I got thinking after reading all about Desmond being a possible faker to the lostaways.

I'm more inclined to believe this after recalling some things Hurley told Jack.

After inventorying all the food in the Hatch, Hurley tells Jack they're was enough food to feed one man, 3 meals a day for just about a month. Hardly the kind of food stocks for a 2 man team... But maybe if he was just waiting for the lostaway's to stumble upon him it would be enough?

Well I'd say at least one way to explain the food amount was....before Desmond arrived it was one man(Calvin?) in the Hatch, waiting for 520 days or so...Then Desmond shows up, they both had to eat so more food was used....Then other Hatchman died according to Desmond, and seeing as we can't know for sure if the 500+ day have expired, but probably have, the food is of course running out....As far as anything other issues about Desmond it's hard to say, but I think the food was stocked there like 4-5 years earlier and is now gone....

So where is the next person to man the computer? Why have the Dharma scientists not been back, is it all deserted or what? Because surely if the world would end because of the button it would be in the scientists interests to make sure there is definetly someone there?

Long time reader first time poster..
My thoughts on Desmond, food, and his relief.
Desmond took off to another station, perhaps the dormatories we haven't seen yet. I would guess that there is plenty of food there. The orientation film stopped on the dorms for a few seconds, there must be dorms there must be!

We will see Desie again...not much made sense of the entire thing...out of five billion people in the world..he and Jack end up on this Island together?? Hmmmm

We know the show well enough now to know that there's no way the Desmond/Jack meeting was chance.

One thing I've wondered about is the amount of space in the pantry/commissary. It looked to me as though it was almost completely full and there wasn't room for much more food. If that's the case, it was never built for a large stockpile. It was made to be replenished every month or so. I could be wrong, it was just hard for me to tell from the camera angles exactly how large the room was.

Based on Arrow Station, you could say the experiments are long dead, and Swan station is still running on a complete fluke. But, somehting is amiss, and I tend to lean toward things on the island are EXACTLY how someone wants them to be, and that the stations may well be the way they are on purpose.

I certainly hope we find out someday. :)

Njc--------------

Someday is a long time...until then all we have is this board and our fertile imaginations...

One thing I've wondered about is the amount of space in the pantry/commissary. It looked to me as though it was almost completely full and there wasn't room for much more food. If that's the case, it was never built for a large stockpile. It was made to be replenished every month or so. I could be wrong, it was just hard for me to tell from the camera angles exactly how large the room was.

You read my mind. :smile:

One thing I've wondered about is the amount of space in the pantry/commissary. It looked to me as though it was almost completely full and there wasn't room for much more food. If that's the case, it was never built for a large stockpile. It was made to be replenished every month or so. I could be wrong, it was just hard for me to tell from the camera angles exactly how large the room was.
Exactly what I was thinking. And the fact that it was near full, means that it must have been restocked not too long ago, or Desmond isn't eating from this store room.

The latter doesn't make sense. If he isn't eating from this store room, then he's getting food from somewhere else: (hunting/fishing/gathering, other location in the swan site, other location out of swan site).

hunt/fish/gather - doesn't make sense because he would have depleted his store before resorting to this
other food within swan - never shown. Possible, but too much of a cop out by the producers if so.
other food out of swan - Desmond lives at swan, so it only makes sense he stores his food there too. The only thing I can think of is maybe he recently raided another site of its food to replenish swan's.

how did he know the crank for the back door sticks?

maybe he does go out there to fish/hunt/gather?

how did he know the crank for the back door sticks?
maybe he does go out there to fish/hunt/gather?

You read my mind. The first time I saw that episode, I thought for someone who "doesn't get out much", he seemed pretty quick to respond to Kate when she asked about a front door. It was obvious he does get out. However, I also think after months/years of being down there alone, he's worked out a pretty regular routine around a 108 minute cycle. He probably know exactly how much time he has to get out and raid another location for food/supplies.

Barb

You read my mind. The first time I saw that episode, I thought for someone who "doesn't get out much", he seemed pretty quick to respond to Kate when she asked about a front door. It was obvious he does get out. However, I also think after months/years of being down there alone, he's worked out a pretty regular routine around a 108 minute cycle. He probably know exactly how much time he has to get out and raid another location for food/supplies.

Barb

I still think that the "doesn't get out much" quote refers to the post-Kelvin's-death time frame, and that while Kelvin was still alive he got out semi-regularly. He remembers that the door stuck back then, and naturally assumes that nothing has happened to stop it from sticking since Kelvin died.

