View Full Version : Locke's father = Alvar Hanso?
Todell 10-06-2005, 12:51 PM http://www.thehansofoundation.org/
About Alvar Hanso (http://www.thehansofoundation.org/alvarhanso.html):
Driven by a need for privacy and a deep-seated sense of humility, Alvar Hanso has released few details of his personal life to the public.
He first made his mark during the Second World War, providing munitions to various resistance movements around Europe. After the War, Hanso became the leading purveyor of high-technology armaments to NATO.
After decades of keeping the world safe through the development of sophisticated weapons systems, Hanso turned his attention to critical areas of science and technology - always searching for new ways to improve the human experience, and create a brighter future for all humanity.
Still running his vast network of companies, Hanso has set new standards for philanthropy and the support of pure scientific research for the betterment of the entire race.
Would help to explain where Cooper's money came from...and Cooper's line about everyone getting conned. It could be that the entire foundation and experimentation is being used for some nefarious purpose, unbeknownst to the researchers themselves.
belshep 10-06-2005, 01:04 PM I like the idea that Cooper is somehow involved with this. But I think Cooper is too young to actually be Alvar Hanso, who must have been an adult during WW2.
Todell 10-06-2005, 01:58 PM But I think Cooper is too young to actually be Alvar Hanso, who must have been an adult during WW2.
Maybe, but we don't really know how old Cooper is. When did Locke's flashbacks happen? Last year? Four years ago? Eight years ago? We still don't know. And if Hanso was in his 20s during World War II, that would put him at 80 or so now, right? Also, note one of the projects (http://www.thehansofoundation.org/activeproject.html) Hanso is working on:
The Hanso Life-Extension Project
The Hanso Foundation Electromagnetic Research Initiative
The Hanso Quest for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence
The Hanso Mathematical Forecasting Initiative
The Hanso Cryogenics Development Imperative
The Hanso Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute
The Hanso Accelerated Remote Viewing Training Facility
If they had been working on these projects since 1970, couldn't Hanso have seen some of the benefits by now?
cmcdtv 10-06-2005, 02:11 PM Would help to explain where Cooper's money came from...and Cooper's line about everyone getting conned.
Hey sis, what if Cooper, who has so many people working for him, is working for Hanso, playing Locke's dad? We don't see his father after the surgery so we've seen no scar, there is no real proof (other than the dialysis machine which could have been a prop) that Anthony used the kidney. He could have had it harvested for Alvar who he was working for. Also this idea incorporates the idea of the immaculate conception of Emily Locke, maybe she was a test subject for one of Alvar's experiments?
eta: keep wanting to add an 'O' to Alvar's name in honor of my Spanish teacher from high school. sorry.
Todell 10-06-2005, 02:18 PM The Hanso Juxtapositional Eugenics Development Institute
The Emily Locke conncection?
I was going to make the same comments on the kidney issue, but you beat me to it!
belshep 10-06-2005, 02:22 PM You're right Todell...that life extension project could relate to Cooper being older than he looks!
My impression was that Locke's kidney incident was after 1995 because the detective shows him his mother's hospital records and the latest release date was, I believe, 1995. That being the case, Cooper would have been roughly 70 and he didn't look it. But his 'projects' could account for that, so I'll keep an open mind about Cooper being Hanso.
ChiefTanLost 10-06-2005, 02:23 PM I like the idea that Cooper is somehow involved with this. But I think Cooper is too young to actually be Alvar Hanso, who must have been an adult during WW2.
Cooper is not Locke's father.
cmcdtv 10-06-2005, 02:29 PM The Emily Locke conncection?
I was going to make the same comments on the kidney issue, but you beat me to it!
we could also connect the idea of Cooper being a 'surrogate' to other theories out there that cooper=sawyer . If he is being paid to 'play' Locke's dad...
bigmouth 10-06-2005, 04:50 PM todell: Very, very interesting speculation. Like Chief Tan, I'm skeptical that Cooper is Locke's real father. And it would be just like a high-ranking member of the illuminati to name their child after John Locke, father of the enlightenment.
I'll be curious to see if Hanso has any contacts with Ontario, Canada, as that is apparently where Locke was put up for adoption.
ChiefTanLost 10-06-2005, 05:08 PM I'll be curious to see if Hanso has any contacts with Ontario, Canada, as that is apparently where Locke was put up for adoption.
Where did you get that info?
bigmouth 10-06-2005, 05:21 PM ChiefTan: I got it on the Channel 4 website (apologies if anyone was spoiled). Basically, if you explore Locke's computer, you can view a copy of his adoption certificate. It references a law and agency that google reveals are from Ontario, Canada. Very interesting, and worth checking out. Most of the signatures (including that of the purported "witness") are seemingly in the same script.
czardingus 10-06-2005, 05:25 PM For some strange reason I think Hanso looks like the cigarette smoking man from X-files.
