Sayid and Shannon are a couple, but who else could make a love connection with Sayid?

I think Sayid and Sun would be a nice pairing.

I chose Kate because the others wouldn't be a good match because alot of them are already "taken"...Rose & Bernard, Claire & Charlie, Sun & Jin. Ana - I just don't want to sick that one on no one! Libby maybe for Locke. My first 2 choices for Kate would be Sawyer or Jack, then Sayid though.

I think Shannon should be with Sayid for now because his heart really belongs to Nadia.

Libby for Locke???? :confused: No way. I chose her for Sayid. She's suppposedly a therapist and if the spoilers are true, (I actually hope they aren't, believe it or not) he may need one. :undecide:

:sayid: :sayid: :sayid:

Kate... Kate... Kate...
or me...
But Kate and him would be a perfect paring! Or him and Ana Lucia... Or him and Libby... Him and Libby or Him and Kate. Done.

Libby for Locke???? :confused: No way. I chose her for Sayid. She's suppposedly a therapist

Please, next time use the Spoiler wrap!! I don't read the spoilers purposely so I don't know what happens next cause as the title suggests..it spoils it. I like to be surprised. Now cause of your post I know and I didn't want to know. I left it out of your quote above so if you wanna edit your post so no one else sees that doesn't want to see.

Please oh please use spoiler wrap!!!

Besides me, you mean? I think he should stay with Shannon, they just seem to be compatible to each other. If necessary, I could see him with Kate.

Nadia isn't on the poll? :cry:

I have my eye on Libby for him because he does look good with blondes (:whistling) and I like Cynthia Watros. They are perhaps hinting at Libby and Michael, though. Libby and Locke???? Where did that come from? I don't really see Locke as being interested in women right now; he's too busy being in love with the island.

Naveen and MRod are cute together (see pics from Hawaii S2 premiere for proof), and Sayid and Ana would be a fiery combination--if nothing else, it would be fun to see his response to her "I say stop, you stop" shtick. Something tells me he would not be overly amused.

But Ana, like Kate, seems to be reserved for the infamous quadrangle. (Aside: it annoys me no end when shows introduce characters specifically tagging them as love interests for one person or another. It seems like a better idea to let relationships develop naturally as led by story and chemistry.)

I'm rather surprised no one is picking Claire. Maybe it's just that she's got hobbit-prints all over her?

As for Sun--no, no, no. She and Jin belong together for ever and always. Unless Jin dies and then she needs to hook up with Jack. ;)

Please oh please use spoiler wrap!!!

Spoiler font is always good, but to be fair

saying that Sayid is suffering enough to need a therapist isn't much of a spoiler. Who on Craphole Island DOESN'T need a therapist at this point? ;)


Other than Vincent, that is.

Spoiler font is always good, but to be fair

saying that Sayid is suffering enough to need a therapist isn't much of a spoiler. Who on Craphole Island DOESN'T need a therapist at this point? ;)


Other than Vincent, that is.

True, but I'm sure that is not what they were referring to ;) . Anyways, it's over now, and I know. I was just trying to not have anyone else who doesn't like to read the spoilers know. That's all. Plus I think the spoiler wrap is a good thing. I wish all forums had it.

I'm rather surprised no one is picking Claire. Maybe it's just that she's got hobbit-prints all over her?

Because if Sawyer can get away from Kate and Ana-Lucia, he would be great with Claire. ;)

Please, next time use the Spoiler wrap!! I don't read the spoilers purposely so I don't know what happens next cause as the title suggests..it spoils it. I like to be surprised. Now cause of your post I know and I didn't want to know. I left it out of your quote above so if you wanna edit your post so no one else sees that doesn't want to see.

Please oh please use spoiler wrap!!!

Sorry LockeHurleySawyer...I didn't think saying there was a spoiler was much of a spoiler. If I spoiled you, I do apologize. But I still like Libby with Sayid, not Michael, ick. And Cassandra, if things go down like they might, I don't think Sayid is going to be interested in Ana. At least not THAT WAY.

But you are right...Sun belongs with Jin, and, they ARE married, so it's sort of rude to pair her with someone else.

Oh, and mrstater...we agree. Sawyer/Claire. ConMama all the way. Why? Because Charlie is terrifying. :biggrin:

mrstater,
Because if Sawyer can get away from Kate and Ana-Lucia, he would be great with Claire.

Oh, I agree--I would be all over that. But the chances of Sawyer escaping ONE of those harpies, let alone BOTH? Almost nil. I do love that girl though, and in general I can't stand sweet ingenues. So why not Sayid and Claire? They look great together, and she is short. :angel: Plus, can you imagine how cute Sayid/Aaron scenes would be? I think at least 1/4 of my disappointment with Ex.2 is that Sayid only held the baby for about a nanosecond.

WKW,


But I still like Libby with Sayid, not Michael, ick.

Aww, I like Michael, even though he's being a donkey of the first order lately. But I don't think he's going to be interested in falling in love as long as Walt is missing.
I like the idea of Libby with Sayid, but I am worried that she might be too tall for him. (You know how I can be about that.)

Sun belongs with Jin, and, they ARE married, so it's sort of rude to pair her with someone else.

Except Jack. :angel: Don't forget that.

if things go down like they might, I don't think Sayid is going to be interested in Ana. At least not THAT WAY.


If things go down like that, it will be the most stupid and shark-jumping plot contortion imaginable. :mad: ! I really hope those spumors are wrong....

ConMama? That's cute. :) And you guys are right, Charlie is on the scary side.

Sorry LockeHurleySawyer...I didn't think]

But you are right...Sun belongs with Jin, and, they ARE married, so it's sort of rude to pair her with someone else.

Oh, and mrstater...we agree. Sawyer/Claire. ConMama all the way. Why? Because Charlie is terrifying. :biggrin:

It's ok. No problem!! I agree with you - Sun belongs with Jin. In the beginning I thought that maybe Sun would cheat on Jin with Michael, but I don't think that is going to happen anymore. I think that Michael has a new respect for Jin, all with helping him build the raft, leaving everyone else to go find him in "..And Found".

Now Sawyer with Claire? Hmm? That is a thought. Anyone but Ana!!! That girl is frightening. But I'm sure some would perceive sexual tension between Ana & Sawyer. Ick! I'd rather him with Kate or Claire. I guess only time will tell.

ConMama? LOL! I like it. I like the idea of Libby with Sayid, too. And Cassandra, as much as we would like it, and with this show, who knows, but it doesn't seem that Nadia is on the island. So...Libby will do. I like Cynthia Watros, too. They would look hot together.

. Anyone but Ana!!! That girl is frightening. But I'm sure some would perceive sexual tension between Ana & Sawyer.

{blushes} Er, I'm one of the ones who perceived some sexual tension between Sawyer and Ana. (Although I do think that the writers are trying to hard in that area.)

But hey, if Sawyer doesn't want Ana, I would take her for Sayid. Because I'm positive she's too much woman for Jack. ;)

And Cassandra, as much as we would like it, and with this show, who knows, but it doesn't seem that Nadia is on the island. So...Libby will do. I like Cynthia Watros, too. They would look hot together.

You know, I am less and less sure that Nadia won't show up. (It was kind of disappointing that she wasn't among the tail-end survivors). But Craphole Island is apparently about as busy as Grand Central, and a connection between Nadia's medical lab and Dharma doesn't seem out of the question....

Libby and Sayid would probably look hot together, but it is sad how grubbed up CW has been. The tailaways in general aren't as pristine as our survivors, but Libby is the only one who looks like she's been rolled in the mud and left to dry. :(

But hey, if Sawyer doesn't want Ana, I would take her for Sayid. Because I'm positive she's too much woman for Jack. ;)

She could definetly kick Jack's butt. Alot of people say he orders people around alot...I don't think it would work with her! :rotflmao:

{blushes} You know, I am less and less sure that Nadia won't show up. (It was kind of disappointing that she wasn't among the tail-end survivors). But Craphole Island is apparently about as busy as Grand Central, and a connection between Nadia's medical lab and Dharma doesn't seem out of the question....

I had thought of that. Wouldn't that be weird for Sayid??

Libby and Sayid would probably look hot together, but it is sad how grubbed up CW has been. The tailaways in general aren't as pristine as our survivors, but Libby is the only one who looks like she's been rolled in the mud and left to dry. :(

Yeah, Libby looks like she was rode hard and put away wet as my grandpa used to say. (that sounds bd..nothing sexual implied, lol!) Says something for how pretty she is that she still looks relatively good. I'm sure she'll clean up nicely on the other side of the island...they have a shower, after all. :biggrin: The stewardess doesn't look too hot, either. Ekco, Ecko, Echo...whatever...his clothes are in shreds. They all have a glazed over/shocked look in their eyes...they've obviously had a hard time of it.

Wow. I guess Nadia could be on the island. That would be really weird. But, this IS Lost.

I had thought of that. Wouldn't that be weird for Sayid??

Especially if

she's part of the Dharma Initiative aka Hanso Foundation aka Evil Overlords of Moreau Islands. That would make her partially responsible for Shannon's death. What a moral/emotional conflict that would be for Sayid. :( (But good drama. :))



Yeah, Libby looks like she was rode hard and put away wet as my grandpa used to say. (that sounds bd..nothing sexual implied, lol!)

I think that saying has something to do with horses but it certainly sounds dirty.

Says something for how pretty she is that she still looks relatively good. I'm sure she'll clean up nicely on the other side of the island...they have a shower, after all. :biggrin: The stewardess doesn't look too hot, either. Ekco, Ecko, Echo...whatever...his clothes are in shreds. They all have a glazed over/shocked look in their eyes...they've obviously had a hard time of it.

Poor Tailaways. They need a shower and some clothes from the extras pile.

And a cookie. :)

I would say Sayid and Kate. I can't really see him with anyone else...but then again, I didn't see Sayid and Shannon coming. But anyway, I don't think the whole Kate thing would work, because she's got to deal with her quadrangle. I don't think they could fit anyone else in there! :smile:

Kate.

Me... I choose me :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:


Kitten... :sayid:

I think Sayid and Danielle have anice thing going if Shannon wasn't there... I am not saying I want him to be with Daniell cause I like him and Shannon just a second option

I don't think Sayid particularly has a hero complex or a need to be with "weaker" parters, but I could see him being frustrated with a really headstrong "I'm going with you" type like Kate or Ana-Lucia. He's such a protector, he might get really stressed out and distracted if his girlfriend were off performing dangerous tasks in the island. (And vice-versa, we've already seen Kate frustrated by Jack's protectiveness, and Ana-Lucia has the potential of being downright hostile toward that kind of treatment.)

