Did anyone notice that when there was an underwater shot of the shark going by, there was the same emblem as the one on Desmond's suit (not to mention the jars of food) on the underside of its tail? Wow! I wonder what that emblem means! :rolleyes:

Here it is:
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/lostShark.jpg

And:
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/hatchLogo.jpg

It says DHARMA. Google DHARMA and see what you get!

Huh! Thanks!

I looked it up and I'm getting a whole bunch of stuff about Buddism, and the path to happiness within that. Interesting... :D

"Dharma" means "protection"
Clever.

Could this Dharma corporation/agency/organization/what ever be Korean? Look at the old Korean flag on wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_old_Korea.jpg

The trigrams (the three lines) surrounding the snake match the trigrams on the old Korean flag, except turned to the right 90 degrees.

Could this Dharma corporation/agency/organization/what ever be Korean? Look at the old Korean flag on wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_old_Korea.jpg

The trigrams (the three lines) surrounding the snake match the trigrams on the old Korean flag, except turned to the right 90 degrees.

THAT was where I recognized that symbol! Man, I knew I had seen something like it, somewhere before :biggrin:

Could this Dharma corporation/agency/organization/what ever be Korean? Look at the old Korean flag on wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_old_Korea.jpg

The trigrams (the three lines) surrounding the snake match the trigrams on the old Korean flag, except turned to the right 90 degrees.

This probably belongs in Spoiler Theories but ... what if Sun's dad is behind this entire thing? He certainly has the financial means to pull it off! :ohwell:

Regarding your spoiler theory: Exactly! I've been wondering if Sun's dad (Piek? Peik? However you spell it) could be "him", not only the financier of all this experimentation, but also some kind of cult leader. This alters my original idea about military experimentation to instead be experimentation which is privately funded by international corporate funding. And now I've added a whole new dimension to my theorizing, which I discussed in another post (in a thread called "Are you him?"), basically musing that Peik could be a cult leader of a utopian/doomsday cult, in which they foresee the whole world ending and only their idyllic society surviving, in which no one ever needs to get injured or old....or somethin' like that, I guess we'll find out! So the experimentation could be for idealistic reasons, not for corporate profits or military reasons.

P.S. Back to the emblem thing, I forgot that I wanted to ask a possibly dumb or possibly KEY TO EVERYTHING (lol) question:

In "Man of Science, Man of Faith", did anyone else notice a symbol on the side of Sarah's hospital bed, and was it this same logo/emblem? Also, was that hospital the same one that Locke had his "kidney" surgery in?

sun and jin should be tied up to be asked questions just in case.

they might know something.!

sun and jin should be tied up to be asked questions just in case.
No, I am sure Jin is clueless and Piek never let him know WHY he was told to do anything, he just had to DO IT. Man, you don't question Piek and you also don't even vary in the slightest from what he tells you to do or misunderstand the tone of his order or the degree of what you are to do or ANYTHING. As for Sun, I think Piek kept her totally out of the loop. I think she knows her father is a powerful man, but as for all the "other" details, I think she is kept clueless.

This probably belongs in Spoiler Theories but ... what if Sun's dad is behind this entire thing? He certainly has the financial means to pull it off! :ohwell:


Theres a screencap up of Jin in his office.Sun's father has a picture of what appears to be the island near his desk!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. Back to the emblem thing, I forgot that I wanted to ask a possibly dumb or possibly KEY TO EVERYTHING (lol) question:

In "Man of Science, Man of Faith", did anyone else notice a symbol on the side of Sarah's hospital bed, and was it this same logo/emblem? Also, was that hospital the same one that Locke had his "kidney" surgery in?

I didn't notice a symbol, but I'll go back and look.

Also, the way Mr. Piek seems to have people all over the place. That makes him a creepy guy in my book. He does seem to have a lot of expendable cash. But, would he risk his daughter on the island, if he knew it was dangerous?

Maybe he knew his daughter was not supposed to be on the plane. She was supposed to leave the airport, get in a car and go. Maybe he knew about that, so he didn't believe she would be in danger.

Well, if Piek is "him" or at least Daddy Warbucks funding the whole thing, he must believe in whatever is going on and whatever the utopian/doomsday cult vision is, if that last bit is a correct theory about what is going on. If so, and if they (the cult) apparently believe that the entire world is going to end except for their underground utopia, then Piek would logically want to bring his child there in the end. He didn't want her to know about it during the many years of planning for the ultimate "doomsday/utopia" apocalyptic vision, but once that "glorious" (or awful, depending on how one sees things!) day arrived, once all the planning is done as Locke foreshadowed in his mousetrap analogy, wouldn't Piek logically want his own child to survive whatever Desmond seems to think has or will destroy the outside world? ...Guess big daddy doesn't give a hoot about Sun's Sharpei. Poor doggie. But I digress...so Piek would have seen to it that she and Jin get on that plane, knowing it was going to crash. It seems that somehow it was ensured that those the "others" wanted to survive the crash, would survive, so Piek might have known she would be safe. I dunno. I hope we find out SOMETHING in episode three! For starters, I want Jack and Desmond's conversation to advance off a dime, or I may spontaneously combust *lol*!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_ching

The symbol is an I Ching... ancient Chinese secret.
Click the numbers in the chart:cool:

This probably belongs in Spoiler Theories but ... what if Sun's dad is behind this entire thing? He certainly has the financial means to pull it off! :ohwell:

I posted a similar thought yesterday...another thing to think about is:

How in epi 1.17 "...in Translation" the guy that Jin had to go "talk to" for Sun's father just happened to be the Secretary of Environmental Safety...hmmm coincidence?? Never...

Theres a screencap up of Jin in his office.Sun's father has a picture of what appears to be the island near his desk!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Can someone get me a screencap of this? What episode was it in?

Did anyone notice that when there was an underwater shot of the shark going by, there was the same emblem as the one on Desmond's suit (not to mention the jars of food) on the underside of its tail? Wow! I wonder what that emblem means! :rolleyes:

It's not exactly the same. All the symbols in the hatch, on the food, etc have a ying/yang appearance with the swan in the center. The one on the shark has a straight bar through the center, no curved line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_ching

The symbol is an I Ching... ancient Chinese secret.
Click the numbers in the chart:cool:

I'm surprised nobody is jumping on this. The descriptions of the numbers certainly seem to have parallels with the show...maybe an industrious and imaginitive forum-goer will figure it out.

Doesn't the mural in the hatch have a drawing of a shark in it?

Huh! Thanks!

I looked it up and I'm getting a whole bunch of stuff about Buddism, and the path to happiness within that. Interesting... :D
And the number 108 (as in, the sum of 4 8 15 16 23 42) also has great significance in Buddhism!

To wit: http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=20449

The dots are starting to connect here, folks...but we still don't know exactly what we're looking at.

On tenter hooks, OUT!