I have tried sifting through all the messages and searching for this answer to no avail. Hopefully someone out there maybe picked up on this in one of the flashbacks, or have seen it written somewhere.:hypocrit:

What date and time did flight 815 depart sydney? or what was the destination time, date etc for LA.?

What was the time and date of the plane crash?

What gate number did Hurley try to get on the plane at?

Did anyone pick up on these details, just curious with the numbers and all now that season II is underway and if there is anything missed on these facts maybe of coincidence or interest??

Diamondone :7:

date 9/22/? (we don't know the year, posts range widely from 2001 to 2008)
time: depart sydney 14:55 (i don't know what gate--someone else might)
flight time: 13 hr., 52 mins.

Pilot: “Six hours in, our radio went out. No one could see us. We turned around to head back to Fiji. By the time we hit turbulence, we were a thousand miles off course. They’re looking for us in the wrong place.”

I know that in the flashback of Hurley's rush to catch his plane it clearly showed the gate he was trying to get on, but for the life of me I can't remember it!

I know someone here will refresh our memories though.

SQT

Hurley was boarding from gate 23.......

Rather significant, don´t you think ;)

Hurley was boarding from gate 23.......

Rather significant, don´t you think ;)

Yes, I do. :biggrin:

date 9/22/? (we don't know the year, posts range widely from 2001 to 2008)
time: depart sydney 14:55 (i don't know what gate--someone else might)
flight time: 13 hr., 52 mins.

Thanks
i also found some info on http://www.oceanic-airlines.com/ and yes it was gate 23
just thought that maybe there may have been some clues linking back to the numbers from the actual flight details.
but the gate number is close enough. :)

Diamondone:hypocrit:

I was thinking. If the plane left Sydney at 14:55, 6 hours later it's 20:55, + 2 hours or 3 or so for being in a different time zone. The plane should have been shown crashing at night! But Ana-Lucia says in 2x7 that the flight took two hours, in that case the crash would have been around 17:00 hours (+1 hour maximum), that would be ok, because in the Pilot Part I sunset begins right after Kate has sawn Jack's wound.

For the 6 hours flight (the pilot said so) to be correct, and crash occuring at day-light, the plane should have left around 12 at least, and that is hard to fit, because I know we saw Jin and Sun in the airport at 11:15. Actually the pilot said they flew 6 hours and then back towards Fiji, and Cindy in 2x7 said, this flight back was for about two hours, so if both are taken into account, the plane flew 8 hours before the crash and so the crash should have been in the night, I believe.

Editing my post: I just saw there is another thread discussing this. In General Theories: Time of the Crash.

I was thinking. If the plane left Sydney at 14:55, 6 hours later it's 20:55, + 2 hours or 3 or so for being in a different time zone. The plane should have been shown crashing at night! But Ana-Lucia says in 2x7 that the flight took two hours, in that case the crash would have been around 17:00 hours (+1 hour maximum), that would be ok, because in the Pilot Part I sunset begins right after Kate has sawn Jack's wound.

For the 6 hours flight (the pilot said so) to be correct, and crash occuring at day-light, the plane should have left around 12 at least, and that is hard to fit, because I know we saw Jin and Sun in the airport at 11:15. Actually the pilot said they flew 6 hours and then back towards Fiji, and Cindy in 2x7 said, this flight back was for about two hours, so if both are taken into account, the plane flew 8 hours before the crash and so the crash should have been in the night, I believe.

Editing my post: I just saw there is another thread discussing this. In General Theories: Time of the Crash.
Welcome aboard!
Don't be discouraged by the fact that someone else thought about it before, keep digging in!
BTW, no one came up with a proper answer, not even the creative team, the debate remains, flop or intentional.

Thank you for your nice post. I found somebody else wondering about it in a thread about "Collision".

I was thinking. If the plane left Sydney at 14:55, 6 hours later it's 20:55, + 2 hours or 3 or so for being in a different time zone. The plane should have been shown crashing at night! But Ana-Lucia says in 2x7 that the flight took two hours, in that case the crash would have been around 17:00 hours (+1 hour maximum), that would be ok, because in the Pilot Part I sunset begins right after Kate has sawn Jack's wound.

For the 6 hours flight (the pilot said so) to be correct, and crash occuring at day-light, the plane should have left around 12 at least, and that is hard to fit, because I know we saw Jin and Sun in the airport at 11:15. Actually the pilot said they flew 6 hours and then back towards Fiji, and Cindy in 2x7 said, this flight back was for about two hours, so if both are taken into account, the plane flew 8 hours before the crash and so the crash should have been in the night, I believe.

Editing my post: I just saw there is another thread discussing this. In General Theories: Time of the Crash.

good thoughts and analysis, :rolleyes:
You also have to remember it was also probably during day light saving time so it gets dark later, light up til around 8.45 then dusk then dark, also travelling from sydney to LA the flight path takes them north of fiji, so for them to change course means that they would *be travelling with regular time placement to that area* up til the international dateline *IDL*, then you loose a day. Then they however had altered and travelled south to fly to Fiji area

So I did a little research - Sydney is 11 hours ahead of the IDL time zone area which includes FIJI, New Zealand and such but on the same side as Australia so same day still. So flight leaves at 14.55 *2.55pm* flies for approximately 6 hours making it about 9pm sydney time same day equal to 8am fiji zone same day, add a further approx two hours going south to Fiji in that time zone, makes it about 10am same day for Fiji zone. So that gives the accident at 10 am ish in the morning in full broad day light and all day to experience what the lostaways did that day...
This was all researched based on time zones and comparisoms to ideal times in relevant places at the same plot of time. i.e sydney 9/22 3pm = Fiji /New Zealand 9/22 1am inclusive of Daylight savings time observances according to each country....