As out of character as it seems (to me) that Sawyer is now flirting with Ana-Lucia (come on, Sawyer is not just a mindless flirt-with-anything-with-boobs guy, especially with a bullet hole in his arm), I really can't see Sayid attracted to her attitude, not unless she demonstrates a much softer side. Sayid is such a tender person; in some ways, it would be even more a "savior" kind of coupling to pair him with Kate, who won't let people in, and Ana-Lucia, who likely is very much the same as Kate in that respect. Both women are (or seem, in Ana-Lucia's case) a lot harder and need more thawing than even Shannon.

Definitely can see him really respecting either/both of those women, maybe even being good friends...But throwing romance into the equation... A Claire/Sayid or Sun/Sayid would be more believable, I think.

I think Sayid and Danielle have anice thing going if Shannon wasn't there... I am not saying I want him to be with Daniell cause I like him and Shannon just a second option

But...but...Danielle is, to quote Charlie, who was right for once in his life, a nutjob. Sayid feels compassion for her, and even respects her competence, but I can't see him being romantically attracted to someone who is cuckoo for coconuts. ;)

He's such a protector, he might get really stressed out and distracted if his girlfriend were off performing dangerous tasks in the island. (And vice-versa, we've already seen Kate frustrated by Jack's protectiveness, and Ana-Lucia has the potential of being downright hostile toward that kind of treatment.)

I think we've seen otherwise, though, in Sayid's early interactions with Kate. While neither of them was, I think, actively seeking a romantic interest, there was definitely an undertone there before he took his walkabout. And yet Sayid easily accepted Kate's derring-do and treated her as a partner. He had her back when she needed it, such as when they bearded Sawyer's lair in search of the missing water, but didn't try to cramp her style. In the one case where he voiced concerns about her being in over her head--when Sawyer showed up while they were trying to triangulate the signal--Sayid accepted Kate's simple "I can handle him."

As out of character as it seems (to me) that Sawyer is now flirting with Ana-Lucia (come on, Sawyer is not just a mindless flirt-with-anything-with-boobs guy, especially with a bullet hole in his arm),

He's not? Since when? :) And since Sawyer didn't let torture slow him down when he wanted a kiss from Kate, an itsy-bitsy festering bullet hole doesn't seem like an impediment.

Sayid is such a tender person; in some ways, it would be even more a "savior" kind of coupling to pair him with Kate, who won't let people in, and Ana-Lucia, who likely is very much the same as Kate in that respect. Both women are (or seem, in Ana-Lucia's case) a lot harder and need more thawing than even Shannon.

But that is one of the things that would make it interesting, especially with AL, whose tough outer shell makes Kate's look like a squishy marshmallow frosting. :)

I could see Sun and Sayid together if something happened to Jin. I think they share a similar outlook on things. I am still intrigued by Libby, though.

He's not? Since when? And since Sawyer didn't let torture slow him down when he wanted a kiss from Kate, a itsy-bitsy festering bullet hole doesn't seem like an impediment.

But Sawyer and Kate had already been building for a few episodes before that. Flirting with Ana-Lucia came out of nowhere. There was no impression before that Sawyer anything but loathed her. Holding that rock after she beat him up, he didn't seem very inclined to give her any different treatment than he would a man. Of course, flirting could just be his last ditch effort to get her to lay off the Rambina act, but since we know per Lindelof that there's going to be a Jack/Kate/Sawyer/AL love "trapezoid" I think it's safe to assume we're meant to believe Sawyer was seriously attracted to her in that moment, that he felt sexual tension, and that is what strikes me as out of character, because it just seemed too clumsy for Sawyer's style -- and SO cliche. (But I guess this argument is more suited to the Sawyer board.)

I think we've seen otherwise, though, in Sayid's early interactions with Kate. While neither of them was, I think, actively seeking a romantic interest, there was definitely an undertone there before he took his walkabout. And yet Sayid easily accepted Kate's derring-do and treated her as a partner. He had her back when she needed it, such as when they bearded Sawyer's lair in search of the missing water, but didn't try to cramp her style. In the one case where he voiced concerns about her being in over her head--when Sawyer showed up while they were trying to triangulate the signal--Sayid accepted Kate's simple "I can handle him."

Good points. In the first viewing of the episodes, I thought those two were headed for romance, but I was glad when that fizzled into friendship, actually. (Two men for Kate is plenty.) It seemed nice, especially in light of developing Sayid as the non-stereotypical Arab male (or even the stereotypical hero male, and quickly dispelling Sawyer's prejudiced POV) that they could have a team/partnership/whatever in a purely platonic way, that they could see each other as equals without being romantically involved.

But that is one of the things that would make it interesting, especially with AL, whose tough outer shell makes Kate's look like a squishy marshmallow frosting.

True. I'm not saying I wouldn't mind seeing Sayid in that kind of role with a romantic interest. It's rather how he is with Shannon. (Though it would be more interesting to see him have a different kind of relationship, so that it doesn't seem like he's on the rebound or substituting for Shannon.) But IMHO, AL's tough outer shell is overdone, contrived, and cliched. She could develop into something more...but so far this season the writers haven't seemed to be very focused on complex character development.

Definitely can see him really respecting either/both of those women, maybe even being good friends...But throwing romance into the equation... A Claire/Sayid or Sun/Sayid would be more believable, I think.

Claire could be possible, just because Sayid could protect her and Aaron.

whoknowswhy,
I could see Sun and Sayid together if something happened to Jin. I think they share a similar outlook on things.

I have finally figured out my objection to Sayid/Sun (other than the fact that she and Jin are true love 4ever, of course, and that she needs to be with Jack if "forever" gets cut off).

I don't think that Sayid would see her as available, even if Jin were {knock on wood} dead. Remember, he himself was emotionally (if not romantically) fixated on Nadia for eight years, during most of which he strongly suspected she was dead. He would understand how long it might take for Sun to get over Jin, and back off. By the time he DID see her as available, she'd probably have long since been snapped up by some other guy.

mrstater,
But Sawyer and Kate had already been building for a few episodes before that. Flirting with Ana-Lucia came out of nowhere.

True, by the time of the kiss, there was a bit of history between Skate. But Sawyer came on strong to her right out of the gate with his "I know about girls like you" borderline sexual harrassment. :) And let's not forget his infamous "Light, comma, Sticks" introduction to Shannon. I think that sexual aggressiveness is Sawyer's usual way of dealing when he meets women, part of his distancing defense system, just as outright aggressiveness is with men. Probably it's even a way for him to separate the women from the girls; any gal who falls for it can be dismissed as a mark rather than a person. (The one person he didn't try any of this with is Claire--she disarms him, which is why they might make a good match.)

There was no impression before that Sawyer anything but loathed her. Holding that rock after she beat him up, he didn't seem very inclined to give her any different treatment than he would a man. Of course, flirting could just be his last ditch effort to get her to lay off the Rambina act, but since we know per Lindelof that there's going to be a Jack/Kate/Sawyer/AL love "trapezoid" I think it's safe to assume we're meant to believe Sawyer was seriously attracted to her in that moment, that he felt sexual tension, and that is what strikes me as out of character, because it just seemed too clumsy for Sawyer's style -- and SO cliche. (But I guess this argument is more suited to the Sawyer board.)

He met Ana under exceptional circumstances, though--hard to flirt when you are dumped in a pit together and fear for your lives (he thought) or when someone is beaning you over the head with rocks/guns. He took the first opportunity to try to redefine the terms of their relationship and exert dominance. And yes, the sexual tension between Sawyer and Ana is contrived and over-the-top. But (despite the writers' best tries) it's still there. ;)

But you're right--all this is better fodder for the Sawyer board. (Oops.)

Good points. In the first viewing of the episodes, I thought those two were headed for romance, but I was glad when that fizzled into friendship, actually. (Two men for Kate is plenty.) It seemed nice, especially in light of developing Sayid as the non-stereotypical Arab male (or even the stereotypical hero male, and quickly dispelling Sawyer's prejudiced POV) that they could have a team/partnership/whatever in a purely platonic way, that they could see each other as equals without being romantically involved.

I said early on that if Kate had Jack/Sawyer/Sayid fighting over her, she'd not only be the luckiest girl on the island but in the world. :D

The Kate/Sayid friendship was good, though (and could have kept a romantic possibility simmering on the backburner until a few seasons has passed and Kate had worked her way through Jack and Sawyer). They actually have a lot more in common than Sawyer and Kate do. It's a pity that the friendship was dropped especially if

Kate is the one who offs Shannon. The situation would be a helluva more dramatic if it blew up a close friendship between K/Sayid.

(Though it would be more interesting to see him have a different kind of relationship, so that it doesn't seem like he's on the rebound or substituting for Shannon.)

In all honesty, I think this whole hooking up discussion is moot for just that reason. If Sayid shows any kind of sexual/romantic interest in another woman for at least the rest of this season, I'll be surprised and disappointed. It was hard enough to justify his moving on from Nadia (as we have hundreds of pages of posts to prove :)), but at least he hadn't seen her for eight years and could expect never to see her again. Shannon is apparently the first person he's opened up to in many years; even if his interest in her is entirely sexual, I think her death on his watch is going to, or at least should, devastate him. Especially if there's some suspicion that Locke was involved in it--since Sayid is the one who kept Shannon herself from taking Locke out of the picture. Any woman in the near future WILL probably be a rebound/substitute for Shannon.

But IMHO, AL's tough outer shell is overdone, contrived, and cliched. She could develop into something more...but so far this season the writers haven't seemed to be very focused on complex character development.

A big, fat, sad word to every bit of this. Ana entertains me, but at the moment she's a caricature. I'd like to think that the writers have more in mind for her than just bad-***, but the cynical part of me (which is a big part ;)) doubts it. Character development for people we KNOW this season has been contradictory or virtually nonexistent, so I don't expect much for the tailaways.

LostElphie,

Claire could be possible, just because Sayid could protect her and Aaron.

