He said monsoon season was approaching and the raft should have left yesterday;
time has elapsed now..... do you think there will be a monsoon? and how long
do monsoon's last? that's a lot of rain machine and wet actors, and camping
away from the shore, finding a place of shelter (the hatch)?? and food
(the pantry). The hatch isn't really big enough for the 43 plus the tailies
arrival. Maybe they'll skip the suggestion of a monsoon (?).

I've wondered about this myself, but then remembered that only a few days (less than a week) has passed on Craphole Island. There's still time...

I think it's been more than a week since Arntz said it, the raft had not been
launched yet, but still, you are correct, not that much time has elapsed
story wise.

That's a good observation. I guess we can expect the torrential rains to hit the Island any day now (which in TV viewer time means we can expect it any month now).

Maybe the writers are hoping that we forgot about that, LOL.

Seeing all the castaways sitting under shelter looking at a torrential downpour doesn't make for compelling viewing, lol.


Kitten.

I don't think that much time has past, but if a storm doesn't come in the next couple episodes, perhaps they aren't in the South Pacific after all. We just assume that they are...

Interesting thread. Perhaps the monsoon will come in the next couple of episodes. Then again, maybe not. TabbyRasa has started a thread: http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=24965 which talks about the meteoroligcal studies and experiments Dharma is doing and that perhaps a tornado brought down the plane. What if those same experiments can control whether a monsoon occurs or not?

ETA: moved comment to tornado thread linked by JohnnyREB

I have said for a long time that they are not in the South Pacific and have been slapped down over and over...even called names...time will tell if I am insane or...gee...where am I going with this...?

Maybe the writers are hoping that we forgot about that, LOL.

Seeing all the castaways sitting under shelter looking at a torrential downpour doesn't make for compelling viewing, lol.


Kitten.

Seeing them all sitting around pushing a button every 108 minutes isn't compelling television either, soooooo... :rolleyes:

What if those same experiments can control whether a monsoon occurs or not?

THAT would be awesome! (And how cool when the lostaways discover the weather machine?)

Let's have the monsoon hit right around the time the tailies show up so they can all be crammed in a shelter together with everybody suspicious of everyone else. Tempers flare. Punches are thrown. Not so idle threats are made.....

You're right! Unless Artz's memories of being a science teacher were implanted and he really didn't know when monsoon season was coming. But he did say it was to happen with in the next few days. Maybe the coming episodes will explain this.

Good point about them not being where they think they are. Arntz based his
opinion on where he thought they were; but it's a topsy turvy Island and
they might could be any where ~ or no where! ("guys, where are we").??

Actually, hasnt like only 1 or 2 days passed since Artz prediction, fateful death?

Think about it. He said this like the day before the raft sailed, the raft lasted only till night time before it was found by the others and destroyed. Thru the night and into the next day they drifted back to the island. Got captured by the tailies, beaten by Eko. Thrown in the pit, questioned, released and are making their way back to the Lostaways.

Now as someone who lives in Southern Florida. We have a raining and hurricane season. Matter of fact we're getting near the end of it.

When it hits, it hits bigtime. We're having one of the biggest hurricane seasons in recorded history. But we havent gotten as much rain as we got in the past.

Normally you can set you watch by the 3 pm rains here. And that hasn't been happening this year. Instead we're getting rains at night. And even that hasnt been predictable.

So give it time.

Oggie, you send me back to my growing up years (in Tampa) where it rained every afternoon between 3 and 4 and then the ground was dry by 5.....:)

I think it has been 2 or 3 days since Arzt made his prediction.
About day 43 the raft is launched (the same time as Kate, Jack, Hurley, Danielle and Arzt are hiking to the black rock).
That night (between day 43 and 44) Walt is kidnapped and the raft blown up. The hacks is blown up, and Kate and Locke captured by Desmund.
Day 44 Michael and Sawyer are washed up, captured by the tailies and put in the pit. The computer are hit, Sayid fixes it.
Day 45 Jin helps Ana fishing, Michael runs after Walt and they all start hiking to the caves. Hurley brings Rose to the hatch, Hurley gives a big party with all the food from the hatch.

Meaning there has been 2 or 3 days, depending on how one counts since the monsoon prediction. if it is coming it´s probably coming real soon.

EDT: Timeline according to http://www.cubit.net/lost/timeline.php?PHPSESSID=d7830dbd5892e0969609548207e c4b8f

http://snrs.unl.edu/amet351/ogren/monsoons.html

This is an interesting article about monsoons. Apparently it has more to do with the actuall shift in the winds and not the rain..at least that was how I read it.

So according to that..the monsoons could already be happening...the effects just haven't reached the island yet.

Perhaps Artz (Arzt?) was not telling the truth. He just wanted to get the raft out onto open water (away from the crowd) so The Others could grab the kid? Maybe he was one of The Others?

Perhaps Artz (Arzt?) was not telling the truth. He just wanted to get the raft out onto open water (away from the crowd) so The Others could grab the kid? Maybe he was one of The Others?

You never can tell with Lost, so this very well may be. Or, maybe, he's not an Other but is just pulling a "Danielle" - trying to offer up Walt to the Others to satisfy his own agenda whatever that may be. However, I personally don't think Arzt has anything to do with the Others, either as being one or as a collaborator:

Think back to the flashback where Hurley is trying to catch his flight - he gets to the security checkpoint at the airport and there's a quick shot of Arzt complaining to the person in front of him ("NOW you take out the laptop?"). If you assume that the Others arrived on the island at some time other than from Oceanic 815, this would seem to rule out Arzt as Other.

My own guess, regarding the absence of the monsoon, is that TPTB can only fit so much story into each episode. Right now there are other priorities. Given a little more time (and sweeps), we'll probably be seeing a dramatic monsoon episode.

Great first post, though, GSBrunell - welcome to the Fuselage!

If there is no monsoon, then that will be another theory of Arst's to blowup in his face. =^)

Oh to be mysterious, There is a storm brewing on the horizon, this is the quiet before the tempest overtakes you. Cheesy stuff like that. I am with the other, not sure they are in the SP at all, roaming around on the turtle's back I tell ya.
If Dharma's weather service is reliable, perhaps they could "hold back the rain"?

Let's have the monsoon hit right around the time the tailies show up so they can all be crammed in a shelter together with everybody suspicious of everyone else. Tempers flare. Punches are thrown. Not so idle threats are made.....

Hey, great plot idea! Nothing like putting a bunch of people who don't trust each other into a situation they can't escape from. :-) I'd watch it.
Wait...I watch it every week already. *grin*

oh, the monsoon's coming all right.
much sooner than you think.

Think back to the flashback where Hurley is trying to catch his flight - he gets to the security checkpoint at the airport and there's a quick shot of Arzt complaining to the person in front of him ("NOW you take out the laptop?"). If you assume that the Others arrived on the island at some time other than from Oceanic 815, this would seem to rule out Arzt as Other.

This brings up another Arzt mystery. Hurley runs past him and JUST makes it on the plane (almost missing it). How did Arzt get on it?

PS: Thanks for the welcome!

GSBrunell
webmaster@www.danielroebuck.com (Arzt himself!)
and self proclaimed President of the "Bring back Arzt" club

Did you notice the strange weather event on the boatbillies raft? how do you explain the snow/volcanic ash on Degroots vehicle and rain on the boarded Sawyer vessel? Bermuda triangle? weather experiment? unusual experiment protecting against hurricanes monsoons and tsunamis?

http://snrs.unl.edu/amet351/ogren/monsoons.html

This is an interesting article about monsoons. Apparently it has more to do with the actuall shift in the winds and not the rain..at least that was how I read it.

So according to that..the monsoons could already be happening...the effects just haven't reached the island yet.
I didn't read the article, but the statements in the post are entirely accurate. As most peope that have planned a vacation on any South Pacific island could tell you, the seasonal shift in winds generally equate to an island having a dry season and a wet season - not huge rain/windstorms like the Indian subcontinent. The actual effect on the weather and precipitation varies a lot depending on which side of the island you are on and the size of the island.

Arzt's wind forecast -- and that's what it was about, wind direction, not rains -- was based on The Losties' being where they think they are -- the Pacific Ocean. But, since I think they were brought there unconscious, they could be anywhere. (Theoretically anywhen too, but I'm guessing not much time lag. Claire's pregnancy seems to put an upper bound on the lapse of time.)

At one time I thought they were in the Bight off the W. coast of Africa near Cameroon. But that was based on preliminary info I've since discarded. http://users.bestweb.net/~robgood/teach/GetLost.html for that explanation. However, I now think the makers of the "magic show" did not slip up, and intended for their marks to hear the radio distress call and find the Beechcraft small plane. Too bad; I would've enjoyed the Illuminatus! allusion of having them near Fernando Poo. For more recent thinking about Lost (basically that it's an adaptation of Watchmen, see http://users.bestweb.net/~robgood/GetLost_2.html , though that doesn't include my discarding of the African location guess, which came only after I'd viewed some of the DVDs. The bottom line is, I don't know where they are, save that it's a tropical coastal location.

Robert

What a difference a discovery makes. There's a pun that'd been staring me in the face for months: Craphole Island -- Fernando Poo. So now I'm convinced my hunch from last spring was correct, and not that they're just near there, they're exactly there, in the southern part of the island now known as Bioko. Which means that as of the time of this posting in relation to the episodes aired (50 days on Craphole), they'll soon be entering the dry season, if we have the date of departure of flight 815 figured. (I'd like for it to have departed in mid October to synch with Watchmen, but it might not be just then.) http://www.bioko.org for details.

Robert