Right after we see Kate climb up into the ventilation shaft we go to the scene where Locke is sitting at Desmonds kitchen table/booth and they are talking. The dialog is something like this:

Locke: Our plane was off coarse, they would have stopped looking for us weeks ago.
Desmond: So your traveling from Sydney to Los Angeles?
Locke: Yes
Desmond: ??? So the wall is still out there??? (the line in question)
Locke: As far as I know.

Is that what Desmond says? I have replayed over, but I still can't make it out. If someone knows please help.

i'm pretty sure he said "the world is still out there?"
and locke said, "as far as i know."

did i hear correctly?

I thought he said either . 1. So {are you} all still out there or 2. So the world is still out there.

I didn't notice that. I wonder if he said "world."

he said "World"

They had to give him an accent, like they don't torture us enough already! :D I thought he said world too, but wall would be more interesting.

I'm pretty sure he says "The world is still out there?"

In the Canadian preview


Kate sneaks up on him and bonks him on the back of the head. Someone shoots a gun, putting a hole in the roof you can see sunlight through? Desmond looks upset and says, "Whatdya do? We're all gonna die"

He obviously thought there was a world wide disaster, plague, end of the world type of thing.

yes, i think world makes much more sense.

No, he said "you're all still out there?" This was in response to Locke saying they were there for 44 days. The conversation was something like
How long have you been here?
44 days
you're all still out there?
yeah
how many have fallen sick?

The "you're all still out there?" appears in the closed captioning. It's on another thread.

Closed Captioning has been wrong before. And I'm positive he said "the world".

That's so funny. I thought he said "the wall" at first, as well. Then I thought, maybe he said, "The Walt". Then finally settled on the world. There is definitely a W in there, though. Bloody accents. :p

I heard "world" but "still" make sence

He says, "The world is still out there?"


I dont see Desmond being that difficult to understand. Maybe thats just my gift of growing up with Irish grandparents that I can easily understand the british-irish accent......

Closed Captioning has him saying "They're all still out there?" but I also thought I heard the "world"...either makes sense, in any case he thought nothing was alive or could be alive outside of his hatch - but yet he thought a replacement was coming for him somehow?

i'm pretty sure he said "the world is still out there?"
and locke said, "as far as i know."

did i hear correctly?
I thought he said, "they're all still out there?" Meaning the other survivors since Desmond thinks they should be sick by now (and possibly dead).

Closed Captioning has him saying "They're all still out there?" but I also thought I heard the "world"...either makes sense, in any case he thought nothing was alive or could be alive outside of his hatch - but yet he thought a replacement was coming for him somehow?
:biggrin: [bragging] I knew I heard him correctly! :smile: Gee, I'm sorry so many can't understand him. He sounds perfectly fine to me.

And yet he has an up to the current fashion washing machine that he operates digital like I am sure and yet he questions the world going on Grab a scrubboard brother

He says, "The world is still out there?"


I dont see Desmond being that difficult to understand. Maybe thats just my gift of growing up with Irish grandparents that I can easily understand the british-irish accent......
Nope. He says, "Are THEY ALL still out there?" Locke had told him the number of survivors, so he asked if they were all still out there. He knew about the quarantine and asked if anyone had gotten sick. He was wondering if all of those survivors were still alive.

Also take it from a 'coupon' person the detergent and softner look pretty current

Also take it from a 'coupon' person the detergent and softner look pretty current
They are! I noticed the Downey bottles and Tide bottle right off ... even without having to rewind and play it frame by frame! LOL Maybe there is another entrance and things are just "left" for him ...

i DEFINITELY heard "the world"

i DEFINITELY heard "the world"
I'm sorry but it's not the "world." Someone here has already clarified it by seeing it on closed-caption. She read it. It's "they're ALL still out there?"

Jbdean the closed captioning has been wrong before.

If you saw the Canadian preview, you'd be sure it was world that he said. It's what I heard.

Jbdean the closed captioning has been wrong before.

If you saw the Canadian preview, you'd be sure it was world that he said. It's what I heard.
Okay, I didn't know that. But I heard "all" and it fits better with his asking Locke about if they had gotten sick yet and that Locke preceeded Desmond's comment with telling him how many had survived. I'd think that what you heard in Canada was what we heard here. Wouldn't it be the same?

First of all if it is this or whatever it just strated but I am already VERY tired of pre previews from Canada and as viewers and consumers we should ask Why are we not first we USA? As a Brooklynite , New Yorker, US resident and citizen I find this offensive,

Sorry Jbdean. I meant if you heard the preview. We all heard the same line in the show.