And he'd do a far better job of it than some people. :angel: (But I really want to see Claire protecting her baby all on her own this season. I guess that's something I should take to the Claire forum, though. :)) It would be great if there was a scene in which Claire thanked Sayid for saving Aaron though--or at least being involved in saving him, since she seems to think the credit goes to Charlie. :rolleyes:

I could see Sayid and Sun together if something happened to Jin. I don't think Sayid would necessarily wait longer because of his search for Nadia. If anything, he might feel that that led him to waste timewith Shannon which he may regret if she dies. He might get into another relationship sooner than we think. I would like to see SOMETHING, since he is such a romantic character. I don't think mooning over Shannon for the rest of the season is a very good plot line for him. Unless they take him off on an adventure of some sort. I just hope this whole scenerio doesn't push him into the background.

could see Sayid and Sun together if something happened to Jin. I don't think Sayid would necessarily wait longer because of his search for Nadia.

Fine, I give up. :(


with Shannon which he may regret if she dies. He might get into another relationship sooner than we think. I would like to see SOMETHING, since he is such a romantic character. I don't think mooning over Shannon for the rest of the season is a very good plot line for him. Unless they take him off on an adventure of some sort.

He is a very romantic character, but for that very reason I hope he doesn't fall into another relationship too quickly (as much as I would enjoy watching it). It would dilute the character's intensity--too many love interests would make him seem like someone in love with love (read: Charlie) or, worse, with sex. He doesn't have to moon or disappear (although I fear one or the other)--there's always revenge to take. :) And it could spur him into more of a leadership position--especially if Jack and/or Locke take the killer's side (ie. if the killer is Kate or Ana).

I just hope this whole scenerio doesn't push him into the background.

You mean even FURTHER into the background than he's been so far this season? :cry:

He is a very romantic character, but for that very reason I hope he doesn't fall into another relationship too quickly (as much as I would enjoy watching it).

Same here. NA plays a wonderful romantic character, but he also just plays a wonderful any kind of character.

But as to the overall idea of the thread, who else on the island Sayid could have a relationship with other than Shannon, regardless of her fate, I really honestly can't see him with any of the other women -- because he hasn't had much to do with the other women. In theory he could work with any of them (except, IMO, Ana-Lucia, the one-dimensional witch), but it all comes down to screen chemistry. And while NA has chemistry with innate objects, it's difficult for me to really imagine what kind of chemistry the other women would have with him, because they've all been so tied with the other male leads.

And while NA has chemistry with innate objects, it's difficult for me to really imagine what kind of chemistry the other women would have with him, because they've all been so tied with the other male leads.

I never saw the chemistry with Maggie/Shannon to be honest. And there's always Libby, she's new...and not a b#@$h like AnaLucia, from what we've seen.

Maybe Sayid shouldnt hook up with anyone else; maybe, he could just be the lone wolf, but a very sexy wolf indeed. He definitely is strong enough to be on his own. But if necessary, he can stay with Shannon cause everyone needs some love.

I guess I presented my ideas while trying to avoid exactly what Cassandra and MDLB said: that if things go down as it looks like they will and Shannon dies Sayid will somehow be even more regulated to background noise :mad: and I will HATE that. Maybe they will send him off on an adventure, or perhaps as Cassandra suggests he will seek revenge on whoever does in Shannon. But I hope that isn't the case...it would be a step backward in his character development, I think. I just want him to be an integral part of the show. Please.

Well, over on LOST FORUM I heard something which made me think.....

Kate is going to have a steamy kiss in the epi that Shannon dies.
Sayid/Shannon
Shannon is shot by Kate possbly out of Jealousy (weird, but possible)
Sayid alone
Kate comforts him, and he doesn't know she shot Shannon
MAKE OUT!
ha, prolly not... but still, if it were, my username would be to good use.

(kayid) Kate ;)

The only lostaway Sayid has had any chemistry with is Kate. But, as others have said, Kate is already in ust with 2 of the guys, three would be too much. So that leaves Libby or a lonewolf role. I'm ok with either one as long as Shayid is "killed" :biggrin:

Backwards character development, WhoKnowsWhy, or tragic flaw? I must confess, I wouldn't mind Sayid as a Shakesperean hero. ;)

Backwards character development, WhoKnowsWhy, or tragic flaw? I must confess, I wouldn't mind Sayid as a Shakesperean hero. ;)

I remember reading something (was it one of Mala's fics?) about Shannon thinking of Sayid as Othello, with Boone's Iago whispering in his ear. Yes, he has that dark side...the potential for, if not evil, the appearance of it. But I still hope they don't go that way, or if they do, that he stops short of eye-for-an-eye ultimate revenge.

Backwards character development, WhoKnowsWhy, or tragic flaw? I must confess, I wouldn't mind Sayid as a Shakesperean hero. ;)

That would be very nice. Lost with Shakespearan undertones, that would be quite interesting.

Sayid pursuing

Shannon's killer

needn't be a revenge matter. It could be detective work, at which he is very good. Remember when he told Charlie, "This isn't personal"?

But it sounds like the mystery will be solved within a couple of episodes.

Exciting. I love mystery and Sayid is really good at getting information out of people.

Sayid pursuing

Shannon's killer

needn't be a revenge matter. It could be detective work, at which he is very good. Remember when he told Charlie, "This isn't personal"?

Would it be humanly possible for it not to be about revenge (or at least avenging/justice)?
From all accounts, it looks as though Sayid and Shannon are finally going to get some of their issues resolved, take their relationship to the next level physically, and then she's going to die. Those are some emotional times for Sayid. Sayid has already demonstrated on a number of occasions being deeply emotionally involved with people, and that he can act on emotion just as Charlie can.

I always thought it seemed kind of unfeeling/unthinking of him to say "This isn't personal" to Charlie -- of course Rousseau running off with Claire's baby isn't personal to Sayid, but it really is personal to Charlie. Sayid didn't take it personally because he doesn't really have a relationship with or emotional ties to Claire. But if Rousseau had, say, kidnapped Shannon at gunpoint, I'd like to see Sayid not take it personally. Sure, he would have the common sense to stay level-headed so he can talk Crazy!Rousseau into letting Shannon go...but that's not quite the same as how he may react to her being killed -- especially if it's murder.

But I guess this is digressing from the topic once again... I apologize.

Do you guys think we should take some of these future/spoiler/spec/rumor-related tangents to the spoiler board or a clearly marked spoiler thread? I'd like to speculate freely--plus I just realized it must be maddening for spoiler-free folks to see all these big black blocks of temptation before them. ;)

Not that I think we are fooling anyone. When spoiler font suddenly appears in a post about single Sayid, most people are going to guess that Shayid are breaking up or (as is the case) worse. :ohwell:


whoknowswhy,
Sayid will somehow be even more regulated to background noise :mad: and I will HATE that. Maybe they will send him off on an adventure, or perhaps as Cassandra suggests he will seek revenge on whoever does in Shannon. But I hope that isn't the case...it would be a step backward in his character development, I think.

I too would HATE that. :ranting:

Seeking revenge might be a step back, but it would also be very human. One of the reasons Sayid is so interesting to me (heck, the reason most of the characters are interesting) is that he is so flawed. Sayid fights his dark side, but he doesn't always win--torturing Sawyer being the most notable example. And while it's dramatic and interesting when he fails, what I think will be even more dramatic and interesting is how he would deal with that failure. Last time he exiled himself from humanity. Next time...? 8)

I just want him to be an integral part of the show. Please.

He SHOULD be. If for no other reason than that he's one of the most versatile castaways, and they need him to finesse plot holes ("Quick! Fix the computer that keeps the universe from blowing up!").

And, also, he's hot. :blush:

And if anything, Shannon's death should be the beginning of a big arc for him, because of the surviving castaways Sayid is the one closest to her and will suffer the most. It's just logical storytelling. Of course, logical storytelling indicated that Shannon would get a big story and character development in the wake of Boone's death, so we can see where logic gets us. :cry:

kayid,
Well, over on LOST FORUM I heard something which made me think.....

I wish.

Even though I'm over Kate, a KaSay kiss would be hot.

But her big kiss will no doubt be with Jack, so that she can play with his heart and other portions of his anatomy a little more before bouncing off to cry alligator tears on Sawyer's wounded shoulder.

wcb2,

The only lostaway Sayid has had any chemistry with is Kate.

Now that I disagree with. If nothing else, Sayid has fantastic chemistry with Sawyer. :whistling

Hey, I wanted to participate in this poll, but it's missing the "Me" option! Ha ha!

Mrs. Tater,

Maybe I wasn't clear enough in explaining why I thought Sayid could remain level-headed as he does "detective work."

In my opinion, it was more than appropriate for him to tell Charlie, "This isn't personal." The Turniphead kidnapping fiasco WASN'T ABOUT CHARLIE and Charlie's need to have some woman depend on him. Worse, Charlie had already impulsively turned Claire's crisis into being ABOUT CHARLIE and his needs on an earlier occasion--the capture of Ethan--with disastrous results (in that Sayid at least almost surely could have gotten some kind of information out of Ethan if Charlie hadn't freaked and blown him away).

I'm not saying that Sayid wouldn't feel anger and grief--only that he would be professional enough to set his feelings aside long enough to work to understand and solve the problem, FOR THE GREATER GOOD.

Besides, I don't know that Sayid would ever visibly demonstrate emotion in front of others. He seems more like the stoic "strong silent type" who would hold it all in until he could grieve (and seethe) alone and on his own time.

Sayid has succumbed to the temptation to freak out only ONCE on the island--his furious fight with Sawyer right after the crash. Once we saw the horrific events in Sayid's backstory that immediately preceded the crash, his emotional breakdown in response to Sawyer's taunts became understandable. But now Sayid understands how high the stakes are, the level of danger they are all in, and how much the Lostaways depend on him for survival. He MUST compartmentalize his emotions for the good of all.

I think...

Nadia's appearing on the island eventually...


Namaste

:cool:

LostMyMarbles, excellent points. I agree. In my earlier post, I wasn't trying to insinuate that Sayid will completely flip out...Just that it will be hard for him to emotionally detach. I think for the most part you are correct about how controlled he can be, but I'm not so sure about this:

Sayid has succumbed to the temptation to freak out only ONCE on the island--his furious fight with Sawyer right after the crash. Once we saw the horrific events in Sayid's backstory that immediately preceded the crash, his emotional breakdown in response to Sawyer's taunts became understandable.

What about torturing Sawyer? It always seemed to me that there was more about Sayid's (and Jack's, too) own personal beef with Sawyer than about finding Shannon's inhalers. -- especially when Sayid was so convinced that he was right that he went after Sawyer again after Sawyer confessed to Kate -- Sayid was pretty much berserk then.

