IMO the "others" as they keep getting referred to are not the "others" but are captives of the real others that we didn't see. Who says the "others" are even human? There is a black smoke that can grab you and a huge polar bear as well...

Watching the show I didn't even consider the legs we saw as the others, but of the "others" prisioners ... humans leave tracks, bare foot or not. I say they were being guided by the real "others" that we haven't seen yet .... hence y they have never described the "others" yet.

I keep going back to what was said about "the others" not leaving footprints. What if "the others" are the black wisps/the thing that pulled Locked down the hole. I agree, I don't think that what we saw last night was "the others".

Remember it was Danielle who coined the term "The Others." and it was also her that said the monster was the Island's security system. That would mean there are mulitple things, people, animals, ghosts ect. that could be the "Others."

Anyone know who writes the episode reviews (http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/episodes/205.html) on the ABC website? It says: Eko and Jin hide behind some bushes as the Others march by silently in a line - the last a child, dragging a teddy bear.

There are so many sets of "others" on the island that it's getting pretty confusing. There's Danielle and Ethan, the pirate's who took Walt, the tail-end survivors, those bare-footed people. Maybe they should come up with a less generic name for all these people?

I almost got the impression that the people walking by were teens/kids. Maybe the leftover remnants from some experiment by the others. Maybe now they're trying to stalk around without being traced to avoid being found by the others.

Anyone know who writes the episode reviews (http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/episodes/205.html) on the ABC website? It says:

I'm assuming that's what we were meant to think we saw but I'm not totally convinced that the last person we saw, the one with the teddy bear was a child.

I think they're some Others, but not THE Others. If there are various "sectors" on the island, these folks might be from a particular sector but not from the same group that took Walt. They may be an experiment of some kind.

I don't think the tailenders consider the others to be the black whisp or some creature because I believe Libby said they had trust issues in explaining why the put the rafters in the pit. That leads me to believe that at one point an other posed as a friend and turned on them I know they were new to the island, but I doubt the tailenders would have welcomed a black whisp or creature to join them for tea and crumpets!

Danielle, and Desmond, and the tail people, are OTHER PEOPLE, but they are not the OTHERS.

I think the pirates, and the people we saw last night were the others...along with Ethan.

I think the pirates, and the people we saw last night were the others...along with Ethan.Except Ethan left tracks, and was easily found by Locke/Jack. Interestingly, Locke specifically said last week in the "skeptics chat" with Charlie that Desmond didn't leave tracks.

oh yea, I remember that.

but did he say he didn't leave tracks, or he didn't leave a trail?? those are different.

but, if Desmond is in fact one of hte others, and Ethan isn't, than who is Ethan?? and what did he want with Claire??

Remember it was Danielle who coined the term "The Others."

Also Danielle said she has never seen the Others, only heard them whispering. Seems pretty strange that she has been here for 16 years without seeing the Others....:rolleyes:

my thoughts are that the "Others" were people once. Maybe they are the ones that are "Sick" Desmond takes that injection everyday so he doesn't get sick. I think that Danielle's team started to get sick and she killed them before they can become like the "Others". They are probably the walking dead from getting sick.

Danielle, and Desmond, and the tail people, are OTHER PEOPLE, but they are not the OTHERS.

I think the pirates, and the people we saw last night were the others...along with Ethan.

...and what about Jack's dad? Where do you think he fits in? Other? Hallucination (as no one else appears to have seen him--even those near Jack when HE did)????

i think that beagle1962 may have stumbled on something about Jack's dad... Where was the body? when Jack found the casket there was no body. I'm convinced that the other's are dead people.

Jack's dad, Boone, the marshal...

the convo re: Desmond

Charlie: where did he go?

John: I don't know. I tried to track him, but he didn't leave much of a trail.


that's how I remember it...

Ethan left footprints because he was dragging Claire and Charlie along. He could still be one of the 'others'.

The one with the teddy Bear was Danielle's kid that was stolen, I would almost guarantee.

Maybe we'll get lucky and there will be a flashback scene this season of claire when she was taken away, I'm sure that would answer alot.

Danielle, and Desmond, and the tail people, are OTHER PEOPLE, but they are not the OTHERS.

I think the pirates, and the people we saw last night were the others...along with Ethan.

I believe that it was Javi who already confirmed that the pirates were The Others. In fact, he was VERY specific about it-- they weren't some sub-group of The Others, they weren't some special "seafaring" Others... They. Were. The. Others.

So we know for sure that the "pirates" are The Others. Whether there's more of them back on land, or whether the people we saw last night were more of The Others, we don't know.

I just think there alot more people on this island than we think there are.

This, that, and the Others...where is all this going.

I think they're some Others, but not THE Others. If there are various "sectors" on the island, these folks might be from a particular sector but not from the same group that took Walt. They may be an experiment of some kind.

Thank you Madge!! I thought the same thing, the 'youthful lookin legs' on the Others that passes by...well, I just don't see it, they just can't be THE OTHERS.

The big, bad people that torture and kill?

The teddy bear was a nice touch, there has been a lot of conversation about it already!!

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The big, bad people that torture and kill?



Than why does Mr. Eko hide from them? Are you forgeting the impaled body they found earlier in the episode?

They may very well be dangerous, but that doesn't mean they come from the group that took Walt. The boatpeople weren't that dirty and were fully dressed. This group was filthy and what clothes we saw looked a bit ratty. And yeah, thinking about it now the legs we saw did look rather young. If it had been an old man we would have seen some hairy, veiny legs I would think. I suspect this is an entirely different group.

Except Ethan left tracks, and was easily found by Locke/Jack. Interestingly, Locke specifically said last week in the "skeptics chat" with Charlie that Desmond didn't leave tracks.

Who's to say that Ethan didnt want to leave tracks? Nobody has come right out and said that Ethan was a other. But on the other hand different ABC websites (oceanicflight815.com) had the little ETHAN ROM = OTHER MAN thing.

The others on the boat were intelligent and highly trained, almost like seasoned pirates or mercenaries.

The others in the jungle seemed more like predators then pirates. But also Mr. Ekos said that if they didnt want to be found, they wouldnt be. That shows intelligence (animal or above) that they can make a decision to be found or not.

In Exodus, it seems to me as if the Others' boat arose out of nowhere, from below. I know, they didn't seem wet, but the boat appeared suddenly.

Maybe the Others have the abilty to go 'below' whenever they want to.

i think it's possible that the people walking through the jungle were " the others" to the tail sectioners, considering eko's reaction and decision to hide from them. at the same time, the boat people are "the others" (possibly, but not necessarily, ethan, because his potential for being from the hatch and just being a "sick" person) to the losties because of their attack and abduction of walt. i think the term " the others" is specific to whoever is involved with them considering the two groups. each group is afraid of their "others" but whether they are all one group i don't think we have enough info yet.

Ther are possibly 6 stations on the island performing or were performing experiments. They would need lots of people for these experiments. I think that's who we saw. They could very well be "sick" or psycho and dangerous. The one with the teddy bear looked too tall to be a younger child (long legs), closer to teens I think. I agree that the others are more put together and surely have an agenda. And I don't think the others are "sick".

What is the minimum current population of this "desert" island? It's practically Grand Central Station.

My count is:

44 (I think) surviving Lostaways (counting the Raftaways, Walt and Aaron)

maybe 6-8 Tailaways

about 12 barefoot Others

4 (?) Gorton's Fishermen Others

Danielle Rousseau

Desmond

Which puts it at about 68-70 current human occupants MINIMUM. And there are quite a number of known deceased.