Hth

Diamondone :biggrin:
P.S
What i don't get is why they diverted to Fiji anyhow, also someone in some theories also mentioned that commercial flight regulation in the event of loosing communication is to stay on the same flight path and not deter from it, so that Air Traffic control continues to monitor your flight progress even though they can't hear you... :hypocrit:

edited sorry i made an error i had to erase as it was confusing lol my bad

Thank you for your nice post. I found somebody else wondering about it in a thread about "Collision".
thanks i started this thread a while ago when there wasn't anything on the fuselage about the details, i guess now people are starting the think about it more themselves, and with so much out there it's hard to find answers to questions easily hence we double up on threads, i'll go look and see if i can find it

cheers
Diamondone :biggrin:

Diamondone, thank you very much for your replies to my posts and for taking the trouble to check out my data. It’s very nice to find somebody who wants to discuss about this.

But let me tell you, you probably got some wrong data along the way, because it’s just impossible that there is a difference of 11 hours between Sydney and Fiji, that happens between two places that are at opposite ends of the Earth! I understand (I don’t find my notes around at this moment) that Sydney might be around UCT+10, that is 10 hours ahead of Greenwich (England), Fiji can only be one or two hours ahead of that. Anyway for the passengers of Flight 815 the day ist consistently getting faster into the evening as for the people staying in Sydney, except for the time they fly back, when it just gets later as usual. The IDL doesn’t make any difference in time, only in Date, for instance it is 9 pm on 22/9 (Sydney Date) and suddenly it becomes 9 pm on 21/9 (LA Date). You also mention Daylight Savings Time (DST). I’m not sure if Australia does this, but anyway we are talking about one of the days in the year when the daytime equals nighttime, and the closer you get to the Equator the less the daytime vs. nighttime changes throughout the whole year (it’s like from 7 to 7 the whole year around, or 8 to 8 if they care about DST). So I would say it’s hard to think we have daylight later than 9pm. I know I’m not being precise here, because I don’t have so much time, and perhaps I don’t make myself so clear in English that is not my first language, but I’m pretty sure that, if the plane took off at 2.55pm, six hours (pilot) + 2 hours (Cindy) later + 1 hour (or 2 hours, time zone effect), it should be about 23.55pm at crash time. We all have seen however in “The other 48 Days” that the crash was clearly shown in plain daylight.

I think this might be just a mistake, but it wasn't so hard for the writers to have chosen an earlier time for the flight, so that the crash would be at daylight. And also it would have been easier to explain that Hurley found it hard to wake up on time for the flight.

I saw your post talking about the same thing in this other thread
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=13846
where I think the original poster has a similar position to mine, and perhaps it would have been better to keep the discussion there, but i'm new here and I found it easier to answer to you in this thread.

Thank you again,
Aaronia

(Edited to make a few corrections)

[quote=Aaronia;632849]Diamondone, thank you very much for your replies to my posts and for taking the trouble to check out my data. It’s very nice to find somebody who wants to discuss about this.

But I must tell you, you probably got some wrong data along the way, because it’s just impossible that there is a difference of 11 hours between Sydney and Fiji, that happens between two places that are at opposite ends of the Earth! I understand (I don’t find my notes around at this moment) that Sydney might be around GMT+11, that is 11 hours ahead of Greenwich (England), Fiji can only be one or two hours ahead of that.



actually i came up with 10 hours *11 was a typo* :biggrin: i used a website that in an interactive international world time clock to tell me the times in different parts of the world, where you enter the time at one place and it gives you the precise time ad date at the other location....
This is what it gave me? i realise that is wrong now thanks...

What's weird though is just now as i was thinking how can they be behind australia in time, when they are the first country over the date line to begin the clock and day, they should be ahead of us not behind...
Anyways i went back and tried to duplicate what i got the first time around, and low and behold it came back completely different....

weird....
so yes my data is all messed up, i am wrong
3pm 9/22 Sydney Australia = Fiji 5pm 9/22
And the two different versions of how long they had acutually been flying is weird too... pilot said 6 hours into flight lost radio, turned flew a further 2 hours according to cindy, so the time should be around 12am complete darkness...

Even if ana lucia's right 2 hours flying tops would put the crash at about 7pm, on daylight saving it would still be light, but only for just over an hour, then it would be sunset...still too short of a time i would think.
So i'm not sure what to make of it?
i think it is something we aren't supposed to be fixating on somehow hehehe

thanks for picking up on that mistake... i was a bit perplexed at how fiji on australias east side of the IDL could be behind that far in time... that's because they aren't and they are really 2 hours ahead afterall...

Diamondone :biggrin:

[quote=Aaronia;632849]
I think this might be just a mistake, but it wasn't so hard for the writers to have chosen an earlier time for the flight, so that the crash would be at daylight. And also it would have been easier to explain that Hurley found it hard to wake up on time for the flight.
Thank you again,
Aaronia


hmmm that's a another point, :undecide: Hurley was asleep and waking up after the alarm failed.... was that morning, or was he jetlagged still and still used to the USA time... don't know do we? hotel check out time in Australia is usually 10 or 11amish.
It kind of leads with the story telling us he overslept i.e it's morning and he's rushing to get to his flight... so it doesn't make sense that the flight time is leaving syd at 14.55pm??

i think maybe that somewhere along the way the oceanic.com site might be incorrect..:drowsy: . and they had a late morning flight closer to midday?
Diamondone :biggrin:

Hi, I realize now I was editing my last post just as you were replying to it, so that might have been confusing. Sorry about that. I just found my notes about time zones and wanted to correct errors as well as the redaction.

And yeah, I really prefer to think that the 2.55pm is wrong as the departure time, but who knows?
Aaronia