Sorry Jbdean. I meant if you heard the preview. We all heard the same line in the show.
No biggie,Walt! :biggrin: I can't believe you're still online! :24:

closed captioning is often wrong.


in fact, wasn't there a lot of debate when closed-captioning said "there were no survivors of oceanic flight 815!" and so the writers of the show had to go on record and say for a fact that "we're the survivors..." was said, and that we had to decide for ourselves if it was an echo or if someone was answering and saying "WE'RE the survivors..."?


i believe so.

closed captioning is often wrong.


in fact, wasn't there a lot of debate when closed-captioning said "there were no survivors of oceanic flight 815!" and so the writers of the show had to go on record and say for a fact that "we're the survivors..." was said, and that we had to decide for ourselves if it was an echo or if someone was answering and saying "WE'RE the survivors..."?


i believe so. OH yes...memories :biggrin: How many of us popped in that dvd once our Lost box set came in to finally see it said in all its glory on the close captioning? The more reliable closed captioning! Even though it was confirmed from a writer, it was still oddly satisfying to see it.

I suppose we should bring it up to the writers again? Although I really did hear "world" and didnt have any doubt until seeing it brought up on this forum.

I heard it as "World".....and when I heard that I thought of Desmond and all those old computers in the hatch. I wonder if Desmond was one of those people who thought the World would end when the year 2000 came?! It would be ironic since most of those computers he is surrounded by appear to be running on code that would possibly malfunction when the year 2000 happened.....and we have all those marks on the walls that to me could add up to a few years.

Just a thought.

Assuming he did say "The world is still out there?" this could mean that he thinks everyone in the world is dead or everthing is destroyed. It makes you wonder what was his original reason/s for going into the hatch? Was the world on the verge of destruction and he went down in the hatch for survival? Hmmm.

If it was "world", you would think it was some sort of bomb shelter
if it was "all", it would probably mean he was hiding from "the sickness", which he talks about....so I am going with "ALL". So that means the question is, what sickness, and if there is one, who has been infected, if anyone?!?!? We are going to have to go back to when Danielle talks about it to gather all clues.

When i started reading this thread I was POSTIVIE it was "world", but now after reading all of this and rewatching that scene - I don't know anymore
:dizzy: :cnfused1:

Seeing as his previous question was:
"So you traveled from Sydney to Los Angeles?"
whether he said 'world' or 'they're all' doesn't matter does it? He had to mean the same thing.

He couldn't have been inquiring about the castaways because
a minute later he then asks "How many of you are out there?"
and "How many of your group have gotten sick"/dead etc.
Why ask "how many have gotten sick"/dead if he just found out that 'they're all' still out there?
(if it WAS "they're all" that was originally said)

I heard "world" but like I said I don't think it matters which he said.

World.

Can we get a sound byte or something? I would like to hear it for myself.

Well, if I were home, I'd rip the audio, but I'm stuck at work.

I heard "world", and didn't think twice about it. It made perfect sense.

He was asking about the flight, and said "So the world's still out there?", and then only LATER asked about the survivors. I have zero trouble understanding his accent. If I mis-heard, it's only because I wasn't sitting close enough to the TV to hear it correctly or something.

His comment was in reference to Sydney and LA, not the survivors. So I agree that whether he said "World" or "they're all", it's the same thing. He was surprised to hear that civilization still existed.

Agreed. He definitely said world.

Watch the show again, and you will be more confused ;-)
Closed Captioning is NEVER wrong on a taped show. they get the script right from the producers. On a live show, yes all the time (like a football game or whatever). Unless they gave them a script with words intentionally changed of course

Also, GET BACK TO WORK PEOPLE. You are costing Billions of $'s in productivity!

Ah, screw it, let's keep talking "LOST" ;-)

This should seal it...

If he said "They All" why would locke say : "As far as I know.?", if they all refers to the survivors , then Locke knows darn well they are all there still out there, he just left them maybe 20 min ago..

but you could make a case for

The World, because as of 44 days ago, the world was still there , but technically it could be gone, and locke wouldnt really know that either.

Damn, I just confused myslef, i guess that doesnt seal it very well at all.

I'm about 99.9% positive he said, "So the world's still out there." and Locke replies, "As far as I know." This makes much more sense in the context of what's happened to the castaways.

Think about it, if Desomond had said, "So they're ALL still out there?" Locke's reply of "As far as I know." doesn't really make sense. Number 1, they're NOT "all still out there". Boone is dead, the Marshall died . . . Sawyer, Michael, Jin & Walt are off on the raft. There are several survivors of the original crash who are, most definitely, not still there. Number 2, Locke's reply of "As far as I know" is vague, but fits w/ someone asking him a question about a world that as far as he knows is still out there. His knowledge of the other castaways is much more concrete and, IMHO, would have elicited a much less vague answer.