ChiefTanLost 10-06-2005, 05:59 PM ChiefTan: I got it on the Channel 4 website (apologies if anyone was spoiled). Basically, if you explore Locke's computer, you can view a copy of his adoption certificate. It references a law and agency that google reveals are from Ontario, Canada. Very interesting, and worth checking out. Most of the signatures (including that of the purported "witness") are seemingly in the same script.
Are you certain it isn't Ontario, California?
Living_for_the_weekend 10-06-2005, 06:54 PM Ontario,Cali would fit in well with Locke's later residence area (SoCal)
bigmouth 10-06-2005, 07:42 PM Nope, it's definitely Ontario, Canada. Funny, though, how Ontario keeps popping up. Didn't Ethan say he was from there, as well?
PS: The name of the law is the "Child and Family Services Act (http://192.75.156.68/DBLaws/Statutes/English/90c11_e.htm)."
NorthCentralPositronics 01-06-2006, 09:23 PM I don't think Cooper is really Hanso, but I think he may be the 'real' Sawyer, given that
A character named Frank (?) Sawyer is apparently supposed to appear in Locke's next flashback episode.
That having been said.... I think the slight resemblance between Cooper and the barely glimpsed man in the orientation video was intentional on the part of the creators. They just love f***ing with us, after all! :-D
Todell 01-06-2006, 10:04 PM Wow! Another thread I'd forgotten I had started. Anyway, let me just update by saying I'm not sure that Hanso is actually Locke's father in the strictest biological sense, but I'm not ready to totally dismiss the idea either...
But, perhaps Hanso is the father of all of the Losties, in a way.
See the Transhumanism thread. Goooood readin'.
NorthCentralPositronics 01-07-2006, 03:36 PM Just think about it.... 'Cooper' has six letters.... he's suspected of being connected to at least two characters (Locke and Sawyer).... six minus two equals 4, six PLUS two equals eight.... coincidence?
LOL.... that was hateful of me, I know.... I'll behave from now on....
Todell 01-07-2006, 03:56 PM Just think about it.... 'Cooper' has six letters.... he's suspected of being connected to at least two characters (Locke and Sawyer).... six minus two equals 4, six PLUS two equals eight.... coincidence?
LOL.... that was hateful of me, I know.... I'll behave from now on....
NorthCentral--don't mistake coincidence for fate...
ArZt onYoUu 01-07-2006, 05:08 PM You're right Todell...that life extension project could relate to Cooper being older than he looks!
My impression was that Locke's kidney incident was after 1995 because the detective shows him his mother's hospital records and the latest release date was, I believe, 1995. That being the case, Cooper would have been roughly 70 and he didn't look it. But his 'projects' could account for that, so I'll keep an open mind about Cooper being Hanso.
My thoughts exactly
NorthCentralPositronics 01-07-2006, 11:46 PM Todell-- DON'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN'T DO!!!!!!
dylan_1200 01-08-2006, 12:31 AM Love how threads can be ressurected. I think you were on the right track Todell only forget Cooper....I think your title says it all....Alvar Hanso is John Lockes real father!!
Look at Desmonds response to Locke when they first meet....he doesnt think hes just some replacement....he believes (probably from more cut-out footage) that Locke is Alvar because of the similarities. If he thought Locke was just a replacement, why didnt he think Kate was one too? Theres more to that scene than just a replacement question. Locke is special...hes the lost son of Alvar Hanso. That would be awesome and explain a lot. What intrigues me is where are his loyalties going to lie when he finds out. Imagine...hes already been done over once by a father figure....and his real one may turn out to be evil as all hell.
nicksterbristol 01-08-2006, 11:12 AM Apologies if anyone has already brought this up, but as you can tell I am relatively new, and rarely post....
Lockes operation. Has it struck anyone that to have an operation around the kidney area, is incredibly close to the lower back. I mean, rather than take something out of Locke, maybe something was actually put in. The kidney operation could easily have been some sort of cover for some (nanobot- sorry!!) technology that can affect Lockes mobility. If Dharma/ Hanso/ et al wanted to increase Lockes drive, ambition and motivation then taking away his ability to walk would do just the job. The man cannot walk, yet wanted to go "walkabout" on an adventure holiday. Now that some sort of device has potentially been planted it would provide the most scientific explanation for the Island taking, and giving back Lockes freedom. I say scientific whilst talking about implanting a device that I am not 100% sure exists!!!
As i say, am new so do not know how to put down threads as quotes, but was part of an interesting thread re: Mr Paik and watching the island on general theories. I brought up the possibility of Alvar Hanso having offspring on the island then. Poss worth checking out.
TabbyRasa 01-08-2006, 01:02 PM As i say, am new so do not know how to put down threads as quotes, but was part of an interesting thread re: Mr Paik and watching the island on general theories. I brought up the possibility of Alvar Hanso having offspring on the island then. Poss worth checking out.
Welcome to the 'Lage!!!:)
This is the thread you referred to: Mr. Paik's screens: Island, Eye of the Island? (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=29736&highlight=Mr.+Paik)
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