Desmond didnt recognise jack, or so it seems,but jack DID recognise desmond and he wasnt happy either he pulled his face and snarled "you" SO what did desmond do to jack ? he healed sarah so we believe, so did desmond take away this little miracle when jack refused to believe "man of science" and is that why jack is no longer married ?

any thoughts on this peeps ?

my feeling was that Jack was just hit with a wave of shock - firstly at seeing another person on the island, and secondly - because he recognised Desmund
Yeh - maybe they had more in common than that fleeting meeting - but maybe that was all it was

could be, but jack has already seen the french woman and he knew someone was there when he saw the gun pointed at lockes head the look seemed to be of disgust. im sure there will be more meetings of jack and desmond via flashback

could be, but jack has already seen the french woman and he knew someone was there when he saw the gun pointed at lockes head the look seemed to be of disgust. im sure there will be more meetings of jack and desmond via flashback

it was a look of confusion that developed into sheer disbelief. (imho)

You think? ooo I kind of like the idea of jack and Desmond having this short meeting, and that's all it was.

It's quite simple if ya ask me. I mean... Jack goes down into this hatch that has been buried on this island that his plane crashed into and when he gets in there he realizes the hatch is the home of the guy he ran into on the outside. I would have been like "You" too. "How the hell did you get down here and who are you?" I dont think it has anything to do with Sarah.

I dont think it has anything to do with Sarah.


I also don't think it has anything to do with Sarah. Jack met Desmond in the stadium when he was running. I don't think Jack knew he was going to be in loe with Sarah then.

Desmond and Jack had to meet later after that first meeting in the stadium. I don't see how Jack would have remembered him after hearing the word "brother", regardless of the situation with Sarah. It was at the absolute least 4 years from the time Jack met Desmond (and Sarah) until Jack ended up on the island. So I think there is way more to the Jack/Desmond backstory.

I also don't think it has anything to do with Sarah. Jack met Desmond in the stadium when he was running. I don't think Jack knew he was going to be in loe with Sarah then.

I agree that Jack and Desmond met only once, in the stadium. However, I think Jack had definitely, definitely already "fallen" for Sarah. Jack is a very emotional person and seeing this pretty, young woman near death, or at least most likely paralyzed for life, brought this aspect of his personality out into the open...he HAD to save her...and his desire to save this charismatic person, in the end, got confused with feelings of love for her, and they ended up getting married. Sometimes, when people become emotionally involved in a dire situation, they don't think clearly and emotions, in general, get confused. He probably felt that marrying her was the next step in healing her.

I don't think Sarah's dead. Don't you thinkhe would have said that to Ana Lucia? The way he said "no, not anymore" was a little too bitter sounding to mean she was dead. I think they divorced.
-Sakre

Desmond and Jack had to meet later after that first meeting in the stadium. I don't see how Jack would have remembered him after hearing the word "brother", regardless of the situation with Sarah. It was at the absolute least 4 years from the time Jack met Desmond (and Sarah) until Jack ended up on the island. So I think there is way more to the Jack/Desmond backstory.

Well, let's see. A weird conversation with a stranger who has a unique speech pattern and accent on what turned out to be one of the most important days of Jack's life? Yeah, I think that would stick in your brain.

I think Desmond has some sort connection to Jack's father. How, I don't know.

I also think Christian must have, unbeknownst to Jack, interceded in the care of Sarah. Urging on Jack to convey a positive medical outlook to Sarah, when the facts spoke otherwise, was more than just about a pleasant bedside manner. It was the medical truth, because of the secret "miracle" procedure or elixir to be dispensed by Christain, maybe along with Desmond.

Sorry, I have no evidence for this. Just pure speculation. One more: Christain is alive. Yeah, may be a stretch. I'll stop now. ; )

I dont think there are more meetings between them, but who is to know with this programme?? I think Jack was just confused and shocked.

As to why he isnt married anymore, maybe Sarah went back to Kevin???

I think its completely plausible that his one conversation with Desmond would stay in his mind forever, and that his reaction upon seeing him in the hatch was solely based on that one conversation. It was an extremely emotional moment when he realized that Sarah was "fixed," because he believed he had failed, and was very distraught over that. If something like that happened to me, I know that the first thing that would pop into MY head would be that strange conversation I had with that guy who asked me about miracles and such. I probably wouldn't imagine it to be some type of huge conspiracy, but just one of those weird coincidences that sticks in your mind and just makes you wonder.

What did seem odd to me, and may ultimately prove that I am completely wrong about Jack and Desmond's pre-hatch relationship, is that after Jack said "you" and he had a pained face, he seemed to then point the gun even more resolutely at Desmond. Is there something that happened pre-hatch that makes him even more wary of the shooter now that he knew it was Desmond? Or was he just totally weirded out by the whole thing?

I vote for weirded out.

I'll go for weirded out also. I've had some significant happenings in my life followed by conversations. I can remember where, when, things said, body language, even what the other person was wearing. Freaks me out sometimes. If it's a life moving or very emotional event I can see Jack remembering that day and the events that took place.

OK - I'm relatively new here, but I've had a thought for awhile now, and I know it's out there, but that's not entirely odd on these boards:smile:

I know Jack is a pretty logical guy, but once I saw Desmond in the hatch I wondered how on earth could that have happened in this huge world? Putting other theories aside about the plane purposely landing on that island (which I do like) . . .

Maybe Jack imagined/visualized/made-up and/or that memory was somehow "placed" or fabricated in his mind. Maybe they never really met at all in the stadium and it was all an illusion? Very real to Jack, but never really happened.

Anyone else had this thought?

Remember how one of the first things Desmond says to Jack in the stadium in regards to why he is putting himself through self flagelation is - "it's about a girl?" and jack says it's a patient, then Desmond smiles and says "a girl patient." I feel like there is something to this conversation. Like Desmond knew Jack was in love with her before Jack knew himself.