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i_love_dmjgmfna
10-05-2005, 11:38 PM
We still didn't find out what happened to Locke! And after watching three of his flashbacks, I still have no idea what could have happened to him. Has anyone gotten any ideas yet?

mandy71
10-05-2005, 11:48 PM
I'm going to take a shot in the dark about this. I think at some point he goes back to his father's house( against Helen's wishes) and maybe gets into it with his father's men and they chase him or he kills his father and his run from the men either one i just said and crashes his car. I could be wrong.

God's tom
10-06-2005, 12:07 AM
I'm thinking his father gets fed up & has him dealt with - causing his paralysis to keep him from coming back.

neoufo51
10-06-2005, 12:15 AM
I'm guessing since this just might be the "electromagetic research" island...(looking at how that "active project" is written differently than other projects)

I'm guessing that the island "restarted" his leg nerve endings due to there being a powerful electromagnet under the islands (the compass acting funny, how do they power the island complex, the monster being mechanical)

Raven
10-06-2005, 12:20 AM
I'm thinking that whatever the event is... it might include Helen. That is... she might get caught up in it and killed.

Remember when Locke was calling the woman saying he had two tickets to go to Australia? (In a flashback) Did he refer to the woman as Helen? My impression was that the woman on the phone was a phone-sex type of person that Locke was essentially paying for a fantasy relationship. If he called her Helen, then maybe he set her up as a substitute for the real Helen. Of course this doesn't mean the real Helen was dead. And maybe I've misremembered what he called her altogether.

notlost, justexploring
10-09-2005, 11:12 PM
what if it was just in his mind? Maybe because of all the negative things in his life, he just had a mental snap and became "paralyzed".

liz_lost_fan
10-09-2005, 11:29 PM
I'm thinking that whatever the event is... it might include Helen. That is... she might get caught up in it and killed.

Remember when Locke was calling the woman saying he had two tickets to go to Australia? (In a flashback) Did he refer to the woman as Helen? My impression was that the woman on the phone was a phone-sex type of person that Locke was essentially paying for a fantasy relationship. If he called her Helen, then maybe he set her up as a substitute for the real Helen. Of course this doesn't mean the real Helen was dead. And maybe I've misremembered what he called her altogether.

I agree with you,I think the real helen dies, and Locke kinda snaps. going into this illusion with the phone lady, I mean, I think its safe to say the Helen on the phone is not the same helen, why would his own girlfriend passivly say "go to a phychiatrist, and Ill have to charge you extra"

Baileysdad
10-09-2005, 11:46 PM
I agree with a lot of the thought here. I believe there is an argument between Locke and Helen as they are driving and she drives the car into the Cooper's gates as Locke has chosen to not stop parking in front of the house...the crash may kill her and paralyze him. The phone sex lady I believe let Locke call her Helen...remember she said she doesn't date customers and would have to charge for another hour if he stayed on the phone.

lostnewfan
10-10-2005, 12:33 PM
I'm guessing since this just might be the "electromagetic research" island...(looking at how that "active project" is written differently than other projects)

I'm guessing that the island "restarted" his leg nerve endings due to there being a powerful electromagnet under the islands (the compass acting funny, how do they power the island complex, the monster being mechanical)

Hi, I'm new to the Fuselage. I like this quote. I don't know how he got paralysed, but I think the island did "restart" his leg nerve. I guess that's why Locke was so sure that he would be okay when he almost got pulled in the hole by the monster and that he was so sure that the monster wouldn't kill him. He definately knows more, and I can't wait to find out:biggrin: I think he's a great and interesting character.

lamerok
10-10-2005, 01:05 PM
The only thing that makes me wonder about Locke's legs is why his use ot them came and went in DEM? If the magnetic force of the island somehow cured his legs, why did it stop for those very few inopportune moments when Boone had to go into the plane?

I don't know that Locke has been healed so much as "allowed to regain the use of his legs". As the island powers giveth, so can they taketh away. How? I have no idea, but it's like someone had a switch and could turn his legs off and on.

I also think that Locke's paralysis comes from something his father did. His father was quite angry with him, downright cruel. This is not a man who would fear stooping to physical violence. I think Locke pushed a dangerous man too far.

As for Helen, I thought I read somewhere that she was not a phone sex operator. Maybe the Helen on the phone was the real Helen and just patronizing Locke until he sprung this whole Australia thing. She could work for some agency that charges for phone calls -- psychic hotlines, technical support, etc. -- and still just put up with Locke because she pities him. Her telling him to see a psychiatrist is not out of line. By that time in their relationship, he has given her more than enough proof that he needs one.

Locke's my favorite character, and I so enjoy seeing his flashbacks. He's someone who has had it so rough it's almost unplausible, and yet he still believes, still has faith. That's an amazing thing, and an amazing message from the writers.

I really love this show.

Lynda

redemption
10-10-2005, 10:18 PM
I am always looking for castaway connections. When Kate was fleeing the hospital at high speed crashing through the police barracade later down the road she rear ended a vehicle....sort of a hit and run scenerio in her attempt to flee. This vehicle had stoped for a stop sign near the hospital. Did she smash into Locke who was leaving the hosptal after a kidney dialysis treatment? I hope someone checks season One and lets me know if Kate did hit a red car. This would be so hard on Locke as just another bitter pill in his life.

i_love_dmjgmfna
10-10-2005, 10:22 PM
Nice catch, Redemption. I never thought about that.

mise-en-scene
10-10-2005, 10:23 PM
You read my mind for the second time, redemption. Kate did smash into another car and I actually wondered back then whether that car was Locke's. Now, it wouldn't have to be Locke's red Bug, but perhaps it was Helen's car. I doubt Kate killed Helen in this crash since she'd know that she was up for vehicular homicide along with whatever else she's done. That's never been mentioned. Still, it's plausible that Locke was in that car and upon the crash lost the use of his legs.

redemption
10-11-2005, 08:49 PM
Thank you dmjgmfna and mise-en-scene for your kind words. Lets keep our eyes peeled in the upcoming episodes for any more further clues O.K.?

I like twinkies 2
10-11-2005, 08:59 PM
redemption wrote:
Did she smash into Locke who was leaving the hosptal after a kidney dialysis treatment?
Locke was not on dialysis. His father was. Even after being conned out of one of his kidneys he still wouldn't need dialysis.

mise-en-scene
10-11-2005, 09:16 PM
redemption wrote:

Locke was not on dialysis. His father was. Even after being conned out of one of his kidneys he still wouldn't need dialysis.
Sure, Locke wasn't on dialysis, but he could have been leaving the hospital after pre-admission testing and such. Thing is, it's feasible that Kate hit his car during her escape.

Soon we'll be given more clues to see if this idea is on track. Oh, the torture of waiting. :)

I like twinkies 2
10-11-2005, 09:42 PM
mise-en-scene wrote:

but he could have been leaving the hospital after pre-admission testing and such

I assume you mean with regard to his donating the kidney. But Locke is still ambulatory a couple of years after being tricked by his father. This is apparent because he says so in the anger management group. He would have had to been present when Kate crashes the car for some other reason.
I think the idea that Kate crippled Locke is a bit of a stretch. At least as theorized in this thread. Sorry if anyone is offended.

mise-en-scene
10-11-2005, 09:54 PM
Oh heck. I'm not putting my timelines together right. Thanks for clearing that up, twinkies. mmmmmmm... twinkies.

Drake
10-11-2005, 11:18 PM
It can only be bad. Locke's past keeps getting worse everytime it seems to get better. I think it was some kind of freak accident.