I hope I don't sound argumentative. I very much enjoy these discussions and the different points of view people bring to each scene and character. It'll be interesting to see what direction the writers take -- assuming that they don't ignore him like they have most of the season. :(

Excellent point, Mrs. Tater. I agree, Sayid's thinking was pretty distorted in the Sawyer-torture matter--a fact Sayid quickly realized. (But I'm still mad they wrote Sayid being stupid/naive enough to fall for Locke's misdirection.) Let's hope he stays clear-headed this season, no matter what the provocation. And yes, Sayid needs to be seen doing more than fixing ancient computers and crawling around Craphole Chernobyl!


Back to the original topic of this thread . . .

I wouldn't want to see Sayid hooking up with anyone else for a good long time. On the other hand, I don't think

he'll pine forever after Shannon's demise.

Been there, done that. Sayid is now more practical. He now realizes that life is short (!) and he'd better get what comfort and companionship he can from among the potential partners available on the island.

Of course, with all the carnage, who knows who'll be left standing a season or two down the road?

I think Sun is really the only potential partner who could be a worthy intellectual companion to Sayid (if Jin were out of the picture, of course). But I also could see him with sweet Claire, who DOES have a backbone people don't give her enough credit for.

Kate . . . I know he was attracted to her in the beginning. And I'm not sure at this point that anyone has tipped off Sayid on the big shocking reveal about who Kate really is. (They've been pretty busy, especially Shannon.) But I think Sayid would be turned off by Kate's selfishness and duplicity. Although I think he'd like her tomboy aspects. All in all, Kate would be pretty far down the list, I think.

Rose? Sure, in a pinch--she's good folks, and not stupid. Danielle? Well, yeah, if they were the last two people left alive on the island. Ana Lucia? Not 'til hell freezes over or Ana Lucia improves her attitude, whichever comes first.

(But I'm still mad they wrote Sayid being stupid/naive enough to fall for Locke's misdirection.)

Heh. I've taken to calling these Sayid's Random Acts of Stupidity For the Sake of Plot Contrivance. They make him out to be a genius: he can fix anything, he can just tap on a wall and know it's 8-10 feet of concrete, etc. Then he does things like, oh, leave a bag with a stranger in an airport, and fall for creepy strangers' (with 400 knives) assertions that Sayid's nemesis obviously had to be the one who destroyed the transceiver. :Headdesk: Hello, writers, Sayid, Mr. Interrogator, should know when people are lying -- especially when the audience does.

I think Sun is really the only potential partner who could be a worthy intellectual companion to Sayid (if Jin were out of the picture, of course). But I also could see him with sweet Claire, who DOES have a backbone people don't give her enough credit for.

Sun would definitely be a good match for Sayid brain-wise. But they are both so alike personality wise (quiet, brooding, kind) that it wouldn't really make for a very interesting screen match. Claire, on the other hand, would be very sweet, and cute, and would bring out that sweet, cute side of Sayid that comes out so rarely. And yes -- she does have a backbone. Mad Claire is fun to watch. But she doesn't seem particularly bright, at least not in comparison to Sayid.

Maybe Sun and Claire could mesh themselves into one person. :D

I like the idea of a Claire/Sayid pairing, but I agree with Mrstater that Claire, while not stupid by any means, is not Sayid's intellectual equal. Tha's why I am holding out hope for Libby. I've read conflicting things about the character so can't say anything for sure but I really like Cynthia Watros as an actress and think she would be a great acting partner for Naveen. So I guess I will say wait and see. it might also be easier for Sayid to find comfort in one of the tailenders (NOT ANA!!) who wouldn't have first hand knowledge of his relationship with Shannon.

it might also be easier for Sayid to find comfort in one of the tailenders (NOT ANA!!) who wouldn't have first hand knowledge of his relationship with Shannon.

That's a good point, MDLB. As few people as are on the island, it's going to get rather like high school if there are break-ups or deaths or whatever, with everyone dating everyone, and everyone knowing who all who is involved with on the island. (LOL, did that make any sense?) Meeting up with the tail-enders is probably the only chance for some fresh blood.

Who knows, Steve and Tracy might have broken up off-screen and need to find other people to keep them warm at night. ;)

Agreed, mrstater...it WOULD be like high school and a very small high school at that. I think the tailenders offer some good possibilities. I don't like Ana right now...she's a one-note character so far, but that could change. Still, I see her more with Jack or Sawyer.

I've already stated that I think Libby and Sayid would look hot together, so I won't push that point except to add that if we don't see him with Ana (and I gather we don't :biggrin: ) Libby is the likely candidate, since the other woman (stewardess??) is only listed as a guest. So I hope Libby turns out to be cool. We'll just have to wait and see.

Sayid and Sawyer already have the start of their S/M; B/D relationship don't they?


Oh yeah...

He has that with Danielle too.


Sayid can be top or bottom I guess.


Smorgasboard!



Namaste

:cool:

Bite your tongue ApolloBear! Sayid will not enter into the Kate/Jack/Ana/Sawyer quadrangle as a potential partner for Sawyer. And Danielle, forget it. He defends her, yes, but he does realize that Charlie is essentially right. The woman is a nutjob. Not someone he would have a relationship with. Perhaps you were joking. One can only hope.:biggrin:

Bite your tongue ApolloBear! Sayid will not enter into the Kate/Jack/Ana/Sawyer quadrangle as a potential partner for Sawyer. And Danielle, forget it. He defends her, yes, but he does realize that Charlie is essentially right. The woman is a nutjob. Not someone he would have a relationship with. Perhaps you were joking. One can only hope.:biggrin:
But of course I was joking.

Yeah, the quad storyline with Kate/Jack/Ana/Sawyer could be kewl.
I had mentioned that one before also.

I'd preferably like Shannon and Sayid to stick together and hope the rumors aren't true of Shannon's death.

And then if Nadia showed up...woo hoo!


Namaste

:cool:

But of course I was joking.

Oh. For a brief moment I thought I was not alone.

:sadwalk:



And then if Nadia showed up...woo hoo!


Namaste

:cool:

By far the most interesting option. If Desmond can be randomly on the island, why not Nadia? :ohwell:

MDLB,
And Danielle, forget it. He defends her, yes, but he does realize that Charlie is essentially right. The woman is a nutjob. Not someone he would have a relationship with.

Thank you!

mrstater & WKW,
Agreed, mrstater...it WOULD be like high school and a very small high school at that.

The dating pool on Craphole Island is going to be smaller than pretty much any high school, and the tailaways aren't going to help much. Bernard is married, for one thing. ;) And Mr. Eko is "worse."

At least the Tailaways have more women than men. The main group of Lostaways seems to have a dire shortage of females.

I have always wanted Sayid to hook up with Danielle. (O.K. I am probably in the minority on this one..:)) Sayid was so tender with her empathizing with her pain of losing her daughter. However, it does not appear like we will see that much of Danielle if at all this season. It's like she disappeared from the island which is a real glich in continuity IMHO.

I really enjoy Mira Furlan. She is a great actress and I miss her on the show. The writers need to do a lot more with her character. She was a brilliant scientist so why does she look like so awful on screen and her intelligence totally downplayed. *Grrrrr*

At least the Tailaways have more women than men. The main group of Lostaways seems to have a dire shortage of females.

And the few that they do have disappear for long stretches at a time. Except for Kate. :mad:

really enjoy Mira Furlan. She is a great actress and I miss her on the show. The writers need to do a lot more with her character. She was a brilliant scientist so why does she look like so awful on screen and her intelligence totally downplayed. *Grrrrr*

Well, Danielle wouldn't be the first smart woman to look awful after being stranded on an island for 16 years. That said, I think Mira is excellent but I like Danielle as a mysterious character; I wouldn't want to see her all the time. And I just don't think she's a viable romantic option for Sayid (or anyone)--at least until after she has some quality therapy time with Libby. :)

And the few that they do have disappear for long stretches at a time. Except for Kate. :mad:

Let's hope that's not the case with the new women added. I'd like to see some interaction between all these very different women. Not just as romantic hook-ups for the men...but what about girl talk?? What a bout a good cat-fight??

Well, Danielle wouldn't be the first smart woman to look awful after being stranded on an island for 16 years. That said, I think Mira is excellent but I like Danielle as a mysterious character; I wouldn't want to see her all the time. And I just don't think she's a viable romantic option for Sayid (or anyone)--at least until after she has some quality therapy time with Libby. :)

Libby could have quite a practice on this island, couldn't she?! But I don't think there is enough therapy in the world to "cure" Danielle, much less make her a suitable romantic partner for Sayid.

Well, Danielle wouldn't be the first smart woman to look awful after being stranded on an island for 16 years. That said, I think Mira is excellent but I like Danielle as a mysterious character; I wouldn't want to see her all the time. And I just don't think she's a viable romantic option for Sayid (or anyone)--at least until after she has some quality therapy time with Libby. :)

In the episodes during the first season with Sayid and Danielle, you could see how she got more in touch with reality instead of haunted by the past when Sayid was with her and talkiing to her. I think her mental state is because she has been alone on the island for so long trying to survive and prevent being killed by "The Others".

She has been subject to the voices on the island as well as the loss of her child. The woman needs some TLC and she will be fine.

Sayid understands her pain because of his loss of Nadia. I think they would make a great match! Both of them are extremely intelligent and share the experience of loss of a loved one. :)

I think they would make a great match! Both of them are extremely intelligent and share the experience of loss of a loved one.

But it takes more than intelligence and shared experience to make a romantic relationship. For all Sayid feels sorry for Rousseau, he is rather afraid of her -- and rightly so, because she's crazy (which he acknowledges).

But it takes more than intelligence and shared experience to make a romantic relationship. For all Sayid feels sorry for Rousseau, he is rather afraid of her -- and rightly so, because she's crazy (which he acknowledges).

Well I knew I was in the minority on this one. That's o.k.

The word "crazy" can certainly describe some of her behavior but has no clinical significance. She is suffering from a the loss of people she loved, her child and husband, and those she probably cared about, her colleagues. She has also had a very stressful experience having lived on the island for the last 16 years alone trying to survive.

Relationships can begin as a result of many things whether it is you felt sorry for someone or because you wanted information from them which clearly Sayid did. It appears that Danielle was perfectly normal and brilliant prior to her experiences on the island...at least we have no information to the contrary. She was able to harness the power of the water of the ocean for electricity. She has been able to find the means of shelter and a source of food and water to survive.

Being a human being and alive she has the ability to get well and return to the person she was before her loss and isolation on the island. Since we are watching a fictional television program, that can recovery can take place from one episode to another or even in the same episode. :)

My only point is that I would like to see them together. I would like to see the writers bring Danielle more into the story. I think she would be a great hook up with Sayid considering he is one of the most empathetic characters on the show and they both have suffered the loss of people they loved.

