really strung out on whatever he is shooting in his arm.
IF those supplies have been there for 25 or 30 years, IF, that candy Kate ate should make her sick, sick, sick!
I also caught the same room as Claire's adoption episode---think they were just being cheap.

I don't think that candy-bar was a regular one. The name on it was something like "Astro," and it was similar to the "Hoo-ah!" candy-bars that are in MRE's (which are derrived from the space program). They (military MRE's) are intended to keep for about 10-12 years, if stored in a consistant temperature. They don't rot as long as the packaging is undamaged, they just lose some of their nutritional value and become less pleasant to eat.

LockeLove
09-29-2005, 01:32 AM
For some reason I thought they (the candy bars) were more recent items. I thought for sure they were some kind of energy or protein bar.

LockeLove
09-29-2005, 01:36 AM
Possible mirror:

Custody situations. Michael with Walt and Claire's situation with giving up her baby. Plus, like other's mentioned before they both look like the same room.

Nay815
09-29-2005, 01:36 AM
I don't think that candy-bar was a regular one. The name on it was something like "Astro," and it was similar to the "Hoo-ah!" candy-bars that are in MRE's (which are derrived from the space program). They (military MRE's) are intended to keep for about 10-12 years, if stored in a consistant temperature. They don't rot as long as the packaging is undamaged, they just lose some of their nutritional value and become less pleasant to eat.

Thanks for that, Blamo. Hadn't thought of a MRE type thing. But I do get the strong impression that someone has not being delivering supplies to Desmond on a regular basis.
Gonna stop the video on that wall and see how many marks of 5 I can count before it makes my dizzy ;)

Pistol Pete
09-29-2005, 01:37 AM
I don't think that candy-bar was a regular one. The name on it was something like "Astro," and it was similar to the "Hoo-ah!" candy-bars that are in MRE's (which are derrived from the space program). They (military MRE's) are intended to keep for about 10-12 years, if stored in a consistant temperature. They don't rot as long as the packaging is undamaged, they just lose some of their nutritional value and become less pleasant to eat.



I believe it said Apollo..........

Nay815
09-29-2005, 01:40 AM
I believe it said Apollo..........

Google states Apollo candy bars are no longer made but haven't yet found when they were made........still Googling. Apollo, like the space program from the '70s? Again fits with interior of the hatch...computer, lava lamp, vinyl albums.

Sam G
09-29-2005, 05:05 PM
Desmond may be referring to the computer as "That Box" because it is ancient and frustrating and he knows the progress that has been made.

"That box" may be being used because it hasn't been infected by computer viruses.

PhillyGirl2873
09-29-2005, 05:18 PM
Desmond calls Locke - "boxman"

duckyislost
09-29-2005, 05:26 PM
There are black and white floor tiles in the hatch living area, although not a checkerboard pattern.

sledgeweb
09-29-2005, 05:33 PM
The expiration date on the candy bar is ?-23-04

shootfire
09-29-2005, 05:33 PM
Oh, my favorite quote of the night-
"What are you gonna do? Splash me?"

Naughty Paws
09-29-2005, 06:47 PM
Oh, my favorite quote of the night-
"What are you gonna do? Splash me?"
me too!
and "got a bandaid?"

off to surgery tomorrow...

will be able to post minimally and read a lot!

wish me luck
wish i could participate more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:undecide:

Sam G
09-29-2005, 06:49 PM
Black & White dart board

PhillyGirl2873
09-29-2005, 06:49 PM
By the way, what happened to the Long Lost List keeper? Haven't seen her in Season 2 yet.

car88win
09-29-2005, 07:00 PM
Hi Phillygirl, we are here just on another thread as well. Love you guys for finding all this stuff. Most of us can't get the chance to watch it again until later.

tpeltz1
10-01-2005, 01:35 PM
Just checked on this. It seems it IS almost the exact same room in Claire's flashback. Same table and chairs, same books, only difference is a few lamp changes and the 2 paintings on the back wall are different. So, its either a clue that the flashbacks are totally implanted (since there is no way that Michael's took place in Australia, or that Claire's took place in the US) or, they just got cheap and re-used the set. :biggrin:

The window was a little different too. The window in RBA was square, but made to look like an arched window. Like it was another branch of the same law firm that was going for the same look. Compare the window in these two pics.

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=237&pos=646

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=736&pos=95

I think they intentionally used the same room, but modified it enough to look like a branch office.

sooner17
10-01-2005, 01:42 PM
Desmond calls Locke - "boxman"

Phillygirl has it right.

He says, "Do you know how to work that, box man?"

Not "Do you know how to work that box, man?"

that1spunkygirl
10-02-2005, 12:11 AM
I posted this on LLL but they want only facts, and I thought maybe, not sure, that you could use this here.

Way back at the beginning of season 1, someone mentioned some sort of magnet therapy that has been known to help people walk again and theorized that had something to do with how Locke was able to walk on the island. Now that we know there is a big magnet in the island, it might be something to look into.

Naughty Paws
10-03-2005, 10:44 PM
thanks everyone for your imput and ideas.
i am beginning to feel better and i'm sure i will catch up within the next week or two.
i wont have adrift done by next week's airing, though.
im sure you all understand
thanks again

Naughty Paws
10-11-2005, 07:19 PM
in the second post, i listed the tally for Adrift.

as soon at the trans. for Orientation is out, i will work on that.

PLEASE tell me if i missed anything important!!!!!