Just a theory, of course.

Ah, good point..... He probably did get out of the hatch now and again when he was with Kelvin. That might also explain why he seems to have some purpose/direction when he takes off into the jungle again at the end of Orientation.

Barb

Aside from the question - Where the heck was Desmond going? - what I noticed was that he didn't take many supplies from the pantry. It's almost as if he knew he was going somewhere that had a supply of food and drinks.

Just a clarification for your discussion:

HURLEY: Dude, there's enough food in there to feed 1 guy, 3 meals a day for another 3 months. We have 40 people, it's just not going to work. You put me in charge, this is what we're doing.

As far as Desmond getting out much, remember the struggle Kate had to turn the wheel sticks. This leads me to believe that he reallly doesn't leave at all since Kelvin died.

Just a clarification for your discussion:

HURLEY: Dude, there's enough food in there to feed 1 guy, 3 meals a day for another 3 months. We have 40 people, it's just not going to work. You put me in charge, this is what we're doing.

Thanks for that clarification. It looked like a lot more than one month's supply of food to me but I didn't remember the exact dialog.

You bet, I just pop in and if I can find something like that to help a topic I'll find it and post it....just ask. :biggrin:

You gotta take into consideration - what does Hurley consider a meal too. He's not one to pick a pack of crackers and be satisfied for too long, his idea of a meal might be a little bit bigger than the average.
(NO offense made - I love Hurley)

not much i can add to everthing realy. just thought id say, its obvious that everythings happening for a reason, and will all eventualy be explained. obviously with the plane having the logo on, they were all meant to be there, for the hatch. on the video they also mentioned something about an "incident" . i just hope the writers arnt going to let anybody down with a conclusion to everything, as they have built everything up so much, and they are still going at it. how many more mysteries can they make!?

1 thing that annoys me though, they never talk to each other about what happens. jack gets p****d off with loch, for keeping secrets, but hes not exactly mr talkative with the other losties about the wierd things is he? he never mentionded his dead dad walking about. theres a lack of communication with those fools :P

just thought id add 1 thing, y dont they get to that bloody radio station the french chick told hurley about? hurley obviously doesnt like being around those numbers, ud have thought he wud try and do something about it. but he hasnt even told any 1 about it

obviously with the plane having the logo on, they were all meant to be there,If you're referring to the octagonal shape on the fuselage that's not a Dharma logo, it's just part of the aircraft's exterior. It was already on the plane when they bought it and began disassembling it for transport to Hawaii. This was before the pilot was even shot.

where did u hear that? nearly every 1 has said it is the logo, aswell as it being on the shark, and many other places

where did u hear that? nearly every 1 has said it is the logo, aswell as it being on the shark, and many other placesThere is an ogtagon logo on the shark, but it's not the one we've seen at station 3, i.e. the Swan.

Here (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=22460) and here (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=22034) are the threads where the marks on the plane are discussed. The first thread has the shots of the plane before the show was filmed on page two where you can see the same ogtagonal shape.

im not saying ure wrong mate, i was just asking. i dont know what to beleive anymore, my heads gona explode

No problem, I didn't take it as an accusation. I'm just sharing what I've found. This is a large site, and it it isn't on the the first page of one fo the forums it can quickly get lost.

I can't remember who, but someone asked one of the VIPs a long while back about the Dharma logo on the plane and was told that it was NOT on the plane. It was probably Javi, since he answers so many of people's questions. Anyone who has not read through those boards, really ought to check it out. It really helps clarify things that people discuss to death before just asking.

I think at this stage of the game the producers can certainly lie about things to keep a mystery as a mystery. I'm not saying Javi is lying though, but that is pretty darn close to the dharma logo. A little too close to be co-incidence. The art dept for the show did work on the wreckage to some degree.

It seems highly unlikely that the art department would work on it before it was cut apart and shipped by freighter to Hawaii. It also isn't an equilateral octagon, but oblong. It's "pretty darn close" in the same way that a Stop sign is -- i.e. it's octagonal.

To me, it looks like there's enough food down there for 1 person to live on for 4-6 months. If you rationed it and didn't pig out, that's what it looks like to me. The room wasn't that big, but it was filled to the brim with food. Also, I don't think that Desmond gets out much. Even though he knows the front door sticks. He could have found that out when Kelvin was there. Or he might have tried to open the door and then decided against going outside. Either way, the way he acts when Locke showed up, was rather spooked. He looked liked someone who hasn't seen anyone in a long time. And he's got those "crazy" eyes.