That being said....I don't have to convince anyone else regarding my opinion. I know I am in the minority here but then who said this was a contest subject to a vote? I appreciate all your opinions. On this issue I have expressed mine. :)

I like Libby. They could hook up.

But it takes more than intelligence and shared experience to make a romantic relationship. For all Sayid feels sorry for Rousseau, he is rather afraid of her -- and rightly so, because she's crazy (which he acknowledges).

I agree that Sayid and Danielle just couldnt work, because Sayid acknowledges that she is "crazy", which is understandable for being on an island for 16 years.

Well I guess we will just have to see what happens. :smile:

Well I knew I was in the minority on this one. That's o.k.

You would be surprised. :) Once upon a time, there were almost no Shayid supporters in this forum (ah, the good old days...[just kidding, guys!]). Perhaps you will inspire other, hmm, Sousseau?? fans to come into the light.


The word "crazy" can certainly describe some of her behavior but has no clinical significance. She is suffering from a the loss of people she loved, her child and husband, and those she probably cared about, her colleagues. She has also had a very stressful experience having lived on the island for the last 16 years alone trying to survive.

This is all true, BUT the fact is that Danielle actually killed her team, including her lover. All of which was before losing her baby and the sixteen years of isolation (btw: how unlucky is Danielle? She didn't see one other person until Sayid, even though it turns out Craphole Island has a population approximately equal to that of Denver). Until we know for sure that there IS a sickness--one that is both deadly and has unmistakable physical symptoms--I think we, and certainly Sayid, need to assume that she is dangerously unstable.



Being a human being and alive she has the ability to get well and return to the person she was before her loss and isolation on the island. Since we are watching a fictional television program, that can recovery can take place from one episode to another or even in the same episode. :)

But isn't it more interesting to see recovery (or for that matter, breakdowns) to be drawn out and follow organically?

My only point is that I would like to see them together. I would like to see the writers bring Danielle more into the story. I think she would be a great hook up with Sayid considering he is one of the most empathetic characters on the show and they both have suffered the loss of people they loved.

That being said....I don't have to convince anyone else regarding my opinion. I know I am in the minority here but then who said this was a contest subject to a vote? I appreciate all your opinions. On this issue I have expressed mine. :)

And you have made some good points.

BTW, I bumped an earlier topic for you, about Danielle/Sayid and the parallels to Sayid/Nadia. It also got a little into whether Danielle and Sayid may have met before the island.

You would be surprised. :) Once upon a time, there were almost no Shayid supporters in this forum (ah, the good old days...[just kidding, guys!]). Perhaps you will inspire other, hmm, Sousseau?? fans to come into the light.

This is all true, BUT the fact is that Danielle actually killed her team, including her lover. All of which was before losing her baby and the sixteen years of isolation (btw: how unlucky is Danielle? She didn't see one other person until Sayid, even though it turns out Craphole Island has a population approximately equal to that of Denver). Until we know for sure that there IS a sickness--one that is both deadly and has unmistakable physical symptoms--I think we, and certainly Sayid, need to assume that she is dangerously unstable.


I don't know why there are not more fans who love Sayid. Maybe it's because of his character, an Iraqi terrorist. Or maybe it is because he has darker skin than the other actors.

I love Naveen Andrews and his portrayal of Sayid. He plays Sayid as a very intelligent, well-educated, caring, introspective, reflective, romantic, empathetic and even poetic man. Naveen is actually British born and was educated in England. In my mind he is so sexy...*pant!*. I think he is far sexier than Jack or Sawyer but then that is my personal preference. :biggrin:

Are you saying Danielle killed her team and her lover because they were "sick"? Was that clearly established last season? I thought her team became one of the "Others" and are wandering about island acting like zombies....killer zombies no less. LOL!

I don't know why there are not more fans who love Sayid. Maybe it's because of his character, an Iraqi terrorist. Or maybe it is because he has darker skin than the other actors.

Sayid was/is NOT a terrorist. He WAS a member of the Iraqi Republican Guard. He infiltrated a terrorist group at the behest of the Austrailian and US intelligence in order to obtain information on the whereabouts of Nadia, whom he had been searching for.


And any lack of fans for Sayid is probably due to the lack of a storyline at the moment and has NOTHING to do with the color of his skin. In fact, NA has stated in interviews how pleased he is with the reception this character has gotten in the U.S., especially since we are in a war in Iraq.

I love Naveen Andrews and his portrayal of Sayid. He plays Sayid as a very intelligent, well-educated, caring, introspective, reflective, romantic, empathetic and even poetic man. Naveen is actually British born and was educated in England. In my mind he is so sexy...*pant!*. I think he is far sexier than Jack or Sawyer but then that is my personal preference. :biggrin:

No argument from me on that one. No sireebob. NA lives here now though, and has really rejected all things British.

Are you saying Danielle killed her team and her lover because they were "sick"? Was that clearly established last season? I thought her team became one of the "Others" and are wandering about island acting like zombies....killer zombies no less. LOL!

She killed them. She killed them all. Really. They aren't zombies. They're dead.

Because if Sawyer can get away from Kate and Ana-Lucia, he would be great with Claire. ;)
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sayid was/is NOT a terrorist. He WAS a member of the Iraqi Republican Guard. He infiltrated a terrorist group at the behest of the Austrailian and US intelligence in order to obtain information on the whereabouts of Nadia, whom he had been searching for.

...And any lack of fans for Sayid is probably due to the lack of a storyline at the moment and has NOTHING to do with the color of his skin. In fact, NA has stated in interviews how pleased he is with the reception this character has gotten in the U.S., especially since we are in a war in Iraq.....

.... NA lives here now though, and has really rejected all things British.

I don't know whether Naveen "rejects" all things British as much as he likes living in the U.S. and has had a long term relationship with Barbara Hershey which appears to be working for both of them. :)



There are many people who would equate being a member of the Iraqi Republican Guard, an interrogator who used torture on those he interrogated and the infiltration of a terrorist group with being a terrorist. I won't quibble with you on this point. What is one person's "terrorist" or "guerilla" is another person's "freedom fighter".

I have read Naveen's interviews and I agree with you he is pleased at the reception his character has received in the U.S. He has also said he felt the writers of Lost were rather courageous to create the character of Sayid with his back story as a member of the Iraqi Republican Guard given America's experience with 9/11.

Whether his lack of fans has to do with his character and/or the color of his skin or BOTH, is a matter of interpretation. My interpretation is that it has to do with BOTH given the state of human relations in America now.

I don't know whether Naveen "rejects" all things British as much as he likes living in the U.S. and has had a long term relationship with Barbara Hershey which appears to be working for both of them. :)

In the end, you and I are on the same side. We both like Naveen. He is a great actor evidenced by his Emmy-award nomination for his portrayal of Sayid on Lost.

For me it appears for some reason emotions run high whenever people talk about Sayid and/or Ana Lucia because their characters are controversial and they are not WASPs. In London, England for example, Londoners are far more use to have a multi-cultural society. I live on the west coast of the U.S. where we have the founder of the Minutemen, a civilian paramilitary group policing the border between Mexico and California, running for political office. So my experience appears to me to be far different than yours regarding race relations.:)

For me it appears for some reason emotions run high whenever people talk about Sayid and/or Ana Lucia because their characters are controversial and they are not WASPs.

What does that have to do with it - them not being WASP's???

I think Sayid is a wonderful character. And actually I like Ana-Lucia. I liked her better though in the bar with Jack then when she was kicking the :censored: out of Sawyer. But she does have potential.

My like or dislike has nothing to do with the color of skin and/or race. I really like all of the characters. My faves are Locke/Hurley/Sawyer, but I do think Jin & Sun are great...gotta love Rose, Sayid is wonderful, etc. Michael grew on me recently with how much he truly loves his son. So in reality, all those characters cover so much of the variety of different races on the show. And I like them all!

What does that have to do with it - them not being WASP's???


O.K. No problem. I have expressed my personal opinion of what it has to do with it. You have expressed yours. Let's just decide we agree to disagree. :smile:

O.K. No problem. I have expressed my personal opinion of what it has to do with it. You have expressed yours. Let's just decide we agree to disagree. :smile:

Decided :)

For me it appears for some reason emotions run high whenever people talk about Sayid and/or Ana Lucia because their characters are controversial and they are not WASPs. In London, England for example, Londoners are far more use to have a multi-cultural society. I live on the west coast of the U.S. where we have the founder of the Minutemen, a civilian paramilitary group policing the border between Mexico and California, running for political office. So my experience appears to me to be far different than yours regarding race relations.:)

Yes, evidently very different. Surprising to me since I come from the midwest, live in a very conservative community, and most of my friends are WASPs. None of them have a problem with people of color. There are many people of various backgrounds in our community, including a rather large Mexican-American community which has developed in the last few years. And gee, we all get along.

I don't find Sayid's character to be controversial. Yes, he was a torturer, but he obviously carries a great deal of remorse and guilt for his actions. If he were unrepentant...THAT would be controversial. I don't know any one who watches Lost who doesn't like Sayid. The people I know who don't like AnaLucia,(so far) don't like her because she is a brash, abrasive, and bossy character (or because she slugged Sawyer:biggrin: ) ...not because she's hispanic.

And, not to be argumentative...(but I do like a good debate!) in one interview I read with NA he said that while England claims to be a multi-cultural society, people of color are looked down upon there much more than here in the U.S, and have fewer chances for advancement. He may have a better perspective on that than either of us. I don't know about you...but I'm as white as they come.

Totally agree with you Whoknowswhy!! And I'm as white as they come too! I love all the characters. I think they are all great! And all have different backgrounds and races. It doesn't matter to me what color of their skin is or religion or belief. I judge people on an individual basis.

I agree, like I said in my post. I thought Ana-Lucia was great when she first met up with Jack in the airport. I saw a potential there - definetly. I'm just mad at her cause she keeps beating up on Sawyer. But I think she will definetly warm up once she gets to know everyone and when she meets up with Jack again. Those tail-enders definetly had it rougher than our normal crew...so I think that is why she is acting the way she does. People handle stress differently. Look ad Eko and Bernard & Libby. They are calmer.

That is why I said I don't think it has anything to do with being a WASP or not.

There are many people who would equate being a member of the Iraqi Republican Guard, an interrogator who used torture on those he interrogated and the infiltration of a terrorist group with being a terrorist. I won't quibble with you on this point. What is one person's "terrorist" or "guerilla" is another person's "freedom fighter".