Just my 2 cents,
Jen

Watch the show again, and you will be more confused ;-)
Closed Captioning is NEVER wrong on a taped show. they get the script right from the producers. On a live show, yes all the time (like a football game or whatever). Unless they gave them a script with words intentionally changed of course

Also, GET BACK TO WORK PEOPLE. You are costing Billions of $'s in productivity!

Ah, screw it, let's keep talking "LOST" ;-)

Apparently you're new here. Closed Captioning is OFTEN wrong on a taped show. Especially this taped show. You obviously missed the fiasco(s) last season.

I heard world, very clearly. He asks about the flight and says "so the world's still out there." It seemed like a very introspective statement, rather than asking Locke a direct question. Maybe the fact there was a flight from Sidney to LA confused him, like he was expecting more isolation of humanity or something. Lock isn't quite sure what to make of this, and in usual Locke snark says "as far as I know", because things have been weird enough lately, the world could have gone poof in the last 40+ days

I haven't had a chance to listen to it again, but I'm on the side that says "they're all". It makes sense. If Desmond had believed that the world had been destroyed, he would have made his comment when Locke told him they were flying from Sydney to L.A.

If *I* thought the world had ended and someone told me they were on a flight from Australia to the U.S., I would have said something or sought clarification right at that moment... not later. It also makes more sense that he is still getting supplies, and it has to come from SOMEone... if he believed the world had been destroyed, where would he think the stuff comes from?

I think his concerns and questions are confined to the Island.

thought he said, "they're all still out there?" Meaning the other survivors since Desmond thinks they should be sick by now (and possibly dead). I concur. I also thought he said, "...all still out there?" as if he want to verify that if there were indeed survivors of a crashed plane that they were still alive, because they should be dead (for some reason).

I agree that Locke's response fits "world" better. I even had a thought last season, what if they're the last people on Earth? It could also be that Desmond believes he is one of the last people on Earth.

For what it's worth, I'm Irish and lived in Scotland for some time and I never thought he'd said anything other than "world" until I saw this board.

Now, if someone could translate everything the americans say....

I haven't had a chance to listen to it again, but I'm on the side that says "they're all". It makes sense. If Desmond had believed that the world had been destroyed, he would have made his comment when Locke told him they were flying from Sydney to L.A.
But thats exactly when he made his comment.

closed captioning is often wrong.


in fact, wasn't there a lot of debate when closed-captioning said "there were no survivors of oceanic flight 815!" and so the writers of the show had to go on record and say for a fact that "we're the survivors..." was said, and that we had to decide for ourselves if it was an echo or if someone was answering and saying "WE'RE the survivors..."?


i believe so.
Okay, we can all stop debating this once and for all. :biggrin: The man, himself, has spoken. http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=513680&postcount=2

I asked Terry what the line was and he said it in the link above.

I will ALWAYS admit when I'm wrong! "I was wrong." :biggrin:

Now the clue given can be discussed with no further contradiction. :smile:

For what it's worth, I'm Irish and lived in Scotland for some time and I never thought he'd said anything other than "world" until I saw this board.

Now, if someone could translate everything the americans say....

It's been settled it seems but being of Irish heritage and not living in Scotland for some time, I also thought he said "world" :rolleyes:

You don't want us to translate everything we say here. It would only confuse you as much as we confuse ourselves. :hypocrit:

*grin*

Closed Captioning has him saying "They're all still out there?" but I also thought I heard the "world"...either makes sense, in any case he thought nothing was alive or could be alive outside of his hatch - but yet he thought a replacement was coming for him somehow?

I heard it as "they're all still out there?"

I heard it as "they're all still out there?"
Please see my post on the previous page: http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=513700&postcount=49

Terry said that the line was "world."

:biggrin:

Terry is the man

Terry is the man
Isn't he though? :biggrin:

I'm very glad this little mystery has been solved. I have an extremely hard time understanding Desmond - which is very unsual for me - normally accents are no issue for me - especially because in my area of NY there's lots of non-NYers who all have accents (whereas of course NYers like myself don't have any accent at all :) I was fairly positive that he had said World.. but he said it more like. waahld.. (i sorta say whirrrlduh which of course is the non accented way) so it did sound a lot like wall to me since there was no duh at the enduh.

he says World, rewatched it a thousand times and Im scottish and thats how world is said. ya damn yanks :)

Yup, after watching it a few more times, he is definitely asking, if the "world" is still out there, as if he was under the impression (or told) that the rest of the world was gone.

They had to give him an accent, like they don't torture us enough already! :D I thought he said world too, but wall would be more interesting.


The actor is Scottish. It is a very thick accent. (to an American ear)

he says World, rewatched it a thousand times and Im scottish and thats how world is said. ya damn yanks :)

LOL yes.. I'm the first to admit that the way I pronounce many things is totally incomprehensible to many people. So at first when I heard Walld.. I thought .. no he must mean World.. but I did question it as far as my hearing of it went. :dizzy: