This is an offshoot of the 'snowman' thread over in the Adrift forum.

There are so many things we remember about this show and so many things we 'think' we remember that never happened at all.

Some swear they heard the 'snowman' joke from Hurley early on but sier had a DVD ripped off the first run of the show and there was no 'snowman' joke.

I swear I could remember that in the Pilot Hurley was walking around dazed and confused and said "The Plane crashed'. Sier once again said that didn't happen.

Sometimes we take these sort of weird mixed up confused false memories and build concepts and theories around them.

Lately people have been saying Hurley made fun of Driveshaft. In truth he didn't. He didn't know the words to their song but it was his friend who cracked the jokes. Hurley really didn't say anything one way or the other.

That one isn't all that serious but there is the one about Claire's 'evil' baby. The psychic NEVER said the baby would ever be evil. He said "Danger surrounds this baby' and it needed Claire's protection and that there would be 'no happiness for this baby' without her. I'm thinking of something similar to Locke and Sawyer's childhood. Someone interpreted that as 'evil' and all these theories cropped up about Claire's evil baby when in fact the psychic never said that at all.

The only reason I haven't done this more is because I have TiVO now but I think if I didn't I would still be 'misremembering' things right along with everyone else.

I don't know why we remember these things the way we do. Maybe the one thing we see sticks in our head and our mind fills in the blanks. Hurley's friend makes fun of Driveshaft..Hurley is with him therefor Hurley made fun of Driveshaft. Claire is surrounded by danger..she seems Locke in her dream. We don't know if Locke is good or evil..he has the black and white eyes..therefore is Claire doesn't raise her baby it must turn EVIL.

Has it happened to you? You could SWEAR something happened a certain way but on rewatch you find it didn't happen that way at all (or more embarrasing you start a thread or make a post about it only to be corrected by someone who has it taped :redface: ) Find yourself having to straighten out someone else who was taking a false idea and running with it?

Its kind of weird..isn't it?:undecide:

elfdream - I think this problem occurs in many situations. Its especially compounded because we are discussing so many different points and such minutae that things get confusing. It reminds me of the telephone game you play as a kid. You know, kid one whispers a sentence in the kid two's ear. By the time it gets to the last kid, the sentence is completely changed.

At least once a week!
lol


I think it is because we all think WAY too hard about this show. We spend hours thinking and scemeing about what could happen, what could have happened...etc. The fact that the show goes back and forth between present and flashback doesn't help either. I think the things we think happened and the ones that really do or don't are our ways of connecting the dots in our own little lost world.

elfdream - I think this problem occurs in many situations. Its especially compounded because we are discussing so many different points and such minutae that things get confusing. It reminds me of the telephone game you play as a kid. You know, kid one whispers a sentence in the kid two's ear. By the time it gets to the last kid, the sentence is completely changed.


True. We see the episode and post what we remember and then someone takes that memory and it seems to 'jive' with their memory and so on...

I've seen some pretty good theories fall by the wayside because someone didn't remember a conversation correctly.

THE SHOW IS MESSING WITH OUR MINDS!!!

Someone should start a "You know you've watched too much Lost when..." thread.

I was at work yesterday (I'm a network supervisor) and i heard someone in a cubicle saying, "Yes, I have the numbers" and i instantly thought, "4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42".

It seems its something i think about more than anything now a days...

About Hurley saying "the plane crashed" in the pilot episode, I saw someone mention that the line is in the original broadcast but was taken out of the DVD's. I don't know if I believe this, but it will give me an excuse to go back and watch the episode.

Here's another one (that even I was guilty of at first): Remember the first scene in the hatch where Desmond wa making the shake? Everyone kept saying "Where does he get eggs???" But there were no actual eggs in the scene.

And I keep thinking I saw that damn Teddy Bear somewhere among the wreckage!!! Of course, my DVD search has led me nowhere!

My girlfriend thinks that somewhere in the 2nd season the song "wouldn't it be nice" by the beach boys was played.... Can someone confirm this? or is she just hung up on "make your own kind of music"?

For me (and a few others that I know, lol) the problem is that we read too much fanfic:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Then when someone asks a question about the show, we can't always remember whether it happened on screen or in a fic :biggrin:


Kitten.

I remember the discussions about 'the eggs' and people claiming to have seen the teddy bear before.

I don't remember any Beach Boys song! If it was there it was waay in the background somewhere.

That's funny about the fanfic! I knew that stuff was dangrous. ;)

Yes Elfdream! That happens all the time. It happened just yesterday in fact. :lol: Sometimes somone will merely suggest that something happened, and I believe it happened just the way they said until I rewatch. What's really interesting is that I can actually see it play out in the suggested alternative way in my mind's eye. I've done it many times myself, simply imagined that something happened when it didn't. I just try not to invest too much in an idea anymore until I have rewatched the scene or seen a quote from one of the transcripts. :biggrin:

I've found that is the absolute safest route. I'm also finding myself to be a bit of a pain in the keister because I'm finding myself correctly people all the time...

"No..he didn't say that..he said THIS and that changes your theory..."

Bumping this thread because this is happening again with 'the other 48 days' . People are remembering things that didn't happen and I wanted them to know..its happened to all of us at one time or another.

This isn 't from "The Other 48 Days," but I defintiely remember Claire saying that she didn't know what Aaron meant, but that it was her grandfather's name.

It never happened.

Sheesh.

I remember other people mention the grandfather thing.

That's weird.

REALLY??!! Maybe I'm not crazy, but I looked and looked in transcripts, and came up with a big plate of nothing.

You give me hope, elfdream!

All of the false memories of events and conversations almost make me go back and watch everything twice before I make a comment.

It would be easier if the writers would hide so many things in plain sight. Once we found out Locke could not walk, I went back and found the wheelchair in three or four different shots. Now I suspect everything is a "wheelchair" waiting to be exposed. :frown:

I have to watch again as well. I still remember in 'Homecoming' Claire saying agreeing with Charlie that Ethan probably wouldn't have talked or told them anything.

I have NO idea where that came from! All I can figure is that I must have dreamed it!

This is a crazy one I just heard on another board. You know Ciny..the flight atttendant? Short dark hair? Someone on another board remembered her as being a blonde with her hair up in a French twist...

That is probably the weirdest one so far. ;)

This isn 't from "The Other 48 Days," but I defintiely remember Claire saying that she didn't know what Aaron meant, but that it was her grandfather's name.

It never happened.

Sheesh.

that definitely happened. it was sun she was talking to, in the cave, and sun asked her what it meant. claire said she didn't know but it was her grandfather's name, and then started crying because she thought it made her a bad mother. sun looked at claire and told her it was a beautiful name

so unless you and i imagined that scene, it happened!

If it didn't, I'm severely creeped out.

This is a really good topic! I'm sure I've been guilty of this a few times! Memory is a tricky thing. The ones I seem to see alot of are fan speculation/theories that get stated as fact. "Jack's wife died and she was pregnant with his child" is a good example of this.

that definitely happened. it was sun she was talking to, in the cave, and sun asked her what it meant. claire said she didn't know but it was her grandfather's name, and then started crying because she thought it made her a bad mother. sun looked at claire and told her it was a beautiful name

so unless you and i imagined that scene, it happened!

If it didn't, I'm severely creeped out.

I just watched that again on the DVD. No mention of a grandfather in that scene.

Sun: Aaron is a beautiful name. What does it mean?

Claire:I don't know what Aaron means.

Sun: They will bring him back.



It starts getting a bit weird at times..doesn't it?

I also go a little nutty over so called 'facts'. For instance we don't know that there are separate groups of others. Someone started that idea and while its not bad as far as theories go..its NOT A FACT! But people are treating it like one and build other theories on it. They will all fall down if it turns out there is only one group of them...

OK..I'm all with the two sets of Others theory...I have one out there myself...but you are right, it is JUST a theory at this point and we don't know for sure.

But with this show, half the fun is coming up with theories!

...and yeah, obviously I too have perfect recall of all things imaginary...

Is it possible that they aired the grandfather thing, and then took it out for the DVD or other airings? I think it's interesting that we both remember that it was Claire's grandfather, not brother, not father, not uncle, but grandfather.

Wasn't there something about TPTB taking out a line of Danielle saying that her crew was studying time, because they thought it revealed too much? People swear that it happened. Of course, it could just be another example of TWTWRTDH!

BTW: SO relieved you remembered it too, Dardin!

lol..you're welcome. goes to show, the mind is a powerful thing

Wasn't there something about TPTB taking out a line of Danielle saying that her crew was studying time, because they thought it revealed too much? People swear that it happened. Of course, it could just be another example of TWTWRTDH!
This was revealed in an interview (I forget which "powerthatbe" revealed it!), and the line never made it to the actual broadcast of Solitary, back when it first aired. So you ain't missing anything on your DVD's.

I did this very thing on my first post. To make matters worse, I've been watching the show with my mistake since I first thought I saw it (had to do with Walk telling Locke not to open the hatch). I thought he said something about a thing being release so I've been carefully watching season two trying to see if I can figure out what that "thing" was.

Should have figured it out when I didn't see or hear anything about such a statement, but just figured no one thought it was a big deal. With the sheer amount of information being given to us throughout the season opening up more and more questions, I guess its not surprising we put extra facts in ourselves. What's life without a bit of embarrassment to share with one and all ;-)

Someone wrote somewhere that he/she was sure about seeing Libby ask Jack if he needed any help somewhere in the first season. I obsessed about this until I finally realized that there (of course) was no Libby in the first season.

I keep remembering to have seen people before...

www.losthatch.com
http://www.lost-theseries.com/transcripts.php?epid=31

Where I usually check the transcripts. 1st season on Lost-theseries are the best. Shadow Anthology.

I clearly remember a scene with Hurley on the beach, when Jack is trying to get him to help with Claire. His exact words were "Dude - plane crash." I think it was a deleted scene, however.

Yeah. Here's mine: I could've sworn in one of the first episodes of this season, when either Jack or Locke goes down into the hatch, someone (we don't know who at this point, but I'm guessing it's Desmond) types something to him over the computer asking who it is or something (just like "Walt" did in the most recent episode).

So when someone starts typing over the computer to Michael, it doesn't surprise me at all. Then I go on boards afterwards where people are discussing it thinking "What's the big deal? It already happened once", and when I say that, I'm assured that that never happened. It seems no one but me remembers that scene. I swear it happened!! :) I can see it in my mind's eye. Plah. I don't know. It's still driving me nuts. I still refuse to believe that it never happened.

THE SHOW IS MESSING WITH OUR MINDS!!!

Someone should start a "You know you've watched too much Lost when..." thread.

I was at work yesterday (I'm a network supervisor) and i heard someone in a cubicle saying, "Yes, I have the numbers" and i instantly thought, "4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42".

It seems its something i think about more than anything now a days...


I totally agree about the You Know you've watched too much . . . thread. Today at the gym, I went to put my stuff in locker # 41 and actually considered putting it in # 42 right below! Yikes.

Jenny:)

elfdream: The psychic didn't state the child would be evil, true. But he did say that "danger surrounds this baby" if Claire's nature, spirit, and goodness didn't influence him. I think that's a little stronger than just saying he'd be like Sawyer or Locke. I think that's why many have concluded he would be evil if raised by an Other.

Its a valid speculation. I honestly don't have a problem with people coming to conclusion because its just as valid as anything else out there.

My problem is when people say defintely and without hesitation things like

"Remember the psychic said THE BABY WOULD BE EVIL OR EVIL THINGS WOULD HAPPEN IF CLAIRE DIDN'T RAISE THE BABY?

(caps added for emphasis, not anger ;)

That is NOT what the psychic said at all. The point of the thread is people remembering things that didn't happen. That didn't happen.

For myself I'm going with what he said...the baby would have an unhappy life because that's what he actually said but I can understand if people want to take it a bit further than that.

"And I keep thinking I saw that damn Teddy Bear somewhere among the wreckage!!! Of course, my DVD search has led me nowhere! "

The Teddy Bear wasn't amongst the wreckage, it was in the childrens hands.

http://z.about.com/d/teentvmovies/1/0/6/X/48days4.jpg (http://teentvmovies.about.com/od/lostspoilers/ss/lost48daysphoto_5.htm)

Oh, the false memories of the show drive me nuts! I was the one jumping in the thread about Desmond's egg shake asking where the mystery eggs came from. :rolleyes: The problem is that people are so convinced they remember correctly that they come up with these convoluted theories based on false information (OMG! FRESH EGGS MEAN THAT SUPPLIES ARE COMING FROM OFF THE ISLAND!) and then won't shut up about them, even when you point out that their original information is wrong.

Then again, there was a chicken in The Other 48 Days, so maybe that's where the mystery eggs came from. :biggrin:

About Hurley saying "the plane crashed" in the pilot episode, I saw someone mention that the line is in the original broadcast but was taken out of the DVD's. I don't know if I believe this, but it will give me an excuse to go back and watch the episode.

Here's another one (that even I was guilty of at first): Remember the first scene in the hatch where Desmond wa making the shake? Everyone kept saying "Where does he get eggs???" But there were no actual eggs in the scene.
In "What Kate Did"
EKO: Hello. I have something I think you should see. If you don't mind, I will begin at the beginning. Long before Christ the king of Judah was a man named Josiah.


LOCKE: Boy when you say beginning, you mean beginning.

Locke's Response was not in the rebroadcast on ABC

We know the latest episode had deleted scenes because so many of us have TiVo etc.

However...that's probably the only one that we know with certainity where that happened.

The only reason we know that our memories from the first season are false is because someone had a ripped DVD copy of the first airing of shows and checked our 'memories' against it.

We know the latest episode had deleted scenes because so many of us have TiVo etc.

Great, now I'm going to have to TiVo first run and re-runs. As if my Lost folder on there isn't big enough.......

I distinctly remember Locke saying that he saw Ms. Scarlet with the candlestick in the hatch.

"And I keep thinking I saw that damn Teddy Bear somewhere among the wreckage!!! Of course, my DVD search has led me nowhere! "

The Teddy Bear wasn't amongst the wreckage, it was in the childrens hands.

http://z.about.com/d/teentvmovies/1/0/6/X/48days4.jpg (http://teentvmovies.about.com/od/lostspoilers/ss/lost48daysphoto_5.htm)


Your also thinking of when Ana was giving the little girl mouth to mouth the boy dropped the bear next to the little girl.

THE SHOW IS MESSING WITH OUR MINDS!!!

Someone should start a "You know you've watched too much Lost when..." thread.

I was at work yesterday (I'm a network supervisor) and i heard someone in a cubicle saying, "Yes, I have the numbers" and i instantly thought, "4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42".

It seems its something i think about more than anything now a days...

That's an awesome idea has anyone done it?

Yes..its called "You know you're obsessed with LOST when......

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=2322

"And I keep thinking I saw that damn Teddy Bear somewhere among the wreckage!!! Of course, my DVD search has led me nowhere! "

The Teddy Bear wasn't amongst the wreckage, it was in the childrens hands.

http://z.about.com/d/teentvmovies/1/0/6/X/48days4.jpg (http://teentvmovies.about.com/od/lostspoilers/ss/lost48daysphoto_5.htm)
In "The Moth" when Charlie goes to see Liam, there is a teddy bear sitting in Megan's sandbox, In "Abandoned" there is a teddy bear sitting on Shannon's couch when Boone and Shannon toast her dad with her tea cups.

Oh, the false memories of the show drive me nuts! I was the one jumping in the thread about Desmond's egg shake asking where the mystery eggs came from. :rolleyes: The problem is that people are so convinced they remember correctly that they come up with these convoluted theories based on false information (OMG! FRESH EGGS MEAN THAT SUPPLIES ARE COMING FROM OFF THE ISLAND!) and then won't shut up about them, even when you point out that their original information is wrong.

Then again, there was a chicken in The Other 48 Days, so maybe that's where the mystery eggs came from. :biggrin:There was a deleted scene that they showed on GMA, I think it was from Exodus, Danielle has a egg and she eats it raw.

In "What Kate Did"
EKO: Hello. I have something I think you should see. If you don't mind, I will begin at the beginning. Long before Christ the king of Judah was a man named Josiah.


LOCKE: Boy when you say beginning, you mean beginning.

Locke's Response was not in the rebroadcast on ABC
In "Everybody Hate Hugo" when Michael and Jin leave the pit and A-L leaves Sawyer there and she slams the top down and it goes black, the first time it aired Sawyer said "Bit*h" the second time they aired it he didn't.

Sawyer You want me, Hotlips, you're going to have to come down here and get me.......... bit*h.

I wonder if it will be on the iPod episodes.

There was a deleted scene that they showed on GMA, I think it was from Exodus, Danielle has a egg and she eats it raw.

And that has anything to do with Desmond...how? :confused: But that might indicate other chickens running around unless, of course, the egg came first.

lol, good one huitquinze. I don't remember that scene at all Sam G. Are you aren't having a false memory?

lol, good one huitquinze. I don't remember that scene at all Sam G. Are you aren't having a false memory?
I remember it...it really happened.:biggrin:

lol, good one huitquinze. I don't remember that scene at all Sam G. Are you aren't having a false memory?http://www.lost-theseries.com/transcripts.php?epid=32