While I agree with your last line, I still don't think that Sayid qualifies as a terrorist. He was a member of the official army of his state; that seems to contradict the definition of "terrorism" as "violence used by groups to coerce a government or population to fulfill their demands." (It seems to me there's a distinction between regimes that are built on terror and murder--of which there are many--and actual terrorism.)

Still, he committed horrible crimes. But I doubt that would explain his unpopularity on a show on which Sawyer, arguably the most popular character, is a cold-blooded killer...not to even mention all the crimes committed by other castaways (Kate's unnamed crime; Charlie's theft, drug use, and killing of Ethan; and so on).


Whether his lack of fans has to do with his character and/or the color of his skin or BOTH, is a matter of interpretation. My interpretation is that it has to do with BOTH given the state of human relations in America now. ...For me it appears for some reason emotions run high whenever people talk about Sayid and/or Ana Lucia because their characters are controversial and they are not WASPs. In London, England for example, Londoners are far more use to have a multi-cultural society. I live on the west coast of the U.S. where we have the founder of the Minutemen, a civilian paramilitary group policing the border between Mexico and California, running for political office. So my experience appears to me to be far different than yours regarding race relations.:)

I disagree with you, but more important, I hope you're wrong. :undecide: Almost half the cast are non-WASPs--Sayid, Michael, Walt, Sun, Jin, Rose, Eko, Ana--and several of those are very well liked (Sun, Rose, maybe Eko--it's a little soon to tell for him). Hopefully it's less a question of who is white vs. who is mean enough to step on Sawyer's hurt should. ;)

IMO, Sayid's unpopularity (or lack of popularity--are there a lot of people who actively dislike him? :() has two sources. One, as WKW said, is his lack of screentime, especially this season.

But the other is that he's a hard character to categorize. For example, if you like Bad Boys With Hearts of Gold, Sawyer is a prime specimen of the breed. If you are generally a fan of Noble but Flawed Heroes, there is Jack, about as noble and heroic (but interestingly flawed) as you can get.

Sayid isn't as easy to fit into an archetype. He has an evil past that he obviously regrets--but he's still capable of violence in the present (or at least was when he tortured Sawyer). But he isn't a typical anti-hero either; he's too soft-hearted, courteous, helpful, and chivalric. He isn't easy to pin down.

No one's race was ever a factor for me while watching Lost, other than I think it's terrific that they have such an amazingly talented, ethnically and culturally diverse cast.

Sayid isn't as easy to fit into an archetype. He has an evil past that he obviously regrets--but he's still capable of violence in the present (or at least was when he tortured Sawyer). But he isn't a typical anti-hero either; he's too soft-hearted, courteous, helpful, and chivalric. He isn't easy to pin down.

You just put your finger on what I like about Sayid. He's atypical, and genuinely human. He has a very dark past, but he can be a very sweet, passionate, loving character in the present (though I prefer not to think about him torturing Sawyer).

I can't believe he's unpopular: Sayid is certainly a favorite in my house. My brother likes his technical knowledge (though he is frightened by his past, just as I am), I like him as a kind, helpful, caring person, and my stepmom, just a casual watcher of the show who just happens to always be in the room when it's on, likes his looks (so do I, but that is neither here nor there).

About AnaLucia, I liked her in the bar scene with Jack, but she's turned out to be ruthless and angry and just...mean. So I don't like her at all any more. It's not because she's hispanic, but because I don't like the person she turned out to be...Or at least became, after the crash. She's got a huge chip on her shoulder, and I don't like how she beats up on Sawyer at all. I do admit, there have been times when I've wished someone would hit him, but there's no call for her to be standing on his shoulder, or making such a huge deal of carrying him back.

Poor Sayid
:crybaby: :down: :msn-cry: :crying: :bawling: :unhappy:

:rip: Shannon

You just put your finger on what I like about Sayid. He's atypical, and genuinely human. He has a very dark past, but he can be a very sweet, passionate, loving character in the present (though I prefer not to think about him torturing Sawyer).

Word to all.

I can't believe he's unpopular: Sayid is certainly a favorite in my house. My brother likes his technical knowledge (though he is frightened by his past, just as I am), I like him as a kind, helpful, caring person, and my stepmom, just a casual watcher of the show who just happens to always be in the room when it's on, likes his looks (so do I, but that is neither here nor there).

My friends and acquaintances seem to like him, too, but I guess there's no denying he doesn't have a Sawyerlike fanbase. :(

No one! :-)


He's in mourning for Shannon, and perhaps Nadia as well.
I think he's got enough to think about already.

No one! :-)


He's in mourning for Shannon, and perhaps Nadia as well.
I think he's got enough to think about already.

Well, that's true for now--and the near future. But I would hope that someday he recovers enough to be ready for another relationship, poor boy. :( (Should he live so long.)

he may not be ready for another relationship for a while- but if he does ever meet up with Nadia again, then he would probably be happy with her.

Well, that's true for now--and the near future. But I would hope tha tsomeday he recovers enough to be ready for another relationship, poor boy. :( (Should he live so long.)

Should he LIVE SO LONG?! EEP! *Refuses to think about Sayid being dead*

But other than that, I agree. I think that there's no one on craphole island that is really well-suited for him, but if they ever get off that place, then I'm sure he'll be one of the first in line to find the perfect person for him. I sure hope it happens. The poor guy has had enough sadness in his life.

While I agree with your last line, I still don't think that Sayid qualifies as a terrorist. He was a member of the official army of his state; that seems to contradict the definition of "terrorism"

Still, he committed horrible crimes. IMO, Sayid's unpopularity (or lack of popularity--are there a lot of people who actively dislike him? :() has two sources. One, as WKW said, is his lack of screentime, especially this season.

But the other is that he's a hard character to categorize.

Sayid isn't as easy to fit into an archetype. He has an evil past that he obviously regrets--but he's still capable of violence in the present (or at least was when he tortured Sawyer). But he isn't a typical anti-hero either; he's too soft-hearted, courteous, helpful, and chivalric. He isn't easy to pin down.


On the question of Sayid as a controversial/ambiguous character:

As a pacifist I am particularly intrigued by the conundrum posed by Sayid.

As with any soldier, Sayid's violence as a member of the Iraqi regime is socially sanctioned. From the point of view of his society, he's a "good guy" doing his job in a brave and honorable way.

The murder of Omar and the release of the prisoner Nadia are quite different. It is obvious that these actions constitute both state treason and personal treachery (because Omar was a friend and/or relative). From the point of view of his society, Sayid would be deserving of death.

But from OUR point of view, Sayid's switching sides and murdering his superior officer are acceptable, even admirable, because Omar, the RG and the prison represented, in our view, the "enemy," which we know to be an evil tyranny. It's what OUR soldiers might have done if they'd stepped into the prison.

Therefore, all of Sayid's crimes are socially sanctioned--BUT THEY ARE NOT SOCIALLY SANCTIONED BY THE SAME PEOPLE. Either his work in the RG is despicable and the freeing of Nadia/killing of Omar are heroic--or vice versa.

Sayid's standing is different from that of either Kate (reckless and violent bank robbery; selfishly and carelessly getting her love killed in her escape attempt; unspecified original crime) or Sawyer (premeditated Murder One, no way around it, and no escape from life/many years in prison if justice were to be served--not to mention the life of cons). Kate and Sawyer, and conning Charlie for that matter, are social deviants from the point of view of their own societies. Sayid, in contrast, is a violent and conflicted man caught between two different worldviews.

he may not be ready for another relationship for a while- but if he does ever meet up with Nadia again, then he would probably be happy with her.

Assuming she isn't one of the evil Dharma Overlords.

Should he LIVE SO LONG?! EEP! *Refuses to think about Sayid being dead*

Apparently you have to watch your back on Mystery Island. :(


On the question of Sayid as a controversial/ambiguous character:

As a pacifist I am particularly intrigued by the conundrum posed by Sayid.

LMM, this raises some fascinating issues--you really should do a main post on this.

. Sayid, in contrast, is a violent and conflicted man caught between two different worldviews.

Great insight.

Sayid, in contrast, is a violent and conflicted man caught between two different worldviews.

This SHOULD have it's own post.

Back to the original subject of this thread though. While I don't see Sayid "hooking-up" with anyone for awhile, I would not be opposed to things developing between him and Claire (if she kicks Charlie out like she should!) or him and Libby. Both of these women seem like they would be able to help him work through his grief over Shannon and not be pushy or put off by that.

Whatever develops needs to develop slowly. IMHO.

I don't think he should hook up with anyone else....

Back to the original subject of this thread though. While I don't see Sayid "hooking-up" with anyone for awhile, I would not be opposed to things developing between him and Claire (if she kicks Charlie out like she should!) or him and Libby. Both of these women seem like they would be able to help him work through his grief over Shannon and not be pushy or put off by that.

Whatever develops needs to develop slowly. IMHO.

The more I think about it, the more I can see Sayid with Claire. People underestimate her, I think. But I also really want to see him interact with Libby--not only is she similar to him in age and education, her background makes for an interesting contrast. Both she and Sayid are trained in getting people to give up information, although for very different purposes....

I don't think he should hook up with anyone else....

As MDLB says, it needs to be slow. Certainly he'll need time to heal--I'd be surprised if he has any interest in another woman this season. But if the show is going to run for another three or four seasons, I hope the poor guy isn't going to be lonely all that time.

The more I think about it, the more I can see Sayid with Claire. People underestimate her, I think.

I agree. I'd like to see her get out from under Charlie and I think she would be good for Sayid. Her sweetness could balance out his darker side.

But I also really want to see him interact with Libby--not only is she similar to him in age and education, her background makes for an interesting contrast. Both she and Sayid are trained in getting people to give up information, although for very different purposes....

You know I like the idea of Sayid and Libby but I hadn't thought of it that way. You are very right. Sayid's job was to extract information to help the RG, Libby's job is to extract information to help the person giving it. Sayid may have the tables turned on him here. I hope they get some screen time together.

And I agree...it needs to happen slowly, whoever it's with. But the man deserves some comfort and love at some point!!!

I should stop making predictions because I'm always wrong.

But IF the "Michael and Sayid head out in search of Walt" scenario plays out, there was some speculation among us whether there would be a third person in the merry band and who it would be.

Is it possible that Libby knows something about parapsychology/projection/ghost visions etc.? That would certainly help to balance the skill set. And if she's outdoorsy she might have some basic tracking skills, a la Kate? Sayid, Michael and Libby would make for a really weird and interesting group.

