hi i was fiddling around the oceanic webpage where you have to click all the dots and you get videos and audio clips from the show and i heard a "new to me" audio clip that was very interesting. it was kate speaking to sawyer and she said something to the effect and im paraphrasing here that her dad got real mad and killed her mom and then killed himself. sawyer said something like now we are getting to the good stuff.

i dont remember this from last year. sounds like the connection between sawyer and kate is that the same man killed both sets of parents.

sorry if this has been repeated there is just so much to read

Pheraps Kate and Sawyer are brother and sister. Maybe his mother was pregnant with Kate when this happened. They were able to save Kate and not his mom, although that would make that kiss quite gross. Or the same person helped kill both their parents.

i get the feeling that the same guy killed both sets of parents. the writers have already approached the insest thing with boone and shannon, i dont think they would repeat themselves.

What about Kate's mom in the hospital? The flashback when the woman said Katie and then freaked out, that is when Kate ran out of the hospital.

Kate didn't call her mom, mom though. I don't think it was her biological mother, she actually called her by her name. When I want to think of her name I can't but ya know. I think it was her foster mother or something like that.

Kate didn't call her mom, mom though. I don't think it was her biological mother, she actually called her by her name. When I want to think of her name I can't but ya know. I think it was her foster mother or something like that.

She only doesn't call her mom when she is talking to Tom. When she sees her in the hallway, there, she calls her mom.

I used to work for social services as a computer guy, but in talking to some of the social workers, most of the time kids in foster homes don't refer to the people they're staying with as "mom" or "dad". Adoption, perhaps...?

I think Locke's father is the one who killed Sawyers parents. He said something about being conned last night to Locke (In his flashback)

I think Locke's father is the one who killed Sawyers parents. He said something about being conned last night to Locke (In his flashback)

I've been kinda veering toward Locke's father being the real Sawyer after last night's ep.

I could be completely wrong of course. :smile:

i thought the same thing; Coooper being the real Sawyer

Which website was that clip on?

Pheraps Kate and Sawyer are brother and sister. Maybe his mother was pregnant with Kate when this happened. They were able to save Kate and not his mom, although that would make that kiss quite gross. Or the same person helped kill both their parents.


But wouldn't it connect so nicely with the Boone/Shannon ordeal?

found it, its from the scene where Kate is reading Sawyers letter. She's talking about his parents.

found it, its from the scene where Kate is reading Sawyers letter. She's talking about his parents.

Yep! She was reading "his letter" to the "real" Sawyer.

Okay so maybe none of the above ha ha. I've read on several threads on the board where people think cooper is actually the real "Sawyer." I happen to agree.

I was under the impression that Sawyer's parents death was a murder-suicide

Pheraps Kate and Sawyer are brother and sister. Maybe his mother was pregnant with Kate when this happened. They were able to save Kate and not his mom, although that would make that kiss quite gross. Or the same person helped kill both their parents.

All the greatest stories have got some incest in 'em! and yeah that kiss would be pretty gross... especially since it looked like they both enjoyed it so much. ugh.

Keep in mind Boone and Shannon are step siblings..no blood relation.

Cooper is Sawyer ( best guess..no real info)

Sawyer's dad killed mom...killed self...because of the con...GOD what a confrentation between Sawyer and Locke if that if found out.

i found the original audio clip of kate talking to sawyer on oceanicflight815.com

i definately get the feeling that lockes dad is the original conman who cause the murder suicide of sawyers parents.

i was also thinking about kates mom issue. maybe kate had a step mom?

I went looking for this on the 815 site with all the dots and I found Dark Territory (which is new). At the end, you see the deleted scene where Charlie is, once again, trying to pick up chicks on the island by trying to fit DriveShaft into the conversation. This time it was Shannon. HILARIOUS!

Brother and sister kissing each other before they knew they where brother and sister is so Star Wars hehehe

But Kate and Sawyer are suppose to hook up this season. Don't think the writers would have them turn out as brother and sister......

Brother and sister kissing each other before they knew they where brother and sister is so Star Wars hehehe

i really dont think that kate and sawyer are brother and sister. i remember reading somewhere that all the survivors are connected somehow. remember last year when sawyer met jacks dad at the bar? i think the connection between kate and sawyer is that the same man was responsible for both sets of parents deaths. i think that man is lockes father. didnt lockes father say something to locke in the last epi about being a con man?

plus if i remember correctly sawyer and kate did more than kiss they had sex that same night they were doing the drinking game. i remember sawyer saying to jack that he, sawyer got kate to have sex with him. now he could have been bullsh**ing jack to piss him off but sawyer doesnt seem the type to do that.

