View Full Version : Where have all the polar bears gone?
stevew 10-02-2005, 01:58 AM Why did we see them early on the island and none since? There was more than the 1 that was killed wasn't there. I think they disappeared because Walt stopped reading the comic book and he quit thinking about them - so they stopped chasing the Lostaways. I also think this ability of his led to his capture by the Others.
Bond_81 10-02-2005, 02:49 AM I presume, having seen Michael give Walt the polar bear, and not to forget the comic book he was reading that had the polar bear in it, the producers are alluding to the idea that perhaps these things were created one way or another by Walt by way of his 'gift', albeit subconciouselly. I guess, going on this assumption, the polar bear was something somewhat personal to him, and perhaps reading the comic brought it all back to the point where his mind created the physical bear. He seems from all observations to be able to manipulate things around him, including the weather, though im certain it is not intentional. If he does indeed have powers he is probably not in control or perhaps even aware of them himself, though those around him, would perhaps have some suspicion.
The only thing that crossed my mind, and perhaps it is a little simplistic, is if he is capable, knowingly or unknowingly, to create things with his mind, things as complex as a living polar bear, would it not be a stretch to imagine that he *should* also be able to create, for example, i dont know, a giant seaplane capable of carrying 40+ people back to the real world, or a rescue boat, or something along those lines. I mean, if we are to believe (and again, this is going on the assumption that his 'gift' created the polar bear) that the image of the polar bear in the comic stirred such strong feelings in him that a real polar bear did appear, wouldnt he also have a very strong desire to get off the island.. and as such, perhaps create a means by which to accomplish that.... haha, i hope you all follow what im getting at.. perhaps its just me.
Personally, i think if the polar bear was created by Walts 'gift', i think its a little bit of a cop-out. I would have much preffered something more, real-world. But hey, lol, i guess thats why im not the producers or script writers, and just an obsessed fan! :biggrin:
goddessblue 10-02-2005, 02:58 AM Whenever confronted with the polar bear being conjured by Walt issue, I keep going back to the Solitary episode in season 1. When Danielle had Sayid tied up in her lair, they heard the "monster noises" and she left the lair with a big rifle saying, "Hopefully it's just one of the bears." Now, the bears could've been a "new" thing to her (only appearing since the Lostaways did), but it she seems familiar with dealing with them. I find the "Walt's powers conjuring the bear" completely plausible and making sense. This is the only bit of info. that keeps me from thinking Walt truly did do that.
Amber 10-02-2005, 06:51 AM I don't know why I still am thinking that the bear is mechanical. There haven't been any signs pointing towards that direction even. and what DID they do with the bear.. cook it?
wildjinx 10-02-2005, 06:35 PM they went back to "Bear Village"? :3:
Bollocker 10-02-2005, 06:53 PM The only thing that crossed my mind, and perhaps it is a little simplistic, is if he is capable, knowingly or unknowingly, to create things with his mind, things as complex as a living polar bear, would it not be a stretch to imagine that he *should* also be able to create, for example, i dont know, a giant seaplane capable of carrying 40+ people back to the real world, or a rescue boat, or something along those lines. I mean, if we are to believe (and again, this is going on the assumption that his 'gift' created the polar bear) that the image of the polar bear in the comic stirred such strong feelings in him that a real polar bear did appear, wouldnt he also have a very strong desire to get off the island.. and as such, perhaps create a means by which to accomplish that.... haha, i hope you all follow what im getting at.. perhaps its just me.
Like you mentioned, it's subconcious. He doesn't know how special he is. It seems that only Brian and Locke noticed his abilities. So, without honing them, and knowing what triggers his abilities, trying to use them could mean disaster. So far we've seen his abilities harnessed on mediums of neglect, fear, and anger. That's not a healthy equation when creating things with your mind.
Fogey 10-02-2005, 07:40 PM The polar bears are fair sized critters that need a lot of food. The island does not seem to have a concentrated food source such as a salmon run up the creek or seals all over the beach. Maybe they had to spread way out so they could find enough food to survive and are thus few and far between?
Living_for_the_weekend 10-02-2005, 07:47 PM Maybe the polar bears eat some of Desmond's snacks.
porkinz 10-04-2005, 01:43 PM As for Walt conjuring up a plane or boat I don't think that is what the power is. He called a bird to him by seeing it in the schoolbook in "special" I believe it was. And the polar bears by seeing them in the comic, which now evidenced by the recent apperance of the logoed shark were probably a part of some expiriment happening on the island. The polar bears are likely still there just not being "called" by Walt any longer.
carodeluxe 10-04-2005, 01:50 PM Maybe the polar bears eat some of Desmond's snacks.
hahaha just got a great visual image of Desmond feeding polar bears
Colonel Sanders 10-04-2005, 01:51 PM If Walt has the power to summon or create whatever is on his mind...and the Others know this somehow, just imagine the scene that may be taking place. Instead of the Others terrorizing little Walt, they may be begging him to create things for them.
porkinz 10-04-2005, 02:01 PM Yeah like ketchup. Walt come on man this stuff is just bland without ketchup.
stevew 10-04-2005, 04:33 PM If Walt has the power to summon or create whatever is on his mind...and the Others know this somehow, just imagine the scene that may be taking place. Instead of the Others terrorizing little Walt, they may be begging him to create things for them.
If that's the case---then the Others could threaten to kill the survivors if Walt doesn't do what they want.
Colonel Sanders 10-04-2005, 10:17 PM If that's the case---then the Others could threaten to kill the survivors if Walt doesn't do what they want.
That could be possible. I envision Walt not understanding his "potential".....but for some reason the Others are aware of him. I could see the Others telling Walt they'll kill his dad if he doesn't do what they say....but then again it seems they would have took Michael when they kidnapped Walt if that was the case.
This all brings to mind a scene from the "Creepshow" movie. (I think it was Creepshow!!)
Where there is a kid who has the power to create whatever he wants. The kid traps several adults into staying with him for fear that if they didn't stay he would harm them.....
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