Sayid, Michael and Libby would make for a really weird and interesting group.

That would be interesting, but she doesn't seem to be particularly skilled in tracking or the paranormal. I COULD see her going along because of her concern for the kids that were taken from the Tailies camp. She's expressed worry over them several times and may figure that if they find Walt, they'll find them, too. So...same scenerio...good thoughts LostMyMarbles (love your name!)

Does anyone think.... Sayid and Ana Lucia? AH! *runs away from bullets* Ok... Maybe not but it would be werid. I don't like her much, but what if it would happen? I mean, maybe it would be good! *runs away from rotten tomatoes* OK!

TPTB actually said that Ana Lucia will have relationships but the one that develops over the course of the season is the one that you would least expect. To me...that screams Sayid.

Is it possible that Libby knows something about parapsychology/projection/ghost visions etc.? That would certainly help to balance the skill set. And if she's outdoorsy she might have some basic tracking skills, a la Kate? Sayid, Michael and Libby would make for a really weird and interesting group.

That would be interesting, but she doesn't seem to be particularly skilled in tracking or the paranormal. I COULD see her going along because of her concern for the kids that were taken from the Tailies camp. She's expressed worry over them several times and may figure that if they find Walt, they'll find them, too. So...same scenerio...good thoughts LostMyMarbles (love your name!)

Very possible--Libby and AL are both very worried about the kids. Obviously AL won't be invited to go off to the see the wizard, but that doesn't mean she won't want to. Libby could play peacemaker and go in her stead. Also, Michael and Libby seemed to make a connection; she'd want to help him.

Does anyone think.... Sayid and Ana Lucia? AH! *runs away from bullets* Ok... Maybe not but it would be werid. I don't like her much, but what if it would happen? I mean, maybe it would be good! *runs away from rotten tomatoes* OK!

We're way ahead of you, kid. ;) No tomatoes this time. :tomato:

TPTB actually said that Ana Lucia will have relationships but the one that develops over the course of the season is the one that you would least expect. To me...that screams Sayid.

Whoa... That sorta sux! I mean really! But maybe they would make a good couple. Something happens tonight that will blow your mind about her. Maybe she has a heart. (I know!)

I wonder if Nadya ever found out that Sayid was on his way to go find her????? And if she ever thought of him.... I think they should make an episode showing what the losties family and friends are doing.....What do you guys think?????

I say, let the body cool first. :rolleyes: ;)

Yeah, what you said. I don't think Sayid is ready to hook up with anyone for a long time, least of all Ana Lucia.

Seems like... Well, I'm just an idiot and things I say NEVER happen... usually. But if this were to happen, I'd come in to every board and shout "BURN! I TOLD-U-SO!"
But here it is:
Kate gets close to someone on the island, and it's not Sawyer. There's supposed to be a make out scene, and thinking her epi is next epi... meaning episode 9: what kate did, and that she's sitting next to the graves by Sayid looking half dead, makes me think they're going to get together.
Not going to happen, but worth a shot. I've said it before, but i just want to post for the record, because if i'm right HAHAHA! j/k ;)

Both Claire and Sun are no-nos. They are taken. Even though it is not official yet, Claire and Charlie belong together. As do Jin and Sun. I think Ana Lucia b/c they both seem to have that sadistic edge to them.

I think Ana Lucia b/c they both seem to have that sadistic edge to them.

They are both deeply wounded, maybe more so than anyone else on the island. And...like it or not...(I can't believe I'm saying this) their scenes together were smoking hot. Chemistry to burn. Ewww. But..undeniably there.

Seems like... Well, I'm just an idiot and things I say NEVER happen... usually. But if this were to happen, I'd come in to every board and shout "BURN! I TOLD-U-SO!"

Well...

In one of next week's previews, it shows Kate kissing Jack. So there. (And what a massive surprise that will be!)

I think Ana Lucia b/c they both seem to have that sadistic edge to them.

I don't think I've seen a sadistic edge to Sayid. He has been capable of doing very cruel things, but he's never enjoyed it.

They are both deeply wounded, maybe more so than anyone else on the island. And...like it or not...(I can't believe I'm saying this) their scenes together were smoking hot. Chemistry to burn. Ewww. But..undeniably there.

Oh, good. I was afraid WKW and I were the only ones who had seen the highly inappropriate and very very wrong chemistry.

BTW, Dog--I saw your movie last night. :) Very good, even if they cut my favorite line.

Yeah, I saw her kissing... Well... Jack
After I posted that... Once again, I'm wrong. Bam...

Oh, good. I was afraid WKW and I were the only ones who had seen the highly inappropriate and very very wrong chemistry.

BTW, Dog--I saw your movie last night. Very good, even if they cut my favorite line.



Oh, we are not alone. At my office everyone who watches Lost was talking about it. My friend insists Naveen has that chemistry with everyone and I said sorry, but he and Maggie NEVER smoked like that. Highly inappropriate is right. But if it involves smoldering looks from Naveen who am I to complain?

We saw Rent Thanksgiving night. Left the kiddos at Grandma's. What's your favorite line? I was so enthralled I didn't notice anything missing. Jesse L. Martin. Sigh. Taye Diggs. Sigh. PM me and let me know.

Oh, we are not alone. At my office everyone who watches Lost was talking about it. My friend insists Naveen has that chemistry with everyone and I said sorry, but he and Maggie NEVER smoked like that. Highly inappropriate is right.

Naveen has chemistry with everyone (at least that I've seen), and I never thought that chemistry was the problem with S&S, but this was different. S&S was sweeter;S/AL was blazingly (and so very inappropriately) sexual.

I thought the speculation about Sayid/A-Lu was pretty out of left field before I saw this ep, but now...I can sort of see TPTB being willing to go there. I can't, however, see any credible way that they could GET there, and it kind of ticks me off that they wrote themselves into this corner, especially since Jack/AL don't have anything like the same kind of spark.

But if it involves smoldering looks from Naveen who am I to complain?


Who indeed? :biggrin:

Yeah...you know I have to fall in line here and say that I was really shocked by the obvious chemistry this week between Ana and Sayid. I still haven't become a fan of hers...so logically I don't really want him to have anything to do with her. However, logic didn't really figure into the sexual tension between them last week.

IF Ana evolves a little more...and I can get past wanting to throw rocks at her head ;)...there's definitely something they COULD explore between her and Sayid.

Yeah...you know I have to fall in line here and say that I was really shocked by the obvious chemistry this week between Ana and Sayid. I still haven't become a fan of hers...so logically I don't really want him to have anything to do with her. However, logic didn't really figure into the sexual tension between them last week.

IF Ana evolves a little more...and I can get past wanting to throw rocks at her head ;)...there's definitely something they COULD explore between her and Sayid.

But how could they credibly explore it? I am usually the first one to climb on the bandwagon for hopeless, doomed causes, but there is wrong and there is outright wrong, and Sayana falls in the latter category.

But how could they credibly explore it? I am usually the first one to climb on the bandwagon for hopeless, doomed causes, but there is wrong and there is outright wrong, and Sayana falls in the latter category.

Not necessarily. I am playing Devil's Advocate here (always dangerous, I know). I am NOT shipping this couple in any way shape or form...but I do think there are credible ways, over the course of the season, or longer, that they could develop Ana's character and her interactions with Sayid to make this a plausible and less...nauseating possibility.

There are many parallels between these two and I think the sparks come from recognizing that in each other.

I think probably any of the above choices would be better than Shannon.

Not necessarily. I am playing Devil's Advocate here (always dangerous, I know). I am NOT shipping this couple in any way shape or form...but I do think there are credible ways, over the course of the season, or longer, that they could develop Ana's character and her interactions with Sayid to make this a plausible and less...nauseating possibility.

There are many parallels between these two and I think the sparks come from recognizing that in each other.

You are always playing devil :devil2: , young lady.

Okay, I have thought this over and I have three words:

Buffy. And. Spike.

Discuss.

Not necessarily. I am playing Devil's Advocate here (always dangerous, I know). I am NOT shipping this couple in any way shape or form...but I do think there are credible ways, over the course of the season, or longer, that they could develop Ana's character and her interactions with Sayid to make this a plausible and less...nauseating possibility.

There are many parallels between these two and I think the sparks come from recognizing that in each other.

I am agreeing on you with the point about AL and Sayid hooking up.Especially in light of what DL and Carlton Cuse said about the pair in the latest official podcast.

I am agreeing on you with the point about AL and Sayid hooking up.Especially in light of what DL and Carlton Cuse said about the pair in the latest official podcast.


For those of us who missed the podcast (and subsequent discussion, lol)... what was said??? Desperate minds need to know!!!


Kitten.

For those of us who missed the podcast (and subsequent discussion, lol)... what was said??? Desperate minds need to know!!!


Kitten.


From the Lost Podcast: The Sayid/Ana Lucia relationship will be something that will carry foward in the upcoming episodes in ways that are different than people might think. They probably have more in common than "I killed the woman you loved."

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While I don't see Sayid "hooking-up" with anyone for awhile, .....things developing between him and Claire (if she kicks Charlie out like she should!) or him and Libby. Both of these women seem like they would be able to help him work through his grief over Shannon and not be pushy or put off by that.

Whatever develops needs to develop slowly....

Sayid does not appear to be a person who is impulsive. In fact he does not have enough will to live to be impulsive or rush to anything. He told Ana Lucia he felt "dead". He is emotionally tortured and still has nightmares of the men he killed and tortured. On top of that Shannon, the one person who he felt some degree of happiness, is dead. If anyone can help him through this grieving process it's Libby. After all...she is a psychologist and appears to be a rather sensitive, empathetic and intelligent woman. She is also quite pretty if she was only able to take a bath and wash her hair. :smile:

Princess ArwenIf anyone can help him through this grieving process it's Libby. After all...she is a psychologist and appears to be a rather sensitive, empathetic and intelligent woman. She is also quite pretty if she was only able to take a bath and wash her hair. :smile:

LOL! The actress said in TV Guide that she can't wait to take a shower in the hatch.

Here's a transcription of the podcast from the Spoilers thread...

CC: Oh, I will say this, though – I think the Sayid/Ana-Lucia relationship is also something which is really important going forward. Obviously there are some intense emotions that are coming out of this episode between those two characters. And I think that will carry forward into the upcoming episodes in ways that maybe are different than people might think.

DL: They’d probably have a lot in common if not for the “I killed the woman you loved” part.

CC: Right.

Hmmm.