I don't think Locke's dad killed Kate's parents (I still believe that that one clip is of Kate reading the letter). But I do think Locke's dad killed James's parents.

plus if i remember correctly sawyer and Kate did more than kiss they had sex that same night they were doing the drinking game. i remember sawyer saying to jack that he, sawyer got Kate to have sex with him. now he could have been bullsh**ing jack to piss him off but sawyer doesnt seem the type to do that.

We have NOT seen or otherwise been told that Sawyer and Kate had sex that night (unfortunately ;) ), and I don´t think Sawyer told Jack that either.

As far as we KNOW, they kissed, they found the waterfall together and they played their drinking game. Nothing more (again, unfortunately :biggrin: ).

plus if i remember correctly sawyer and kate did more than kiss they had sex that same night they were doing the drinking game. i remember sawyer saying to jack that he, sawyer got kate to have sex with him. now he could have been bullsh**ing jack to piss him off but sawyer doesnt seem the type to do that.

Kate & Sawyer only kissed once while he was tied to the tree being tortured... Sawyer told Jack (after they were out in the woods looking for the boar and played I Never) that Kate "didn't give him anything she wasn't willing to part with"... I took this as information... I don't recall anywhere where it said they had sex or close to it...

Ah, yea....like I wouldn't want to part with something with.... :biggrin:

hey,
i really don't think, that sawyer and kate hook up. it's more plausible that jack and kate become a couple. and with ana lucia new on the cast ... maybe it will happen faster than expected. but i don't want speculate any further ;)
about sawyer and kate beeing brother and sister + incest bla bla - that would be disastrous!
and besides, it's just to simple ;P

Pheraps Kate and Sawyer are brother and sister. Maybe his mother was pregnant with Kate when this happened. They were able to save Kate and not his mom, although that would make that kiss quite gross. Or the same person helped kill both their parents.

ICK! No way! This is too 'Young and the Restless' for me.

i agree with the locke's father idea

What was Kate's mom doin in the hospital anyway


And whe n every1 is connected i can tell y. Jin saw hurley on tv hurley met locke maybe.. sawyer met jack's dad, naybe jack worked on kate's mom, Jack met the one lady survivor who works with man dingo(the big black guy or what ever he is) Maybe Lockes dad is the con man from sawyers past it is sooo cool how they are connected.... and omg i feel so bad for rose or whatever her name is... the one who knows her hubby is still kickin in a blow up bunker and the button doesnt need 2 be pressed.. if u watched the orientation vid it said that the hanso corp said that they studied pshyciatric stuff. and in the blow out bunker there was a pc of the swan from the hanso logo.l...... ty..... HAVE A CLUCKITY CLUCK CLUCK CLUCK DAY phew :)

Just out of curiosity, what are some clues that Locke's father was a con (besides stealing a kidney, which was pretty low)? When did he get divorced from Locke's mom?

This would be an interesting twist...

Pheraps Kate and Sawyer are brother and sister. Maybe his mother was pregnant with Kate when this happened. They were able to save Kate and not his mom, although that would make that kiss quite gross. Or the same person helped kill both their parents.

Noooo, not another Luke Skywalker/Princess Leia moment. :)

Just out of curiosity, what are some clues that Locke's father was a con (besides stealing a kidney, which was pretty low)? When did he get divorced from Locke's mom?

This would be an interesting twist...

in the episode before last when locke was still sitting outside his "dads" house in his vw bug, his dad got into the car and told locke that he needed his kidney plane and simple and that he as a con man.

That's interesting , but I don't think Kate and sawyer are brother and sister. One is the mom was pregnat with Kate when the dad killed the mother Kate would be dead too.....

Not if they were able to save the baby ha ha, however, I really don't think that's the case, I was just being funny. ha ha besides this was just Kate reading sawyer's letter so I don't think this happened to her ha ha.

Okay.... not to get too off topic, but did anyone see the oceanic ticket stub at that website...when you connect the dots for the bunker??? I won't say what it said, since I'm new and still trying to figure out how to use the spoiler tags. Anywho, There is something very interesting on that stub and I'm not sure if this site is for real or just fan junk.

Kate and Sawyer as siblings? You're breaking my SKater fangirl heart!

Oh and could someone explain to me in baby words, the dotted line thing? I'm so confuzzled.