After all...she is a psychologist and appears to be a rather sensitive, empathetic and intelligent woman. She is also quite pretty if she was only able to take a bath and wash her hair.

Good description...although of course she might be all those things, plus evil. It's hard to know.

And yes, CW is very pretty when she's not covered in mud and baked in the sun. I think that when she gets cleaned up it's going to be one of those moments when the teen nerd is suddenly transformed to the prom queen: "Gasp! But she's beautiful!"

At least, I hope so.

No one wants to follow my Buffy/Spike =? Sayid/Ana train of thought? :sadwalk:

Here's a transcription of the podcast from the Spoilers thread...

CC: Oh, I will say this, though – I think the Sayid/Ana-Lucia relationship is also something which is really important going forward. Obviously there are some intense emotions that are coming out of this episode between those two characters. And I think that will carry forward into the upcoming episodes in ways that maybe are different than people might think.

DL: They’d probably have a lot in common if not for the “I killed the woman you loved” part.

CC: Right.

Hmmm.



Good description...although of course she might be all those things, plus evil. It's hard to know.

And yes, CW is very pretty when she's not covered in mud and baked in the sun. I think that when she gets cleaned up it's going to be one of those moments when the teen nerd is suddenly transformed to the prom queen: "Gasp! But she's beautiful!"

At least, I hope so.

No one wants to follow my Buffy/Spike =? Sayid/Ana train of thought? :sadwalk:

Well now that you mention it Sayid and Ana Lucia have a lot in common having been left devastated as a result of things they did in the past...killing innocent people for example. The problem is they are so down...they need something to bring them up to the light of life. Now I can see a story line where they both learn to enjoy the simple things in life and learn to forgive themselves for their past deeds. That would certainly be profound. It has possibilities.

Okay, I am bumping this simply because I want SOMEONE to pick up on Cassandra's Sayid/Ana =Buffy/Spike comparison. I am not worthy as I am only now (hangs head in shame) after much prompting from purple_goose, watching season 2 of Buffy. So.....until I know more I will be silent and hope that others might enlighten me.

Oh...and this may not be the place, but is anyone besides me going HUH? over the idea of Libby and Hurley??? I am consoling myself with the thought that Sayid just isn't ready for her yet.

Danielle would be perfect
They seem to understand each other
And they have lost people they love
I cant believe people said AL
If Sayid hooked up with her it would be a disgrace i know it was an accident but the fact is AL killed Shannon
If she killed my girlfriend i would rather kill her than go off with her.
It would be disrespectful to Shannon Rutherford.

I'm with you. Hurley/Libby is much weirder than Sayid/Shannon. It'll be interesting to see where it goes.

Danielle would be perfect
They seem to understand each other
And they have lost people they love
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One MINOR problem...Danielle is nuts. Cuckoo. Out of her mind. And beyond even Libby's help, I fear. Sayid needs someone sane and balanced. Or as sane and balanced as is possible there.

Anna and Sayid, then maybe in a galaxcy far far a way maybe him and kate..

If Nadia ends up on this island, I will piss myself. It could happen too.

If Nadia ends up on this island, I will piss myself. It could happen too.

But if she does, it would almost certainly mean she is involved with Dharma. Sayid wouldn't be too happy to learn she's on the side of the people who've toyed with the Lostaways' lives (including his and Shannon's).

It WOULD be an interesting development.

But if she does, it would almost certainly mean she is involved with Dharma. Sayid wouldn't be too happy to learn she's on the side of the people who've toyed with the Lostaways' lives (including his and Shannon's).

It WOULD be an interesting development.

She might have become involved unintentionally though. Sayid's feelings would be different were that the case. She could be as much a victim of manipulation as all of them. And, she is his true love, the one he was searching for for seven years.

as for the buffy/spike and ana lucia/sayid line of query...spike never killed anyone that buffy loved; he was always out to impress/woo her, even when he hated her. they are one of my all time favorite tv couples, for sure!

And, she is his true love, the one he was searching for for seven years.

Sorry, wkw, we have the same source that Nadia is Sayid's true love as we have that his and Shannon's was a great love: the writers. Not buying it. Not yet.

I'm still looking for a set of car keys that I lost the year my son was born. He's seven now. I don't love those keys but life would be easier if could locate them.;)

Sayid and Shannon are a couple, but who else could make a love connection with Sayid?

I think Sayid and Sun would be a nice pairing.

Sayid & Sun!?!?! She's married!

Unless... but then I get to have Jin, ok? :biggrin:

Anyways.. I really didn't know who to vote for, so outta process of elimination I ended up with Libby.

as for the buffy/spike and ana lucia/sayid line of query...spike never killed anyone that buffy loved...!

It wasn't for lack of trying. :) (They're one of my favorites, too. Which is why I can't totally turn against SayAna--although the point may be moot in any case.)

even if they don't fall in love, there could definitely be some good sparks/fights between them a la buffy and spike...but sayid is trying to turn his life around, move away from the torturing, hostile soldier he once was? too bad, that could be an interesting tension.

danielle but i accidently clicked libby

Why are there just the women in the poll options? :biggrin:
I go with Scott, so he will have more screentime ;)

How about this, Sayid and one of the others, eh? BTW are there any female others?

I think there are--There was a woman on the seabillies' boat...she tossed the jar of gasoline or whatever onto the raft after they took Walt.

But I don't like the kidnapper-ish habits of the Others, so I hope Sayid doesn't fall in love with one of them.

I still see Sayid as a loner after Shannon. I dunno why some are so eager to set him up with another partner so soon after her death. He's got a lot of grief/survivor's guilt to work through and it'll be a while (if ever) before he's ready to hook up with someone else.

The poor man has the worst luck in love of anyone else on LOST.

Nadia (who wasn't a choice) is the only woman I'd be interested in seeing him with at this point.

Personally, I believe Sayid will, sadly...be the "loner" of the island due to Shannon's death. :frown:

It would look kind of weird, don't ask me how, but I think that other than Shannon, if he absolutely had to, he would choose Danielle. But honestly, I think he would be single until way after he gets off the island. And that's only if he gets off the island to begin with.

Blue Coral, all I have to say to that is...who would have ever thought that he would hook up with Shannon? Not me, that's for sure. Lots of things can happen on this show. I don't think any of the women are so farfetched that it wouldn't be possible, under certain circumstances.

That said, I do think Sayid will choose to be alone for awhile, but I don't think it will be forever.

Blue Coral, all I have to say to that is...who would have ever thought that he would hook up with Shannon? Not me, that's for sure. Lots of things can happen on this show. I don't think any of the women are so farfetched that it wouldn't be possible, under certain circumstances.

That said, I do think Sayid will choose to be alone for awhile, but I don't think it will be forever.

I agree with you 100%.

I think he will be alone for awhile, but I would like to see him with Ana. That would be an interesting couple. There both dead inside, why not come alive together

I think Sayid would be a much better man for Kate than either Jack or Sawyer. Sayid respects her and treats her better than the two of them put together.

Anyone BUT Ana! I will not stand for that!

Him dating his ex's murderer? NOOOO!

Although Kate is in love with Sawyer (at least that's what I think), she might fall in love with Sayid too. Ah...love is in the air...:blushing:

I can't see Sayid being involved with anyone for a while. I think he would mourn Shannon , if he just jumped on top of another female so soon after Shannon's death it would call into doubt his feelings for Shannon.
The show could change and cover more time than just a few days between episodes, so it would feel more natural for him to get involved with someone else.

Hello all!

First time Sayid-forum poster here, though he has always been my fav. And for everyone's information, I don't belong to any existing "ship". So anyway, we were having the same discussion over in the spoiler forum, and though I am not for him hooking up with anyone particularly, I just can't stand the thought of Sayid being with Ana. Really. can't. So I decided to start an ANTI-SAYANA ship. This is not because I hate Ana, because I don't... but I can say that if Sayid and Ana get together, that would really be unbelieveable for me, and kind of ruin Lost for me. And that is something I never thought that I would say. So anyway, as many has said, I would just like to see him alone for awhile. After all, it has only been days since Shannon died. And you know he is feeling it deeply, from the emotion that he showed about it on OOT. And he should be more pre-occupied with the problem of "the others". And I also think that he will always have some small resentment towards Ana for pulling the trigger. So while I am semi-joking about it, I really am starting the anti-Sayana ship because I wouldn't be able to stomach that as a storyline. mju has also said that she would join the ship. Anyone else care to join?

For the record, I can't see Sayid with any of the other women... the only remote possiblity would be Cindy, if she ever returns from wherever she is....

Kate and Sayid had a lovely connection at the very beginning of the series, back when they were working on the transceiver together. I think they've kind of lost it now, however, after the Shannon and Jack/Sawyer factor.

I'd like to see Sayid with Danielle. Eventually, anyway. He definitely needs his space at the moment.

I think he wants the french chick to tie him up again... they both seem to like it rough?

I think Sayid is quite slutty. He's searching for the love of his life, Nadia, but when he spots a nice pair of legs, he is all: "Nadia who?"

I can't believe Ana got 31 votes.. thats shocking!

it has to be the french chick..

I think Sayid is quite slutty. He's searching for the love of his life, Nadia, but when he spots a nice pair of legs, he is all: "Nadia who?"

I think it was more like when he spotted a crazy French chick who had gone utterly mad because she had been alone for 16 years that he was all: "Nadia...hmmm...maybe I better stop clinging to a hope that may well never be realized and isolating myself before I end up bonkers like Rousseau."

That said, I don't like any of the suggested pairings, particularly. I would like to see him end up with Nadia before it's all over.

Yet, if I were absolutely forced to choose one of those women, I would actually go with Ana. She's really more like him than any of the others, and they have a lot in common--their background as interrogators, the guilt they feel for their past sins, their isolation from the community (though Sayid made himself connect in a way Ana still hasn't been able to), their courageous natures (though Sayid is more calculated and Ana more rash), their willingness to bear the disdain of the other survivors to do what they believe is necessary to save others; etc. I'd rather he not be with anyone else on the island, and that he find Nadia again, but if he ended up with Ana after a long, slow, gradual time of character and relationship development, I wouldn't be too put off by it.

Well if he absolutely MUST hook-up with some 1 I think it should be ANA-Lucia IF she isn't with Jack. I don't think the chemistry between Sayid and Ana-Lucia was supposed to happen I think Michelle Rodriguez and Naveen Andrews have natural chemistry. Any way Sayid and Ana would make an ok couple but as I said I would much prefer him staying alone and Ana-Lucia with Jack. GO JANA!!!

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